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@trevorvalentine7721 4 ай бұрын
To make things easier for those looking for the tools list: For install without the hitch ball preinstalled: * e2 Owner's Manual * torque wrench - 250 ft-lb capable * torque wrench - 430 ft-lb capable * ratchet wrench * 1 1/8" wrench or socket * 1 1/16" socket * (2) 3/4" wrenches or sockets * 15/16" wrench or socket * measuring tape * pencil * 1 7/8" thin walled socket * 1 3/4" wrench
@cadjoe8247 5 ай бұрын
4005 - 3925 = 80 not 75. Same on Rear - 3650 - 2795 = 855 not 845 as your summary shows. The e2 distribution shows load being shifted to trailer axles, but only shows total load. I would have liked to see two scales on each trailer axle - to show that you are overloading the front trailer axle when not level, and with the e2 you are level and distributing the load equally back onto both trailer axles. Do this again to show if the e2 is distributing the trailer axles as well.
@FastwayTrailer 5 ай бұрын
We've been wanting to redo this test for awhile now, as you pointed out some of the math is inconsistent. Thank you for your suggestions!
@jerrytalley802 6 ай бұрын
I would love it if you would have done one more test, after equalizer hitch, put a little air in, see what happens
@FastwayTrailer 5 ай бұрын
Great idea! Thank you for suggesting it!
@jerrytalley802 6 ай бұрын
I have the top of the line equalizer hitch and it works well when I’m on a nice smooth road, but when it’s rough, the road cause’s bounce and just gets a little squirrelly. I plan to get the lift bags to give it a little more support. It seems on 1/2 ton trucks, it’s just necessary to add some support?
@FastwayTrailer 5 ай бұрын
Airbags can help with those bumpy roads!
@chrisharris6492 6 ай бұрын
Be sure to take into account how much stretch those cables have before they will disengage the plunger. The coil tension will not provide any ability to achieve that unless the cable is nearly straight. So stretched length adjustment is critical! 😊. I have seen many that will not provide any braking unless the complete hitch fails and drops off the tow vehicle.
@FastwayTrailer 5 ай бұрын
Great points! Thanks for sharing!
@user-tr6sw3zn6u 6 ай бұрын
Hi, can you confirm the overall combined weight increases when using the WDH compared to using no other devices for levelling vehicle??
@FastwayTrailer 5 ай бұрын
When looking at the overall combined weight for the “coupled”, “leveled with airbags”, and “weight distribution” setups - the resulting totals were 11,695, 11,715, and 11,720 lbs. The difference in these numbers is attributed to the precision and accuracy of the wheel scales that we used and is within 0.2%. Being within 0.2% when the precision/accuracy errors of 8 different scales are added together is quite good - especially for our purposes in this demonstration of general principles. Admittedly however, there are some typos and a mistake in the numbers shown which do account for some discrepancies. One of the mistakes is with the baseline trailer axles number which then carries through in the math throughout the video. With the trailer uncoupled we used an additional scale under the jack when measuring the tongue and axle weights. There is a conversion that then needs to be done to get the exact weight at the hitch ball coupler location. We used the converted (actual) tongue weight of 1000 lbs. in the video but forgot to use the converted axle weight. So, the uncoupled or baseline trailer axle number given is 70 lbs. less than the actual. Also, we didn’t add the weight of the spring bars (35 lbs.) to the uncoupled total. With these two corrections the “uncoupled” combined weight should have been 11,690, only 5 pounds different from the “coupled” combined total. The additional discrepancy is due to the precision and inaccuracy of that tongue weight scale that we used. At minute 12:17 in the video - the correct increases to the trailer axles should be 295 lbs. for weight distribution (instead of 365) and 55 lbs. for the airbags (instead of 125). For the airbags, that trailer axle difference should theoretically be zero when leveled. The reason it’s not is due to the trailer not being at the exact same level/angle and the scale precision/accuracy. As the trailer tips down in front then the front axle of the trailer will take a slight bit more load from the tongue weight. In the weight distribution example, some of that weight difference would also be from the trailer angle and scales then also some from spring bar weight. The majority (~250 lbs.) is from the forces of the bars on the trailer for weight distribution. In spite of some unfortunate presentation mistakes in the video, those errors only affect the magnitude of the effects which will be different for each towing setup anyway. The general principles remain the same - 1) Even though airbags are good for vehicle leveling and ride comfort, they do not distribute weight off the rear axle back to the front axle nor achieve all the towing benefits that come with weight distribution and its inherent sway control 2) Weight distribution increases front axle weight for improved steering and handling and also alleviates the weight and stress on the rear axle of the tow vehicle 3) Because weight distribution also levels the vehicles, airbags usually are not necessary when using a weight distributing hitch. Final note, airbags or auto-leveling can be used with weight distribution to improve ride comfort if desired or if auto-leveling cannot be disabled on the vehicle. Keep in mind that increasing airbag pressure or auto-leveling after setting the hitch will decrease weight distribution. Measure the amount of weight distribution after leveling the vehicle and adjust the hitch as needed to maintain the appropriate amount of weight distribution. Refer to the following video for more tips on adjusting your hitch when using airbags or auto-leveling in conjunction with weight distribution - kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5uVoKR3ntGnqc0.
@miccap8612 5 ай бұрын
@FastwayTrailer yes, i have found the same, thx
@gottheflick 6 ай бұрын
Where did you get a size XXXL pink bunny costume? Awesome!
@FastwayTrailer 6 ай бұрын
Haha don't even remember XD
@RVVideoLibrary 6 ай бұрын
Wow- Very professional video! well done!
@FastwayTrailer 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Bdj2012 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the research and video! Leaves me curious, weight distribution hitch seems to be the way to go. Does that affect the 60/40 rule though?
@FastwayTrailer 5 ай бұрын
The 60/40 rule is an approximation method to get a trailer loaded in the ballpark of what it should be. But it isn’t super reliable either. Whether 60% of your load is far in front of the axles or just in front of the axles could make a big difference to the tongue weight. The real goal is a tongue weight of 10-15% of the total trailer weight for bumper pull trailers. This target is the same with or without weight distribution. The best way to ensure you have 10-15% tongue weight is to actually weigh it. This can easily be done with our Fastway Flash Scale hitch or the Fastway Simple Weigh scale.
@Bdj2012 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@contractor9391 7 ай бұрын
Great video!
@FastwayTrailer 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@IamMugs 7 ай бұрын
Angle set bolt needs to be tightened on my E2 every 200 miles or so. Always so comforting
@FastwayTrailer 7 ай бұрын
It's always smart to check the bolts on any hitch, after all tows!
@MajTom-wd2yt 7 ай бұрын
Airbags do not have any leverage and cannot replace the weight taken off the TV steering axle when pulling a trailer. A PPP WD hitch, (Hensley or ProPride) moves the fulcrum point from the ball to the TV rear axle, 37 years of using the Hensley Arrow absolutely no trailer sway ever, with a level fully loaded for camping rig. i.imgur.com/9aECWOt.jpg YMMV
@_The_Rake 7 ай бұрын
Helpful video. Having a downloadable PDF of the measurement table would be really useful to add to this video.
@FastwayTrailer 7 ай бұрын
That would be a great idea! You can reach out to our customer service team at [email protected] or call them at 877-523-9103 and they can give that to you!
@mikealdridge8255 8 ай бұрын
How is this product even certified! Chains that are too long and dragging would be extremely dangerous and tethering them up in the "chain up " or twist ties or rope or any other way is extremely dangerous. if the trailer were to disconnect it simply would tear such adjustments apart and the tongue of the trailer would end up in the asphalt or !! ...chains are supposed to be just the right length and criss crossed in order to support the tongue OFF the ground in the event of a disconnect !
@FastwayTrailer 7 ай бұрын
We agree the Chain-up would not hold (and is not intended to hold) the trailer in the event of detachment. The great benefit of the Chain-up is to help prevent the chains from touching the ground when the trailer is properly connected and driving down the road. There are moments while driving when bumps or driveways can cause even correctly sized chains to touch the ground. Even these quick moments of contact can eventually wear and weaken the chain and create dangerous sparks. The Chain-up is a safety device for driving with the trailer connected. In the event of detachment, the Chain-up will not interfere with the function of the safety chains - to prevent complete separation of the trailer from the tow vehicle.
@mikez4759 8 ай бұрын
What is the brand and type of grease you are using in this video?
@FastwayTrailer 7 ай бұрын
Here's the link! www.equalizerhitch.com/store/hitch-accessories/high-performance-lubricant?sku=undefined
@tomrandall4871 9 ай бұрын
I've used the chain WD hitch for years on a construction trailer on short wheel based vans with the friction anti swaybar. On Long wheel trucks I did not need the sway bar. Got use to the chain adjustment fairly easily. When setup properly towing is a pleasure. I just bought a new enclosed cargo trailer and the old Huffy would not fit. I would need to cut holes in the floor to link the chains up. Bought a newer style WD hitch setup called a Curt True track #17499 WOW what a pleasure to tow with this! It has square spring bars that allows shorter placement of trailer frame clamps. And this system doesn't use chains. So the anti sway is built-in to the product.
@kennethwinter5665 9 ай бұрын
A. Couldn't the same affect be had by moving the trailer load back on the trailer?
@imsowright90 10 ай бұрын
Good, helpful info.
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@omarnait7709 10 ай бұрын
Thank you guys for the clarification. Very helpful 7 years later 🤗
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@kencurtis01 11 ай бұрын
Next time show us how to hook the bars up the sway bars
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Next time we'll go more into detail on the arms! Great suggestion!
@peterbullen3347 11 ай бұрын
Hey guys, what about vehicles with self leveling suspension, Landrover lr3/4 etc?
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
That is a great question! Contact our customer service team at [email protected] or call them at 877-523-9103 and they have best answer that for you!
@davidholt4640 11 ай бұрын
If your chains are so long that they drag or are close to the ground they are too long to use, if the tongue comes loose it will dig into the asphalt and flip the trailer or the tow vehicle, use safety chains that have about 3" of sag so they will cradle the tongue like they are supposed to do.
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
We agree!
@Joe-fj9kw5bg1v 11 ай бұрын
Ok you have a good ride height now, but now your trailer axles have more weight on them which could wear faster on the trailer and cause more blow outs and put more stress on the tongue which could cause it to crack.
@user-ci9vv5mz7z 7 ай бұрын
This is assuming that the trailer is not past it's load rating.
@Joe-fj9kw5bg1v 11 ай бұрын
Did you know if your airbags are right above the axel, that is the weakest point of your pickup frame, and it is going to bend right there above the axel because there is a multiple amount of pushing force down at the hitch it is like adding a cheater bar to a wrench to get more force to break free a bolt.
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Great advice!
@rjhein 11 ай бұрын
Yes, but most people are interested about using both systems. Why not bring that part up? I don't know many people that just one one vs the other, most realize the importance of the WDH systems, but it would be nice to see a summary of the advantages/drawbacks of using both systems in tandem (and the best way to set them up if doing so)
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Next time we'll have to include using both at the same time in a future video!
@NatureloverCa 9 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing.
@thomassullivan1207 9 ай бұрын
From what I read, using bags along with WDS diminishes the benefits of the WDS both from sway and weight distribution perspectives. I can't explain why or if it's even true, but that's what I read.
@user-ci9vv5mz7z 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@kingsleywood7249 Жыл бұрын
Surely if you loaded the trailer properly with the load over the axles and 10% of the gross weight on the tongue, you would have a much more balanced and safer combination. Why would you put so much load on the tongue and not on axles where it's meant to be?
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Yes, if the trailer is loaded correctly, you don't have to worry about airbags over a over-loaded tongue!
@user-ci9vv5mz7z 7 ай бұрын
If you are towing a camper. you don't have that choice
@alannoel489 Жыл бұрын
So heavier needs more spacer washers or less?
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
You will add washers to help balance out your hitch!
@jocool562 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely hate when my coworker tells ppl "if you have air bags you should be fine, you dont need a WD"
@justpere1437 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see what happens when combined! Great video!
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Great video idea!
@rossfricke2010 Жыл бұрын
Just load the trailer correctly, problem solved 😂
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
The easiest way to avoid this problem, LOL!
@alandiehl8398 Жыл бұрын
The place I bought my camper from set up the weight distribution hitch. Everything sits nice and level, however when I am connected to the trailer the distribution bars have little to no weight on them. In fact I can move them quite easily with the full weight of the camper on the truck. do I need to to raise the brackets that the bars set on?
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Hmm, I would contact our customer service team at [email protected] or call them at 877-523-9103 and make sure your hitch is set up correctly!
@michaelwaghorne9197 Жыл бұрын
Just enquiring if Jason calculated the load reactions on the chassis frame verses the Frame RBM and factor of safety needed and also on the differential housing with the air springs were inflated to 55psi which is generally 5 to 10 psi under the maximum pressure you see on a loaded vehicle fitted fully designed for air suspension.
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
I believe so yes, but for more questions you can contact our customer service team at [email protected] or call them at 877-523-9103!
@wotysgtb4348 Жыл бұрын
Airbags do just what they are designed to do, take away the squat. Nothing more nothing less. Weight distribution hitches are far more affective at fixing the transfer of weight that adversely affects the safety of towing a trailer. Airbags are a waste of money
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@thehappygocurmudgeon5283 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found this video. In General, having your RV dealer install these doesn’t mean it’s done correctly.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
True! It's always good to double check your hitch before each tow!
@jeremys3987 Жыл бұрын
Wish I could get the frame bracket to quit moving on mine..smh.. I really don't know why you guys don't make the inside link plate thicker so it doesn't bow. I followed the book exactly as the tightening procedure recommended and torqued to spec with a $500 Snap on torque wrench and it still bowed and moves an 3/16" either way on one of the brackets..
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Hey Jeremy! You're frame bracket definitely shouldn't be moving around like that. Contact our customer service team at [email protected] or call them at 877-523-9103 and they should be help you fix that!
@JourneyWithJana Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Quick, informative video. One question: I’m leaving my trailer hitches for three or four days while I travel. Is it ok to wait that long to lubricate? Thank you.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Yes you should be just fine! Happy travels!
@Matt-zx1xj Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see a combination of say 30psi or so in the bags with the weight distribution system. I replaced my rear leafspring suspension with a 4-link and airbags with a auto-leveling valve so my suspension automatically adjusts the pressure in my bags to keep the rear of the truck at the height I chose(level front to rear empty) from any weight adjustments, the same as a semi. Due to this I really wonder what kind of weird effects would come out of using a weight distribution hitch, if any.
@FastwayTrailer 10 ай бұрын
This would be a great video idea! Thanks for the idea!
@user-it5lf7qv2p Жыл бұрын
very helpful
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dpdj79 Жыл бұрын
Should the measurements and adjustments of the Weight distribution hitch be done before or after the bed of the truck is loaded with contents? Firewood, chairs, coolers. I try to keep things in the bed vs in the camper.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
I would adjust after your truck is fully loaded. That way you get the most accurate numbers, but if you aren't adding too much weight after you should also be fine!
@dpdj79 Жыл бұрын
Should the measurements and adjustments of the Weight distribution hitch be done before or after the bed of the truck is loaded with contents? Firewood, chairs, coolers. I try to keep things in the bed vs in the camper.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
I would adjust after your truck is fully loaded. That way you get the most accurate numbers, but if you aren't adding too much weight after you should also be fine!
@kctrinh Жыл бұрын
Great video even at 7 yrs old... now it would be nice to do an updated video using both WDH & Airbags
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@STUDLEE1A 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see this!
@vadimk8739 Жыл бұрын
I had this system installed by a dealer but when I arrived home and started unhitching, I just could not remove the spring bar on one of the sides. I had a large wood block under the tongue jack and I literally used the whole jack length and had both my vehicle and the trailer lifted at something like a 25 degree angle to the ground, and yet there was still tension on the bar. I ended up having to hammer the bar out of the L-bracket with a big hammer, and after I did that, the rear of my truck just slammed down hard to the ground. I am not sure what the dealer or I did wrong, maybe someone can help.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Oh no! I would contact our customer service team at [email protected] or call them at 877-523-9103, and explain to them what's happening with your hitch! They should be able to help you figure out the issue!
@itsallaboutshelby Жыл бұрын
Great illustration. Thanks for the work. I realize this is an older video but still very relevant still.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Norm7264 Жыл бұрын
love the scientific approach, very helpful, thanks
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Rafas812 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to buy air bags for my truck to tow my trailer. Thank God, I saw this and thank you for this information and effort to bring it to a larger audience. Very much appreciated. Thank you.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Glad our video was helpful!
@enigma9789 11 ай бұрын
I run airbags, but not for my camper, i still use the WDH. The WDH relies on a constant weight. My work trailer is constantly loaded all kinds of strange, so I use the airbags to basically adjust my headlights and have a better ride when the tounge is loaded heavy.
@island7458 Жыл бұрын
Superior content fellas. Thank you so much for the additional effort of adding the graphics with the weights! It was so easy for me to pause while multitasking compared to others who auction off the numbers... AND NOW A TWO FIFTY!!!! Also I was starting to get a little worried about Jason since he wasn't speaking, he's good ;)
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks for watching!!
@terryschantz4523 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Thanks guys.. I now understand my airbags on My 2015 TRD offroad are not even needed now when towing my trailer, (actually they are the wrong approach) I will only use the Weight Distribution hitch, this style hitch makes a HUGE difference when towing. From Slightly scary to NICE Controlled ride. I do use the Airbags when hauling loads of wood stone etc. in the Bed to level it out.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!!
@AU_4591 Жыл бұрын
I had the system fitted oct 2022 by the caravan dealer after using the H/R WDH before . Must say its a big improvement over the Hayman Reece WDH. One thing tho is it normal fir the friction points on the L bracket to show signs of a brown colour ( rust)? I rang my dealer and he said its ok but do not put anything oner the friction pads like silicon spray/ wd40 ect
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
A little bit of rust is normal, especially if your hitch is left outside in the rain or bad weather! Thankfully there are ways to spruce up your hitch, including sanding down the rust and repainting!
@hammer-r Жыл бұрын
Tks guys, I’ve got a weight distribution hitch for my RV but was thinking I might need air bags too. That might be for fine tuning. Great video.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@KeystoneTexan Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my e2 for two seasons now and it has been nothing but disappointment. The left side L bracket won’t stay tight and I’ve had the bar come off twice. I’m not sure what’s going on but I’ve torqued every thing to spec. I have the thousand pound bars and I’ve been told I need the 1200 pound bars because of the length and weight of my trailer. I get a lot of bounce and barely any sway control.
@FastwayTrailer Жыл бұрын
Oh no! Lets get this problem figured out. If you contact our customer service team at [email protected] or call them at 877-523-9103, they can help you figure out the problem!! I'm sorry this seems incredibly frustrating!