sylvan messenger!!!

If you play with fallen empires, you could add spore cloud. It's a little expensive, but it's a fog for 2 turns.

The day I got into MTG A Leviathan was one of two cards that I saw on the table in my math class during lunch. Nd it was over after that, I was hooked. Do you have a decklist of what You actually would stick with. Id love to try it🎉

12:00 so there's the condition in pre-modern (or OG magic I guess), where making your opponent skip their attack step is better than preventing combat damage: Erg Raiders 😂 Not that Turbo Fog is all that excited by 2 damage to face being added to... up to 4 of its cards.

I agree with the Millstones not being all that necessary. If they have a place somewhere, maybe a couple copies in the sideboard, for specific matchups. And, on the topic of matchups, the slots you'd free up by moving the Millstones to the sideboard could probably go to an Ivory Tower (for non-combat damage matchups), and a couple Disenchants (for the matchups that don't care about combat at all like The Deck or Stasis). That said, I really like your list, I think you've got a good build going on here, with a solid amount of fog-effects to consistently get the "lock" going, but not too much that they start eating up the slots for the power cards. All in all, good deck and good video.

I've always loved turbo fog, and wanted to build it in old school. Any thought to a 1-of Island Sanctuary over a Millstone? It still ensures our opponent mills before us, and has some utility as a fog, though I suppose many good threats have flying. I always thought Ivory Tower has a nice place in this deck to beat Lightning Bolts, too. In any case, thanks for the great content.

This is the old school content we need. Beautiful paper copy, then walking through how the deck works in Forge. Fantastic.

More than 99% of decks in Magic, including Old School, use damage as its main win condition. But what about the second most popular wincon - milling your opponent's deck? Here is my take on TurboFog, which, as the name presumes, uses Fog to stop the opponents. And it's not just the OG Green Fog, there's also Black and 2 White variations of that pacifist card! However, that's still not enough to guarantee that we can nullify each of our opponent's attacks. So that's where the Turbo part comes in, with Howling Mines, to ensure that we get a Fog every turn! Paired with Millstone, solid draw spells and some counter magic, this deck can does have chances of milling our opponent's deck pretty fast!

Super fun combo! A two card combo that wins seems super strong if you can find the right shell!

Looks Great. Thanks for the video!

Magma Mine for Rocket Launcher and you're in business. Will give this deck a whirl today. Didn't consider Trike at first, duh. Great tech!

What does Moxen means?

Man... That's amazing, i started 2 years ago collecting basic lands, i don't have many moneys but im loving collenting them

Interesting take on the enchantress build. Im also going green / black, but cheap CC agro. I never thought that neither wonderlust nor warp artifact would be any good. How do you like them?

mtg phil! i missed you :D

beautiful collection...

This was really good. Just what I've been curious about for years. I even tried to find it a few times and couldn't but now finally well done. I remember playing with 4 strip mines, 4 berserks, with kird apes giant growths unstable mutations and Black Vice and it was way too good. I thought Strip Mine was restricted sooner along with black vice and berserk but I guess it was just berserk getting restricted that made me take the deck apart.

25:50 the water wurm is so disgusting he was passed over in silence 🙏

Do you think this deck is still competitive today in premodern? Or you need to include survivals to make it competitive?

Which platform for play is it? Ty

31:10 I watched this far, so I must comment. I played from mirage block to invasion, so premodern is my nostalgia.

Did you ever authenticate the Chris rush signature?

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my only issue here is the player should be able to fill his hands very fast. in this case if there are any cards similar to deep analysis i think which can fill your hands

Very exciting deck ! Thanks for the idea

wow what an interview, i did not expecting this. Indeed those old card have an stories, insane hand art and playabilities. Play them as you like they are a part of us.

Jesus Christ, you have an AWESOME collection! Thanks for sharing the video. Mine is much more humble, but I also have some good cards; not on the level of the Alexandria Bookstore or Tabernacle, of course. Greetings from Spain...!!!!!

Late comment but Ive gotten into premodern thnx to you and brightdaysmtg. Also now might have a friend hooked on it too! Thanks for your vids on these formats

Don't eat too much of that sugar-free stuff, it will give you diarrhea. 💧👄💦

Thanks MtgPhil ! 👌💪

I played with so many of those in the 90s.

I love white wennie

Nice deck

sleight of mind = big brain

Thx again mtgphil for showing this pre modern decks, it really helps me learning and builiding some funny decks to play with my girlfriend 👍😁💪🇵🇹

Thx again mtgphil! 💪

Red Elemental Blast and Blue Elemental Blast are quite the staples in Old School Magic 93-94 - destroying a permanent at instant speed or countering a spell for only 1 mana is definitely a good deal! They are solid cards for sideboard and can even see some main deck play. However, there is no guarantee that your opponent will play Red (they will most likely play Blue, but perhaps only as a splash color), so what do we do? Paint! Use the Alpha rares that nobody wants to open in a pack - Chaoslace and Thoughtlace (as well as Dwarven Song and Sea King's Blessing) to paint the spells and permanents blue and red and then blast them! Another strategy here is to use Sleight of Mind to make our Beasts of Bogardan, Spinal Villain and even Elder Spawn more relevant!

The dark expansion: my personal favorite expansion....anyway cheers from Philippines...

After playing out 5 or 6 lands, would it be better to just hold the rest of them to help power your Psychatog? At one point I was seeing about 11 lands on the table and room for 6 of them in your hand; that would be like an extra 9 power and toughness plus the opponent might think they still need to overcome a full grip of counters and removal.

I have an android phone and I downloaded this as well as the pics. But I can't find the forge app or access the data due to android 14 restrictions. Do you know how I can add pics of cards ?

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Awesome video! But it’s painful to see your mismatched counterspells and foreign mana leaks!

Here is more Premodern content for those of you who are into this kind of thing! Sorry about my voice, I recorded it a couple of weeks ago, now things are finally better. :)

Great interview. Always a pleasure to play games with you Olga !! 😊

I definately are a Johnny 😅🔫 I’m so happy with a 3/3 record 💪 Close to playoff! Almost always loose after sideboard when my opponents has seen the interactions. 1/1s for three mana with a decent effect? Bring me on, Druids, Sorceresses, Enchantress, Assassins, Imps, Tims… ❤️‍🔥

Old cards cannot be sold. When I thought about selling some original OS cards to buy more playable OS lands, I felt them staring back at me through the album (hope I'm ok).

Hi Phil! I would like to see a deck with Electric Eel. I know it's strage but it's a card I really like. Thanks for all the videos you make about the old school format, I really love them

I just realized her shirt brings out her eyes. 👁‍🗨👁‍🗨

Every old school mtg card is a piece of art! Vintage is difficult to find because of prices and their use, but also pre modern art was always amazing to me, some new cards have nice art but old school is the best👌👍💪

So for rarity, several factors are in play that will make a card "rare". And I'm talking ABU mostly because as time goes on, people change in WOTC and they may change the design philosophy. 1) What is it? (Creature, Spell, Land, Artifact) 2) How often is it encountered? Power is not necessarily a consideration. Fireball can be very powerful but it is a common. For example, we all know the color pie and what each color does. If a card does something that is totally color pie, it is often a common. If the card does something in color pie but also in an allied color, it is uncommon. If the card does something of an opposite color, it is a rare. There is also a food chain philosophy for creatures. A commonly found creature that is designed for just within the color is a common. You can have a 1 mana Llanowar Elves that taps for G. But you can also have a Craw Wurm 6/4 for 6 mana. Both are normal green creatures despite one being much bigger than the other. But then Birds Of Paradise is also 1 mana that taps for one mana but it's rare because it also can tap for opposing colors of mana, not just same color green. Then you have Thicket Basilisk, smaller than Craw Wurm but is Uncommon because it has Deathtouch (It should be rare but at the time, they hadn't figured out what color DT belonged to...I think it's black but don't quote.), a special ability where Wurm is just a big dumb green creature. Then compare Cockatrice to Thicket Basilisk. Why is Cockatrice a rare? It's because it has Flying, normally a blue ability, along with Deathtouch. Thicket Basilisk is more useful but the Cockatrice is weirder. Force Of Nature having Trample is normal, being 8/8 makes it uncommon but dealing damage to it's owner (or breaking owner's permanents, sacrifice, etc.) is a black characteristic, like Lord Of The Pit, so it's rare. Another condition is also there for artifacts and lands. Both are similar as the weirder the card, the rarer it is. If the artifact grants pure color ability to any target like Helm Of Chatzuk, then it is rare. If it works within one color, it is uncommon, like Iron Star. Sol Ring and Basalt Monolith generate only colorless so they are uncommon. Black Lotus and Moxen generate colored mana AND cost 0 mana so they are rare. Mana Vault damages you like a black card so it is rare. Last thing to consider is some abilities are exclusive to a color while other abilities are usually in a color but can mildly be shared with allied colors. Flying is mainly a blue ability and any power and toughness. Blue's allies white and black can have flyers but they are like 1/1 (common like Mesa Pegasus), 2/2 (uncommon like Hypnotic Specter), etc. If any other non-allied color card has Flying, like Cockatrice and Shivan Dragon, they will for sure be at least uncommon and if it's a big body, then rare.