Hypothetically: why couldn't the "Great Houses" scattered around the area be 'granaries' for corn? Since they grew fields of corn plus other foods and there is a possible 'slave culture' could the corn and other foods not be some sort of 'homage' to the Superior Ones in the largest settlement (Chaco) whose surrounding fields were not good for growing food. The 'special' people who dwelled in the 'Great Houses' could be security guards protecting the 'homage' offered up to the Superior Ones. What you recognize as granaries could be granaries for the common population based on their size. This type of food set-up with Great Houses as granaries for the food for the Superior Ones and the acknowledged granaries for the common people also controled/guarded by the Superior Ones Security System would keep the food of the commoners under the control of the Superior Ones.
@jeanettewaverly259020 күн бұрын
Great presentation! Thank you so much. Good to see more work being done on the Magdalena RD of the Cibola NF.
@MrJameric25 күн бұрын
It's probably a regional trade center with an open air market /trade center. The "Nobels" probably lived there and enjoyed the best of what people brought to trade.
@calebwilliamsmusicianАй бұрын
This fits with the Diné narrative that the Anasazi and Ancestral Puebloans were two separate groups- the Anasazi were ruthless slave masters, and the Ancestral Puebloans their slaves.
@johannesnicolaasАй бұрын
I saw this week the National Geographic documentary about this enormous structure, totall amazing!! Thank you for sharing this lecture.
@Hot4wordsfanАй бұрын
fantastic lecture and teacher! I definitely want to get the book!
@joelgutierrez15232 ай бұрын
So Wijiji is just a Puebloan Amazon Warehouse.
@GreatWolf-df7bj2 ай бұрын
You give me a migraine.
@locopoko2 ай бұрын
Great!
@locopoko2 ай бұрын
Super informational! Knowledge of macaws and their handlers/owners has become a great pathway on which I’m connecting with and visioning these incredible ancestors and their interconnections.
@miguelpaul11642 ай бұрын
Navajo story of the gambler who lived at chaco and enslaved those who lost host games built chaco. Slavery caused the revolt against the gambler from the south and all the pottery was destroyed and places associated with chaco destroyed. Also, they were evil people who woeshipped the darkess and engaged in ritual sacrifices and cannibalism.
@AmerindFoundation2 ай бұрын
Interesting! we really need to do a follow-up talk from a native perspective/scholar!
@andrewselden22443 ай бұрын
This discussion omits consideration of a clan structure within the larger urban polity, which might help explain the multiple great house arrangement as well as a diffusion and specialization of skills and roles. The clan structure might have anticipated similar internal affiliations within Navajo/Dine society, or as evident today within North Pacific Coast tribes.
@mariawheatley70293 ай бұрын
Excellent talk, I am from England near Stonehenge and revisting Chaco in 2024 so this was very informative. Brilliant speaker
@jool59412 ай бұрын
When will you be there I’m planning on going too, maybe I buy you lunch.
@tramos19894 ай бұрын
I translated the drawings of the moche Moche ceramic: God of death; humans ask the universe for help. Native American symbol of help
@lordvonmanor69154 ай бұрын
Herr I am 3 years later but Meridian means South as in Australs (Southerners). There are Amerindians and Meridians but both are Indiens.👍
@daviddoores46004 ай бұрын
I live in New Braunfels. I married Grand Daughter of Egon Prusser. Lori Ann Myers. Early Commanche (Numunu} Germans. Lena "He-va" Myers formerly Fischer Born Nov 1879 in Indian Territory, United Statesmap ANCESTORS ancestors Daughter of Rudolph Fischer Gerrman and Tissy Chauer (Numunu) Commanche Sister of Sophia (Fischer) Fuller [half] and Helen Marie (Fischer) Parker [half] [spouse(s) unknown] [children unknown] Died 13 Jul 1972 at age 92 in Lawton, Comanche, Oklahoma, United Statesmap
@Oreo-xc9sd4 ай бұрын
vonda, Mayans did not know turquoises.
@Oreo-xc9sd4 ай бұрын
What the anazasi have to do with this Maya history?
@TimothyBitsilly-m2y4 ай бұрын
Mrs. Denetdale you have a PhD and you can not stay focus talking without saying "uummm". You need to listen to more false stories you have gathered and to draw yourself closer to our Earth mother. I listen to your presentations during which i alot of book research that is not indigenous. I will say more however i request tobacco for há néh.
@patrickbass35425 ай бұрын
Who were the "nobles"? Were they 'locals" or did they migrate in? If so, where did they originate?
@user-rw1ox1kl2p5 ай бұрын
This fellow takes a lot of liberty filling in the gaps of his own research. The Navajos know what happened.
@Philip-xk5ui5 ай бұрын
This guy is not up on the latest stuff. The Anasazi were a blood cult from Mexico. They were all killed in entirety by the Navaho and cliff dwellers when they joined forces to defeat the Anasazi.the Anasazi were practicing witches,were cannibals and enslaved the Pueblo people and ate them.
@AmericanMadeAdventures6 ай бұрын
Cannibals
@Tastaliciousful6 ай бұрын
“They were very cosmopolitan” is a fun way of saying they were slave traders lol
@franlinhart13646 ай бұрын
Thank you - another rigorous, well-researched, and wonderfully presented. Thank you, Amerind, for continuing to offer these types of program.
@adeshwodan46797 ай бұрын
Chaco is not in SE Arizona ❤😂❤
@Saturnium_7 ай бұрын
Came across this by chance today! It's so fascinating to see these huge complexes made so many centuries ago, and to imagine what it would have been like to see the people living there.
@nothingbutmilk65768 ай бұрын
A you tube site named Navajo Traditional Teaching has several videos on how the Dine view Chaco canyon and the Anasazi. They claim that the Anasazi "nobility" were actually slave traders and that the slaves eventually revolted and wiped out the nobility. Afterwards, some of the former slaves became clans of Dine. "Navajo" is actually a Spanish language corruption of the term (A nab a ho) that the Anasazi language used to describe the Dine.
@gregcleveland34988 ай бұрын
Very much appreciated. Thank you. Altepetl was new to me but seems to fit.
@ercost609 ай бұрын
Fantastic talk! I've read some books and seen some videos and visited Chaco twice. Steve's reasoning on houses & kivas seems sound and quite well thought out. Such a fascinating subject.
@scottlopez98229 ай бұрын
All you have to do is go out there and try to meditate ... you'll see what kind of energy you can connect with. Make your own decisions on what happened there. The energy will guide you.
@jamesn.economou992210 ай бұрын
So who was the royalty, at Chaco? Were they Aztec? That part, never came full circle here.
@zemog10256 ай бұрын
The Dineh/Navajo say the Chacoans were Toltecs and that the Ancestral Pueblo were there before both them and the Dineh.
@chrismanspeaker937211 ай бұрын
Was out there this past weekend. I had many questions. This answered many. It is a shame that a few folks, working from a strange stance has influenced the history or rather the interpretation of history based on an assumption with any claims to being remotely valid. I see that currently with the use of prescribed burns. It is unfortunate that the local people do not share their stories as it could change so much, honestly, so many opportunities to put story and legends to events that you could create many new archaeologists/historians/park people (PhDs) out of the local peoples AND keep that knowledge uniquely theirs at the same time.
@MandyLee-qc1cp11 ай бұрын
I'm here after watchin killers of the flower moon...what amazing history.
@katrussell6819 Жыл бұрын
I'd like more details about the stored materials and foods found in the little rooms. I'd like to know more about the turquoise jewels and feather pieces that were made. Fascinating information. Thanks.
@millicentpepion Жыл бұрын
PS I want to detract my statement about Navajo boarding schools. I was being rushed and I didn't include the history of atrocities directly inflicted by those schools on to my mom, her mom, and my grandmother Susan White. I had a certain idea in my head when I created that slide but everything went out the window when I presented and I'm sorry for the confusion. Thank you for understanding.
@MilliePepion Жыл бұрын
Link to presentation docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vQoz5W0xYGhU2yTg8HWyvXqtxEKFLjZvEeQZJqW-lXk/edit#slide=id.p
@klakkinkittykat Жыл бұрын
Its the Sun's house where he lived with his 6 wives...and then a Gambler came and just reporposed it to store his goods 😮
@frankieclayton9303 Жыл бұрын
So many people don't know because they don't seek after the knowledge wisdom truth
@frankieclayton9303 Жыл бұрын
Keep teaching the truth
@frankieclayton9303 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@dennissmith8699 Жыл бұрын
Chaco Canyon was the meeting place of the tribes of 5 directions. They arose from the wars with the reds as survivors. Here they shared the beautiful obsidian in great quantities here. Each house is built in the style of the traveler. The secret to understanding Chaco is to see the skill and pride they shared in the construction technics and their difference. Each shared their cultures and the mix created a very knowledgeable group.
@pauldaystar Жыл бұрын
Let us Know When you Ask Live with Hopi Farmers,you Will Learn Real History Not your Educated Speculation
@russelmurray9268 Жыл бұрын
Hopi elders add lots of myths n superstitious to the subject and little ŕeason to the subject
@pauldaystar22 күн бұрын
Hopi Myths to indoeuropeans who Believed Flat Earth, Are Still Ignorant
@pauldaystar Жыл бұрын
Ignoring Tribal Hopi Elders History, Seeing They Are The Oldest Continuous Living Villages in North America, is an Ethnocentric European Racist View
@Allen-yv3ue7 ай бұрын
Maybe your view is Racist -
@jopainting1668 Жыл бұрын
It just amazes me how arrogant white men have been for so long and how much the native people of all of the Americas have always been underestimated. I truly think it would blow most of our minds how much cultures fron South, Central and North America have established and done long before the Spanish and Europeans made it across the Atlantic.
@markgibsons_SWpottery Жыл бұрын
i can't believe I missed this for so long! Great presentation! I like how there was a small comparison to Chaco without trying to spend the whole time trying to compare them... there was no comparison... they were both great in their own way..
@superglidernoyb5815 Жыл бұрын
The title of this says 2023 Texas Canyon Mountain Bike RACE... but the video, pics and description seem to describe the FUN RIDE, not the RACE. I had watched a similar video before I signed up for the RACE last year. Having been to the Texas Canyon area several times, and looked at a satellite view of this area, this looked like it would a good place for a race. Unfortunately much of the trail was tufts of grass that had been recently mowed, and it wasn't any fun to ride over 50,000 of those. Then towards the end was a section that was a sand wash, and riders were literally having to carry their bikes for a few blocks. Apparently the FUN RIDE uses a different route. I've ridden hundreds of miles of mountain bike trails in Arizona, and once was enough for this one.
@AmerindFoundation Жыл бұрын
Thanks for catching this we will get it corrected.
@bethstamm Жыл бұрын
😡 P r o m o S M
@adammillwardart7831 Жыл бұрын
The area around Chaco canyon has SO many dams/tanks in the valleys. There are hundreds and hundreds of them, and most of them are at least 20-30m long structures. The population of the area had to be higher than modern archeologists are saying. Building one of those without earthmoving equipment must have taken a lot of people and a lot of work. Let alone hundreds.
@clairerobsin Жыл бұрын
at 0:45 ...I`m glad you ain`t wearin a mask and, if I was there, I wouldn`t social distance from you neither! :O)
@ensenadorjones4224 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I like the part where ethnologies and the original experts supposed some things about the pueblo people and Chaco that were inaccurate assumptions that were then accepted by academia as dogma. I see from many people that this area is center of trade and commerce for that region at that time.
@Neebrecker5 ай бұрын
Yeah, great video, though like many academics he oversells how revolutionary and "against dogma" his research is (not saying this need to prove the predecessors wrong and make a name is a bad thing for actual sophisticated academics like Lekson--it's only dangerous when practiced by the undisciplined armchair conspiracy folk trying to fool people into buying their junk stories). Lekson here cites early ethnologists/cultural anthropologists, but those people weren't very interested in the historical questions such as the Chaco Canyon phenomenon, but instead were interested in studying currently existing societies. In fact, their work drastically improved the practice and theories of cultural anthropology, a different field than the archaeology field that Leson works in. The only reason he can get away setting them up as part of the foil is that Chaco is unique in that the descendants literally live nearby, and so it's a very plausible methodology to use their current and recorded cultural/political practices (Lekson's "Pueblo space") as a source for understanding those they had in the unrecorded past. Historians use cross-time cultural comparisons to generate explanations all the time (see work on ancient Egypt for instance). But..as Leksen shows, this methodology has largely failed for explaining the Chaco phenomenon and needs to go on the back burner.