We should try to track down the placoderm site near Jerome!
@elasmocast4 күн бұрын
Let’s do it!!!
@CodyosVladimiros4 күн бұрын
@@elasmocast I'll bring Pippin and some mead! I tried to track it down years ago, but failed miserably. I may have been traveling in the wrong direction. But i am so down to try again and we can get some footage!
@elasmocast4 күн бұрын
That would be awesome! I haven’t explored that area yet, I’m really curious as to what we can find!
@perla_isnotokay98656 күн бұрын
Hatchi!!!
@elasmocast6 күн бұрын
The star of the trip!
@laurenmarshall87156 күн бұрын
Hatchi! Great fossil hunting!
@elasmocast6 күн бұрын
Thank you! Hatchi was the real star of course
@squishy59146 күн бұрын
Dang who’s your editor they did a really good job
@elasmocast6 күн бұрын
Michelle did! She really did a fantastic job on it!
@squishy59146 күн бұрын
Boost
@lovemimixo6 күн бұрын
I always enjoy these fossil hunting expeditions you take me to! Obviously ranger Hatchi did too.💕
@elasmocast6 күн бұрын
I am glad you and Hatchi enjoyed the trip! You did an amazing job editing the video too:)
@MarDiego544610 күн бұрын
Excellent video! 🦈
@elasmocast9 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@sam186627 күн бұрын
Would this make their closest living relatives chimaeras?
@elasmocast27 күн бұрын
You are correct!
@sam186627 күн бұрын
@ Cool!
Ай бұрын
Wonderful info---almost all new to me! Very clear and interesting!
@elasmocastАй бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, I’m glad the video was informative for you!
Ай бұрын
Wonderful presentation--clear and relatable and especially informative to this paleo shark neophyte! Great job Ben!
@elasmocastАй бұрын
Thank you; I appreciate the kind words!
Ай бұрын
The sample you guys asked about is quartz (variety: chalcedony). You might try a shortwave UV light on it and it will likely fluoresce a lime green color. It was great working and talking with you today at the Pinal Geology and Mineral Museum. I subscribed! Love the snake too!
@elasmocastАй бұрын
Thank you for the ID help the recommendation, and the subscription. It was awesome meeting you today, as well!
@gabrielwillmslocateli1741Ай бұрын
the dinosaurs are replicas
@elasmocastАй бұрын
Yes there were a lot of casts on display at the show
@Garage23Ай бұрын
It would be helpful to add a photo of the creatures these teeth belong to.
@elasmocastАй бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion!
@Garage23Ай бұрын
Would love to see if y'all find anything at the creeks. Especially Fossil Creek in Camp Verde.
@elasmocastАй бұрын
I’ve been wanting to check out that place!
@benjaminstoviak8910Ай бұрын
Definitely think about doing another one of these for chondrichthyes! Maybe could combine both extant and extinct too.
@elasmocastАй бұрын
That’s a great idea. We have a couple other tier list episodes in the works as well!
@derekhurt9983Ай бұрын
Yes like Jared said make a tier list for ancient animals like the Cretaceous that would be awesome
@elasmocastАй бұрын
We’re currently planning one out with a pretty cool lineup of extinct animals!
@derekhurt9983Ай бұрын
@@elasmocast awesome can't wait
@TrevorRempert2 ай бұрын
Cretolamna
@elasmocast2 ай бұрын
Blasphemy
@yahwea2 ай бұрын
This episode is much better than the last, as no one is talking over the others & making weird jokes!
@elasmocast2 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed this episode!
@TrevorRempert2 ай бұрын
We should do a paper on Carcharocles taxonomy.
@elasmocast2 ай бұрын
I'd be down!
@bill59822 ай бұрын
To speak to partially serrated species. For a partially serrate blade of O.aksuaticus, do you then call O. obliquus as it is not fully serrate or O. auriculatus which is fully serrate? None of these are true species, just a method of separating them by characteristics. Megalodon could have cuspleted teeth as a juvenile and within its mouth have teeth with and without cusplets simultaneously. So found teeth of the same animal would be called 2 different species if not found as part of a dentition. It is more a method of labeling them and separating them by age and characteristics. This tooth is mid Miocene and has cusplets so it goes in this box labeled chubutensis. This tooth does not have cusplets and is also mid Miocene so it goes in this box labeled megalodon. It is important to note that species DO NOT HAVE sharp boundaries. An old species blends into a new species over a period of time (often short in geologic time but long in human time). In between times, the animal will have some old and some new characteristics simultaneously.
@elasmocast2 ай бұрын
You are right, these taxa (especially the "transitional" ones) aren't true species, especially when looking at chronospecies such as the Carcharocles lineage. I would classify the transitional Otodus-Carcharocles lineage teeth as belonging to Carcharocles, as once serrations begin to develop, the Carcharocles chronospecies is established; Otodus obliquus, while being ancestral to this lineage, is less clear whether it split into other "genera", as well (Parotodus, Megalolamna). You are right that evolution is not sharply drawn out; it only looks that way from a bird's eye view. Even intraspecific variation can make labeling fossils a challenge. It does seem often to be the case that evolutionary changes, in a deep time sense, happen relatively rapidly, followed by that trait undergoing relatively long periods of stasis, before significant morphological changes evolve again, as is stated by the concept of punctuated equilibria by Niles Eldredge and Steven Jay Gould.
@NicholasThomas-of6zf2 ай бұрын
Go uphill until you are out of the shell beds. Then you are above the old shoreline and a few hundred thousand years in time to land creatures and trilobite fossils.have fun always
@elasmocast2 ай бұрын
We appreciate the advice, thank you!
@NicholasThomas-of6zf2 ай бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me, I've spent most of my life on and around the Rim. Flagstaff side.theres a place north of Payson with Chrinoid stems and funnel shaped orange fossilized sponges.
@elasmocast2 ай бұрын
Any time! There's tons of cool fossils all over that area, and a lot still to be discovered and described!
@NicholasThomas-of6zf2 ай бұрын
So most of that area is early Devonian so no bony fish yet, cartilage and crocofish teeth . lol All that area Was a shallow sea fulla clams oysters, just what baby sharks need for developing their cartilaginous skeletons
@elasmocast2 ай бұрын
It’s funny you mention the Devonian, we actually have a video coming out soon where we were fossil hunting in the Devonian age Martin Limestone! The Devonian in Arizona is seldom researched, yet still has some awesome fossils in it!
@CodyosVladimiros3 ай бұрын
Aw man, would have loved to join in!
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
You should come on the next SPS trip!
@benjaminstoviak89103 ай бұрын
Here in TX, we have the Woodbine which is a similarish sandstone/marginal marine environment of Cenomanian age. I've come across a good handful of Anomotodon principalis out there. Your last tooth is hard to be definitive on, but I think A. principalis is a good choice if you see evidence for lateral shoulders instead of cusplets.
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion! When I looked closely at the specimen with a microscope, I found traces of a pair of lateral cusplets, which made me lean towards Scapanorhynchus, rather than Anomotodon. Another possibility I thought of was Eostriatolamia, though found Scapanorhynchus to be the closest match.
@greythemetalhead6663 ай бұрын
Question: I’m going to study geology in Arizona and I’m wondering if the SPS offers future career opportunities? I know they do volunteer work too which I’m also interested in but I’m wondering if they do careers? Also excellent finds today!!
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m not sure if there are any career opportunities within SPS itself, though it is beneficial in that you have the opportunity to build connections with people that may help with your future career. It is tied closely with the Arizona Museum of Natural History. I hope this helps!
@greythemetalhead6663 ай бұрын
@@elasmocast yes! This helped a ton, thank you so much! Keep up the good work, love your videos!
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
Glad to help, and I appreciate the kind words!
@EVOLUTIONINCARNATE3 ай бұрын
Engelman was a big help for me for my own dunkleosteus skeletal !
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
He’s great guy! It was a pleasure having him on the podcast.
@EVOLUTIONINCARNATE3 ай бұрын
@@elasmocast indeed I think I found my new favorite channel XD Extinct sharks are my specialty (to the point of my recons being on Wikipedia) so having this channel on my notifs from now on
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
I’m really glad to hear it! Sharks are the coolest. If you like long-form podcasts like this one I have some more coming out in the near future to look forward to. The next Elasmocast episode will have another prolific extinct shark researcher! Which Wikipedia articles are you on?
@EVOLUTIONINCARNATE3 ай бұрын
@@elasmocast is it tyler greenfield? XD
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
It is not! I should reach out to him for an episode though
@catalant41613 ай бұрын
Awesome podcast. Learned a lot. I'm a shark nerd but I dont know a lot about paleontology or placoderms so this was a treat
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Being a shark person myself, I found Russell’s information on placoderms super informative as well.
@battlechampion473 ай бұрын
I've had the oportunity to have a look at a somewhat big sample from morroco and even an associated dentition of Striatolamia and I have to lean in with the sand-tiger affinity. The ammount of variability in this genus is quite big and has major changes in ontogeny and locality.
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
Cunningham (2000) really displays the overwhelming similarities between Carcharias taurus and Striatolamia macrota teeth
@yahwea3 ай бұрын
Potentially something else
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
Given the multiple unknown variables, that does seem very possible
@Jason-o5s3 ай бұрын
Cheer~~~relating to or denoting the era between the Precambrian eon and the Mesozoic era.😊
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
The Paleozoic is my favorite era!
@wayneitano3 ай бұрын
That `holocephalan denticle' looks like one of the smaller morphotypes of Lagarodus specularis . See Lebedev 2008, Acta Geol. Polonica, vol. 58, 199-204, fig. 2.
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insight! I had it identified as a denticle based on the foramina present along the sides of the base, with no foramina present on its basal face. Looking at the figure, it does resemble Lagarodus, which can be found in the Naco Formation.
@benjaminstoviak89103 ай бұрын
Nice Petrodus! You even caught it on camera before catching it with your eyes. They're pretty rare here in Texas
@elasmocast3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was thrilled to find it
@paulstarmancurnow2584 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed the book John.
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
I did as well! It is a great read.
@howardkerr53514 ай бұрын
Great content, mind bending fossils
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
It’s miraculous how well the specimens preserved! I look forward to seeing what other articulated remains from this site get published on in the future.
@howardkerr53514 ай бұрын
I can't wait to get the book
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
It’s well worth the read!
@BettyH-p8u4 ай бұрын
A few years ago my family were camped out in the wood near FLAGSTAFF .ARIZONA ! My daughter were walking /exploring the area near our camp ! We found an funny looking “rock” and it had sea shells embedded in it ! BELIVE the “rock “ may have been CORAL (?) it’s still there I so-pose as it was A VERY BIG “ROCK”! ❤ to ALL OF YOU VOTE 🗳️ 💙BLUE AND KEEP IT MOVING FORWARDS 👉🏼👉🏼👉🏼👉🏼👉🏼👉🏼👉🏼👉🏼. 🙀👵🏻😱🖖🏼👽🐲 “
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
I suspect that the “rock” was part of the Late Paleozoic (Permian) age Kaibab Limestone, which can be found in the Flagstaff region!
@sam18664 ай бұрын
I once thought I had found one of these, but it turned out to be an old Iroquois arrowhead. Still cool, but I was disappointed
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
That is still a really cool find; I hope you do find your Hemipristis tooth some day!
@sam18664 ай бұрын
My favorite species is the pelagic thresher, they’re the coolest. Their tails can be up to 52% of their body length. I love all Condricthyians but these are my favorite by far.
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
Pelagic Threshers are awesome. Would love to make some thresher content in the future!
@sam18664 ай бұрын
Your quick video is better than this species entire Wikipedia page
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
Haha that is very much appreciated, thank you for your kind words!
@sam18664 ай бұрын
Thank you for clearing up misinformation, as someone who is passionate about sharks it annoys me that shark week isn’t always accurate and doesn’t always help to portray sharks in less of a typical negative light like most media does
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
I'm glad to help! It's really unfortunate the lack of scientifically accurate shark-related content produced for mass media these days.
@sam18664 ай бұрын
It’s amazing to think that the Sahara desert was once ocean. I love sharks
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
I love sharks, too! And it is crazy thinking about how many areas you'd never think were ever covered by oceans actually were! Truly shows how much the Earth is ever-changing.
@sam18664 ай бұрын
I pet one once, very cool
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
They are one of the cutest sharks!!!
@sam18664 ай бұрын
I love your videos so much, please continue sharing information on Elasmobranchii they’re my favorite
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
I am really glad that you enjoy these videos. I have plans for lots more long and short-form chondrichthyan content, so stay tuned!
@TheEudaemonicPlague4 ай бұрын
You'd be doing yourself a favor by not aiming the camera at a light that's right behind your head. A better mic wouldn't hurt, either. Tell the truth, your delivery could be improved a bit, too, but mostly, it's that light, right where the viewer is looking that's a problem. Who wants to stare at a light for fifteen minutes? It'd work better if the camera was level with your head, and your head should fill more of the frame. Oh, and relax...you shouldn't need to raise your voice to be heard clearly...listening to a raised voice for long can tire the listener. Just speak normally and adjust your volume after, if it's too faint. Interesting subject; never heard of the critter before...but I haven't paid as much attention to paleontology as I could have...and sharks aren't a high-interest animal for me, either.
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the insightful feedback and advice! It was a makeshift setup at a place that wasn’t mine, and I don’t have a background with making videos; I will be trying to improve my quality of visuals and overall execution as I get more experience with content creation. While I love the science, I understand that good audio and visuals are necessary to better engage with audiences; thank you for sharing!
@beachypeachyy4 ай бұрын
do you think the megladon COULD sitll exist
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
In my opinion the possibility of megalodon existing is extremely low as I don’t believe there are sufficient enough whale populations to harbor a megalodon population, paired with megalodon not being a deep sea-suited predator, and a lack of evidence of its existence, considering it would be the most apex predator alive if it were alive today. A lack of evidence can’t be construed as evidence so the possibility of megalodon existing cannot be 0, I just suspect it is very, very low. I hope this helps!
@LittleVolii4 ай бұрын
hehe i love how kindly amateur your filming setup is. it's still a super good and informative video! you dont need fancy equipment to make a good video :)
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
I really appreciate it; the science should come first!
@MissMonkeyNinja4 ай бұрын
Fucking rad
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@michaeloshea30905 ай бұрын
Paleocarcharodon did not evolve into megalodon , it was a dead end.
@elasmocast4 ай бұрын
That is true; Palaeocarcharodon, while being a relative to C. megalodon within the same family Otodontidae, is not an ancestor to C. megalodon. Palaeocarcharodon is, in my opinion, either a sister taxa to Otodus, or is possibly evolved from the earlier-splitting otodontid shark Kenolamna (which would require a very long-spanning ghost lineage).
@x1mpressed5 ай бұрын
It's cool that there was a pelagic predator that has specialized for hard shell organisms, unlike typically seen in benthic predators