We often build in the suburbs of Chicago. Give us a call at 260-440-3190 and we can make sure you're in our build territory and talk about what you're wanting to build!
@christinehbailey7 күн бұрын
Which one is best in hurricane prone areas?!
@MilmarBuildings4 күн бұрын
From what we've learned, the perma-columns with preformed concrete footings are an option for hurricane areas. But we don't currently build in any states that experience hurricanes, so it's not our area of expertise. We would definitely recommend talking to a post-frame company from a hurricane-prone area for their recommendations! The National Frame Building Association has a great resource for finding post frame builders in your area! www.nfba.org/aws/NFBA/pt/sp/directory
@ouzzy887 күн бұрын
Mine was 3 foot galvanized I beam, cutting 6 inches of the web out (leaves you 5.5 inches ID) weld that plate for the pole to set on, drill your holes. The I beams are the ones used in most states driven in the ground for guard rails. (6 foot is typically the length).
@MrBbs6710 күн бұрын
For the exterior part of your video curious what kind of cement board you use, is that rated to go below grade?
@chrisferguson179714 күн бұрын
I LOVE THE HARDWARE
@chrisferguson179714 күн бұрын
WHERE DID YOU GET ALL THE HARDWARE FROM?
@MilmarBuildings4 күн бұрын
We get a lot of our hardware through Star Home Center in Middlebury, IN.
@allancollins451618 күн бұрын
What I have seen in the past was , the concrete footings, pt post , and paced screenings, just as is done on a telephone pole , does this deserve consideration, as it wasn’t one of your options. I’m older and that’s the way we did it thirty ,fourty years ago.
@MilmarBuildings4 күн бұрын
While we don't typically recommend this method since it may not hold up in a lot of soil conditions/environments, that is another method that may work for some! We don't use it for our builds, simply because it doesn't typically last as long as the ways we've covered in this video. It was standard practice on larger telephone poles, when those were used for pole barns, but not as fitting for the 6x6 posts that we use now.
@christophercharles316923 күн бұрын
Planning on building a pole shed for my tractor and I would go with either of the 2 options that don't involve thee post being below grade. Thanks for the video.
@petebusch906928 күн бұрын
No more wood contacting the ground.
@MilmarBuildings26 күн бұрын
Definitely doesn't have to with the products available these days!
@petebusch906926 күн бұрын
@@MilmarBuildings Yep, and that's the point, we now have better methods and amazes me to still see people bury and rot wood.
@6by6by6Ай бұрын
Never ever invest hard earned money into a traditional pole barn, built in obsolescence beginning the moment the post hits the soil.. Post frame with post sitting above grade on concrete within a steel bracket is the minimum building practice anyone should ever employ or invest in..
@MilmarBuildings26 күн бұрын
It's always smart to protect your investments to last a lifetime and beyond!
@calypsonotch3953Ай бұрын
What about setting it on paver, then 30% dirt, 40% concrete, then finishing off with 30% dirt. This should allow any moisture to pass all the way though the concrete when/if the post shrinks
@MilmarBuildingsАй бұрын
That is possible, but also tough to balance and keep water drainage appropriate compared to Perma-Column or Post Protectors permanent solution.
@jerseyjim9092Ай бұрын
Interesting to see the different options. Pole barns are much less expensive and quicker to build than stick built but I would never trust wood in the ground for a permanent structure.
@MilmarBuildingsАй бұрын
Most of the buildings we build these days have some form of separation of wood contact to ground such as Perma-Column or Post Protectors. Much better option than the traditional treated post-in-ground method.
@JosephTroncaleАй бұрын
Thanks very much. Very helpful.
@h2s-i9oАй бұрын
Neither, lag, timberlok, Simpson etc
@MilmarBuildingsАй бұрын
We definitely use lags and structural screws for our roof framing members, headers....etc. Nails are reserved for smaller wall framing members. Thanks your your input!
@t82lLL2 ай бұрын
Looks great ,which floor plan is this?
@mikecooper89883 ай бұрын
Thank you
@StLbfdup4 ай бұрын
Doing a pole barn/ garage 32x40. Pouring concrete all the way past grade. Is 14” diameter hole 48” deep good for the footing
@ravenbarsrepairs55944 ай бұрын
The way I like to do it is casting a 1/2" J-bolt into the concrete, with an cross of 1/4"x10" steel wired to the base(usually some old spiral nails in that size), as further uplift protection. I then bolt a Simpson ABA bracket to the top, and nail the treated 4x4 post to that. I haven't been doing it long enough to know if the zinc electroplating on the Simpson brackets will have rust issues being in contact with the PT wood, but I've found no similar bracket sold in a hot dip finish.
@vinlukin4 ай бұрын
This isn’t far from me, do you build on ratwalls where the posts are bracketed to the concrete?
@MilmarBuildings4 ай бұрын
We have a number of options, either floating frost wall around perimeter or you can pour a traditional rodent wall footer and build with dry-set brackets off of that. Pros and cons to each method!
@vinlukin4 ай бұрын
@@MilmarBuildings thanks
@tclodfelter87894 ай бұрын
I've only used #3... I use 3" screws drilled in half way at various levels around the base of the 4x4. The screws seal in the cement for uplift protection. Glad I ran across your video....
@northjerseykevin39154 ай бұрын
I have a pole barn that was built in the late 60’s. They used telephone poles. The pole are rotting right at the surface. Any thoughts on the most cost effective way to fix this? I’d prefer to sister something in so I don’t have to disassemble the connection into the top plate. The building is roughly 60x20 and is a 5 car garage. I appreciate any suggestions you can pass along. Thank you
@MilmarBuildings4 ай бұрын
The old telephone poles is where "pole barns" got their name, but rotting is an issue with those. Fixing those is never easy, but you may be able to sister a support 3 ply laminated post in next to the rotting ones and attach with structural lags to support that all the way to the header. The digging won't be easy, but you can pour concrete around the base and tie the base together as well for a stronger connection. You could also pour new piers and use Perma-Column Dry-set brackets to place new posts.
@johnboy66356 ай бұрын
Are they hand tamping the posts set with dirt around them?
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
You can hand tamp those, grade with machines..etc, but yes, they need to be set prior to concrete so there are no air pockets from the settling.
@rafaelchan84976 ай бұрын
No 1 is highly recommended. For sure it will last for generations.
@jamesmatheson5115Ай бұрын
Especially if the stirrup has a 1" to 2" raise above floor level which stops moisture from rotting out the base of the pole., the stirrup footings I use dont have reo any more they have an extended shaft anywhere from 4" up to 18", 1 " to 2" pipe with a foot at the base and a 1/2" x 3" x 5" flat plate, you have to saw a groove at the base of the post and bolt the two together, this is all done to stop rot from water.
@wazhushkmuskrat99076 ай бұрын
I’d only consider the first option.
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
It's a solid option and very similar to option 2!
@drewnolan966 ай бұрын
Can you discuss the be I gets of a post frame house? I’m interested in learning more about abour this.
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
Best place to start that conversation is on our website at www.milmarbuildings.com
@drewnolan966 ай бұрын
@@MilmarBuildings sweet! Yes your website is awesome, been checking it out. I’ll reach out via the website. Thank you.
@siriosstar47896 ай бұрын
The screws d9work themselves loose in hot climates especially when using long sheets. however they are an easy fix . remove the screw squirt some wood glue into the hole and insert a matchstick or something similar . let dry and reinstall the screw
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
Being aware of thermal expansion and contraction is important as well as regularly inspecting your roof screws, just like you would regularly inspect a shingle roof to watch out for any possible issues. Thanks for the tips!
@Mcseverythingoutdoors6 ай бұрын
Put gutters on your shop and install posts with the cheapest method possible. Done
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
For most people, the cheapest method of protection for posts is the Post Protector sleeve or even just wood if they are in highly drained soil, but with gutters in our area (snow areas) we always recommend adding snow bars to keep sliding ice from tearing off the gutters as well. Thanks for the input!
@sethsaylor6 ай бұрын
PPE! WHERE ARE YOUR SAFETY GLASSES!
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
Fair point, but video was shot on the fly and I forgot the glasses. Next time! 👍
@Greghh19606 ай бұрын
Great video! Most of the rot on the poles we have seen is starting at ground level to about 18 inches down. What we have done is to coat the poles with roofing tar but we go one step further. We wrap the pole with Ice and Water Shield roofing protection starting at about 6 inches above the ground down the pole the width of the wrap. It basically is a barrier from the ground to the pole and is a really cheap and great option. We actually looked at a pole barn we built 20 years back that was damaged in a storm and the poles we did with this method were still in new condition so I would expect them to last my lifetime and my kids lifetime.
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
That would be a similar principle to the Post Protectors (option #4) but we have found the Post Protectors to be very quick and easy to install while maintaining a full separation of wood from ground contact. They also make a grade board protector to keep the grade board from contacting the dirt. Thanks for the info!
@davidangel442811 күн бұрын
Another thing to do is attach a couple 6”-8” pieces of scrap treated 2x6 to the bottom of the post to assist in holding against frost heave,Makes a big difference. Added insurance.
@davidangel442811 күн бұрын
Should clarify that they are nailed/screwed to the sides at the bottom
@themitchster3596 ай бұрын
We use 20d ring shank hand nail for most of our post frame fasteners. 60d for the purlins. 16d slicks for temp bracing and some window framing. Definitely wish we had the jumbo nailers for it.
@MilmarBuildings6 ай бұрын
The jumbo nailers are beasts! Very cool to see where building tools and tech is going!
@ginger_bredman3 ай бұрын
I agree with the Jumbo nailers. We just bought a Fasco 4” to 6-1/4”. As many nails as we run, it only makes sense to buy a couple of them and check production. Gonna miss driving them though 🤣
@butchgreene87697 ай бұрын
You’re nuts if you think that today’s treated lumber will last 50 years in the ground.
@MilmarBuildings7 ай бұрын
We have definitely heard that from people and it is the reason we always recommend separating wood from ground contact. Also, good idea to check your treating ratings for wood you are planning to make contact with the ground and make sure your drainage is properly set. Thanks for the input!
@intheshell35ify7 ай бұрын
You just expanded my mind.
@SMITTY197229 ай бұрын
Beautiful job guys just wished you lived in my area.
@turbodog999 ай бұрын
Packed dirt, no concrete, works fine and lasts for 40+ years. Even survived hurricane katrina
@MilmarBuildings9 ай бұрын
Correct, well drained dirt around the post is usually a better plan than concrete around post that can trap moisture and bacteria rot. You definitely want concrete underneath the posts though, to keep them from settling and throwing the building out of square. Thanks for the input!
@ferrisfilmsmedia46689 ай бұрын
Guidance 🎉finally
@ferrisfilmsmedia46689 ай бұрын
Love this
@timothyrabourn89069 ай бұрын
Wood? I use steel poles.
@MilmarBuildings9 ай бұрын
Steel is a great option, which is why it is combined into the Perma-Column steel and concrete bases shown on here. For a lot of builders, wood framing is not only more cost efficient and accessible, but also, easier to work with in finishing out buildings, hence the need for high quality post frame foundation options that keep wood from contacting the ground. Thanks for your input!
@JerryCalvert-x9u9 ай бұрын
Real simple. Its called liquid rubber. Apply several coats of that stuff and it will last forever and a day. Will never rot. Cheap, simple, easy and non toxic. Youre welcome.
@MilmarBuildings9 ай бұрын
Hey! We have definitely heard of this method, we prefer complete separation and the speed of install of Post Protectors or Perma-Column. Thanks for sharing that option!
@mariamatus48769 ай бұрын
Great idea. All buildings should include this feature.
@stevenhorvath99219 ай бұрын
You look like a Dutch..
@SUPERMANJW8410 ай бұрын
What were the dimensions of the building? If you don’t mind me asking
@MilmarBuildings10 ай бұрын
The home portion is 30x30 and the shop wing is 40x80x16. Hope that helps!
@Traveldestinations7710 ай бұрын
thats the kind of builder we need
@Traveldestinations7710 ай бұрын
I need one for my vehicles!
@ourv960310 ай бұрын
The only time pole barn construction makes sense is when the customer can harvest the trees off his own land at no cost to make the poles from. OTHERWISE, A full metal building is cheaper-stronger-faster to erect-easier to modify-longer lasting. !
@MilmarBuildings10 ай бұрын
Hey there! The posts themselves aren't the largest cost of the buildings we construct. Usually the metal siding and roof cost more. That being said, sometimes it does make more financial sense to go with metal frame buildings, mostly for larger than 80 foot spans or commercial buildings where higher ceiling are needed. Thanks for the input!
@DavidEBerry10 ай бұрын
Wish I could find engineered post-frame structures like this in Texas.
@Traveldestinations7710 ай бұрын
I love it
@carlcarlson18010 ай бұрын
If you lived in California your permits would be $80,000
@MilmarBuildings10 ай бұрын
Ouch! There are definitely different permit costs based on location, even in the midwest from county to county.
@kekoasiversons35010 ай бұрын
I have been wondering and that was useful thank you! If I ever build a fence I will use the ringed nails cause they hold better throughout time
@MilmarBuildings10 ай бұрын
Thank you for stopping by, glad it was helpful!
@MrLeroythecat10 ай бұрын
I'd want to do that so bad so many options but questions
@MilmarBuildings10 ай бұрын
We love to answer questions! Shoot us a message at www.milmarbuildings.com
@jarredcampoli771410 ай бұрын
Love this. Great to see how you are flexible to work with this client and adapt to their needs and figure out americas home crisis. Beautiful home. I can’t wait to own my own someday