Honestly BTS and Ateez are the only Kpop groups who’s concerts I’m not ashamed of attending. At other Kpop concerts, I almost want to hide, because I feel I’d look like a coon for even looking in their direction. Even after they apologize and stop. The racism and ignorance towards Black people over there is crazy.
@samaralovegoodblack57753 жыл бұрын
I'm not black, but when I discovered those things my heart was broken anyway. I know they're human as me, but what if people ask you "why do still like them?" I couldn't handle it...
@jannahkurd24433 жыл бұрын
Can I ask politely why is it wrong to have braids like just why? Is that gonna heat your feeling and why I am not black but when I was like 10 yo my mom, a friend braided my hair and she is black and myy friend is black but I don't know why is that heart ur feeling can u explain to me guys?
@drugchildsamuel2 жыл бұрын
there literally shouldn’t be a problem with braids
@robertturnage86963 жыл бұрын
It's time for black people all over the world to tighten up their culture
@frejapoulsen78463 жыл бұрын
I’m so fucking mad that some people just randomly decided to be racist a long time ago. I mean obviously it’s horrifying, and ruins lives. Black people face so much shit all the time. But also WHY THE FUCK were/are white people so MEAN!??. Just LEAVE ITHER PEOPLE ALONE
@wndrhanni3 жыл бұрын
5:37 as a black kpop stan, i totally agree with this, i would rather them grow from their mistakes and not do it again.
@wndrhanni3 жыл бұрын
and I'm honestly surprised soyeon and gidle hasn't been dragged through the ground 😬✋
@dasspaseka54404 жыл бұрын
Okay but one thing I don't get is why people bashed Namjoon for having black hair like seriously I am black and I see nothing bad like many black people have white people hair but that is not racist seriously people need to chill 😒 Many black people have weave hairstyles but that is not racist seriously 😤
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
Straight hair is not tied to a culture.... Black hairstyles are so ofc it wouldnt be offensive for black people to wear “white” people hair. Also can you not invalidate other black people for being upset about idols doing Culture appropriation. It’s insensitive and tone deaf. Thanks.
@theumlungu4 жыл бұрын
Before Africa was colonized, or even put on the map, Africans used their hair to show status and which tribe they were from by adding beads, and other artistic accessories. When they were sold as slaves, they had their heads shaved and stripped them of their identities, homes & families. Then further down the line in history (after slavery ended and white people didn't own black people anymore), black people were forced to have "white hair" bc natural hair was seen as "untidy" and "ugly" and they wouldn't be given any opportunities if they didn't conform to white standards (which they struggled to have at all). I don't think the actual act of doing braids and such is the harmful part. It's the monopolisation of black hairstyles and not knowing the struggles black people had to go through to be able to let their hair out naturally and to express themselves with their hair. I mean, the first black hair care product was only around in 1905 and even then it wasn't sold on shelves at stores. Besides, most black hairstyles damage non-black hair so why are they trying something that isn't made for them? We have been fortunate enough to have hairstyles for our hair throughout history.
@scarletjuju22334 жыл бұрын
I don't get it why they don't inform themselves about other cultures. It's not hard to google it. It's honestly just lazy and the fans trying to make excuses like the idols didn't know it better etc. No they are not kids they can read! The problem is they don't care! That's all.
@khushipandit27194 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS ,,,,,,,,,DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE WRONG BEING DONE , BUT YEAH btsxlami.tumblr.com/post/161765337375/how-kim-namjoon-isnt-as-problematic-as-he-was
@orbitch6484 жыл бұрын
if there’s 23 members in nct, one of them has got to do something like this
@Taytaybugz4 жыл бұрын
$66? Oh hell no.
@siyanneabraham4 жыл бұрын
I was just getting into some Kpop groups and then this video and another similar popped up and *sigh* black people can’t get a break
@aboutshenother4 жыл бұрын
chenle did apologise but it got taken down multiple times ://
@ultymateslayong67584 жыл бұрын
May I know on which platform did he apologize?
@aboutshenother4 жыл бұрын
@@ultymateslayong6758 weibo
@ultymateslayong67584 жыл бұрын
@@aboutshenother thnx
@Erikafritz064 жыл бұрын
That’s a big reason I hate sm they don’t let their idols apologize, chenle tried to apologize more than once but sm kept deleting his apology, taeyong apologized on live once and before uploading the replay they cut it out, and there have been many other sm artists that have had their apology deleted. The best they can do is delete the post if it was on their acc (like tiktok, insta, etc.) or wait till it blows over if it was in a comeback Though some of them don’t seem to learn from their mistakes if it was something they personally did and continue to do, that isn’t something I can really “defend”
@ultymateslayong67584 жыл бұрын
I don't understand that what's so wrong about apologizing? Like what's the worst that could happen?
@Erikafritz064 жыл бұрын
@@ultymateslayong6758 me neither, I don’t get why sm won’t let their idols apologize when it would save them a lot of trouble-
@ultymateslayong67584 жыл бұрын
@@Erikafritz06 exactly. At least it would clear things up and their intentions too. People wouldn't think so negatively about them the way they do because of these. They're not even allowed to speak up or show that they acknowledge it bruh 🙄 I got really pissed off when they cut out the part where Taeyong tried to acknowledge that he made a mistake. Like what the f*ck!!! But I didn't know that chenle did too, can you tell me where did he apologize?
@Erikafritz064 жыл бұрын
@@ultymateslayong6758 I heard about chenle apologizing but it getting deleted, I tried to find it but I couldn’t really but it kind of makes sense. Sm probably deleted it before anyone could really screen record it :/
@ultymateslayong67584 жыл бұрын
@@Erikafritz06 another person in the comments told me just now that it was on weibo. But SM deleted it 🙄
@sharece14904 жыл бұрын
did she lie tho, did she lie? You're 100% true it's sad how these fans will turn their back on their own community for some idol 🤦🏾♀️
@Lai.dentistry4 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm hopefully this video pushes out to a lot of ppl ✊
@kpoopyhead4 жыл бұрын
on behalf of korean kpop fans and koreans in general, i am so sorry. i have studied for quite a while now about other cultures and their histories, and i understand how certain aspects of culture are incredibly important to certain ethnicities, regions, religions, etc. that’s why i am so careful in what i do and say when i do certain things pertaining to a certain culture. for example, when i learned english, i made sure i understood its origins and how it was able to spread the way it did. i wanted to understand it before i learned it. even though i learned the united kingdom’s version of english, i still went as far as to learn the history of america since i wanted to understand certain american terms/words. that’s when i learned english slurs and i have never felt worse about learning the origins of the n word. i remember feeling so disgusted when i learned its meaning, yet a lot of koreans still don’t know what it means because they never teach us in school about this sort of thing. we never learned about american culture or events that can be considered “insignificant” to our country. that’s why koreans may never truly understand other cultures of people we never really understand unless it’s implemented into our education system. that’s also probably why korean fans can get so defensive over their favourite groups: they don’t understand what the certain cultural aspects mean to certain people so, when people get upset, they take it as hatred when in reality, people just want an apology so they can forgive the celebrity and help them learn and grow. we’re ignorant in a lot of things, and, in korea, it so happen to be the place where we lack knowledge in is other cultures. i know how bad it can hurt when someone takes your culture and uses it as their own without even knowing where it came from. you don’t understand how many times i’ve cried seeing others appropriate our culture. that’s why i feel for you and other black kpop fans. i know what it feels like to have your culture ripped away from you and being used as mockery, fashion, etc. it hurts, especially when you look up to some of these idols. for the emotional pain some of my fellow koreans have caused you and others, i am sorry. i really want my country to learn why we shouldn’t do certain things or wear something that doesn’t belong to us without understanding it first. it’s going to take a long time before korean understands these things, but we just have to work on it together at an international level. we need to see eye to eye and try to understand each other before making any progress. i want my country to see how by doing certain things relating to culture can severely affect others. i just wanted to let you know that i really do hope you know that you’re loved. i know it hurts so much when people just take your culture and mock it or use it as their own, but you and others have got to stay strong and teach people why doing these things is wrong. if you get hate comments in this video, ignore them. don’t even reply. let them sit there and be lost in time. to anyone else who reads this: i dont care if you’re black, white, hispanic, or whatever you may be, you’re beautiful and no one has the right to mock your culture and make you feel awful. i am so sorry that my country does the things it does; we’re ignorant when it comes to others’ culture. i’ve been going on for a while so i will stop here. have a wonderful new year :)
@notbadbutnotgood86274 жыл бұрын
Namjoon was young, young to barely know this staff, just like me, even if most of my family members and ppls around me are black, i used to be racist WITHOUT knowing.. I just loved how black ppl look how their hairstyle are pretty, i'm 18 y.o and i just knew that i was doing what racist ppl do...
@someonecool1104 жыл бұрын
@ARMYs ARE THE BEST FAN-family-DOM IN THE WORLD Agree and thank you for sharing, but some still think RM is racist for not saying SORRY like he did it in a different way. It's not the same but he did with his honestly even apologies it in his vlive. But still many still think about his past too much. Really making me felt bad for RM even more. He did surffer alot even share it in his songs but hopefully life goes on like BTS said ✊️😢💜💜💜💜💜💜💜. Stay safe and healthy. I Purple You😌💜
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
I can understand this is a very tough conversation but please be respectful in my comments. It’s ok to not have the same thoughts but if you want to converse in my comments please have respect for me and others. Thank you all for the support.
@isuckbludd4 жыл бұрын
the things that they do literally make me sick to my stomach
@babydiamond95474 жыл бұрын
So I have a question for you are you still a BLACKPINK fan and BTS fan or have you left the fandom
@jessicafoley14354 жыл бұрын
This deserves more attention
@luv57764 жыл бұрын
In the case of (G) I-DLE, a Korean fan (who is friends with Shuhua's sister, one of the group members); the family of the members found out about the incident, in fact they all did, and from that event all the members were better educated. Many people complained to them for not apologizing (and they are right), but the girl who spoke to Shuhua's sister said that they couldn't do anything; since CUBE ((G) I-DLE's company) prohibited them from saying anything about the matter and the company could even sue them if they said something, or even give them a kind of "punishment". After that incident, the members and especially Soyeon; They looked very sad and sorry in the programs that appeared, their only way of indirectly apologizing was saying; "Thank you for supporting us, I will work hard to be a better person", as they could not apologize because of their company. I'm not trying to excuse myself, but I just wanted you to know the truth about the other side of the coin. ♡♡♡
@tiramiisu04 жыл бұрын
girl you have no idea how quickly i hit the subscribe button, you did such an amazing job at explaining every 👏 topic 👏 you 👏 covered 👏. I’m not black, so it’s always refreshing to see the perspective of black creators and black k-pop fans who are rightfully able to speak up about the appropriation of their own culture. although i’ll never truly understand how you feel about these situations (especially since it’s not my culture being appropriated), i think it really helps me to develop a better understanding of this topic, and this understanding continues to grow every day. thank you, thank you, thank you 💜 (also, i couldn’t help but mention this, your hair is sooo beautiful 🥺)
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much🥺💜Your kind words made my day. Thank you for taking time out of your day to learn about others.
@tiramiisu04 жыл бұрын
@@monie9463 no problem! <3
@nhhhjtlotvl4 жыл бұрын
but sometimes idols don't decide what they wear ;( Most of the time in the MV It is because of the stylists, I am not defending them, they should educate themselves
@agustv49684 жыл бұрын
The “but namjoon” excuse is so annoying.
@uuunnn80874 жыл бұрын
Well said!! I knew most of these already but some of them like the artist getting paid a measly 60 was shocking. However with the locs situation I don’t think they have the power to choose whether or not they have to wear it, as their stylists make most of those choices. But yes if they could recognize the meaning and cultural appropriation that would speak volumes. Maybe the stylists should be held accountable as well or whoever makes that decision. SM needs to wake up fr. Same with Blackpink and any other time an idol wore locs. (For the most part) I don’t know if they have much of a choice as it’s more of the company’s power. Some investigations need to be made lolol.
@michellethomas514944 жыл бұрын
Kpop is literally profiting off of black culture and alot of the fandoms and companies don't care...
@icysnow54104 жыл бұрын
(This is long) Honestly I feel like it’s SM entertainment that’s not letting their artists apologize bc when it comes to things like irenes scandal or jaehyuns COVID scandal they release a statement soo quick bc Korean fans are mad. When it comes to their artists getting into trouble with some sort of cultural appropriation and international fans are mad they become quiet asf. I also feel like some fans take it too far bc when the apologizenct hashtag on Twitter became a thing and ppl were speaking out on there, Mark(nct) had this one Vlive and people were giving him death threats(he was reading comments and ppl were also saying apologizenct also so it’s obvious that he saw it). Like I get you want them to be aware but to push them to die that’s another level. I’m just waiting for when these artists leave Sm entertainment and they spill the tea bc ik SM is holding them back.
@Angelina-pr5hl4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a black person but I just want to say: If you're black and you're not offended by any of this that's your personal opinion but stop telling other black people to not feel offended. Like... why do you sh*t on your own community I don't get it.
@marionicolasmartin4 жыл бұрын
i understand where you’re coming from but in like lisa’s or hongjoong’s case i don’t think it’s them. they most likely didn’t choose to wear them, it’s probably someone in the styling team. i don’t see it as their fault for now as we don’t know who chose their hairstyle and as most companies don’t let idols dress themselves for the most part i think it’s most likely the stylist.
@aathira7414 жыл бұрын
But I love how KQ has apologized really well for the CA and removed the CA part in MV.
@asmaislam74404 жыл бұрын
But your. not black your have tan skin tone
@PalianaV4 жыл бұрын
Just curious, how does that make sense? She would have to be literally the color black to voice her opinion?
@asmaislam74404 жыл бұрын
@@PalianaV didn't mean it negatively ☺️
@PalianaV4 жыл бұрын
@@asmaislam7440 sure, but im still unsure of what you meant with your comment...
@Fatima-zz7qc3 жыл бұрын
w.....hat
@nohomo-pp5yd4 жыл бұрын
If someone can translate these types of videos into Korean, that would be great!
@lovelyyolie27934 жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾We as black people are the blueprint of many things in different culture. 95% of Kpop is based on black music and culture but we're mocked and hated. The biggest problem is our culture and things that we cherish, they dont respect us but if a black artist rocked something of Korean culture and heritage it would be horrible (and wrong). For me, the labels behind them dont care how they disrespect black people and most of these "artist" have zero voice (which still has me confused on how so many follow their every word). Now some idols are trying to be better and appeal to all cultures respectfully and it shows, and then there is the ones who as you see will on peak in their own country.
@tabassumkhan86934 жыл бұрын
Everyone wants to be black until it actually comes to being black yk
@hilaholo68224 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry if I offend you or other black people. I was really confused because I uneducated with CA things... I know black face, mocking people accent and n-word was racist. But I'm a bit confused with CA, can you please explain it to me further? So, other races can't use black people hairstyle right? Please tell me if I'm wrong or not :( English is my 3rd language, so I'm so sorry if my english isn't that good :(
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to apologize but basically like I explained in the video black people were stripped of everything due to slavery including their real culture. We had to create a whole new culture and by wearing these hairstyles it is like stealing out culture and taking things from us again.
@hilaholo68224 жыл бұрын
@@monie9463 ahhhhh what if they wear it but credited it to black people? Like if someone using 'batik' who was originally from my country, we would be happy And thank you so much for replying to me in nice way, I'm so sorry if once again I was offend you :(
@fellowjoemalian69054 жыл бұрын
@@marieresendiz4739 braids from black people's culture & normal french braids kinda stuff is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy different. Absolutely different. Don't play dumb & acknowledge the truth.
@fellowjoemalian69054 жыл бұрын
@@hilaholo6822 that's not the point. The problem is they want to look black but not wanna BE black.
@hilaholo68224 жыл бұрын
@@fellowjoemalian6905 huh? What do you mean? We can't change our race tho?
@thiswillnotdo60274 жыл бұрын
love this video! awesome to see a black person talk about this and how its affected your community. Im also as an indian quite used to kpop idols using my culture, even as a blink, im always a bit disappointed whenever I remember how blackpink have used hindu and indian aspects in their clothing (jennie wore a bindi in the ddu ddu video) AND then turn around and mock bharatnayam which is a hindu traditional dance?? like this is the thing, they use the cultures of BIPOC for their own benefit but mock the BIPOC for doing it themselves. I fucking hate that with a passion.
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
Hello guys after doing more research about the Seventeen situation they did not say the n word with the er it just sounded like that but they were singing a monsta x song. Around the time I filmed this video I saw that clip down my timeline and everyone was in a uproar about the situation. I’m genuinely sorry about the mistake.
@sking61824 жыл бұрын
Why say anything close to it in the first place stop making excuses for them. If black people can white accountable for small racial slip ups why not asians their actually taught to dislike blacks. Ask any asian person I though black people were stronger than this mess here. Wow
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
@@sking6182 Hello, I wasn’t making excuses for anyone... I literally said that I did more research and found out they didn’t say it. Also it’s ‘black people’ not blacks thank you.
@ultymateslayong67584 жыл бұрын
@yu _ youtuber "adeola ash" made a video on that topic if you're interested.
@ultymateslayong67584 жыл бұрын
@yu _ oh ok then
@nydayo4 жыл бұрын
Hey this is a bit random but can I interview you for a teen mag catering to black teens? My @ is sincerelynyny if so
@victoriadavis85964 жыл бұрын
something I find most crazy😮 about this video that they literally planned how they were going to culturally appropriate a group of people🙄 like what they just said oh my God yeah yeah let's do this!!🙄🙄🙄
@Ash2theB4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find a video of Seventeen members allegedly saying the N-word. Apparently it missed heard lyrics from a Monsta X song so unless I hear the original or any receipts for that I'm going to have to disagree with that claim.
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for informing me it was a genuine mistake. I saw the video down my timeline around the time I filmed this video and it sound like they said it but after doing more research I found out that they didn’t. I will pin a comment to inform people that they didn’t. Once again I’m genuinely sorry.
@meena_deb37954 жыл бұрын
As stay i am just here to say,Chan apologized for what he has done.. he apologized for both the incidents.. As we see they have changed .. people make mistakes..they did too then.. they apologized n understood..unlike other ppl who kept repeated doing the same stuff ..i m not defending..i m try to express they aren't ignorant anymore.. many black stays had Vc with Chan they communicated and sorted out.. AS A STAY i can assure that they have learned from their mistakes. SKZ +STAYS = FAM . No matter what country you are in, no what matter what you to choose to be..you deserve to be happy for this Christmas. . - Bang chan Dec 2020 I wish you all happy new year.. I wish kpop idols change for better..music suppose heal ,not to hurt or offend.
@roguewizard62574 жыл бұрын
under rated video
@rayhana.b51404 жыл бұрын
thank you you did a great job (I'm a black kpop fan too) Actually is there a group who did not do any CA or racists things? I'm truly tired of this....
@aathira7414 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure... But I would say dreamcatcher
@rayhana.b51404 жыл бұрын
@@aathira741 I actually do stan them and seventeen too
@spheksophobiaurinal4 жыл бұрын
blackpink is very non problematic, the only thing i know is that Lisa used box braid in a mv
@spheksophobiaurinal4 жыл бұрын
gfriend too
@aathira7414 жыл бұрын
@@spheksophobiaurinal I'm extremely sorry to say this... But they are not unproblematic. They appropriated Indian culture a lot of times. And yes I can talk about this because I am Indian
@namjooningdc45304 жыл бұрын
all the facts here!!! seriously, you've done a really good job summing things up and explaining the deeper implications that cultural appropriation has on the way people grow/the fan base/people affected by a given idol's actions. hats off to you, i really hope this video goes viral because so many people need to hear what you've said :D
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this means so much to me seriously
@an.66654 жыл бұрын
Other point, there's many groups that wore braids but littles ones or in a very small quantity. What happens with them? Like in TikTok many people use this type of braids but I never see them with reclaims and then J-Hope in chicken noodle soup yes and idk
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
Jhope didn’t wear braids it was gel twist and most people didn’t find it offensive since it was just twist hair with gel and i dont think the size of the braids make a difference
@an.66654 жыл бұрын
@@monie9463 I'm from Argentina, but my father and his family is from Perú (Both countries are in Latinoamerica). There, my family taught me to use braids because of the Andino culture (You can search it) and all my life I used it. I don't know if this can offend black people because our braids are 2 larges and all this time I thought the size or quantity make a difference. The second point is about women who use it for their products (crafts) and sell it, in a historical way the colonizers braided the hair for many punishment so... What do you think about.
@an.66654 жыл бұрын
Hi!!! I'm a latina army. I don't support anyother group but I want to know what do you think about the groups that for example don't have control on their looks.
@sking61824 жыл бұрын
I really feel black people shouldn't support kpop it's not for us.
@urmom-rv8wm4 жыл бұрын
Kpop Is for all races Chile. ..but okay if you don't wanna support; just don't hate
@sking61824 жыл бұрын
@@urmom-rv8wm no one is hating its a copycat industry built off black culture no originality. If its for all race why categorize to to korean pop and not just pop. The west don't categorize their music as black music or white music asians live in a bubble.
@thiswillnotdo60274 жыл бұрын
@@sking6182 i think coz its sung in korean, thats why its categorised outside of western pop
@sking61824 жыл бұрын
@@thiswillnotdo6027 with no other races excepted freely instead of asians or mixed race whites
@sking61824 жыл бұрын
@@thiswillnotdo6027 it still shouldnt be that way is western pop called english pop?
@taejinsguccipant98654 жыл бұрын
Your feelings are valid. Thank you so much for speaking up bout this. This was a topic that needs to be talked bout by someone who has been directly affected by all this & is on the receiving end of the fandom's anger. As a poc I know what you feel & therefore I respect you more & more for this. Hope other black fans & poc fans can get the respect they rightfully deserve & have a safe place to give their opinion
@monie94634 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@yoongisballs2344 жыл бұрын
girl this vid needs to go viral because there r so many people that don’t understand thus
@suki-ny5xt4 жыл бұрын
i used to defend hwasa for wearing her “sauna look” but looking back at her past actions i totally regret it lol. u spoke nothing but facts boo, period.
@biclexual4 жыл бұрын
People said she wore a nigerian outfit to scare people eventhough it WAS a typical Korean fancy sauna look though.. Despite being given the n-word to sing back in 2015 by Melon and her reading the English lyrics in Hangul, doing blackface in 2017 and wearing a durag in 2019 advertised for all races by Rihanna, she hasn't had any "past actions". She has definitely done some problematic stuff, especially when the whole group did blackface, but the things I see made up about Hwasa is really insane. Deeefinitely call them out for what they did, but make sure your info is correct bc there's more lies than truth out there.
@yesno87854 жыл бұрын
Me too. I will defend her with the sauna look thing a bit, since it wasn't african clothing, but I used to also defend her for other things too. I won't anymore, as I now realized Korean idols aren't as ignorant and unaware of these things as they are made out to be.