same from guadeloupe

Salut malheureusement pour apprendre la langue ou même en connaître plus sur la culture il faut trouver des personnes âgées avec la volonté de transmettre ou aller voire des associations comme la flarep ou sinon trouver des bibliothèques dédier à la culture régionale ou même ce rendre a paris et allée à la bnf et espère trouver de la resource 😉👍

@@agriculteur1984 Merci pour les conseils😁, justement ma grand-mère m'a conseillé une association dans le coin, après sachant que j'habite en île de france ça va être un peu compliqué pour s'y rendre

@@ToxiCisty Basque weren't influenced by Islam, the Islamic invasion stopped at Asturies

D'accord, on viendra vous reprendre si ils faut ^^

Ô libertat ​@@charlesl3847

va toucher de l'herbe

Visca Occitania

Occitània should look into the history of Ukraine and Belarus to show how they can successfully promote their native language even one which was in the past seen as a "foreign dialect". Today Ukraine isn't even called Russian speaking anymore while even former African colonies are still called French speaking, even though nobody has French as their native language.

The main thing is that when there's two different languages there two completely different cultures and ethnic groups, travelling between two places is the same as travelling between two countries. If France invaded Germany and imposed French today they'd be like "Eastern French" same as Alsatians are today. Distinct culture like Goethe, Der Brot, Goodbye Lenin, Moscau, all this wouldn't exist, they'd all know only Molière, Freed from Desire, Les Intouchables, Charles Aznavour, etc.

@@Benjamin-dy7uz you know what caused this homogeneity? Leftism, Jacobin leftism. The true national spirit of France lies in its diversity united under the banner of the french panache and catholicism

@@Benjamin-dy7uz and no shit we are more homogeneous than Germany they were butchered in 1918 and then again in 1945, they really just have the bare minimum land

So you are against diversity and in favour of homogeity as a general concept or only in the case of french culture?

@slaveofrhllor I only told my opinion in the last sentence. And I don't really understand where you want to bring me with such question. I think Europe is rich and diverse, it is a good thing.

what a ridiculous take. the "extraodinary" homogeneity of France only exists because of the opression of these cultures that you claim are inferior. ..

@ read the 2nd and 3rd paragraph

@bhealurout-f3w I wasn't talking about those. It only makes sense that ten centuries after most of these tribes have interbred with others which makes it genetically difficult to track who is living where. You would not expect people to keep their original lineage in a country like France. A melting pot of the western civilization.

​@bhealurout-f3w To match the French ancestry of the English population, genetics will establish standards for traits that define a French person based on current evidence. There were no "French" people who were not originally French and then migrated to England. Your last argument seems too speculative. Of course, the Normans were given French citizenship before some of them and other French knights conquered England under Guillaume Le Conquerant. His name confirms they were French. They conquered England as French subjects.

C'est justement la France et tant que État qui a tout fait pour détruite ces cultures et identité. Je pense que les Bretons, Corses, Alsaciens, Gascons, Occitans, etc n'ont rien à gagner à s'identifier avec cette entité politique qui a tout fait à tuer ces cultures et nie toujours leur existance.

C'est justement ce pays qui a fait que ces cultures (Occitanes, Catalanes, Bretonnes, Savoyardes, Alsaciennes) n'existent plus. C'est pas très beau un pays qui a fait tout pour détruire ces identités et cultures.

@@gamermapper Ce n'est pas le pays qui a fait cela, les cultures de France se portaient très bien sous l'Ancien Régime. C'est à partir de la Révolution que la destruction des langues et cultures a été initiée par le régime républicain.

@@gamermapper Ça fait beaucoup d'affirmations pour un si petit commentaire. Va falloir que tu définisses ces "cultures", ces "identités", que tu démontres en quoi elles "n'existent plus", et que tu prouves que la France "a fait tout pour les détruire". Bon courage l'ami, la bise du pays Basque.

Notre pays est très centralisée sur Paris que ce soit niveau connections des transports et logistique que niveau culturelle et politique ​@@clement7689

@@Benjamin-dy7uz thanks for your detailed refutation

@@Nicolas_II I read "were" instead of "weren't". Im sorry.

@@Benjamin-dy7uz oh that explains

@@Nicolas_II it's more complicated. The local church didn't much against catharism, so the pope put pressure on them, which didn't solve the situation, so then he called a crusade. The king of France was the main military force behind the crusade, and it also was an opportunity for him to exert control and influence in the south. There are definitely antagonisms between South and north, not having to do only with cathars

@@anthon3919 actually Phillip Augustus didn't really care, it was the house of Montfort that really wanted more land

and not flanders??

Because it's an island ???

@@Trebor-17 Nice region overwhelmingly spoke an occitan dialect , whereas Savoy spoke arpitan with french as an administrative language thanks to the Rivoli edict. In other terms they were always french and not Frenchified

​@@Nicolas_II In Savoy it is true that French culture and language were more influential than Italian ones, but despite this, even before the Plebiscite for annexation to France, many Savoyards protested against the annexation. Already at the beginning of 1860, many demonstrators in Chambéry contested the possible passage of the region to France, and on March 16 of the same year the representatives of the provinces of Northern Savoy sent a declaration to Victor Emmanuel II, Napoleon III and the Federal Council of Switzerland where it was reported that they did not want annexation to France, but preferred to remain in the Kingdom of Sardinia or, in the case in which separation from Piedmont was inevitable, to become part of Switzerland. In 1871, a movement appeared in Central and Northern Savoy that opposed the annexation, and a citizens' committee of Bonneville declared that the vote of 1860 was the result of imperialist pressure, did not indicate a free intention of the population, and therefore called for a new plebiscite. France responded by sending 10,000 soldiers to restore order and those who identified themselves as the Italian Savoyards emigrated to Piedmont or were assimilated. Nice, on the other hand, was already part of Italy in Roman times, in Regio IX "Liguria", the region with which it would always be linked (except for brief parentheses) until the French annexation. It was then a free Commune under the Holy Roman Empire, while maintaining close alliance relations with Genoa. In 1388 it passed, with free association, under the control of the County of Savoy, remaining a Savoyard dominion until 1860, and Emanuele Filiberto I in 1561 changed the use of Latin as the official language in Nice in favor of Italian. Then, as we know, following the Treaty of Turin (1860), which was stipulated between Victor Emmanuel II and Napoleon III, Nice and its province were ceded to the French Empire together with Savoy as compensation for the transalpine aid in the Second Italian War of Independence against the Austrian Empire, despite the fact that, in violation of the agreements, France had caused the cessation of the war by unilaterally starting armistice negotiations with Austria. To seal the annexation, a consultative plebiscite was called here too. The vote was however deeply influenced by the previous agreement between the authorities: many people from Nice were excluded, for various reasons, from the electoral lists, while many French were purposely transferred and registered to manipulate the votes, with the operations taking place under the control of the French Authorities and Troops. Where the voting could take place freely, the results left no room for doubt: for example, 119 sailors from Nice, stationed on Savoy ships in the various ports, who were able to vote freely, expressed themselves as follows: 114 to remain in Italy and 5 to go to France. Following the annexation, 11,000 inhabitants out of 44,000 left the city, moving to Italy and this emigration is known as the Nice Exodus, with the French Government subsequently closing all Italian-language Nice newspapers. The part of the people of Nice who decided to stay underwent a process of forced Frenchification: many of the surnames of Nice were changed (for example "Bianchi" became "Leblanc" and "Del Ponte", "Dupont", etc.); and the use of Italian was suppressed in favour of French. Many were so irritated that they unleashed, 10 years later, the Nice Vespers which were the Popular Anti-French Uprising that took place between 8 and 10 February 1871. Giuseppe Garibaldi was then elected to the National Assembly of Bordeaux with the specific mandate to repeal the Treaty of Turin of 1860. The elections showed almost unanimous support for the ideal of Nice City of Italy (26,534 votes out of 29,428 votes cast) and the inhabitants of the Nice area reacted by rebelling against French rule, which this time too was restored only with weapons following the dispatch of 10,000 soldiers to quell the revolt. Garibaldi was prevented from speaking at the assembly and, frustrated, he consequently resigned. The Rebellion was an example of the close cultural and political ties between Nice and Italy. Nice had in fact always actively participated in the process of National Unity, remaining excluded only by diplomatic choices of the first King of Italy and his Prime Minister. Examples of the Nice opinion on its own identity can be found in the writings of Garibaldi, who asserted for example: «To deny the Italianity of Nice is to deny the light of the sun». Furthermore, from a linguistic point of view, «In Nice the language of the Church, of the forum, of the town hall, of the schools and of the theatre was always Italian... From the year 460 until the middle of the 19th century the county of Nice counted 269 writers, not including the living ones. Of these 269 writers, 90 used Italian; 69 Latin; 45 Italian and Latin; 2 Italian and Provençal; 6 Italian, Latin and French; 7 Italian and French; 2 Italian, French and Niçoise». In fact, before the year 1000 the Region of Nice belonged to the Ligurian League, and was therefore under the influence of Genoa, with the population speaking the western variant of Ligurian. Dante Alighieri himself shows us in his writings how even in his time the Var river, which flows west of Nice, was the western border of Liguria. In the 12th century Nice came under the dominion of the Angevins, who favored the immigration of peasants from Provence, speaking Occitan. In this period, the language of the population actually began to lose its Ligurian connotations in favor of the Provençal ones. From 1388 to 1860 the County of Nice was however under the dominion of the House of Savoy, and therefore the spoken language returned to being influenced by Italian. In these centuries the dialect of Nice, known as Nizzardo, was similar to Monegasque, but with more Occitan influences than in its origins. In 1881 even the New York Times wrote in an article that before the annexation to France, the people of Nice were as Italian as, for example, the Genoese, and their dialect was an Italian dialect. Many scholars today classify Nizzardo as a variant of the Occitan language, and Monegasque as a variant of Ligurian, but as mentioned, before the cession of Nice to France, the region around the city was not French-speaking. However, even today many scholars such as the German Werner Forner, the French Jean-Philippe Dalbera and the Italian Giulia Petracco Sicardi, agree that the Nizzardo dialect has phonetic, lexical and morphological characteristics that are common to the Ligurian language. That said, history has now run its course and there is no point in claiming territories that are now foreign to the culture of origin (as mentioned, the only one left would be Corsica, but they are not inclined to recognize their Italianness, so for now there is no point in insisting). Now we must develop greater cohesion and unity as Europeans to face together the challenges that the World will reserve for us. Greetings to our French cousins ​​from Italy!

@Trebor-17 very interesting comment indeed, It would be extremely long to respond to everything but I have to say that the 1871 vote may have largely been influenced by political instability in France more than real irredentism. On the one hand we have the recently unified kingdom of Italy which annexed the legendary city of Rome and is full of promises and on the other hand France, a fallen empire becoming a weak republic, humiliated by Prussia with communist insurrections here and there. It may have greatly influenced niçois positions. Also the fact that lettered people spoke Italian shows that it was an elite that was implanted in Nice while the peasants and other low class people were primarily occitan

@Trebor-17 as for the Savoy part I'm confused about Bonneville which was notoriously pro France, I mean they even attacked infiltrated swiss doing propaganda and tearing up Swiss flags

@@Nicolas_II Certainly the sources regarding a specific historical event can vary, based on the sensitivity that the nation from which they come has on the subject. What I have been able to understand about this event is that, as mentioned, in 1860 part of the population was in favor of the idea of ​​union with Switzerland (if the division from Piedmont was inevitable) thus reaching more than 13,600 signatures in favor in a petition. Then, following the plebiscite organized on April 22 and 23, 1860, 99.8% of the Savoyards answered "yes" to the question "Does Savoy want to unite with France?". At this point, perhaps that specific citizens' committee of Bonneville, which declared that the result of the vote of 1860 was not valid and truthful, may not have represented the will of the majority of the citizens of that specific city. In any case, we have already agreed on the fact that in Savoy the most influential culture was still the French one, despite the weak attempts of some citizens to claim the Italian one (unlike the much more numerous and strong Italian Resistances in Nice)

Breton Is the collest languages and culture in france !!!! Love from Italy 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

@@97Corvi I really dont see myself as a french. I' m just breton. But thank you

@@briandmaxime5412 Celtic Nations are amazing!

​@@gamermappersure it is and i like the Cornwall people

​@@Vince_ExEoverall I like Israel and Middle Eastern cultures but tbh it would still be much better if your government didn't attack and harass neighbours all the time and commit war crimes which only makes your reputation worse

True! Thats why I said "from Italy or of Italian origin"

@BigPictureView You wrote "Italians in France", whereas Zola was never Italian. You must consider someone's ethnicity by where they lived and were raised, not by their genes.

@BigPictureView Then you should have wrote it down, here it seems like you want to hide some part of the truth...

What language he spoke and what culture he belonged to? The Jews didn't have a nation for most of world's history and were in the diaspora but remained Jews. Hell even though I'm born in France I feel much closer to Belarusian than French culture. People merely being born somewhere and having the papers of this state doesn't mean they'll necessarily have to adopt the culture of the local ethnic majority. I am a Belarusian first even if I live in France.

@gamermapper Dude of course Zola was born with the French language, he's literally one of the greatest French novel writers! One of the finest French writers! It's like asking whether Anthony Trollope spoke English or not when he's literally one of the greatest British authors. 🥴

​@@TheoneanduniqueAubergine8622 Il me semble qu'on peut apprendre le Picard à l'université d'Amiens

​​​@@sirkewbic5583 les langues autochtones non françaises sont souvent disponibles aux universités mais sont bien moins disponibles dans des écoles pour les enfants surtout dans des villages. C'est ça aussi le problème, le "soutien" minimal à ces langues est limité à un monde citadin et universitaire. Ici en Alsace y'a encore plein de locuteurs natifs (bien que y'en a très peu aujourd'hui malheureusement) mais les seules écoles en alsacien sont à Strasbourg surtout des universités. Au final du coup ça sera des intellos dans des licenses de sciences sociales qui vont s'y connaître dans ces langues pour écrire leur longues thèses ou parler de littérature du XIXe siècle. Des gens très déconnectes du reste de la société. Jamais des créateurs et artistes du contenu multimédia qui pourraient vraiment être un contre pouvoir face à la culture française omniprésente.

@@sirkewbic5583 Oh vraiment ? J'ai vraiment hâte qu'on se bouge chez nous aussi pour que ça revienne.

I lived in Elsass all my life but only learned its true history and identity over the Internet, in history classes we were told the same story about French kings, shown French literature and on TV we only had French movies, any mention of specifically Alsatian history which wasn't even a part of France for most of it wasn't included. No Alsatian or German literature either. The only reason you don't know about it is the French government did a good job for everyone to forget their true identity.

What are you talking about? I live in France Guyana (the west part), and you probably never went here. What the actual f*ck man. Please don't project your neurosis on other. I pick France over Suriname or Brazilie anytime.

You are not the first person to compare France with Austria-Hungary, and this is not a good comparison. Austria-Hungary failed to do such a large assimilation, and France succeeded because 92% of France's languages were Latin-derived.

It's not comparable at all, France’s minorities are much closer to eachother than Austria-Hungary’s were. Also contrary to popular belief the minority languages mostly died on their own after mass media and rural exodus.

Well that can also be said of Germany, Spain, Italy, Uk.... The thing is that French nationalism was not founded on the same grounds as other European nationalisms. Sure French was made the official language of all French people, but it is not the basis of French nationalism, It is the state that is the basis of French nationalism. We are not French because we speak French and are of a French culture, but we are French because we come from France. Although it is a shame that the government suppressed all the minority languages, most people from minorities never thought of seceding because they felt French (At least it's true for most Langues d'Oïl, Occitan and Arpitan speakers). They have no connections to any other states and are part of France since centuries. Even for the most recently added territories like Savoy en Nice, there were plebiscites that wer won by France. Even most people from Alsace and Moselle didn't want to be part of Germany although they are ethnically Germans... Regionalisms are indeed important in some French regions, but they are that : regionalisms. Apart from Corsica, and even for Corsica, it is very unlikely that any referendum for independance would win seizable attraction from the public, outside of assimilation. And the thing is, even if there are historically different languages in France, they are mostly close (why should Sicilians with Piedmontese or Galicians with Catalans be fine but not French with Occitans when those two last are arguably closer than the others) and French people share much more than they have differences : centuries or even more than a millenia of history, genetics (French people can and should mostly be considered one ethnicity because of the circulations of a people in the state since centuries (for a shorter area than that of the historical distribution of the German ethnicity)), culture (because yes there are different traditions, but as much as any other nation states), religion (judeo-christian tradition, the Revolution made protestants and Jews as much citizens as catholics, however, even when there were war of religions, the problem was not if the others were French or not, but that they were of the wrong religion)... I would point that I speak only about metropolitan France, like the video, but even for overseas territories, the reasoning is the same : it is the state which makes the nation, not the "ethinicity".

​@@fancyfact1389 is this a good thing though? It only means that the French government was much more immoral than the Austrian one. And even if 92% is Latin based, so what? (not even sure that's true if we count the overseas territories). Occitan, Corsican and Catalan cultures are as different as Belarusian Russian Ukrainian and Polish. To you they're all the same nation and it makes it okay to assimilate them all?

Have you wondered whether it's not on purpose? France tried hard to make everyone forget about their existance.

Most countries in Europe are much more diverse than people usually think, we are still a part of the Old world you know, even though we are not China or Russia or Nigeria, countries still usually include many ethnic groups (other than the majority) with their respective native land. And sometimes you can even argue that the ethnicity that constitutes the majority is more of a social construct imposed on people through the centuries rather than an identity based on a common language and culture, the great-grandparents of the people that today call themselves Italians, Spanish or French probably didn't even speak the same language, it was the case here in Italy, where 100 years ago the probability that two random "Italians" spoke the same language was I'd say around 5%. Not that the Americas aren't diverse ofc, but it's a different type of diversity, it's different people coming from all over and living in the same space rather than different ethnicities living on their separate land and sharing a country.

​@@alexialu4224Native Americans are as culturally diverse as Europeans but unfortunately they've experienced genocide and forced assimilation and today most Americans don't care about the cultures of their own continent

@@gamermapper yes ofc, I should have mentioned native americans. It's not like the colonized continents weren't inhabited before, and what the colonizers did was 100% genocide that flattened all of the preexisting cultural diversity

@@alexialu4224 also there's no such thing as the "New World". A racist, colonialist term. Native American cultures are as old as European ones.

Occitània was literally compared by Engels, the friend of Karl Marx, to Poland, which was at that time under Russian occupation, and yet whenever I make these comparaisons people believe they're not the same at all!

@@gamermapper yet they created the most assimilationist ideology ever created, directly inspired from the Jacobins.

That cultural uniformity was created through discrimination. Learning the languages is a way of undoing that injustice. Pretty sure the people whose culture was taken from them have a reason to reconnect with it.

Unity is strength? This is what Russia said about Russian empire too and that's why they want to suppress Ukrainian and Belarusian identity too... 🥱 Forced unity by cultural gеnocide isn't strength... 😭

@@BigPictureView What are you even talking about ? Those "discriminations" happened centuries ago to people who are all dead now, so literally no one cares. Wanting reparations for these "discriminations" is just as absurd as demanding reparations for slavery.

Do you speak Gascon? The future of the language relies on your people because you won't get help by the goverment

@@smileyface3956 Yes, I do speak to some extent though I'm not as nearly as proficient as a native speaker. My children attend a bilingual school and are on the other hand fluent in it. We try to participate in local events to promote the language and culture too. But let's be honest,it feels like being the Last of the Mohicans. Most young people in the area don't even know what Gascon sounds like and would think it's some kind of Spanish dialect... The overall cultural scene is in pretty bad shape. It's very ”niche”. Efforts are made but it doesn't seem to attract young people or newcomers to the area.

@@DoraEmon-xf8br I am glad to hear that you are doing the right thing and you are teaching your offspring the language of your ancestors I am also a minority in my country. I am a Chakavian Croat and I am currently learning my language because I was born in the capital. Other minorities are well represented but the Chakavians are not a recognized minority since we are Croats. It is the same with you and the Occitans. We are a similiar people but we do not speak the same language

Gascon here and think the same

I’m French too, from another occitan part named Provence. I don’t agree with you because occitan subcultures share a lot of things. You will find arena for bulls in the Landes and in Arles. But there 600km between them… In my opinion in France we have the “midi” lifestyle, which is shared in all the occitans part.

Come and take it, macaroni eater

AVANTI SAVOIA!

Honestly I believe Italy would've treated them better, both the Indigenous languages and cultures and the French speakers would've been treated way better under Italy (see Vallée d'Aosta or South Tyrol). I'm not even Italian, I'm Alsatian, I don't like extreme Italian nationalism like Mussolini and all that but I don't see how wanting Savoy, Nissa and especially Corsica to be Italian is considered extreme irredentism. Corsicans are culturally Italians. Nissa is Occitan so culturally Latinos that were forcibly Frenchisided. And in any case pizza and Sara per que ti amo is amazing, I don't see what they have to lose by being a part of this amazing country, much better than France than destroyed their cultures.

Savoy as always been culturally french and been French speaking since the 15th century with barely any influence from the Franks Nice was occitan before the piedmontese replaced them, occitans are closer to frenchmen than anybody else so they just brought back the status quo Meanwhile Corsicans hate Italy as much as they hate the french administration (since you guys are barely loyal to anyone you sold them out twice lmfao) Keep your savage, corrupted, rowdy cath hands off french land, and while you're at it give aosta and South Tyrol to its rightful owners

@@GuineaownerNoi dell’ Alto Adige stiamo bene dove siamo e Mr. Guinea si faccia i caz suoi quando si mette a parlare di gruppi di cui non fa parte e conosce dato che non ha alcun caz di diritto di decidere a chi dobbiamo appartenere noi dell’ Alto Adige e Trentino Mr. Guinea Svizzero, e noi decidiamo cosa farne del nostro futuro e non voi stranieri del caz su Internet

Why would we learn a dialect from Belgium while living in France and never going or interacting with belgians ?

@@MrRamtalok Because we’re as francophone as anyone else, and we bother to learn your dialect. Do you know any Picard? Any Occitan? Any Normand, Gaumais or Gallo? We have to learn your French, the least you could do is at least be familiar with ours

Pourtant je crois que vous avez brièvement été français a une époque ?

​@@ezrafriesner8370le problème c'est que la france est centralisée et contre les langues régionales/dialectes, le principe d'un dialecte c'est qu'il soit parlé dans une région en + aucune raison d'apprendre le dialecte d'une région avec laquelle on n'a aucun lien

@@ezrafriesner8370 Because France french isn't a dialect, it's the baseline. Like I said you have a lot of opportunities to interact with people speaking regular french. I know/understand some ch'ti because of my family but that's it. I live in the opposite of belgium so I won't get our of my way to learn a dialect I'll probably never encounter. Also speaking to you in english because we don't "understand" wallon is bullshit. Wallon isn't as strange as you are making it to be.