Excellent podcast that is farriers in Ocala also everyone just throws on a shoe if it affects horse intergrity
@airmidbodyworks64672 ай бұрын
True Equine professionals know that alleviating pain is the purpose of their job not making money.
@traceyneveling64204 ай бұрын
Very informative video!! Can't wait to share this with my daughter, she is a farrier and she talks about a lot of this.
@user-wc3je6ti3i7 ай бұрын
Need advice to help my 18 months mare which was born with dropped pasterns
@pacobarr971010 ай бұрын
he idea that they need shoes to walk on te tarmac seems astonishing to me, to way the least, my barefoot horse runs on tarmac and stony tracks and i still have to rasp the walls to stop them overgrowing, wonder if the fact that the speaker is a farrier has something to do with it, since his conclusión seems to be that shoes are necessary
@konnipaysen489610 ай бұрын
Gene Ovnicek avaluats the hoof from the bottom
@konnipaysen489610 ай бұрын
Gene Ovnicek points out axatly that
@SueLangford-pz6ue11 ай бұрын
Use Scoot boots to walk on tar roads and then take off to race. I am in Australia.
@KathrynRose-schultz-qs6qw Жыл бұрын
What I meant is, farriers trained with your ideas should be seeing all horses in their counties. So many horses are being put down due to poor hoof care. Owners should be registered to each horse.
@KathrynRose-schultz-qs6qw Жыл бұрын
Don’t you think horses should be registered in their counties then registered with farriers to start their care and then your improvements would be awesome!
@ingridanderson5955 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, so much great information, thanks for making this available to all involved with horses - for the well-being of horses into the future.
@comesahorseman Жыл бұрын
Now, what about Standardbreds??
@thehappyhoof Жыл бұрын
It's not the shoes it's the stuff between the ears of the one's trimming, the beliefs the doctrines that distort these feet and cause caudal failure.
@judymiller51548 ай бұрын
actually the standard open heel shoes contribute greatly to caudal failure.
@kathykellison4421 Жыл бұрын
Ok... why it has taken me so long to have this connection demonstrated to me,,, I have asked farriers, vets, body workers, why when my horse is being trimmed for shoes on his front feet he squirms around with his head and neck like it is bothering even though he is sound... everyone says he is just being impatient... because there are no nerves in his hoof... now what because obviously in my area there is no one that is understanding this?
@user-pp5px4gj6s Жыл бұрын
Fascinating information. Thank you. When you were talking about the facsia being like a connected net it reminded me about something called Indras Net or The Net of Gems where every connection reflects every other connection, .a universal design in nature. Also there is the exciting structure of the electrical highway that travels within and throughout the fascia network.
@jessicahowell13832 жыл бұрын
How can I purchase this exact pad from Derek? I didn't see it on the website...
@wmbair85652 жыл бұрын
The picture at 3:25 shows it all. The coronet band on the right is straight, on the left it sinks in the rear of the hoof. This indicates that the heels have been lowered, which is standard practice for farriers who don't know any better and just keep mindlessly doing what they've been taught without challenging the method they follow. The heels should never be lowered to less than a quarter of an inch above the sole plane, measured at the seat of corn. Do not measure heels by looking at the back of the hoof! The sole is the intuitive structure of the hoof and it dictates where it wants everything to be in regards to the hoof wall and heels. When the heels are "taken back and down" like is preached by farriers abroad, the hoof is on its way to pathological breakdown and ruin. It's really that simple. Bevel the hoof wall at a 20 degree angle down to the sole plane and leave the heels one quarter to three eights of an inch above the sole plane at the seat of the corn. Back the toe when a ridge forms to indicate that the hoof wants it backed. Nature knows. Ask any wild horse, they'll tell you the same.
@judymiller51542 жыл бұрын
At about 39 minutes, you described corrective shoeing of a jumper, cautioning the owners to allow some time for adjustment. The audio had been a bit garbled so to clarify - did you say a 5-7° change in PA? Is that done often? My mare is level and I can only get a 2° wedge shoe OR pad...seems quite insufficient, but I have no way to argue "the professionals".
@judymiller51548 ай бұрын
update a year later: I fired all the farriers and started trimming her myself!!! I'm 77, not much hand strength, and never much for tools. I saw on Progressive Equine Services how caudal failure can be reversed through an altered trim plane (more off toe, less off heels), and shoeing with DIM and a 3D pad. On my mare, trim change alone, over time, brought one heel angle from below 10° to over 20°. Stopped removing the dirt pack except for trimming. (Very dry so no worries about thrush.) Now experimenting with boots, pads, and DIM, until the rain starts, then she will have to be barefoot except I will use the boot package for daily hand-walking.
@thisirishcobcan2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the comments re heart bars BUT, remember that environment plays a massive role in shoe choice. In winter time, heel support 3D pads have more chance of being pulled off (experienced it), especially in bad weather. Heart bar shoes were a good option for me and my specific situation. As a plus, the hoof generally gets filled with mud in wet weather meaning the horses hoof is well supported by the ground anyway, when out in the field. It’s a case of mitigating damage according to the horse and environment. There’s no point using a certain type of shoe package if a horse keeps pulling the shoe, or the horse doesn’t like it (my horse wasn’t keen on hoof packing).
@comesahorseman2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@countchocula53793 жыл бұрын
This is FABULOUS information. THANK YOU! 🙏🏻
@kathleenbeesley35393 жыл бұрын
I lowve your discussions! I learn so much . Thank you for taking the time to make these videos - all the hard work is very much appreciated.
@susanneboskovich45153 жыл бұрын
Incredibly valuable information that you are giving away for the betterment of equine lives. I highly respect that you are providing access at no cost; you both have a lot invested in your knowledge, and this information, without trying to sell us anything, is rare today and shows how much you value horses and the human-horse relationship. Thank you both very, very much!
@holisticreflectionscic88813 жыл бұрын
Great video! Shared with appreciation!
@mariroberson-soranch14763 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on helping negative rear palmar angles with open toed shoes?
@judymiller51542 жыл бұрын
what have you learned about this? would the key be the frog/caudal support, or the open toe?
@mariroberson-soranch14763 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone who addresses that the horse’s conformation is a factor on how hoof distortions need to be addressed!!!
@LaizyDaisy3 жыл бұрын
Why can't the TB's wear boots on the metalled roads and abrasive surfaces? My TB (ex racer) had his last set of shoes taken off at 11yo and his foot shape has changed in the way you describe, but needs the protection of lightweight boots for hacking. My farrier keeps the hoof tidy as he would normally. We don't hack much and do get plenty of time on the beach.
@theequinedocumentalist21323 жыл бұрын
I don’t know the ins and outs of the training regime. But this would certainly be a question for the trainer.
@jacquisims20543 жыл бұрын
What a great discussion! Thank you! It is so heartening to hear such a successful stable trains barefoot. I recently got my trainers license and have my horses barefoot but do have to have tips applied under race rules for raceday that i then take off that night when we get home. Their feet are doing so well
@Amber713 жыл бұрын
I read every document you put out and watch all your videos. Equine body worker here and your information helps me so much to help my clients. Feed, living conditions, farrier, vet and body work team plus trainer and owner...Its a village to have a sound horse! Your hi/lo article showing how that effects the shoulders helped me catch something for a client just last week. I vow to take annual hoof xrays of my personal horses forevermore. I am encouraging my clients/friends/anyone that will listen to do the same. I was SHOCKED when I looked at my horses hoof xrays. I took xrays every cycle through fixing his feet. Now that I understand what you are teaching I see collapsed and contracted heels everywhere. I thought maybe I was hyper aware of it but 75-90% is a lot...too many! Thank you both for this educational video.
@ConnieGrippin19553 жыл бұрын
Just curious about the measuring system your using? available or affordable to the average consumer? Great presentation. Thank you. Sharing with my horse hoof groups.
@StewartHorsemanship3 жыл бұрын
A lot of good information, but I can't see any alternative shoes. Why??? There are so many orthopedic shoes out there, since more than 20 years, but you only use the old iron. B.T.W. they do more harm than good to the stressed inner structures.
@theequinedocumentalist21323 жыл бұрын
There are alternatives in the last slide. This videocast was to concentrate on raising awareness of the issue and talk about it. I may do further videocasts focusing on different shoes
@StewartHorsemanship3 жыл бұрын
@@theequinedocumentalist2132 This will be great. I work with horses suffering od hoof distortion, cracks, Laminitis, and so on.
@HoofStudies3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed every moment. Was quite fun when Wayne’s dialogue slowed to alien talk! Honestly- this was excellent and I applaud you both for this presentation and your whole horse view-not just the foot. Also to stop the foot distortion, not try to sort it after the distortion is chronic!
@theequinedocumentalist21323 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😊 yeah we had a few connection issues from opposite ends of the globe 😂
@LovingRockDoula3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@olekk.14384 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Can you tell me what kind of insert it is, I mean inside the shoe and what it does? ps Great chanel:)
@theequinedocumentalist21324 жыл бұрын
This is a 3d printed insert from 3DFarrier.com. posts on my FB page go into explanations of my different applications.
@olekk.14384 жыл бұрын
@@theequinedocumentalist2132 thank a lot.
@HoofStudies4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely an amazing video cast. Thanks so much for this- I am watching it again and again and it’s such a fabulous resource. Thank you so much.
@aluz8274 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@CarolaAdolf4 жыл бұрын
I am so excited that barehoof racing has come more seriously onto the radar of ‘the establishment’. Listening to the presentation I can clearly hear and see where ‘us bareHoofers’ could foll in the gaps and assist with our point of understanding. It’s a great start to more cooperation of conventional and natural and to look at other valuable research in addition to Prof Bowker’s.
@kittybecker-smits1549 ай бұрын
Ditto... For the Love of Horse
@nrhoofcare77244 жыл бұрын
Sheesh these TB's leave farriers scratching their heads! Excellent discussion and ideas here, thank you. Just some side thoughts. Could the barefoot racehorses in Newmarket simply have boots put on when walking on the tarmac to the track for training and then taken off? What are the legal requirements regarding types of shoes on the track? I would love to see more Epona style shoes that reduce concussion and distribute load across the solar structures rather than just the hoof wall. I hope Derek purchases Metron hoofscan software, he could provide some very interesting data following the morphology of the horses under his care.
@SuePEquestrian4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. Great visual images! Look forward to your next discussion.
@jamesgoodman22674 жыл бұрын
Top stuff
@alenadudaronak67714 жыл бұрын
Gallop training does not reduce the angle of the hoof, shoeing does!
@theequinedocumentalist21324 жыл бұрын
That is a study that would need to be done. Someone would need to compare the findings of Peel et al. (2010) with a cohort of barefoot horses undergoing the same regime. However the gist of the discussion would suggest your point my well be valid. 👍
@arianerezvani73734 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Extremely informational.
@irideCrossTraining4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. As a Rider, Trainer and Bodyworker, it's imperative to study these things I am also sharing all things Fascia to my Farrier, who is also my husband! I'm also sharing with Farriers in our area. Would you happen to have currently or in the near future a book with all this info and pictures???
@lucasa18494 жыл бұрын
That's so intresting
@lisab21574 жыл бұрын
My two new favourite people!!! from a holistic equine bodyworker perspective, utilizing bowen and fascia work, I find this so enlightening and reaffirming!!!
@StewartHorsemanship4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! It's quite the same I have to explain to my clients day after day. Only that I use modern shoeing products for most issues. The "good old iron" comes only in hand if there is no other alternative. Oh, b.t.w. I'm a Hoof Tech.