I am so badly uncoordinated even the first steps are so hard, I have been practicing every day for hours and I still cant get the hip rotation and brace correct.
@micahcavender60732 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic series. Thank you so much.
@jonathanrumley62182 ай бұрын
Great form break down brotha - great form Joe! Haha Go Team Fly Green!
@videosverigenu46212 ай бұрын
Hmm.. would this work with keeping the disc at the pec all the time then rip it, rather than reaching back and guiding it in first?
@kevinkevinholt3 ай бұрын
I already have since discovering it recently, but I have a feeling I'm going to return to this video a LOT over the years
@ChrisSolarski3 ай бұрын
That's exactly the issue I've been struggling, yanking the disc from the very back and missing the power pocket. Thank you!
@luken43894 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to get my leg to look like the pros with the bent in action forever and never understood how they were doing it. This is the key!!!
@Ryan-gx2vf6 ай бұрын
omg I'm so glad I found this because this 100% me and never realized it. People would tell me "you're letting your shoulder collapse" but I did not know what that meant or how to fix it. Thanks so much for this and now to fix it!
@samhowl11526 ай бұрын
Hope you're doing well loop. Miss your videos
@loopghost6 ай бұрын
Thanks Sam, I am doing well. Still in the gym and playing disc golf when I can swing it.
@samhowl11526 ай бұрын
@@loopghost glad to hear it. Let me ask you a question because there's not too many people knowledgeable enough on form to answer it. I'm only throwing about 350. My lead foot's shoe on the bottom of the sole, under the heel, keeps having the tread go flat and then poke a hole right in the center of the bottom of my heel. I'm going through shoes every 3 months. Any idea what kind of form mistake would cause such wear?
@nordicdiscgolferatrumble94306 ай бұрын
So basicly the pros are guiding it to the pocket super fast, making it look like theyre rippin it already, to the untrained eye?
@loopghost6 ай бұрын
i.imgur.com/oCsZ8Mw.jpeg Check that image... see how the disc doesn't accelerate until it's ejecting?
@nordicdiscgolferatrumble94306 ай бұрын
@@loopghost when the white lines start to be futher apart the rip is happening? (or maybe rather a push than a rip?)
@samhowl11528 ай бұрын
You know, i was thinking about your old name, heavy disc. It reminded me of how you used to talk about the disc feeling heavy. Do you have any videos talking about how to feel the disc getting heavy?
@LOL_MANN10 ай бұрын
Juice is keeping you big as hell!
@loopghost10 ай бұрын
Hard to believe how much bigger I’m am now. No steroids though, just a low dose of test, 200mg every 3 weeks. Gym 4-5 times per week. Creatine and whey. Chicken and oatmeal. Sometimes I get bored and eat oatmeal and chicken.
@sruhkamp10 ай бұрын
Great explanation! Thanks
@sarinhighwind10 ай бұрын
Important things in life.
@ericjepson376511 ай бұрын
Your knee has rubber bands in it.
@thompson222 Жыл бұрын
Mindblowing.
@RBadding Жыл бұрын
I was just struggling with feeling the momentum/weight when bracing and then the algorithm gave me this - thanks!
@k_terwilleger13 Жыл бұрын
My big issue is that I tend to lean over my brace. Any thoughts on how to fix that?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
It's tought to know what's happening without seeing it - but common issues are that you're planting too open or you're leaning too far back in the backswing.
@JazzInATinCan Жыл бұрын
The first two videos in this series is what got me from 300ft to 400ft and to a tremendously better understanding of form, momentum shift and throwing mechanincs. Thank you so much. I've stayed with the first 2 vids for like 3 months time to move on
@thompson222 Жыл бұрын
I just got mindblown. 🤯 Good stuff
@derrickpreston2302 Жыл бұрын
Grate advice! Thanks
@michaelleake353 Жыл бұрын
With all the technique videos out there now THIS IS THE BEST explanation I’ve ever seen. I’ve watched many of your videos over the past few years. This is repeatable. As an amateur, I especially like your thoughts on just throwing a standstill or shortening my x step to fit my stride length and flexibility. Thank you for your years of effort and the outstanding content over the years.
@thomaswinzy Жыл бұрын
GG is like a trebuchet creating a counterweight stall with his shoulders and a sling stall with his arm. the most effective trebuchets time the sling stall and counterweight stall together to throw further. unlike other pros like AB and pre injury Lizotte who rubber band and whips it, or like Paige Pierce, Heimburg, and maybe new Simon who focuses more on creating a strong centrifugal force the disc gets trapped in (classic wide to close to spin faster figure skater meme but actually literally and coiled up to the shoulder), increasing it by throwing their weight around instead of down like GG or forward like seppu paju. but its all a spectrum and you can mix the styles up like putting
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
great insights!
@Theipknightly Жыл бұрын
Hi Loop, do you still recommend this far of an elbow extension? I'm having a tough time getting through this spot in my game. I should be absolutely crushing my shots with my leverage (7ft tall) but I can't seem to break 350-375' (Beat wraith or tern on flat release) consistently without throwing a distance anny or flex. Like 315-340 with a teebird or river. When my arm is too loose pocket collapse and I only get 300~ maybe. I can't seem to get my mids over 300 consistently. Trying to throw with more velocity results in turn and burn. My best shot ever was a 410' laser beam 8' off the ground and I have no idea how I did it because I barely threw the disc but it just flew like crazy. I feel that I can generate the power and have good leg mechanics as I have played hockey left handed my whole life and throw right as all of the above shot distances are not trying to throw hard. I can turn and burn neutral 9-10 speeds into the ground when I try to throw with more velocity. I feel that the spin is lacking here (Not OAT as the discs don't flutter out of the hand). I feel I'm just missing a key step and not using my arm properly. Looking at videos of myself I am not getting the elbow forward and getting into that deep pocket position. My arm starts the extension mid chest at best. I think this deep pocket is where I need to get to so that I can put enough spin on the discs to get them to glide further and stay straighter. Compressing that acceleration into a smaller space towards the hit should allow for more spin with the speed. Any advice to try and get this elbow far forward? Go slow and feel it out? Do you think trying to "lock" your upper arm almost into a more open position >90 Upper arm to torso and just leave the lower half of the arm loose? maybe trying to push that elbow out further would be the ticket?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, everyone is going to have the “feels” different, but for me… the “feels” is having my head/eyes looking perpendicular to my line when I’m guiding the disc through center chest, WHILE maintaining my hand in the outside of the disc. It feels to me like a very sideways movement (lateral slide), and I have to avoid the desire to start speeding the hand up as I pull the disc forward.
@queenmari89 Жыл бұрын
Trying so hard to understand this. Focusing on the power pocket just makes me strong arm it and the top of my right bicep feels very strained. When I dont focus on it, I play pain free, even though I start the acceleration way early
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I’ve had much better luck in the intervening years teaching as I shared in the form 101 series on my channel. Drills are designed to help players FEEL something and not everyone has the same response.
@Elitiest_Hitman Жыл бұрын
Anyone that throws their left arm like that, at that specific timing certainly watched videos on the mechanics of form. That movement is wholly unnatural and has to be learned.
@BrittJRosen Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, excellent description
@austinbolton1047 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, seriously thank you thank you for this! I’m 36 and new to the sport and my throwing shoulder was quickly, and not so subtly, letting me know that I must be doing something wrong and that there might be an actual method to this madness. I love the analytical breakdown and your practical guide. Thank you!
@Xav3rageJoeX Жыл бұрын
Still come back to this video from time to time. Thanks for helping pioneer disc golf form in a time that not much info was available on it.
@citizenzombie Жыл бұрын
Hi Loopghost. I know this is and old video but do you recall what size Klean Canteen you were using here?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I haven’t the foggiest idea!
@citizenzombie Жыл бұрын
@@loopghost No problem. Thank you for your reply and for all the hard work you've done / you do for our sport.
@Yankees177 Жыл бұрын
So this plagues me and zaps all my power - its not in the reach back but in the turn and I cant stop it. How do your legs play a part in this because i surmise my last step is too wide as well.
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
Think of your stride as a SIDEWAYS or lateral move. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpSUcoN4Z7Zloa8 -- when you're collapsing, it's usually because you're focused on spinning/turning the shoulders.
@Yankees177 Жыл бұрын
@@loopghost i meant that it is too wide in that its a very long last stride. i walk up, i dont run and im 6' tall and my last stride is far longer than just past shoulder length.
@JazzInATinCan Жыл бұрын
I think I just found my holy grail of youtube content.
@rossthomas271 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome!!! Do you make these videos anymore??
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
I've taken a break from making videos for discgolf. They take quite a bit of time and energy and I've been working on body building and that takes most of my free time.
@donnavon68 Жыл бұрын
@loopghost more disc golf instruction please!!! You’re one of the best!
@Yankees177 Жыл бұрын
Hey there so going back to your older videos, how do you feel about these or the right pec drills. Are you still thinking these are all valid with what you know now?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
I think that the right pec drill is probably fine, but only if you're really struggling with opening the shoulders too early. I teach more about making a lateral move that de-weights the back foot. I find that throwing from any static position makes people compensate by doing bad things. Lots of stuff in this video is still valid though, especially throwing nose down and verifying that you're not blowing off the disc early.
@Yankees177 Жыл бұрын
@@loopghost judging by some slow mo videos ive seen i move my shoulders too soon so these have helped. but i feel like no one teaches these anymore so was wondering your thoughts.
@samhowl1152 Жыл бұрын
Yo David goggins is a different beast. We all fall short compared to him. He's shit himself running a marathon on shin splints. If you didn't listen to the audiobook you should. There's a lot more content as he kind of hosts a podcast with his ghost writer between chapters.
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
I’m down for the audiobook and I’m gonna try to get the new book too. He’s motivated me something fierce.
@samhowl1152 Жыл бұрын
@@loopghost it's definitely inspiring. I worry for his long term health, but I too have felt very motivated by his attitude and message. I didn't know he had a new book out. I'll check it out. Are you still throwing discs?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
@@samhowl1152 threw 18 right before this crazy attempt. My motivation is coming back for disc, just needed a new learning curve!
@samhowl1152 Жыл бұрын
@@loopghost what did you score for curiosity sake?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
@@samhowl1152 think it was -5 or-6, not my best round, but drives and putts were good. Touch shots were rusty. I can shoot -8 to -10 at this course.
@samhowl1152 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see new content. Nice glasses
@dr05guitar Жыл бұрын
Good effort man, all we can do is try and get better right? Nice work!
@Postermaestro Жыл бұрын
Those are some sick glasses.
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
Thanks they’re from zenni optical. Super cheap.
@DP-yu4rr Жыл бұрын
You throw farther now?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
I've been laying off disc for the last year, and really hitting the gym hard. When I do throw, my timing has been hit and miss. I think that when I do get back into regular playing, I'm going to have to get used to being more slow-twitch and bigger.
@southsidesavy2751 Жыл бұрын
💡 moment!! Love this!!!
@timeandspacevintage3380 Жыл бұрын
Im not sure if its just the angle playing tricks, but isn't your brace behind your back foot in this? I was under the impression the brace is always supposed to be staggered forward not back, I know you are a keeper of the ancient wisdoms in DG so thats why im asking!
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
It is the angle playing tricks. You do want the stagger as you describe - though with a ball-golf "move" you do keep your feet less staggered than in a disc-golf move.
@123juantwothree123 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@samhowl1152 Жыл бұрын
Update?
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
I should do a follow up video… still grinding and learning. I’ve recruited a couple new workout partners - including disc golf friends. 1st year newbie gains came easy. 2nd year gains as a 47 year old are slower, but I’m studying up on proper nutrition, rest, cardio training (swimming) and trying not to eat cookies for breakfast and lunch. 😀
@samhowl1152 Жыл бұрын
@@loopghost I know steroids get a bad rap cause professional bodybuilders abuse them, but studies have shown in moderate doses that they are safe, effective, and muscle can be retained after stopping. You could have a whole nother year of newbie gains. Talk to the juice head at your local gym.
@loopghost Жыл бұрын
@@samhowl1152 I’ve never done anything beyond creatine and whey, but I’ll have my test levels checked on my next doctor visit. TRT is something I’d consider as my levels drop.
@samhowl1152 Жыл бұрын
@@loopghost testosterone and steroids are two different things. You might get a boost from trt if you're low, but there's studies comparing people that lift and take steroids at reasonable levels versus people taking steroids and just sitting on the couch. The people taking steroids and doing nothing else but sitting on the couch, still gained 40 percent of the muscle of people lifting and using steroids. There's guys that get jacked on steroids, drop the dose until they aren't taking them anymore, and still maintain the size. Should def make an update video, and I'd love to hear any new or changed thoughts you had on backhand form!
@meister-t Жыл бұрын
cold atmosphere will contract the flight plate and alter the flight. air is also more dense. I wouldn't bother doing a review in temperatures so cold that you need to dress warm, as it's not indicative of how it will fly when most are playing.
@discgolfamateur2175 Жыл бұрын
What I think, doing the x-step as a beginner is doing more harm than good. I have started to believe that the purpose of the x-step is only getting the body into a "spring" and then the weight sift and right foot plant is only there for "triggering the spring" to unleash like a bat out of hell. However what I have noted, is that when doing the x-step walk, it seem to be harder to get my body into a loaded spring position than if I just do as you did on the video; rock momentum back and for in stand still and then just a short step forward with my right foot and boom! So, I think, that one must master this stand still momentum back and forth -shift BEFORE implementing the x-step. Anyone else having the same thoughts or am I just totally in the woods? Thanks again for the great content!
@HaikesXO Жыл бұрын
2:09 should you not pivot your foot? That looks very stressful on the knee
@JimBob_manalive2 жыл бұрын
What song is playing in this video?
@loopghost2 жыл бұрын
thanks for asking... that's ME, I make songs from time to time.
@JimBob_manalive2 жыл бұрын
@@loopghost That's awesome! I searched all over the net trying to figure out what song it is. Do you have the full track available anywhere? Bandcamp or ?
@loopghost2 жыл бұрын
@@JimBob_manalive I’ll see if I can find it and I upload