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@xaviersejour9183
@xaviersejour9183 3 сағат бұрын
When I watched it I noticed they went to Tokyo and visit a “Chao Garden” as if it was a restaurant with a stage show I know it’s a reference to Adventure 2 in which the whole movie is loosely based on. What are Chaos in this world? Sonic tails and knuckles have probably never seen a Chao and as far as I know chaos is still asleep in the master emerald Also am I confused or am I just now realizing Chao and Chaos Is the same word. And that someone would probably be calling the little fairy creatures chaos and there not wrong
@space.404
@space.404 4 сағат бұрын
That bit you mentioned about the target audience and the lack of female characters in action media (in general) was something that I've felt for a long time, and one of the reasons i felt ashamed of liking sonic when i was younger, just like you I actually cheered on the theater when I saw Amy Rose 😂 I have high hopes she is gonna play a major role in the next movie.
@Mary-bi7sw
@Mary-bi7sw 10 сағат бұрын
Love
@RHEMEMES
@RHEMEMES Күн бұрын
As a little nod we can see biolizard in the movie that maria and shadow were watching
@davidp5784
@davidp5784 Күн бұрын
I think censoring is the wrong word here in an adaptation. But while you bring up interesting points i think its difficult to engage with the video seriously when off the bat you're mistaken about usage of a gun/firearm right at the start, like your thesis just backfires a little from the jump.
@howdoknow
@howdoknow Күн бұрын
It was already weird enough giving shadow a gun knowing his character I’m glad they limited it shadow honestly doesn’t need it in the first place
@Hedgie3
@Hedgie3 13 сағат бұрын
I've been feeling the same way about that. I never wanted him to use any guns in this movie, so I've thought of it as a relief that when he did, it was only for a few minutes, that he wasn't using a bullet gun and that he never used another one after that motorcycle chase scene. PS, Don't think that he'll be holding any in future Sonic games because last year SEGA announced that Shadow won't be using guns anymore. Him having one and that motorcycle was just 2 short references to his 2005 game in that third movie.
@howdoknow
@howdoknow 13 сағат бұрын
@ good because Shadows suppose to be the quiet introverted anti hero that protects humanity and the earth along side his friend and Allies the one we all love I determine my own destiny but other than the gun in the 3rd movie I think they nailed shadows character instead of making him an edgelord
@Hedgie3
@Hedgie3 12 сағат бұрын
@@howdoknow In Shadow Generations he was acting like that better version of himself too and I've been glad about that.
@howdoknow
@howdoknow 12 сағат бұрын
@ yea same there slowly redeeming how the characters are suppose to be acting this whole time
@shadowking2048
@shadowking2048 Күн бұрын
You should mix the music audio a little quieter. It was kinda hard to hear you talking over it. Otherwise good video.
@ice_popzz6623
@ice_popzz6623 Күн бұрын
When you think about it they censored a lot, shadow has a laser gun, no biolizard probably because of budget but it could also be censoring, no Gerald execution, no actual guns, Maria doesn’t have illness, shadow never says damn
@ice_popzz6623
@ice_popzz6623 Күн бұрын
Because when you think about it, in sa2 they killed the biolizard so they probably wouldn’t show that, I think it’s lame like I don’t see why kids can’t handle guns
@Leppa10
@Leppa10 Күн бұрын
Ironically, Eggman says "damn you, autocorrect " in Sonic 3, but doesn't swear even ONCE in Shadow the Hedgehog
@Still.the.best.2021
@Still.the.best.2021 18 сағат бұрын
If we are to consider some actual deaths, it doesn't seem to be censorship, just a way of showing it in a different way, and the weapons not being bullets doesn't make any difference to me, they are still weapons, and they are lethal, especially for those who grew up watching Star wars or something like that showing people dying brutally from weapons like that, and some other things like Maria's disease is more explored after adventure 2, like, okay, I know it's explained in the adventure 2 manuals but still, it's not presented in history, then it could be Although they are following the same line in the films, perhaps we will even see the biolizard in future productions, Even Gerald's execution is not shown in the game, it is only mentioned
@Hedgie3
@Hedgie3 14 сағат бұрын
@ice_popzz6623 Tbh, they didn't totally leave the Biolizard out of Sonic 3. It does appear in that movie but briefly because Paramount referenced that Ultimate Lifeform prototype from SA2 during a flashback scene that shows Shadow and Maria watching TV together and an image of that giant reptile is shown on the screen that those 2 characters are both looking at.
@ice_popzz6623
@ice_popzz6623 13 сағат бұрын
@@Hedgie3 ik but that’s not doing it for me
@arthurpprado
@arthurpprado Күн бұрын
One thing I've found really interesting about this movie is how they adapted Shadow's origin. It would have painted Gerald in a more sympathetic light if Shadow were his brainchild like in the games, but I think his relationship with Shadow being more cold and professional really works out for this movie, as Gerald has no emotional attachment to Shadow and thus, leaves no room for Shadow to reach out to him and try to change his mind. Also, I couldn't help but notice that Shadow fell onto Earth on a mini version of the Black Comet. I know the movies will probably never address his ties to the Black Arms, but it's a neat reference to his alien origins in the games
@jakubgodyn7413
@jakubgodyn7413 Күн бұрын
In this universe, Robotnik was an orphan. He says so in the first movie. And they stick to it in this movie. At the same time, they seem to retcon GUN as the 2nd movie says that it was recently created after the events of the first movie and in this one, it is shown that they were around for over 50 years.
@Leppa10
@Leppa10 16 сағат бұрын
@jakubgodyn7413 it was a bit of a retcon. I saw the Knuckles miniseries. "The Buyer" says that G.U.N. was "called something else when I worked there". Now I'm curious about what it was called 50 years ago.
@jondobbsart
@jondobbsart 2 күн бұрын
This was a thoughtful video, thanks for sharing your perspective. I really dug the movie and I'm thrilled that it seems like a new generation of kids are being introduced to these characters and their themes through the movies.
@jessiebell6884
@jessiebell6884 2 күн бұрын
Well, he did use the gun, it just wasn't an actual gun. It was a totally nonviolent and kid-friendly laser gun that shoots hyper-concentrated bolts of energy that would sear a hole right through a normal person and cook their insides. Completely different.
@keziha5315
@keziha5315 2 күн бұрын
as a girl growing up I didn't like amy but i'm hoping to like her in sonic 4
@ShadwSonic
@ShadwSonic 2 күн бұрын
I _am_ interested in seeing how Amy is treated (she's only ever really had "loves Sonic" as a character trait in the games, minus the games where she just... didn't have any), so it would be nice to see something more fleshed out. But what I'm really interested in is Metal Sonic. Who made him since Eggman is gone? Why is he going after Sonic like this? And most importantly, why are there _dozens_ of him?! That's only ever happened in alternate continuities, and every time it's been a major arc in them!
@Still.the.best.2021
@Still.the.best.2021 18 сағат бұрын
theoretical options: 1 - Eggman created it before participating in Sonic 3 as a form of plan B, in case Eggman is left out for a while and Metal Sonic takes his place, just like IDW comics. 2 - Agent Stone created him 3 - GUN created them using Eggman's plans or not, since in the film GUN's new lead makes it clear that he doesn't like Sonic very much 4 - Another villain from an old Sonic franchise comic or a completely new villain
@liruenth
@liruenth 13 сағат бұрын
5 - Sonic somehow got transported to the future where eggman (who obviously survived) created them to try to replace sonic but they went rogue 😛
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 2 күн бұрын
Its honestly a huge cop out having the gun shoot Star Wars style blaster bolts instead of ACTUAL BULLETS... And they didn't shoot Maria directly either. Why is this movie trying to make the story more "kid friendly" than the actual game? (y'know, the game made for KIDS?). There's always a catch... As great as this movie is, it just feels like they didn't take Shadow's story as seriously as they should have. If kids could handle it back in 2001 they should be able to handle it on the big screen. Children can handle deeper and darker themes than people give them credit for, and I don't understand why our society hasn't figured it out yet. :/ Also, somewhat unrelated, but why did they write out Maria's illness? Any disability representation she once had is gone, and she's just a "normal" girl. It just lessens the emotional impact, and it kinda bothers me.
@obd9660
@obd9660 Күн бұрын
Sonic is actually made for everyone, not just kids. Naoto Ohshima (via the 2018 post mortem gaming panel) and Al Nilsen (via an episode of the Sega Ages podcast) said so.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Күн бұрын
@obd9660 Children/teenagers were the main target demographic for video games and Sonic was clearly going for the "too cool for school" appeal that kids tended to like (ESPECIALLY at the time Sonic Adventure was made)... To say that it isn't aimed towards younger audiences is simply copium (no offense). But either way, you shouldn't need to try and defend it. It can be "made for kids" while still being enjoyed by adults alike... And if we're being honest, any kids product that DOESN'T appeal to adults as well is a failure, and isn't fit for children either (Kids don't deserve brainless slop). Sonic can be enjoyed by EVERYONE, but is still perfectly palatable for younger audiences. It is not made for _adults,_ but it can still be enjoyed by them. That's part of what makes it so great.
@obd9660
@obd9660 Күн бұрын
@@lasercraft32 Excuse me? I never said Sonic was made just for adults, nor did I say it wasn't suitable for kids. I said it was for EVERYONE, which obviously includes both children AND adults. I feel like you either misunderstood at best, or twisted my words at worst. Naoto (who designed Sonic) and Al (Sega's marketing director) have been professionally involved with Sonic since day one. You may argue against the theories and opinions of fans, but you CAN'T argue against statements made by the creators/owners, otherwise you're fighting a battle you'll never win in a million years. I mean surely everything creators say about their creation should be taken as gospel, right? As for the Adventure part, I heard somewhere that Sonic was redesigned in that game to game to appeal to older audiences. Finally, my mother and uncle told me video games in general were designed with adults in mind since day, so hearing in things like PlayStation documentaries that video games were seen as "children's toys" is quite revisionist history for my taste.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Күн бұрын
@obd9660 Like I said... You DON'T need to try and defend it, as if saying its for kids is some horrendous offense... You missed the ENTIRE point. 🙄
@obd9660
@obd9660 Күн бұрын
@@lasercraft32 Serious question: How do you read "Sonic is actually made for everyone, not just kids" and interpret that as me saying "Sonic is for adults, and therefore, unsuitable for kids."? And again, the CREATORS said this, not me. Everyone includes kids and adults, how is that hard to understand? Seriously?
@Persona2-hw3ch
@Persona2-hw3ch 2 күн бұрын
Gerald was pretty good in the movie but I feel like it would be much better if they showed that he was a good person before Maria's death like the games. That he wasn't an over-the-top cartoonishly evil villain, that didn't meant any harm and wanted to help Maria and humanity. I think that's what made him such an impactful character in SA2
@Still.the.best.2021
@Still.the.best.2021 18 сағат бұрын
But don't Gerald's flashbacks and plots already hint at that? Like, after Maria left he stopped being a good person?
@Persona2-hw3ch
@Persona2-hw3ch 12 сағат бұрын
@@Still.the.best.2021 We never see how Gerald was like before Maria's death so the average viewer who doesn't know about the games' context may see him as just an evil guy
@Still.the.best.2021
@Still.the.best.2021 11 сағат бұрын
@Persona2-hw3ch Not considering what he says after "You're not Maria", and also because we're going to finish more of Shadow in the next productions, so there's a lot that can still be explored, in the same way in games where if we just follow the story throughout the gameplay, there will be things that are only explained in the sequences, or in the manuals, which in the film here, would be equivalent to Novels
@cnett486
@cnett486 3 күн бұрын
13:18 Just want to throw it out there, I've been playing the games since I was 9 and I've always been a fan of Amy. I'm super hyped to have her and Metal Sonic. Trust me, lots of male fans love Amy.
@PapzNSwayz
@PapzNSwayz 3 күн бұрын
This is a family movie... second this movie is based on SA2 and Shadow the hedgehog the Game... Why are you tripping that Shadow having a gun. Instead of ranting on youtube to get views. Direct your complaints to the original creator, Sega, and movie devs. The movie is peak and also cannon.
@ravaniphoenix5431
@ravaniphoenix5431 2 күн бұрын
It's not canon.
@howdoknow
@howdoknow Күн бұрын
The movies aren’t canon
@davidmandel8960
@davidmandel8960 3 күн бұрын
The only problem I saw in this movie was: Why in the living hell was a literal CHILD in a MILITARY BASE??? It makes sense in the games’ lore bc it’s in the ARK and its low gravity helps to treat her NIDS, but this military base wasn’t in space and Maria wasn’t sick, and if it’s an orphan situation then she could have lived with her uncle, as in Eggman’s dad, instead of a military base where the government researched living weapons
@misschief8957
@misschief8957 2 күн бұрын
According to a bg soldier, her grandfather takes her anywhere with him-- including his lab in space apparently
@dimitriwarchief301
@dimitriwarchief301 2 күн бұрын
…….. Bring your child to work month?
@davidp5784
@davidp5784 Күн бұрын
For all we know, maybe she was just there on weekends!
@ashleighchance9420
@ashleighchance9420 3 күн бұрын
The fact that Shadow who's voiced by Keanu never says "I'm gonna need a gun" was a waste.
@hopegalaxy
@hopegalaxy 3 күн бұрын
The moment you realize Wade freaking Whipple held a real glock and almost killed Ivo Robotnik in the first movie...
@nabman11
@nabman11 3 күн бұрын
It was as good as a representation of Shadow Paramount could get with an American PG rating. Although if Shadow ever makes a return, I think Paramount will have enough courage to make a PG-13 representation like Sonic 3 was rumoured to be.
@Gangster88232
@Gangster88232 4 күн бұрын
Shadow could be little bit John Wicked because of Keanu Reeves. Therefore he can use guns in the future to some extent.
@oliviaheder6233
@oliviaheder6233 4 күн бұрын
When you’re chilling as the mmc of a 2000s shoujo and you just got together with the love of your life, but the lamp suddenly looks weird…
@oliviaheder6233
@oliviaheder6233 4 күн бұрын
But hey, that’s just a theory-
@coreybookman5823
@coreybookman5823 4 күн бұрын
Are you telling me pretzel lady wasn’t good enough! Jk jk I’m excited for Amy as well
@Mecha_Madness
@Mecha_Madness 5 күн бұрын
He used a Blaster pistol, which is probably better than an actual firearm when it comes to showing weapons to younger children
@Odd-Eyes-s8u
@Odd-Eyes-s8u 5 күн бұрын
you have such a lowly sm ps love the red lipstick
@righteousrawb7225
@righteousrawb7225 5 күн бұрын
Great review
@kamenrideraquarius
@kamenrideraquarius 5 күн бұрын
Pretty sure all those gun soldiers shadow took down died he hit them at super speed in center mass
@tyforestreacts
@tyforestreacts 5 күн бұрын
Honestly, I think what G.U.N. did in the movie was even MORE screwed up than what was in the games. Taken directly from a Tumblr post, but… 1: They make it clear that the military was trying to kill Maria. 2: The change from it being a direct shot to an explosion was probably to keep the rating low, but they WERE pointing guns at that 12yo. 3: Walters said "Those are children" and the soldier responded "We have our orders". They were killing that 12yo whether it was via bullet or boom. 4: Just because the bullet missed doesn’t mean it wasn’t aimed for her and Shadow. It was clear that the military killed Maria. Also, it means that they were knowingly trying to kill TWO children! Which is honestly even worse than in the games when they genuinely thought Shadow was just a biological weapon! In this one, they knew he was just a goofy teenager and they went to kill him anyway.
@EpicKMetalSonic
@EpicKMetalSonic 3 күн бұрын
yeah because murdering every innocent scientist and their ENTIRE families who resided in the ark alongside them isn't darker than them killing ONE child (which they already did in the main canon) you have no idea what you're talking about
@BlurBlizzard
@BlurBlizzard 3 күн бұрын
??? In the games they were ordered to eliminate all personnel on the Space Colony ARK during their raid. They literally had a firing squad recording Gerald's death. After killing a sick girl. They knew about the project shadow before they decided to get rid of any evidence that would trace back to them. Shadow's story is way more impactful because of the irony of his very creation causing the death of his loved ones.
@Ando1428
@Ando1428 2 күн бұрын
​@@BlurBlizzard yet Abe was able to make it to presidency and didn't immediately take revenge on guns responsible personel is criminal.
@Still.the.best.2021
@Still.the.best.2021 Күн бұрын
The movie's kind of continues to be a bit heavier, especially considering that Maria was charred in this movie.
@EpicKMetalSonic
@EpicKMetalSonic Күн бұрын
@@Still.the.best.2021 no it doesn’t. You’re in denial. Gerald’s madness in Sonic Adventure 2 alone is darker than anything the movie will ever throw at you. That and, do you know how explosions work? Her death was instantaneous. It’s a kid friendly movie, for god’s sake. Of course they wouldn’t show her burning to death. You’re stretching things to try and pretend the movie is darker when it isn’t.
@furrycheetah
@furrycheetah 5 күн бұрын
Even they censor it but we are still seeing it in reality
@Clambamthankyoumam
@Clambamthankyoumam 5 күн бұрын
Shadow had a gun during the video game series since his debut in 2001 since the Dreamcast released Sonic Adventure 2 however in the movie, he used it to shoot at Sonic if only for a few moments just to throw it away shortly after all within about five seconds of the chase scene between Sonic and Shadow. Sonic 3 is peak video game cinema and hands down the best of the trilogy! #Sonic3 #GottaGoFast #LiveAndLearn #TheFastestThingAlive #TheNeedForSpeed 🥚🦔💙🧡❤️🖤
@devlinmcguire7543
@devlinmcguire7543 6 күн бұрын
Imagine if Toby Fox permitted an Undertale movie. Considering he cares so much about his story, I thinknhe wouldn't compromise on the lore and would have a ton of involvement in everything. That's the main reason I think an Undertale movie would be actual PEAK even compared to all other movies, animated, video game based, or conventional. Not because the IP is any better than others, but because I know it was stay true to the story telling vision of the creator. The truth about all movies....... is the ONLY real metric that determines how good a movie is, is integrity. Literally nothing else is as important. Not visuals, acting, budget, sound, advertising, VFX.... none of those things can make a movie good all by themselves without other "legs" to prop up the table, sort of speak. But integrity can. Whether it's integrity to the plot, writing the characters well, being true to the lore, tasteful choices, or none of those. Maybe it's basically a whole different story from the games, as lot as the story and execution of it is GOOD, then people will love it. I really do think that integrity, is the single most important thing to get people to love a movie.
@devlinmcguire7543
@devlinmcguire7543 6 күн бұрын
Three things I really didn't like was... #1 the scene where the humans broke into a high security military base with _power_ of "angry fat black woman is angry and hungry". Really didn't like that and wish they would have had them like subdue someone and steal their cloaths or face or something. #2 I HATED the Robotnik vs. Eggman fight being so goofy. They're the villains of the story, they absolutely should have had more menace or seriousness at least in their fight scene. But instead we just got another slapstick gag skit with "jim carrie" rather than the characters. Very disappointing approach. No.. actually, just very disappointing in general. Especially after the strong words that came right before like "You're no Maria...." And when Eggman thought he was about to be sucked out into the vacuum of space he just cracked a joke. #3 Another thing is, I almost felt uncomfortable with how close Jim Carrie was with.... uh... himself. It was a bit off-putting. Not a huge deal, but still. It detracted from the movie.
@Still.the.best.2021
@Still.the.best.2021 17 сағат бұрын
This would kind of lose the essence of what they really are, both in games, comics, animations, series, and now movies, unless you want them to become the Eggmen from classic cartoons and comics where they are absurdly serious and intimidating, which isn't bad, but I don't think it fits with them here at all, and I even believe that in games it would be the same thing, like the discussion between the classic Eggman and the modern Eggman in Sonic Generations
@Attaxalotl
@Attaxalotl 6 күн бұрын
Shadow did use a gun! During the bike chase, he fires a few blasts from that pulse pistol at Sonic before it's knocked out of his hand.
@Boomblox5896
@Boomblox5896 6 күн бұрын
In terms of censorship, I think it did a fine job of balancing the need to stay loyal to the original material and adjusting to a movie audience and more importantly, a brand-new children's audience. The usage of "guns" in the movie was fine, albeit not so realistic since they're energy guns and not bullet-firing guns. The story surrounding Maria was fine, and I'm impressed at how they were able to re-write the backstory to fit this universe perfectly. Honestly, looking back on the decision to leave Rouge out of this one, it was probably a good call. Not only was she optional to the plot, but she was also a major "distraction" to the young boys who grew up seeing her in the original game. We need to bring in Amy and Cream before we decide to bring Rouge along, if they ever do. Amy and Cream would at least set the positive example forward first before we dig into the morally-grey design and personality of Rouge. And before you pitchfork me about morally-grey Shadow, yes I know he's a bit of a villain/antihero, but he has a sympathetic backstory. Rouge does not.
@Trone2
@Trone2 6 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry but i need to critique your video. Please turn down the volume of music you used, I really like the points you gave and the perspective you had for the film but I don't want rock music to cover your voice to hide your thoughts about the film. also, my left headphone is louder than my right, so either the Microphone was setup wrong or misplaced while speaking. If your using Audacity you can easily fix it. (unless you've only got 1 earbud) Otherwise it's a good video, and i hope you're able to have fun making videos about the things you like. Keep being awesome!
@AutumnJDiaz
@AutumnJDiaz 6 күн бұрын
Sorry I made this in a weekend and didn’t have my microphone. Thanks for your comment!
@roux6715
@roux6715 3 күн бұрын
nah the music is at a good volume imo you can bear everything clearly
@Hedgie3
@Hedgie3 13 сағат бұрын
The only voice blocking problem that I've had while watching this video is when that "Escape From The City" remix was playing because since that wasn't an instrumental version like all the other Sonic songs that were used as interesting background music in this video are, the lyrics that played made it hard for me try to hear what this KZbinr was saying at that part.
@zuwenakelley2079
@zuwenakelley2079 6 күн бұрын
I understand why the Sonic movies are seen as good. The 3rd movie did handle the characters better than many Sonic games, and you nailed pretty much all the places where this movie rocked on the head. However, I have to point out one of the flaws that all of the movies had. They don't balance all the characters well. What I mean is that they show all the emotional parts of the characters but none of the other parts. We've barely seen Sonic make a snarky joke or Knuckles' gentle side. Thankfully these are the only two characters that really suffer from it. As you said, Robotnik has been shown as comic relief, a formidable villain, and an emotional person. And they're also good at showing that even though Tails gets scared sometimes, he can still be a very confident person. But I feel like they haven't fully done Sonic and Knuckles justice. In the 90s, Sonic was a character that usually tried to hide his pain with optimism and his fear with anger. But that's all gone in the Sonic movies. Sonic's characterization in the movies has its moments, but am I the only one who thinks its very compelling when a character's hidden doubts and emotions are unearthed as they realize the truth? And because they don't show Knuckles' gentle side, I feel like it makes Sonic and Knuckles' relationship not as cool. I'm not sure if this is a clear way of saying it, but Sonic is Knuckles' friend, but Knuckles isn't Sonic's friend. We don't really see Knuckles picking Sonic up when he's down. In older Sonic media, they consistently show the gentle side of Knuckles by having him reach out his hand to people. In SA2, he grabs Rouge's hand to save her from falling, and in Sonic Origins, if I'm not mistaken, Knuckles offers his hand when Sonic has fallen on the ground. It would be so cool to see Knuckles do something like this in a Sonic movie! Hopefully in the 4th movie 🥺
@bloomins8088
@bloomins8088 6 күн бұрын
Awesome comment. I can definitely see where you are coming from on the characterization. At least for Knuckles, I did get a little bit of the "softer" feeling of him when he backed down and cooled off during their argument. It's not much, very subtle, but i saw a nice maturity and trust there. It's definitely not much, though.
@zuwenakelley2079
@zuwenakelley2079 5 күн бұрын
@bloomins8088 I agree that part was my favorite part of Sonic 3.
@pizzatime3752
@pizzatime3752 3 күн бұрын
I personally saw the “hiding fear with anger” and “hiding pain with optimism” parts of Sonic in the movie- only reversed. At his most painful, he became incredibly angry, enough to go get the Master Emerald, which in this universe, is a HUGE deal. As for his optimism, he sure has a lot of it during scary, end-of-the-world fights. Also, while he wasn’t quipping every 2 seconds, there were still plenty of stuff, like calling Shadow “hot topic” and commenting on his highlights, as well as messing with Eggman (only seen the movie once so I don’t remember everything!). I thought it was fairly well-done for being the type of movie it was.
@zuwenakelley2079
@zuwenakelley2079 3 күн бұрын
@pizzatime3752 Well, it was well done, considering the first Sonic movie came out at a time when Sonic's character was at its crappiest in the games. I appreciate that they made him a good character, even though he isn't exactly accurate to older Sonic media.
@HomieN09
@HomieN09 6 күн бұрын
Bruh
@Fizzsama
@Fizzsama 6 күн бұрын
This is a phenomenal video, and I commend you for taking the time to dive into this topic with such gravitas. Instant sub!
@AutumnJDiaz
@AutumnJDiaz 6 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! I’m an English major, it’s what I do. I’m really happy you enjoy it!
@Coolio_Ash
@Coolio_Ash 6 күн бұрын
Shadows film backstory really takes away a lot of his themes with identity imo. He didnt need to be an alien, he was created by gerald and him being a creation to be the ultimate life form... Its a part of his identity struggle in the games. Also... Nothing about shadows promise to maria. That was a big disappointment. It just felt weird that they changed some of this stuff.
@Coolio_Ash
@Coolio_Ash 6 күн бұрын
It gives me vibes of "the producers thought kids are dumb"
@Coolio_Ash
@Coolio_Ash 6 күн бұрын
This part is just a nitpick for me: sonic said the "talk about cheap flights" line and you DONT GET TO SAY THAT UNLESS YOURE GONNA RIP A PANEL OFF OF THE HELICOPTER AND SKATE THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO
@beck_gaming1243
@beck_gaming1243 6 күн бұрын
Okay but Shadow is also an alien in the games
@eeveefan132
@eeveefan132 5 күн бұрын
Shadow is canonically an alien in the games. He was made with alien DNA.
@PauloH100
@PauloH100 4 күн бұрын
​@@beck_gaming1243He only has Alien DNA, but he didn't come from space to Earth. He was created by people, that's the whole point.
@Ryker.RevixVT
@Ryker.RevixVT 6 күн бұрын
He did use the gun during the chase tho? Sonic just kicks it out of his hand
@DriverNeku
@DriverNeku 6 күн бұрын
I watched Sonic 3 and I swear I've saw nothing but Sonic on my recommended for the past day or two, Sonic so peak... I'm familiar with how Maria did die, but I don't think they would've gotten away with showing a child getting turned into a honey comb on screen 💀
@susciety6832
@susciety6832 6 күн бұрын
i think the climax would have been 10x better if the fight between gerald and eggman was taken more seriously. as it is, the movie undermines the best scene with eggman getting spanked by a giant robot hand. imagine if gerald made an announcement to the world, similar to his last words in sa2. Also, it would have strengthened the idea that gerald is manipulating eggman by being goofy for most of the movie
@duduvec5971
@duduvec5971 3 күн бұрын
I think that it was 10x better because gerald and eggman were that goofy specially since they are family and extremely egocentric. They are not fighters, they are creators so it only makes sense that they fight via creating cursed things to fight (they could realistically just nuked each other and end it with one interaction but they are not that dumb).
@hopegalaxy
@hopegalaxy 3 күн бұрын
Wow, what a missed opportunity.
@dimitriwarchief301
@dimitriwarchief301 2 күн бұрын
That’s true
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 2 күн бұрын
It bothered me how the moon getting cut in half was turned into a literal joke. Seriously, why does nobody mention that? I thought the moon getting zapped was supposed to be a big deal, but not a single character acknowledges it afterwards and they don't follow up on it!
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 2 күн бұрын
@@duduvec5971 I would not describe Jim Carrey's goofy antics to improve the movie in any way shape or form, let alone "10x better." :/
@lemonyanva1976
@lemonyanva1976 6 күн бұрын
He did use the gun tho, he just missed
@jonathanhargraves2241
@jonathanhargraves2241 6 күн бұрын
Having him at least try to shoot Maria and missing is a great change, keeps things PG and we still got to her death. Only thing that's weird is how a 60 year old man survived that big of an explosion, but I don't mind it too much
@SHADOWEMPERORB127
@SHADOWEMPERORB127 3 күн бұрын
@@jonathanhargraves2241 why would Shadow want to kill Maria? He literally tries to blow up the world because she died.
@jonathanhargraves2241
@jonathanhargraves2241 3 күн бұрын
@@SHADOWEMPERORB127 Not Shadow, the GUN soldier tried to shoot Maria.
@SHADOWEMPERORB127
@SHADOWEMPERORB127 3 күн бұрын
@@jonathanhargraves2241 the original comment was about Shadow’s gun
@jonathanhargraves2241
@jonathanhargraves2241 3 күн бұрын
@@SHADOWEMPERORB127 My bad
@LarryHayward-v7p
@LarryHayward-v7p 6 күн бұрын
SONIC 3 IS SO PEAK CINEMA FOR EVERYONE💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
@joshrobins130
@joshrobins130 6 күн бұрын
If I was a betting man (and I am, it's a serious problem), my guess is that they might start dabbling with some of the other threats from Sonic since Robotnik got his send-off. The Black Arms seem like a good choice to bring in as the next possibly overarching threat after Metal Sonic along with Black Doom. Chaos seems more like something to save for kinda the tail end given his nature.
@Dankboi68
@Dankboi68 6 күн бұрын
GIVE IT UP FOR MY BOY STONE [Insert Agent Stone fan cam]
@stoopidguy4544
@stoopidguy4544 6 күн бұрын
I was honestly expecting the credits scene to be related to the Black Arms, since it would make sense if they want to bring back Shadow and also show how he's progressed since the end of the 3rd movie, though I guess it would make it a Shadow focused movie right after the other
@riahlexington
@riahlexington 5 күн бұрын
I want to see Mephiles
@zakariaradoine625
@zakariaradoine625 5 күн бұрын
I read that in Mr satan's voice
@notthecityhq7699
@notthecityhq7699 7 күн бұрын
I love SA2, but I really didn’t mind the changes to Shadow’s lore, in fact I think it worked for a Hollywood adaptation.
@Boomblox5896
@Boomblox5896 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, I agree. They somehow managed to thread that needle between staying true to the original and making adjustments for a new Hollywood universe. Somehow it works, and I like the way that it does.
@THEonlyAEON
@THEonlyAEON 5 күн бұрын
I don't mind the changes, and they could still make Maria a sick child and have Shadow being researched for a cure, the only difference being that he was found and not created. The fact also that he was found inside a comet makes me think that he was sent there by the black arms, ala how saiyans in dbz are sent to planets to conquer them except in a comet and not a pod ship.
@Boomblox5896
@Boomblox5896 5 күн бұрын
@THEonlyAEON Yeah! The first thing I thought about when seeing that "meteor" was that it looked like the Black Comet!
@FoxMoon89
@FoxMoon89 13 сағат бұрын
Part of why the Sonic CU works so well is the team's superb job of balancing nostalgia and new ideas. They put enough care in what stayed the same and what changed to successfully achieve a middle ground between respecting the source material and adding their own spin, which is something most adaptations (and origin story film) don't even get close at imo. Most deviate so much it's either bad, cliché-ridden fanfiction or In-Name-Only cash grabs with some Easter eggs or lazy gags thrown in for "nostalgia." Heck, I'd argue this also applies to most Disney sequels and third-party-made sequels to Don Bluth films too.