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@user-zt3xg7hj5y
@user-zt3xg7hj5y Ай бұрын
Excellent podcast that is farriers in Ocala also everyone just throws on a shoe if it affects horse intergrity
@airmidbodyworks6467
@airmidbodyworks6467 2 ай бұрын
True Equine professionals know that alleviating pain is the purpose of their job not making money.
@traceyneveling6420
@traceyneveling6420 4 ай бұрын
Very informative video!! Can't wait to share this with my daughter, she is a farrier and she talks about a lot of this.
@user-wc3je6ti3i
@user-wc3je6ti3i 7 ай бұрын
Need advice to help my 18 months mare which was born with dropped pasterns
@pacobarr9710
@pacobarr9710 10 ай бұрын
he idea that they need shoes to walk on te tarmac seems astonishing to me, to way the least, my barefoot horse runs on tarmac and stony tracks and i still have to rasp the walls to stop them overgrowing, wonder if the fact that the speaker is a farrier has something to do with it, since his conclusión seems to be that shoes are necessary
@konnipaysen4896
@konnipaysen4896 10 ай бұрын
Gene Ovnicek avaluats the hoof from the bottom
@konnipaysen4896
@konnipaysen4896 10 ай бұрын
Gene Ovnicek points out axatly that
@SueLangford-pz6ue
@SueLangford-pz6ue 11 ай бұрын
Use Scoot boots to walk on tar roads and then take off to race. I am in Australia.
@KathrynRose-schultz-qs6qw
@KathrynRose-schultz-qs6qw Жыл бұрын
What I meant is, farriers trained with your ideas should be seeing all horses in their counties. So many horses are being put down due to poor hoof care. Owners should be registered to each horse.
@KathrynRose-schultz-qs6qw
@KathrynRose-schultz-qs6qw Жыл бұрын
Don’t you think horses should be registered in their counties then registered with farriers to start their care and then your improvements would be awesome!
@ingridanderson5955
@ingridanderson5955 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, so much great information, thanks for making this available to all involved with horses - for the well-being of horses into the future.
@comesahorseman
@comesahorseman Жыл бұрын
Now, what about Standardbreds??
@thehappyhoof
@thehappyhoof Жыл бұрын
It's not the shoes it's the stuff between the ears of the one's trimming, the beliefs the doctrines that distort these feet and cause caudal failure.
@judymiller5154
@judymiller5154 8 ай бұрын
actually the standard open heel shoes contribute greatly to caudal failure.
@kathykellison4421
@kathykellison4421 Жыл бұрын
Ok... why it has taken me so long to have this connection demonstrated to me,,, I have asked farriers, vets, body workers, why when my horse is being trimmed for shoes on his front feet he squirms around with his head and neck like it is bothering even though he is sound... everyone says he is just being impatient... because there are no nerves in his hoof... now what because obviously in my area there is no one that is understanding this?
@user-pp5px4gj6s
@user-pp5px4gj6s Жыл бұрын
Fascinating information. Thank you. When you were talking about the facsia being like a connected net it reminded me about something called Indras Net or The Net of Gems where every connection reflects every other connection, .a universal design in nature. Also there is the exciting structure of the electrical highway that travels within and throughout the fascia network.
@jessicahowell1383
@jessicahowell1383 2 жыл бұрын
How can I purchase this exact pad from Derek? I didn't see it on the website...
@wmbair8565
@wmbair8565 2 жыл бұрын
The picture at 3:25 shows it all. The coronet band on the right is straight, on the left it sinks in the rear of the hoof. This indicates that the heels have been lowered, which is standard practice for farriers who don't know any better and just keep mindlessly doing what they've been taught without challenging the method they follow. The heels should never be lowered to less than a quarter of an inch above the sole plane, measured at the seat of corn. Do not measure heels by looking at the back of the hoof! The sole is the intuitive structure of the hoof and it dictates where it wants everything to be in regards to the hoof wall and heels. When the heels are "taken back and down" like is preached by farriers abroad, the hoof is on its way to pathological breakdown and ruin. It's really that simple. Bevel the hoof wall at a 20 degree angle down to the sole plane and leave the heels one quarter to three eights of an inch above the sole plane at the seat of the corn. Back the toe when a ridge forms to indicate that the hoof wants it backed. Nature knows. Ask any wild horse, they'll tell you the same.
@judymiller5154
@judymiller5154 2 жыл бұрын
At about 39 minutes, you described corrective shoeing of a jumper, cautioning the owners to allow some time for adjustment. The audio had been a bit garbled so to clarify - did you say a 5-7° change in PA? Is that done often? My mare is level and I can only get a 2° wedge shoe OR pad...seems quite insufficient, but I have no way to argue "the professionals".
@judymiller5154
@judymiller5154 8 ай бұрын
update a year later: I fired all the farriers and started trimming her myself!!! I'm 77, not much hand strength, and never much for tools. I saw on Progressive Equine Services how caudal failure can be reversed through an altered trim plane (more off toe, less off heels), and shoeing with DIM and a 3D pad. On my mare, trim change alone, over time, brought one heel angle from below 10° to over 20°. Stopped removing the dirt pack except for trimming. (Very dry so no worries about thrush.) Now experimenting with boots, pads, and DIM, until the rain starts, then she will have to be barefoot except I will use the boot package for daily hand-walking.
@thisirishcobcan
@thisirishcobcan 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the comments re heart bars BUT, remember that environment plays a massive role in shoe choice. In winter time, heel support 3D pads have more chance of being pulled off (experienced it), especially in bad weather. Heart bar shoes were a good option for me and my specific situation. As a plus, the hoof generally gets filled with mud in wet weather meaning the horses hoof is well supported by the ground anyway, when out in the field. It’s a case of mitigating damage according to the horse and environment. There’s no point using a certain type of shoe package if a horse keeps pulling the shoe, or the horse doesn’t like it (my horse wasn’t keen on hoof packing).
@comesahorseman
@comesahorseman 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@countchocula5379
@countchocula5379 3 жыл бұрын
This is FABULOUS information. THANK YOU! 🙏🏻
@kathleenbeesley3539
@kathleenbeesley3539 3 жыл бұрын
I lowve your discussions! I learn so much . Thank you for taking the time to make these videos - all the hard work is very much appreciated.
@susanneboskovich4515
@susanneboskovich4515 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly valuable information that you are giving away for the betterment of equine lives. I highly respect that you are providing access at no cost; you both have a lot invested in your knowledge, and this information, without trying to sell us anything, is rare today and shows how much you value horses and the human-horse relationship. Thank you both very, very much!
@holisticreflectionscic8881
@holisticreflectionscic8881 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Shared with appreciation!
@mariroberson-soranch1476
@mariroberson-soranch1476 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on helping negative rear palmar angles with open toed shoes?
@judymiller5154
@judymiller5154 2 жыл бұрын
what have you learned about this? would the key be the frog/caudal support, or the open toe?
@mariroberson-soranch1476
@mariroberson-soranch1476 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone who addresses that the horse’s conformation is a factor on how hoof distortions need to be addressed!!!
@LaizyDaisy
@LaizyDaisy 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't the TB's wear boots on the metalled roads and abrasive surfaces? My TB (ex racer) had his last set of shoes taken off at 11yo and his foot shape has changed in the way you describe, but needs the protection of lightweight boots for hacking. My farrier keeps the hoof tidy as he would normally. We don't hack much and do get plenty of time on the beach.
@theequinedocumentalist2132
@theequinedocumentalist2132 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know the ins and outs of the training regime. But this would certainly be a question for the trainer.
@jacquisims2054
@jacquisims2054 3 жыл бұрын
What a great discussion! Thank you! It is so heartening to hear such a successful stable trains barefoot. I recently got my trainers license and have my horses barefoot but do have to have tips applied under race rules for raceday that i then take off that night when we get home. Their feet are doing so well
@Amber71
@Amber71 3 жыл бұрын
I read every document you put out and watch all your videos. Equine body worker here and your information helps me so much to help my clients. Feed, living conditions, farrier, vet and body work team plus trainer and owner...Its a village to have a sound horse! Your hi/lo article showing how that effects the shoulders helped me catch something for a client just last week. I vow to take annual hoof xrays of my personal horses forevermore. I am encouraging my clients/friends/anyone that will listen to do the same. I was SHOCKED when I looked at my horses hoof xrays. I took xrays every cycle through fixing his feet. Now that I understand what you are teaching I see collapsed and contracted heels everywhere. I thought maybe I was hyper aware of it but 75-90% is a lot...too many! Thank you both for this educational video.
@ConnieGrippin1955
@ConnieGrippin1955 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious about the measuring system your using? available or affordable to the average consumer? Great presentation. Thank you. Sharing with my horse hoof groups.
@StewartHorsemanship
@StewartHorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of good information, but I can't see any alternative shoes. Why??? There are so many orthopedic shoes out there, since more than 20 years, but you only use the old iron. B.T.W. they do more harm than good to the stressed inner structures.
@theequinedocumentalist2132
@theequinedocumentalist2132 3 жыл бұрын
There are alternatives in the last slide. This videocast was to concentrate on raising awareness of the issue and talk about it. I may do further videocasts focusing on different shoes
@StewartHorsemanship
@StewartHorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
@@theequinedocumentalist2132 This will be great. I work with horses suffering od hoof distortion, cracks, Laminitis, and so on.
@HoofStudies
@HoofStudies 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed every moment. Was quite fun when Wayne’s dialogue slowed to alien talk! Honestly- this was excellent and I applaud you both for this presentation and your whole horse view-not just the foot. Also to stop the foot distortion, not try to sort it after the distortion is chronic!
@theequinedocumentalist2132
@theequinedocumentalist2132 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😊 yeah we had a few connection issues from opposite ends of the globe 😂
@LovingRockDoula
@LovingRockDoula 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@olekk.1438
@olekk.1438 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Can you tell me what kind of insert it is, I mean inside the shoe and what it does? ps Great chanel:)
@theequinedocumentalist2132
@theequinedocumentalist2132 4 жыл бұрын
This is a 3d printed insert from 3DFarrier.com. posts on my FB page go into explanations of my different applications.
@olekk.1438
@olekk.1438 4 жыл бұрын
@@theequinedocumentalist2132 thank a lot.
@HoofStudies
@HoofStudies 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely an amazing video cast. Thanks so much for this- I am watching it again and again and it’s such a fabulous resource. Thank you so much.
@aluz827
@aluz827 4 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@CarolaAdolf
@CarolaAdolf 4 жыл бұрын
I am so excited that barehoof racing has come more seriously onto the radar of ‘the establishment’. Listening to the presentation I can clearly hear and see where ‘us bareHoofers’ could foll in the gaps and assist with our point of understanding. It’s a great start to more cooperation of conventional and natural and to look at other valuable research in addition to Prof Bowker’s.
@kittybecker-smits154
@kittybecker-smits154 9 ай бұрын
Ditto... For the Love of Horse
@nrhoofcare7724
@nrhoofcare7724 4 жыл бұрын
Sheesh these TB's leave farriers scratching their heads! Excellent discussion and ideas here, thank you. Just some side thoughts. Could the barefoot racehorses in Newmarket simply have boots put on when walking on the tarmac to the track for training and then taken off? What are the legal requirements regarding types of shoes on the track? I would love to see more Epona style shoes that reduce concussion and distribute load across the solar structures rather than just the hoof wall. I hope Derek purchases Metron hoofscan software, he could provide some very interesting data following the morphology of the horses under his care.
@SuePEquestrian
@SuePEquestrian 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. Great visual images! Look forward to your next discussion.
@jamesgoodman2267
@jamesgoodman2267 4 жыл бұрын
Top stuff
@alenadudaronak6771
@alenadudaronak6771 4 жыл бұрын
Gallop training does not reduce the angle of the hoof, shoeing does!
@theequinedocumentalist2132
@theequinedocumentalist2132 4 жыл бұрын
That is a study that would need to be done. Someone would need to compare the findings of Peel et al. (2010) with a cohort of barefoot horses undergoing the same regime. However the gist of the discussion would suggest your point my well be valid. 👍
@arianerezvani7373
@arianerezvani7373 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Extremely informational.
@irideCrossTraining
@irideCrossTraining 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. As a Rider, Trainer and Bodyworker, it's imperative to study these things I am also sharing all things Fascia to my Farrier, who is also my husband! I'm also sharing with Farriers in our area. Would you happen to have currently or in the near future a book with all this info and pictures???
@lucasa1849
@lucasa1849 4 жыл бұрын
That's so intresting
@lisab2157
@lisab2157 4 жыл бұрын
My two new favourite people!!! from a holistic equine bodyworker perspective, utilizing bowen and fascia work, I find this so enlightening and reaffirming!!!
@StewartHorsemanship
@StewartHorsemanship 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! It's quite the same I have to explain to my clients day after day. Only that I use modern shoeing products for most issues. The "good old iron" comes only in hand if there is no other alternative. Oh, b.t.w. I'm a Hoof Tech.