I get what you're saying, but there is no New Testament example or command to such. It might be warranted at times, and God still raises up nations and puts nations down. But the notion that any time a government is corrupt, Christians should take to arms, is not biblical. In such a case, Jesus' reply would be "ye know not what spirit ye are of." Or, "those that live by the sword shall die by the sword." While the Apostles engaged in near constant civil disobedience, it was never violent. Their sword was the word of God.

Christ died for those that the Father gave Him: John 17:2-“As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.” These are the world of John 3:16. The world of John 3:16 does not embrace the world that cannot receive the Spirit of truth (John 14:17), the world Christ refused to pray for (John 17:9), and the world we are told not to love (1st John 2:15).

@@treystevenson9872 yes , you don’t have to “pray” for anyone. Most don’t even know what “prayer” is to begin with. One thing I do know is…. God does not make mistakes. We are ALL Gods children. Some of us are Sons of God.

@@willcollier7338 Romans 9:8-“That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”

Will, you said "We are ALL God's children." So how do you explain passages like John 8 or 1 John 3 that speak of people being of their father the devil? Clearly they're not children of God. Furthermore, to be a child of someone, you must be born of them or adopted. That's clearly something that scripture speaks of and it doesn't apply to everyone.

@@Marchtozion when we “eat” from the wrong tree…the tree of good and evil…we all are submitting to the “devil” . “All have sinned” therefore All have summited to the“god” of this world. Now does that mean that we are all doomed ? No….Jesus died for ALL and in turn He saved us ALL. That does not mean we All know it….yet. But we will. Remember…Every knee and Every tongue will confess…

No. We are God’s elect because of His foreknowledge and election of us before the foundation of the world: 1st Peter 1:2-“Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.”

@taylornovia8911 negative. We were chosen in love by the Father, in Christ, before He created the universe. Good question! God is omniscient, knowing all things. He loved His people with am everlasting love and set their destiny before time began.

A real faith is a part of a new nature that includes a real change in an individual. But personal assurance is only through faith. The people whose personal performance convinced them that they were holy were the Pharisees. Assurance is by faith, whose object is Christ.

@@DixieDivision I did and they got mad 😆

​@@Marchtozionit's the biggest issue in this church age. I saw 😂

There is none good, but God.

@@Marchtozion Yup, Santa Claus for adults. Good luck with that.

@imcorp8828 imagine believing in a watch but not a watchmaker. Or a building existing without an architect. The heavens declare the glory of God.

@@Marchtozion Imagine questioning everything with a rational mind...never mind your mind is already cleaned and pressed.

@darianperkins1837 God exchanges the heart of stone for a heart of flesh. We are passive in that. Any good works we do are because of a gracious state, and evidence, but not salvific. Our righteousnesses are as filthy rags. If it is of grace, it cannot be of work otherwise grace is no grace (Rm 11).

@@MarchtozionYou’re not responding to the original commenter’s claim that living a sinful life and not repenting but still believing in Jesus will likely not lead you to be saved. Mortal sins can completely cut you off from Christ, and acting like it’s okay to stick with one’s old life but continuing in sinful ways is deceiving. Many Christians today do this, both Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodox.

@Marchtozion I only mean it is dangerous to say to someone that all is required is to believe in Jesus to be saved. This simply isn't true. Scripture tells us that we must turn from our old ways (repent), or our faith isn't genuine.

@@Marchtozion And how does one know if they are “truly saved”? Isn’t that presuming God will put us in Heaven? How can we reconcile if someone is currently saved but then chooses to murder someone completely consensually? Clearly, a man can fall in and out of God’s grace throughout his life but must choose to walk with God in his last days. Thus, avoid both despair and presumption and realize that salvation is a LIFELONG process.

Are any of us so arrogant as to believe we have sufficiently repented of all our sins? You harbor no secret sins? Define repentance? The new birth makes a real, permanent difference in a person's life (see our other content). But my point, which you all are disputing because of your theological bias, remains. John promises life to the believer, not to the ones who check enough boxes. Salvation is by grace, not works.

@darianperkins1837 yes, I declare my claim to faith to be legitimate when I do good works. And I therefore justify myself before others. But my good works ARE NOT SALVIFIC. Salvation is by grace, not works.

Not exactly true. A child of God can act wickedly at different times in their life because they still have the old nature but because they were regenerated by the Holy Spirit they will be in heaven and immortal glory.

True

@ericww32 faith and repentance are fruits of a gracious state, not the cause of salvation. Define repentance. What level? Where is your arbitrary line? Are you arrogant enough to believe you have fully repented of every sin? Lordship salvation is heretical bondage.

@@Marchtozion so argumentative. What exactly do you hear when I say repent? I never claimed anything remotely close to being sinless.

@@Marchtozion Matthew 7 plainly states “21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” What is the WILL of the Father? To repent, or in other words, to turn away from sin. People only claiming to be a Christian will not enter into the kingdom of heaven because they aren’t repenting but living in their sin. A good example is Christians that partake in the LGBT community or Christians that rob others or adulterous Christians. We are also called to tell everyone the good news, so I would consider that work or call to action.

Jesus founded His church. There were no denominations yet. However, even during the Apostles' ministries grievous wolves would enter the church, not sparing the flock.

Amen! So thankful you found your way home, by God's grace.

@Akio-fy7ep that's actually not true. There are historical references to people with that name in the 1st century....multiple Jewish references.

Hear, hear! 👏👏👏

The new birth imparts spiritual life. It's when we are quickened or regenerated, and is an actual resurrection in a spiritual sense. Baptism is our answer in response to this, the answer of a good conscience towards God. The new birth happens like the wind (John 3:8) and God is the only active agent. Baptism is performed by a preacher, at the confession and request of the convert. :-)

There are a few Primitive Baptist churches in Kenya. I would actually suggest making contact with Martin Onyoni, who can point you in the right direction! He lives in Kisii. Thankful for your interest.

@Marchtozion OK connect me with him