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For as many roguelikes there are out there, I still enjoy them. But I wish they were more classified as a sub genre than a main genre because finding games with roguelike elements is tough since a calm strategic game is as much of a roguelike as a high paced action game and anything between. I say this because I like shmups and I liked the idea of a roguelike shmup and this game looks ssuuppper fun. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

38:45 oof, you did Darkest Dungeon dirty 😱

its crazy unlucky how this is still underground

i switched to bullet hell😈

I don't even like roguelites much (sorry to be pedantic but if it's ain't a "traditional roguelike", it's a roguelite in my book), but I absolutely adored this game, that's how damn incredible this dev is. Though to be fair I absolutely adore danmaku shmups and Touhou games, so it might be just how well it does in that area as I can mostly ignore the roguelite aspect. One of the things shmups really rely on is a low amount of top-notch quality that's fun to repeat and master, so it's pretty crazy how we have here this shmup that has near limitless content _and_ excels at the shmup angle. Most roguelite shmups really, and I mean *really* skimp on the shmup gameplay because it's a difficult genre to incorporate roguelite elements into, which again, just goes to speak to how much of a master this dev is at game design. My only real issue with the game was an onboarding one. The game forces you to an easy difficulty the first time through and you have to beat the game before you can unlock a reasonable one, but the one you're locked to at the beginning if you're a shmup player already is *boring* and feels longer than most shmups, so I almost bounced off the game and it actually took a discussion with the dev on r/shmups to convince me to try it again on the higher difficulty, and once I did that I was hooked.

ah let me just throw a wall of text and 5 different mechanics at player starting out the game.

Small correction: karma does not directly affect future monster levels, but it can feel like it does. More karma means more monster choices and while those are usually of higher level the player can still choose to continue battling lower level monsters. However, monster level in a run will never deplete barring certain gifts or events. Karma is always strictly beneficial unless you are looking for anomaly.

The Void Rains Upon Her Heart might very likely be my favorite game ever

I love TVRUHH so much and I'm so glad someone has recognized how much of a masterpiece it is. thanks for making this video!

Great Video! I am absolutely going to check this game out now! <3

I love blazing beaks so glad someone talked about it

So glad I found this channel! Personally, my hidden gem roguelike is Rogue Glitch. Didn't see it in any of your tierlists, so maybe check it out!

Thank you so much for sharing what you learned, my guy! Please do bring more, I'm bingewatching this channel

bruh this video... as a game dev who binges video essays in his free time i cant believe this is the first time i stumbled across your channel. lovely video, lovely amount of effort put in, lovely voice too. cant wait to see more!

I would have never found this game without you highlighting it. Thank you, for both showing that this exists at all. But also showing just how smart and risky design is important.

Amazing video. Will you release the full interview vith Angel/Veyeral?

WE NEED MORE #RogueDesign !!

Something I really love about this game and by extention Hades is that dying is an actual mechanic, not like roguelike games where the game just restarts or roguelites where you just buy upgrades, but it is used to move on the plot, learn about the 'monsters' you are fighting, on top of the whole upgrading your character.

715? You're late, it's 725 now at the time of this comment. :P Also, there has been an overhaul with the mode where Solara appears very recently so there has been adjustments in gameplay in that mode.

You should play Brutal Orchestra next

i study gamedesign and this video gave me so many ideas on how to branch out this genre and make it significantly less predictable. Damn o_O

While I love the gameplay in Revita, I had some qualms with the design principle The gimmick should be a risk vs reward system, but given the fact that more upgrades are generally optimal and you don't have much way to judge how hard upcoming rooms will be, in practice it's only a reward system where if you do well you get to have more goodies. Ultimately this felt less interesting than the decision making aspects of other roguelites and made it harder to stay engaged with each run even though I enjoy the bosses and evasion based gameplay that's at the core

another fantastic design breakdown!

Ever since seeing this game on your tier list, I knew it was gonna be a new favorite of mine. I've become totally engrossed in the game's intricacies and its seemingly bottomless well of content, as well as it's unique style and ethos. Everything about it - the radiation system, the gifts, its whole sort of feedback loop - is unorthodox in such an interesting and refreshing way that I can't bring myself to put it down! Ive already put 100+ hours into the game and recommended it to friends, and I can't see myself stopping any time soon!

Your channel is such a gem. Honestly. Love these vids.

YESSSS

It’s got great gameplay, but the art style and story is cringe and creepy. Even though it claims to be non-sexual nudity, it still is just offputting how so many characters look weirdly childlike while being nude. The dialogue is annoying and tries too hard to be emotional, funny or heartwarming.

yeah it seems like such a great game

This game somehow managed to survive on Steam for like 5-6 years without a single negative review It was released in early access in 2018, and it didn't get its first negative review until last year.

I liked this game for the few hours I played of it a year and a half ago, but it makes me uncomfortable how ALL of the characters are women, one of the main characters is a naked woman, and yet the developer is a guy. It’s clarified several times that it’s non-sexual nudity but it still rubs me the wrong way.

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OH MY GOD YES, ever since you said you might make a video on void rains in your tier list part 2 I’ve been patiently and excitedly waiting for this video! It’s such an amazing game that I love to death

*insert unfunny 3 views 1 minute fell off ‘joke’*

what is the game at 32:06 ?

Try into the grid!

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Bro you didn't list the music you used from moonlighter. SHAME.

what is your opinion on "Magic Survival"? i find it amazing

Hitless! This man is insane! XD

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I know this is 1.5 years late, but thanks Marc for streaming NecroDancer! As someone who has this game as an all-time favourite, it's neat to watch someone savvy in roguelites (and the game industry) learn it~ Some answers to your questions: - *All-Zones Mode IS the standard mode of play!* Leaderboards, most character-based achievements and the Daily Challenge are only available in the All-Zones format. Yes, Cadence is supposed to start with only 3 hearts -- game is just _that hardcore_ , haha. - No, I think *most people continue playing with Cadence* rather than switching to Bard, and just try to _git gud_ , simply because Cadence is the default character. If you look on Steam's global achievement percentages for NecroDancer, you'll see that there's a slightly higher percentage of people who've completed Cadence All-Zones, vs Bard All-Zones. (Bard All-Zones is actually harder than you think! Try it, and you'll see why. ;D ) Anyway, hope you come back to this sometime, or try the Legend of Zelda rendition ( *Cadence of Hyrule* )! Now that one really puts a different spin on the roguelite format~ :D

Have some changes after final release, before its impossible extraction of green gear, now its possible and we have 2 types of each, if you put 5 or more artifacts have more probalility of get pink gear (cant be extracted), have more status than green ones. I've get all achievements before become final release, last week I bet all new achievements, since dont have to much to do. Its cool, but sometimes have serious design problems... like you said to see status of select hero. But its fun, some times you will rage sometimes... but still fun. PS: last achievements was to get second eye on lava map, ive tried a lot of trys to get, but since in "hard mode" I can barely see something, because the skills are so big and dont stop shooting... (another problem with design lol)

No Cdda?

Imo Hades is a great game but somewhat fails as a roguelike as there is not enough random variation in the levels/bosses making runs feel kinda samey