G o d h o o d vs G o d h e a d

I think relationships are a whole area these sages were not that involved in possibly? Anyone watched couples therapy with Dr Orna. Brilliant. She talks about relationships being a hall of mirrors sometimes. I really think ramesh balsekar comments about the ashes is cruel. You could say its the person who receives the comment who has the issue but surely its both? This is the thing with yoga philosophy etc. It could be suggested as a way of seeing it instead of dismissed. It's very invalidating. Then you get the sages saying we don't need to be loved. Only to love and be free. Sorry but we do as a child. I feel very strongly about childcare and how kids are treated. That's not addressed in Advaita as far as I can tell. Neuroscience tells us kids nervous systems get affected by everything. Very good point about research moving things on. I think non duality isn't wrong, it's just not the full picture. As you say Tim just cos it was 1000s years ago we shouldn't be in awe of it.

Finished watching now. Thanks so much last few minutes brilliant perceptions and awareness fron Jessica - yep they both making same mistakes!

Wow one hour 14 minutes in! I find my mind has been changing constantly watching! The deal with the devil idea jessica- very relatable! What is doing the choosing i think is you - but with love guiding you. Its still me, but im ok to choose now as im more aware. Its not my mums idea, my partner, someone who i look up to. What do i think? You do need to let go and let god. Yes i play piano and im amazed at the muscular memory! Yes absolutely agree we need to come back in from cruise control and change gear. Yep both reductionist.

My issue with non duality is it doesn't speak about child development. Very important research in last 60 years or so. But i do agree we need to drop some story lines and disidentification has helped me with health issues. Non duality has helped me to stop being such a worrier. I do think its whatever hekps you. Again you do need to use yoirself as a guide. Its like a zen koan i guess?

you are a matrix agent without knowing it 😒

I wonder about " seek and ye shall find". Aa Simone de beauvoir says " my philosophy must be from life itself". I think its great and useful to ideate if it helps you live your life. We want to know the truth as if its out there. I have had to change my beliefs alot recently because they havent served my health. If i dont put my health first then i wont be here. But i had lots of illness and trauma in my life. Someone else may say they not bothered about their health if they a freedom fighter they msy be prepared to risk it. This talk makes me think of the notion that everyones truth is different.

I think a lot of the issue is that in the west we havent got a strong sense of the divine and devotion. The nothing that yiu are scared of is very scary! The Christian mystics talk about it. But then you need to create at that point. Its not destruction for destruction sake - its to create something new. 0 contains all the numbers. Being nothing is ok! It means you can create. Freedom. Freedom in christ. Jesus says " leave everything follow me" that could be interpreted as " become nothing". Nothing is juat a word. A concept.

Im half indian and it came to me why it came from India. Indians do like going to extremes- look at the person with the longest nails in the world! 29 minutes in - i think the " ideas are a bad thing" is about not being individualistic. If you have big extended families living togetjer then yes too many ideas around causes arguments. In the west we argue with our parents and then move out! But there you dont. Alot of people living in one place could have lent itsekf to non duality? Also its all very well the sages sitting around coming up with the theories but i bet it was women looking their dinners and kooking after the kids. Id be interested to know what the sages lifes were like.

The no self as i understand it is about not identifying too much with the self. Its useful sonetimes if you are caught up in suffering. You are stuck to an event that happened. I guess its about not taking things too seriously and dropping stories if thet are not joyful and dont serve you. I play piano amd im proud ( well joyful amd feel at home with it rather than proud). But other things ive done i have to drop or it will destroy me. 26 minutes in - yes i agree and thats where i leave the teaching saying that even the I Am doesnt exist. Ive been into non duality forca year or so. I kinda get it but then i need to get on with my life in terms of looking after my body and enjoying being creative and having fun!

I think the tree analogy is saying the tree is a collection of atoms. We see it as a tree. We have given it a name. But its still a tree to us! Its ok. It doesnt mean its not there in a way. 16 minutes in, it about imbuing your own meaning. Finding joy? Joyful effort in your work. Community and having fun with friends creates positive energy needed for life.

I'm a psychogist! Non duality doesnt speak about early childhood. The ideas of non duality however cool they sound, however someone says its " true", well does that really speak to you where you are? What aboyt people who havent really developed a sense of self? I struggled with it and so did my brother to the extent that he developed schizophrenia( from stressful domineering dad). He always thinks of others, has no opinions. He doesnt knkw what he thinks, as though he isnt there. He is so lovely but struggles with looking after himself. I think Byron Katies the work can be very dangerous for some people because although we may never akways be listened to and seen somethings we need to be listened to if its to do with basic needs.

I like simone de beauvoir saying " my philosophy must be from life itself". Ive always struggled with trusting myself- whatever the myself is! The thing is its the myself has to deal wuth the consequences of issues and no one else may be able to help you.

Thank you for recording your experience and sharing it with the rest of us🙏🏼

It is so great, I am deeply grateful I found your channel, books, podcast, everything. Big, big, thank you 🙏🏼

Isn't the question of suffering and evil answered, in Christian theology, by the existence of Satan?

Pre contemplative! - Your approach to this project is similar to my approach to writing music. In a sense, - the music is written - in my head, -I have been writing it all my life! Then comes the complexity of bringing it into the material world. What instruments to use, what is the best workflow.....how to combine improvisation into the recording - is my technical equipment good enough etc etc. I look forward to your new blog/vlog -as I have followed your thoughts developing over the last 25 years. Where did the time go!

The theater of "lucid" dreaming is completely different than objective out of body experiences and remote viewing....

Ok, but where is Julie in this?!

Really looking forward to the next step Tim, Soul Story was superb and stretched me out….cant quite believe it’s 8 years on! Thanks for the update - can’t wait !

I’m not sure I 100% agree with the translation of soul for psuche . I tend to think that psuche is another aspect of our existence which can be summed up in the four letter word life. But it’s different than biological life. It’s different than zoe. It’s different than pneumatic/spiritual life, but it doesn’t mean soul, as if it were a bodiless energy Again, I’m going to have to disagree. Pneuma does not mean Spirit. It has the connotation of that in terms of referring to the life of a man, but it is also wind and breath.

No offense but you have to be deaf dumb and blind not to think and have no discernment on a Spiritual demiurge and archons! I am a way old person who had recently came out of b.s. Christianity. I as a sincere dedicated / sacrificial young Christian had a spiritual attack non my life and believe you me i could not think upt his Evil being up in a million years !!! It would take to long to go into it . But it was some type of powerful all evil archon !!

The Battle for Consciousness Theory: A Response to Ken Wilber's Hijacking of Sri Aurobindo and Other Indian Thought on the right

My teacher once told to me stop reading books, stop trying to figure it out, just meditate and if you do that for long enough all your questions will be answered. I didn’t believe him at the time….

from a philosopher to a philosopher : this is a philosopher.

From all of us at the Mystics Of Texas… we love you brother

This is becoming disturbing. If what you have to offer is life changing, why does this broadcast appear as one who is obsessed with discovering how to move his product forward? If you were truly discovering something unique and universally accessible I would think you would be presenting as one who is at rest.

Can’t wait!!!!!

All sounds great - Good luck with the podbook

We take you for granted Dr. Freke. I find myself very lucky to know your work these past 20 years. These latest videos of yours are beaming with genuine connection and beauty.

Well my brother, you are coming to the US. That is my journey of 1000 miles. Leave that to me and the others dreaming that dream. The groundswell is just beginning and we will need support, but it is well within our means.

Really looking forward to the pod book!😀

I would love to be there

Thanks again for another video, great stuff. Cheers from Doha, Qatar

Would Love 2 hear you & David Bingham in conversation again i loved your conversations on conscious tv

Galations 4:24 - "Which things are an allegory." By definition, there can be only one all-inclusive or Absolute Being (Life), in which all relative beings live, move and have their Being. Love is the recognition of our shared Being The abstract (Heaven) called Love by the Psyche (Firmament) can be expressed concretely (Earth) as a smile, hug, etc, thereby uniting Heaven and Earth. Gnosis = Highest common denominator. Religion = lowest common denominator.

Your work is truly profound, rethinking major spiritual traditions in a modern context. The cloud metaphor is brilliant, and the idea of soul evolution as the next stage beyond physical life resonates deeply. Your efforts to reconcile science and spirituality are vital for the modern world, addressing questions many of us grapple with. As a philosopher, you have the time and depth to explore these complexities, and you do it brilliantly, thank you.

I have been watching a few "Soul Trap" videos today, very interesting, and plausible at times, but at the end it did not truly resonate with me, and I kept asking , "so why would this be allowed to happen" ?? ........ What you explain here Tim is more what I have come to believe. Thank you for putting me on the straight and narrow again. PS> 3 or 4 times in my life, in the past 5 years ( I am 65) out of the blue, I was completely enveloped in the "blanket" of pure Love, it made me burst into tears of joy spontaneously, and it could not be denied or even questioned. I wish we could all experience this relatively regularly, it would change the world.

EASTER EVERYWHERE

I wonder what would happen, or - rather - how things would be on this planet, if everybody fully realized the Inner Christ/Brahman/Buddha Nature...

An interesting talk thanks; spirituality for atheists

20:44 14 billion years? Is this not "reducing"/"reductionist"? What started the big bang? What started it? Pardon my emerging questions here lol

One way to conceptualize these "ego states" is to become aware, we are not our ego states, from a spiritual perspective they are spirits. Becoming aware of this begins to separate them from our ego and helps to develope the ability to separate them from the ego and being consumed by them.

My spiritual transformative experience: I had my first experience at the age 21y/o under the blessing of a very experienced, spiritually knowledgeable teacher (Prem Rawat) I started to experience the testimony from others who had similar experiences from June of 1973 and continued listening daily until my peak experience in Sept of 1973. I specifically requested to learn the meditation that was being taught by Prem Rawat. I was invited to hear others and listen to their experiences. I sat and listened with my heart and soul for several hours, and then at a certain amount of time (several hours) the testimony ended. And that's when the spiritual teacher went around to each person, and then while sitting quietly, I remember the teacher coming to me and asked if I wanted this experience of meditation. I answered that I did (yes), upon which the teacher revealed the actions of meditation, to look within myself, beyond the mind energy within, to the divine energy of light and love. Suddenly I felt myself moving through a dark Tunnel (like stated in so many NDE's) None of us were familiar with NDE experiences at that time. I kept traveling quickly through the tunnel and then suddenly a very bright light appeared before my eyes, the light was so bright, sweat was dripping from my face, the light was so, so, beautiful, an overwhelming experience. I was then shown the light with white doves flying from the light and rainbows flowing and expanding from the center of the light too. I know it may sound implausible to many people, but it really happened. Not only did I experience the Light, white doves and rainbows, I felt a deep profound love that enveloped my being in those moments. I am not sure how long I was inside of this dimension but eventually I felt being pulled back through the tunnel, and then greeting my meditation teacher. He sat before and asked me what I had experienced, as I replied with a very full heart of love, the profound love and peace that only comes from God. I said that I experienced complete Awe. I was overwhelmed at the beauty of the light, while I was still swimming in pure love and peace. Peace as in the absence of all general anxiety or angst, depression, anger and hate to a dimension of love and peace. When I stood up to leave the home where I experienced a beautiful overwhelming joy and bliss, where space and time just disappeared. I had two young men escort me to my car, where they stayed with me until they were assured that my feet were once again, solid on the ground and I was safe to drive home. I am 72 as of this post, and I still meditate on the same techniques, the same experience that my soul had so many years ago. a true awakening, which I know is deeply connected to God the infinite.

I was wondering what type of process was responsible for order in the universe, evolution, emergence, life, psyche and soul and whether it can only be either mental or material or both - I guess as the ground of being is mysterious that would be fine. Obviously it can start off as a hybrid of the two or just material - If it was just mental then you are referring to a creative force like a God. People will naturally consider what TYPE of process is at play as these are the types of minds you are dealing with considering this kind of subject matter. You could say I guess that the mental realms required a level of evolutionary and emergent complexity to appear but then people might say you are suggesting that consciousness is the product of a brain (material). I think it will be tricky not to arrive at some material model or at least an hybrid of the two.

it's all interconnected. it's like frost forming on a window. holistic interconnectedness and possibilities

Really ? La la la land No soul trap

An ant in the hall of the great king trying to explain God. Cute. Van Morriston speaks of, " the inarticulate speech of the heart." Kabir speaks of a pitcher bubbling away as it sinks. Then it's not heard from. And yet we are compelled to speak of it. Or it's like a snail crawling its way up a wall feeling it out and wanting to describe what's over the top. Ramakrishna speaks of the ego knowledge and Tim gets marks for trying while others dance, weep, sing, laugh and.... osculate.

So I want to continue after meditating on what it is you’re presenting and I’m very much in alignment with the concept of the emergent God and the idea of the evolution and fullness of the psyche evolving we are on this evolutionary communal path, but I’m having trouble with is the concept that that there might not be a power rGreater than myself, and you may know that phrase from a certain program . I’m trying to incorporate what you’re saying into my understanding I think from me I have to look at it as a cyclical experience and that we and the psychic that we are evolving with and through and into are Part of a repeating cycle ..scripture says Jesus told us that the father is in him and he is in the father and I believe that is true for my self as for all human beings. I’m not quite ready to give up the idea that there is not a psych that is eternal and all powerful, and is also engaged in an emergence in our evolution, which is one of countless evolutions of psyche throughout a Multiverse throughout an infinite manifestation

You have reminded me of the Paul Tillich quote, “The courage to be is rooted in the God who appears when God has disappeared in the anxiety of doubt” I understand you’re describing something somewhat different but sense you’re both moving in a similar direction where we release ourselves of the concept and the ideology of an existing God and all of the characteristics so that we can experience the emerging God and ..I find it very, very fascinating ..and I’m very grateful