Awesome review! But G-FORCE RS fits my family needs better. The integrated rack is a lifesaver for parents like me!
@michaelwintemute36702 ай бұрын
You need both bikes to do this comparison. You compare saddles, seating positions, etc. Without both bikes I have to “imagine” the differences. Also one is 500 watt and one is 750 watt motor. Was this considered in your decision?
@nelsonleemiller2 ай бұрын
@@michaelwintemute3670 Which part of the video are you referring to? Did you watch it?
@michaelwintemute36702 ай бұрын
@ yes I watched the video. Your video explains that you chose one bike over another. Particularly focusing on the seating position. But if I have to visualize the seating position rather than seeing the seating position of the second bike I’m not seeing the point of this being a video. Also you don’t address the apparent differences in the motor or battery power and if that comparison made a difference in your decision.
@nelsonleemiller2 ай бұрын
The premise of this video assumes you already are aware of the Aventon Level and are trying to decide which is best for you. That's why everyone else is finding it so incredibly helpful.
@stevenlove55812 ай бұрын
Came here for the flip hint. Thank you!
@nelsonleemiller2 ай бұрын
Nice, glad to help!
@SirSidi2 ай бұрын
does the frame type change the body position when you are riding? because it seems to that it is easier to keep a straight back position when riding the low step bike than it is with a high step? it also seems to me that in a low step, the handle bars are usually higher than in the other type? thing which allow sitting up straight. is this true? Thanks for the video.. very helpful
@nelsonleemiller2 ай бұрын
I believe the Aventon bikes are exactly the same. I am not sure about other brands, but these are the same except the bar.
@insidevoicesog3 ай бұрын
2 seconds in: ALRIGHT you've convinced me
@relaxingjoint93463 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Jackson-l3r3 ай бұрын
Throttle on the left is interesting. I have the EP-2 Pro.
@nelsonleemiller2 ай бұрын
It's not unusual, I believe all the ebikes I have ridden have it on the left.
@mydailywalkindeliverance4 ай бұрын
What a great video. Detailed explanation including the shim needed to adjust the seat post to spec. Well done. I have an AGS brand slightly different in design also sold by Aventon and it works exactly the same way. Thank you for making this video. Couldn't find another even from the manufacturer to help and in instructions that come with the post are useless unless you are into pain. Worked for me. Muchas gracias!
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
I'm really happy this was helpful! I'm just a regular user myself, and enjoy explaining things that I wish I could have known before, so this is the type of content that I like to create and it's very nice hear it was helpful!
@randyfox53174 ай бұрын
Thanks for the How-To. I just ordered this post earlier today and was wondering about installation. You broke it down perfectly for me. I bought the 30.9mm but that's because I ordered before I saw your video, otherwise I would have ordered the shim and the other size post. Looking forward to trying this out on our (my wife and I each have one) Pace 500.3. Excellent tutorial!
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
Awesome, I'm so glad this was helpful!
@randyfox53173 ай бұрын
@@nelsonleemiller Follow up: The installation went much faster and easier than I thought possible but more importantly...WOW that post makes a huge difference on the rear anatomy!!
@nelsonleemiller3 ай бұрын
That's so good to hear the installation went well! And yes absolutely, once you have this you can't go back!
@richardmarx76984 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Without it, I'd have been working on this for hours. With your video, installation was a snap. Thanks very much!
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
@@richardmarx7698 You're welcome, I'm so glad to hear it was helpful!
@jeromeGrzelak4 ай бұрын
i have a 500.0 now u cant give them away but i love my srep thru and i love it and my bike shop in a 10 mile range there is 30 of them
@lobilly4 ай бұрын
Is buying a demo model with a few hundred km on it but saving hundreds dollars a good idea?
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
That's probably something you need to decide for yourself. It could vary by person, and just depends. I did our purchase used bikes for my parents and there were over 200 miles on them, but it was $500 off each. So yeah it depends I guess on you.
@lobilly4 ай бұрын
@@nelsonleemiller Love at first ride. Test drove the 500.3 demo yesterday, in love with it right away.
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
Yes, I tested the Level and the Pace and it was abundantly clear on our choice of the Pace.
@lobilly4 ай бұрын
@@nelsonleemiller Bought the demo yesterday after a very thorough test drive. Got the rack & fender for Cad 100. Not free as generous as your shop. Thanks for helping my decision💯👍. Already have another ebike & 3 usual bike. Running out of room 😊
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
Awesome, enjoy your new ride! I'm glad my video was helpful!
@lobilly4 ай бұрын
Nelson Can you please share the link for the seat post and the shim?
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
I have a separate video about the seatpost, with all the links there. Can you see it on my profile?
@lobilly4 ай бұрын
@@nelsonleemiller Yes. Should have checked.
@angelosegall59384 ай бұрын
Great presentation! Your video clip convinced me to purchase an SR Suntour SP12 NCX Suspension Seatpost (27.2x350mm) for my Giant Roam E+ e-bike. I just returned from a ride with the new addition, and my “rear end” appreciated it and said thank you 😊!
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
Haha, tell your rear end it's welcome! 😃 I really do consider a suspension seatpost essential at this point.
@Itsmrkevin2u4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the height difference piece! Been trying to find that exact info.. I have a level 2 L and I’m on the shorter side so an extra 3 inches is perfect.
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
You're welcome, I'm glad you found that helpful!
@shuster19214 ай бұрын
That great video wasn't long enough😉😂🤣
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
@@shuster1921 haha thank you! 😃
@markmajewski57754 ай бұрын
Thanks! Very comprehensive
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
@@markmajewski5775 You're welcome, I'm so glad you liked it!
@jerrycook95254 ай бұрын
i would love that one , but i cant find one for a 30.4
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
Consider a different size and then just get an adapter, it works great for me.
@porterbrass4 ай бұрын
Bought the level.2 for my wife, raised and changed the handle bars to swept back style. Also switched out the seat to a Cloud 9. So now it’s sort of a pace/level bike with a slightly better derailleur and front suspension. With these mods, my wife LOVES her bike. Plus it’s pink!
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
Glad you found what works best for your wife! 👍
@manchetajr5 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the video. I had a question about loading the baby. Would I need a bike with a kick stand to load the baby onto the seat? I’m thinking of buying one of these for a canyon grail and was thinking if it would be hard balancing the baby and the bike at the same time
@nelsonleemiller4 ай бұрын
I don't use the kickstand when putting our chicken in this. The kickstand makes the bike lean over, and the weight of the child would literally make it fall. As you place your child in, it's pretty intuitive to keep the bike upright as you do it.
@jcoats55295 ай бұрын
Video is way too long.
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣 Seriously? It's also filled with information. You're welcome to not even watch it, your choice! Your comment is too long.
@shuster19214 ай бұрын
That happens to people with low or no concentration level, maybe knitting 4-U
@CyberdineT10004 ай бұрын
Video is great thanks for your effort👍
@davec11795 ай бұрын
Suntour give a preload measurement in the instructions if you read them
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
@@davec1179 yup 👍
@caroltaylor5765 ай бұрын
Will the step through also have 30.1? When I checked just now the 30.1 is cheaper
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
The size is the same for both the step thru and step over frames.
@vansmack49725 ай бұрын
Unfortunately this doesn’t fit with my default Aventon Soltera 2 seat. The bar on the seat is a hair too wide.
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
Interesting, surprised to hear a bike seat would have a non standard attachment.
@rayaldridge25064 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I was just about to order this seat post for my Soltera.2. I guess I'll keep looking.
@richardcastillo6035 ай бұрын
How much is the electric 3.0
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
That would vary, but I would recommend checking their website for the latest and current price.
@fabioscardino9925 ай бұрын
Question: behind where the two pieces of metal are fixed with screws. In my bike frame which is oval shaped, the two lower screws are not able to make the u shaped bridge, come close to the tube. Do you think is wrong?
@leefenendael64895 ай бұрын
So am I correct in thinking that this will add about 3 inches to the seat height, making it no suitable for a short person like me? Right now with the OEM seat, it's properly set at the lowest position...
@dnrgirl5 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct. I was worried about that too.
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
Yes at 9:30 I say it is exactly 3" extra.
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
Yes at 9:30 I say it is exactly 3" extra.
@rousefire5 ай бұрын
I just bought a Level 2 step over. I'm 67 and should have bought a step through. Its difficult for me to get on.
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
I definitely think step thru are becoming popular for a reason. I also wish I had it sometimes.
@mattskrepnek31365 ай бұрын
I am clipping my heels on the tire guard on mine but can't move it up on the frame any higher or any further back. Is that just a bike design feature I have to deal with?
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
Hmm I'm not sure. I don't recall that even happening to me.
@moonlight_466 ай бұрын
hello. how old is your baby in this video? my baby is ten months. and i don't know should i buy "thule mini" or "maxi". Is this "maxi frame" safe for a child under one year old? thank you 🌷
@thehappydiabetic53806 ай бұрын
When I was your age I could have lifted like you do. Now that I’m 70, a little weaker, and lots more arthritis, not an option for me anymore. ☹️
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
I totally understand, roof racks are not for everyone. This video is intended for someone looking for a rooftop solution.
@paulgreenwood695 ай бұрын
What was the weight of that bike? Mine is 19kg without the battery
@dragonfly6566 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing how to adjust the seat angle, which also affects comfort. Helpful video.
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
You're welcome, I'm glad it was helpful!
@rahorin6 ай бұрын
If you just using it to commute step through style...everytime. If you plan to take it off road on bike trails having the light weight + strength in one bike step over style is the way to go.
@markchilli82207 ай бұрын
Did the bike fit comfortably in the back of your Subaru xv or was it very tight? I have a Subaru xv but was not sure the bike would fit in?
@nelsonleemiller7 ай бұрын
@@markchilli8220 Oh it was tight, this car has such a small hatch area. It requires you to angle it a certain way and carefully position it.
@markchilli82206 ай бұрын
@@nelsonleemiller I would really be interested in see how the engine pro fits in and out of the Subaru
@barry79207 ай бұрын
Especially for older riders or those with some issues - with hands, wrists, neck or back, the comfort bike geometry can improve comfort while riding significantly. The Pace 500.3 has those high, swept-back handlebars to address the above, plus the step-though model has a generous space to swing your leg through while mounting for those with limited range of motion or balance problems. I also added a Specialized comfort bike saddle and a suspension seatpost. Love this bike.
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Yes the suspension seatpost is a must-have, highly recommend as well!
@nonenone15347 ай бұрын
My dealer doesn’t have a lot of Aventon in stock and try to upsell you
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
That's frustrating, sorry you had that experience. Might be worth telling them you are going to the next closest dealer.
@patriotone7557 ай бұрын
We just purchased (2) Pace 500.3 in the awesome Basalt color from our local dealer. Love the bikes. Yes, highly recommend buyi)g through a dealer.
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@Dave-my1we7 ай бұрын
Local bike shops ( “dealers”) are normally the best bet. They employ local folks, they assemble, they have parts and service and they are always (in my experience) terrific people. Count me in for “local’ whenever possible.
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
Yes thanks for sharing, it seems this is the general consensus!
@SatoshiNakamoto8887 ай бұрын
Is the seat wobbly? I was quite surprised with all the movement of the seat.
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
I don't think I would call it wobbly. It bounces up and down, but I think that's a feature rather than bug?
@campplace57 ай бұрын
My experience buying a Aventon Pace 500 3 was anything but smooth and calling Aventon customer service took 2 calls totaling 1 hr. 30 minutes! I paid over 19k out the door for the bike and am still waiting for it after 11 business days. Seems like a good bike IF I CAN GET IT!
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry you had a negative experience.
@MatthewSSchwartz7 ай бұрын
I’ve been agonizing over whether to get a step over or step through… I love the clay color of the level two, but everyone told me step through was much better. I never thought about the water bottle thing. I think I’m closer to making my decision!
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
Yes a lot of factors to consider!
@Morpheus1977 ай бұрын
This helped me out a lot. I am looking at the Pace 500, Level 2, and Velotric, and I see myself really enjoying the Pace.
@nelsonleemiller6 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that! I also recommend a suspension seatpost, I just posted a new video about it.
@jimf.6258 ай бұрын
Very informative. Do you know the exact inside width of the u-bolts? It says 3 inches on Amazon but my crossbars are 3 1/8 inches wide. Hoping they come a little wider than advertised so it will fit my cross bars.
@mbarb548 ай бұрын
Your comparison is very helpful as I noted in previous comment. After testing both a step over and a step through., I do like the step over model but ultimately decided to go with the step through. I'm not getting any younger so not having to swing my leg over the saddle is appealing. I'll have to get the extra bar to use with my hitch rack and while I don't really want the water bottle up by my handlebars, I'll get used to it. Thanks again for a good comparison.
@nelsonleemiller5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed the comparison! Hopefully the bike rack adapter bar is working okay for you. I hope the bike rack market catches up to step thru bikes soon.
@JamesFowler-tl1tf8 ай бұрын
You can order online and have them ship to your dealer who will put the bike together. Memorial Day sale for Pace 500.3 online saved $300 plus provided free extra battery (around $599). Fee to ship to dealer was around $150.
@nelsonleemiller8 ай бұрын
Interesting! With my dealer they honor all Acenton sales too minus another $100.
@mbarb548 ай бұрын
This was very helpful however I just learned that the step over is being discontinued and they are getting hard to find as inventory is low. Unfortunately, I'd prefer the step over. I also see they added a gray color to the step through line which to me is better than the 2 existing colors.
@nelsonleemiller8 ай бұрын
Oh interesting, I did not realize that but perhaps it makes sense for them to have less SKUs and maybe step thru is just much more popular.
@mbarb548 ай бұрын
Very helpfuul. There were definitely some things I wouldn't have thought about. Thanks!
@nelsonleemiller8 ай бұрын
Nice, I'm so glad it was helpful!
@mbarb548 ай бұрын
I've been considering the Pace 500.3 so your review was very helpful. I think front suspension is over rated. I've never had a bike with front suspension. Another benefit of the Pace is it is lighter in weight compared to the level. Now I'm off to my LBS for a test ride!
@nelsonleemiller8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed the review! Yes I do think the front suspension is overrated. We have not even thought about it being missing. But we do have good seatpost shocks.
@DM-fp8uw8 ай бұрын
How do you compare it to the Pace?
@nelsonleemiller8 ай бұрын
It's quite similar in a lot of ways. The two differences I can think of are the front shock which I do not think is needed (my wife and I were talking about this on a recent ride, we really don't think it is needed) and the other difference is 7 gears instead of 8.