what is that sick beat in the backround bro? also nice list.
@FitGuyAZ5772 күн бұрын
Just coming back to gloat that you were absolutely wrong on Azorius control lol 😂
@optimustomtv2 күн бұрын
Maybe! We'll see how it does at the RCs coming up. Aggro being top of the table bodes well for UW Control - especially with Temporary Lockdown! Happy to be wrong because having good Aggro-Midrange-Control decks seems like a solid format to play in 🥳
@pvpmaddox7426 күн бұрын
What was Charles' list?
@optimustomtv5 күн бұрын
I have a screenshot of the deck, but will effort typing it out into a Decklist later!
@optimustomtv4 күн бұрын
So the picture he sent me was missing the last card, but I think it was a 3rd Worldsoul's Rage: www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6653662#paper
@optimustomtv4 күн бұрын
One more poke, just got an updated list: www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6651345#paper A few changes between the camera game and now
@lvl1bird7 күн бұрын
Thanks for fixing the audio!
@jayrod1158 күн бұрын
Sweet list! Hope to see a fun format for DC. No mention of Leyline of Resonance? Too "low hanging fruit" or are you medium on it?
@optimustomtv8 күн бұрын
I don't think Leyline is going to be that great of a card. I was going to put it in my Duds, but I honestly don't think it's going to see too much play. In Standard you have a 2.5-5.5% chance (or something like that) of getting the Leyline opener into a kill with Scamp, which I think is what everyone was focused on. It's slightly better in Pioneer with the addition of Titan's Strength into the math - but you're running 12 pump spells 4 Leyline and 12 Creatures (Scamp, Mouse, Sellsword) to ensure you can kill with the Leyline Combo so there isn't much room for your deck to do anything else. I also don't think running the card in the current Mono Red or Rakdos Prowess decks does much that running extra Pump spells wouldn't do more consistently. I don't think Prowess decks are being pushed down so hard that they need an opener similar to Devotion's Leyline start hands, and that a consistent T3/4 kill is better than an inconsistent T2/3 one. It might pop up in other Red based Aggro decks, like the old Cavalcade of Calamity style Aggro decks would run that Enchantment to damage amplify their cars effects (ping damage in that case) - but it's also limited to Instants/Sorceries so a Gruul or Boros deck using Auras wouldn't work with the Leyline either - so it's applications in the Format as a whole are really tied to the power of Monstrous Rage (and other spells, but Rage put those style decks into the top tiers because of Trample + Role). I think Auras get more of a boost from this set (like Shardmage's Protection on my Studs) so there's way more support trending that way which takes away from Leyline as well.
@jayrod1158 күн бұрын
@@optimustomtv appreciate the in-depth breakdown on this. It seemed like a slam-dunk for prowess but may hurt more than help. I think a video on that subject (with a clickbaity title about how much leyline sucks or something lol) would be much appreciated if you can find the time for it!
@optimustomtv8 күн бұрын
@@jayrod115 that's not a bad idea! I've run the numbers for Sorin-Tell so this might be good too!
@JamesOliverLindsey8 күн бұрын
next time try Studs, Duds, and Spuds while you eat fries.
@lunarkaia39648 күн бұрын
I’m definitely biased, but I was hoping for some spirits love from the set and was severely disappointed
@optimustomtv8 күн бұрын
You'd think there'd be more Spirits in a Haunted House...
@austinturgoose9 күн бұрын
Nice list! Was wondering what you think about Kona, Rescue Beastie since you didn't mention that card. I think it could be a "could-of" for its own list with cards like Smuggler's Copter and Springleaf Drum, but we'll have to see if the combo is just too disruptable
@optimustomtv8 күн бұрын
Thank you! As far as Kona goes, I think the card has a little bit of potential with Crew, Saddle, and Drum as you mentioned! Especially in a deck like a Gruul Vehicles list where you can curve into Kona on T3 with an Elf and then slam an additional threat as well! The one downside is that I don't think Kona does anything that Creativity decks or Transmogrify ones don't already do slightly better. Those decks get to hide their threat in their library, and require one less step to enable their payoff turn. Transmog/Creativity needs: - 4 Mana - Token - Namesake spell Kona needs: - 4 Mana - Namesake spell - Way to tap it - Card you want in hand Kona's game plan is much more susceptible to disruption, being able to kill Kona or the Vehicle with Kona on the stack, or kill Kona post combat (I believe Survivor only works if it exists as it resolves). It's also weak to Thoughseize and discard effects, while Creativity lists keep their payoff protected in their deck until it gets pulled out. I don't think Kona is going to be slamming Atraxa or Valgavoth into play most of the time - I think of it more as a value card to slam Migloz, Skysovereign, maybe Titan of Industry, and in it's worst case - another land - in a Gruul deck staying on-color. it does have the upside of playing a normal, beatdown game that Creativity cannot though! I don't think those payoffs are as good as what Creativity can run, so I left it as just a normal card in the set without tons of expectations from me - but it'd be neat to see it!
@nicksorensen61839 күн бұрын
whats the list for the naya tokens deck?
@optimustomtv8 күн бұрын
Going to ask Duncan next time I see him about it - he has two different lists but I only have the combo oriented one!
@WorldofSoupS9 күн бұрын
:( no lotus field or modern mill upgrades
@optimustomtv9 күн бұрын
Nothing that I could see :( New Mill Crab!! But it needs Enchantments sadly
@Kratosauron09 күн бұрын
You think Ghost Vacuum might see some play over / with Unlicensed Hearse? Comes down earlier and making flying bodies with abilities is nice, but only hits one card in the graveyard per turn instead of two 😅
@optimustomtv9 күн бұрын
I think it's fiiiiine but I still would rather run Soul Guide Lantern for the draw a card upside or the ability to nuke an entire Graveyard IMO. I think Ghost Vacuum might be a niche card in a Roots type list where you need a card for it's effect more than you need it for the P/T. It can be beneficial if you use it yourself versus an opposing Hearse for example, while still being hate vs other GY decks. Overall I think Hearse is still better, so Vacuum just gets to be an average card from the set in my mind.
@ZAKagan9 күн бұрын
Always watching cares about nontoken creatures right? That’s a nonbo with caretakers talent
@optimustomtv9 күн бұрын
Ahhh you're right I wasn't watching I guess 😅 Teysa Karlov would be a card for that deck, and Always Watching would be a way for *non-token Creature decks (like Humans) to benefit! Will have to add a notation when I get home, ty!
@ZAKagan9 күн бұрын
I agree about Hedge Shredder in Greasefang. However I think shredder could be a thing in Analyst landfalls decks, though it requires experimentation
@optimustomtv9 күн бұрын
I didn't even think about those decks, that might be solid. Analyst trigger works with Shredder on the field, Lotus Cobra crewing it could work, but would need to see what you would remove from those decks. Being 4 mana isn't that big of an issue with Cobra out, but could be a liability if you have to keep a non-Cobra start.
@etbd30299 күн бұрын
NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER WHAT
@harrywhitfield83959 күн бұрын
NEVER SURRENDER! SIR!
@victorcorrea687910 күн бұрын
Soooo…. Anyone wanna explain to me how it comes in with 8 counters on it . Or is there something off camera that I’m not seeing
@optimustomtv10 күн бұрын
Innkeeper's Talent on Level 3! It reads: "3G: Level 3 If you would put one or more counters on a permanent or player, put twice that many of each of those kinds of counters on that permanent or player instead." Loyalty for Planeswalkers are Counters, so Sorin's starting Loyalty of 4 gets doubled to 8, allowing Sorin to instantly -7! This is also how Vraska, Betrayal 's Sting can instantly kill someone with the same effect. It will double the Poison Counters placed on someone, meaning a Player with 0 poison now gets 18 (and you lose at 10)! I believe we explain it in the full game VoD, attached to the short!
@CodiTC10 күн бұрын
Phoenix player making way too many poor plays
@optimustomtv10 күн бұрын
David definitely seemed less comfortable on the deck than Wesley was on Niv
@HaruSOSBrigade11 күн бұрын
I guess this is pioneer because Sorin and innkeeper's talent were both never in standard at the same time.
@optimustomtv11 күн бұрын
Yup! This was exactly one week ago in Pioneer! The whole match is in the related video!
@dorping_Wolf11 күн бұрын
who could have guessed, that a "pseudo doubling season" could lead to some explosive turns...
@optimustomtv11 күн бұрын
Couldn't have been WotC 🤔
@xaropevic791812 күн бұрын
That second game was so crazy lol I was confused on why charles discarded zacama though
@atakusai12 күн бұрын
Charles here. I was trying to contain the board and was too focused on not getting blown out by the command, so I discarded the Zacama, which was a misplay on my part.
@LordFrognaros12 күн бұрын
$.22 card best card in pioneer confirmed
@lvl1bird12 күн бұрын
Mismatched art = chaotic energy +1
@lvl1bird12 күн бұрын
First
@naterastrick12 күн бұрын
Looking back on this it seems they actually made a decent choice for now phoenix is not all powerful and new archetypes have established and aggro is playable again. Your thoughts?
@optimustomtv12 күн бұрын
I think the changes were fine, and I didn't think Phoenix NEEDED a hit. I think the biggest thing is that Devotion isn't being played as much as I thought it would be, and that the Ygra Combo gave Sac a better angle against it's bad matchups as it can win "out of nowhere." I do think Phoenix numbers will still be high at the RC(s), and Aggro will have to contend with Pyroclasm by then. For now, I think everything is pretty solid though!
@naterastrick12 күн бұрын
Could you do a mono white humans and or rakdos prowess deck tech like this this was really helpful thanks!
@optimustomtv12 күн бұрын
I'm working on putting a Prowess on together! Actually, I'm making the deck in Paper to play myself 😂 Want to try and get it out before the RC happens in the US, but I'm also thinking of doing a quicker hit on "decks to expect at the RC" for that weekend. Hopefully I have time to do both but we'll see!
@naterastrick12 күн бұрын
@@optimustomtv Awesome that would be really helpful great content btw really enjoying it.
@fortunenate0112 күн бұрын
Hey Tom! Just want to say I love the content! I play both league and magic myself so seeing someone come from the league community is awesome haha
@optimustomtv12 күн бұрын
Oh hell yeah! Thanks for tuning in, always glad to see another League player! 🫡 Have you seen Pastrytime's magic stuff too? He's killing the historic content part @HungryOnPlane
@kristiandahl131013 күн бұрын
Wasnt expecting a sorrin in the innkeeper combo deck
@optimustomtv13 күн бұрын
No one was!
@hermesthenerd13 күн бұрын
sorin is the main draw to try it in pioneer. it's so good!
@WorldofSoupS13 күн бұрын
really good vertical layout, keep it up
@optimustomtv13 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@bariltrailette13 күн бұрын
1:35 is 4 damage for two not 1
@optimustomtv13 күн бұрын
Jaspera Sentinel did 1 damage and Boros Charm did 4. Eric was commenting on the trade of damage since he did not remove the Elf - not the mana value!
@lvl1bird14 күн бұрын
Wow game 3 was wild
@minecraft311414 күн бұрын
Are you going to do a video covering how duskmorn will impact pioneer
@optimustomtv14 күн бұрын
I might do one on cards I think will see play! But spoiler alert - I think it'll be a very short video 😅
@joshuabillie508315 күн бұрын
3:56 that parhelion should be in hand right?
@optimustomtv15 күн бұрын
If you mean the one David touches at 3:31, Ting Marches Greasefang before combat starts - David was skipping ahead but gets stopped so Greasefang never triggers. He could have chose to do it in response which would've stranded the Parhelion in his hand.
@joshuabillie508315 күн бұрын
@@optimustomtv ah thanks
@hermesthenerd16 күн бұрын
hey, frenchie here! for what its worth, g2 i had the extiction event in my openner so archfiend was an easy pick knowing most of the pressure was on odd while all of my threats are even 😇
@lvl1bird16 күн бұрын
Frenchie dual wielding rings of power
@Fractales1516 күн бұрын
Tom, I need the superfriends list. I'm begging you
@optimustomtv16 күн бұрын
Whoops! It didn't save in my description. Here ya go! Planes-Rock-ers Decklist: archidekt.com/decks/8864256/golgari_planeswalkers
@Shinobi_Vii17 күн бұрын
A lesson I learned from an Overwatch coaching session: Playing for hours (power gaming) can actually make you worse if you're not careful. We often believe that we'll naturally get better over time due to exposure, but mindless repetition of bad habits can make you worse at something. Conversely, playing for shorter periods with the deliberate intention of learning and improving can improve your game faster.
@optimustomtv17 күн бұрын
Small, targeted practice > long, unfocused grinds!
@hugo392517 күн бұрын
How many cards can psychic frog discard a turn for the counters ?
@optimustomtv17 күн бұрын
How many ya got in hand? That's how many!
@hugo392517 күн бұрын
@@optimustomtvthank you. Fairly new to the game and don’t have a play group so I’m trying to learn through KZbin.
@optimustomtv17 күн бұрын
Pumped to have another Player slinging spells! Welcome to the Gathering and I hope you're able to learn a bit while tuning in! Never hesitate to ask while you're here!
@PoYi-fi1zt17 күн бұрын
Funny that he chose not to lose 3 life…
@optimustomtv17 күн бұрын
Not funny ha ha, funny weeeeiiiirddd
@PoYi-fi1zt17 күн бұрын
Practicing with objective
@Grooveworthy18 күн бұрын
#1 piece of advice i have for newer players practicing (and your goal is just to git gud, not going pro): play with people who are a lot better than you, and ask them questions. Have those people play your own deck against you, too. They will be able to show you lines and interactions you may have never thought of, and you will improve very quickly.
@jayrod11518 күн бұрын
Love the breakdown. I'm hoping to break into the RC day 2/PT club and your videos have been an excellent resource!
@optimustomtv18 күн бұрын
Best of luck to you! Hopefully you can get there in DC!
@sirxander542018 күн бұрын
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand banned
@optimustomtv18 күн бұрын
RIP Dora 😭
@goshdarnitthatsalongname534920 күн бұрын
This is a great video, been trying to find a good deck tech for a while
@optimustomtv20 күн бұрын
Hell yeah! Ty!
@Kikxz21 күн бұрын
Holy shit Kyle Mendoza was my neighbor when he lived in Manila!
@SoFishtry21 күн бұрын
Man, I've been watching your deck techs and other videos for a while but typically pay no attention to the intro. Just now realized you're a shoutcaster I watched WAAAAAY back in the early days of league with that intro. Glad you're doing you're thing!
@optimustomtv21 күн бұрын
Ahaha that's me! Thanks for noticing! Still going one way or another
@kmp10122 күн бұрын
Pioneer is very play/draw dependent
@optimustomtv21 күн бұрын
I don't think I agree with that, especially after the recent bans.