I'm sure many others have the same thought.

Great point about comparing the same two cars in a low speed accident. That never even entered my mind but yeah, the classic would be much less damaged in a slow speed accident.

The old cars had NO BUMPERS as you can see. That is why the "5mph bumper" was invented to please insurance co.s that had to total cars for parking lot hits back then. Newer cars would only dent the bumper The entire interior of the newer car barely moved, dash didn't budge; the older car with no crash absorption had total destruction outside AND inside where the guys head smashed into the steering wheel as the steering wheel was heading into the guys head. No comparison. It's all about design, not mass. They knew about mass in the 50s and 60s, but didn't care period, the end.

The Tesla Mob can be about as bad as the EV haters. I've heard other complaints that sound a lot like yours. Because I could trade my car plus get about $7500 to boot by getting one of those Bolt's I'd consider it. My Niro is way nicer but $7,500 is nice too. Carvana would give me $19,800 for the Niro EV and then buy one there for $9500 or so after the dealer fee and no sales tax under Arkansas law so actually WOW! That's $10,000. Geeeezzzz that would be tempting.

@@ArkansasEV If you have shopped around looking at ICE what the heck can you buy for that kind of money now? NOT MUCH! These things are bargains. We are going to have some sort of energy price shock and this used market is going to dry up fast. I keep saying it, one day it will happen and people will be like, "I remember when I could steal an EV with a new battery for $10k" "Oh those were the good old days!" ROFL

@@Longsnowsm I bet you are right. Oh how I wish they would charge faster when traveling. Not everyone needs to travel in it but if we had two we'd have to use it for that.

Glad you liked it!

I'm scared to test drive one. I'm afraid I'd do something stupid.

Another reason Tesla might not be for me is because everybody has one. I mean that figuratively of course when I say everyone. It seems all EV's enthusiast want a Tesla which makes them less appealing to me. I remember when Nissan first came out with the Xterra. I wanted the yellow one so badly but then so did everyone else. Once I realized everybody was buying yellow it made it less appealing. My best friend Mannor bought a grey one. He went up there to get the yellow and the salesman told him "you'll get tired of the yellow. After having it a while most people wish they had gotten a different color." He wound up talking him out of the yellow and I teased him later "Yeah, he knows he can sell that yellow one easily and was pushing you onto what he wanted to sell." This was guessing mid 90's. Now, the Tesla is a great car with over the air updates, improvements over the years, and other great features so not bashing it at all. It's just the more everyone wants a Tesla and the more competition they have the less I want one. I still might would buy one just because of all the benefits but if I were gonna spend $50,000 probably not. Used at $20,000 very likely yes. Wait till the Mach-E used can be had for $20,000 though.

@@ArkansasEV I think those prices are coming to you fast. People have Elon Derangement Syndrome now so people are hating on Tesla. It isn't nearly the cultural status symbol it was before Elon bought Twitter. If I see an EV on my road trips most of the time it is a Tesla, and you are right.... Oh look, another Tesla. It has been kinda old for a couple of years now. I am glad to see some EV's on the road, but by now I expected to see a nice mix of other EV's in the mix. But then again I can't tell you how many times I have talked with EV owners and they have NEVER road tripped their EV. They have an ICE for that or they rent a car. It is really crazy. I honestly think any manufacturer that doesn't offer Carplay or Android Auto integration where you can use your cell phone is a big negative. I know with the Tesla I am probably going to add that function to my car so when the connectivity plan dies some time in the future I will still be able to use Waze, Maps, apps etc. Ford still supports Carplay and AA I believe and I would consider that a big plus. This paywall nonsense in vehicles bad news.

I cut out a some of the video. Part of what I cut out was me asking the question "Is Ford making this dealership but these because it seems like soooooo many for NE Arkansas." I also cut out one of those moments where I meander off the subject when I passed a Mexican restaurant haha. I meander off the subject easier than most if I'm not careful.

Until last year I worked at Lowe's for over 12 years and in the electric department quite often and nobody ever told me this. I never knew how cheaply made those outlets were. I'm sure it's what I have but with only a 16 amps maximum cord I guess it's fine for now. Of course if someone has to depend on the Lowe's or Home Depot employee to truly help them with their electric or plumbing problem then they probably just need to call an expert to do the work for them. So many times, especially in plumbing, customers would be asking me questions that I did not know the answer to. I'm not a plumber. They'd get really irritated that I could not explain to them how to fix their problem. In electric we were not allowed to tell them much at all because if we did and their house burned down they'd cry and moan then say it was our fault and go see a lawyer.

Oh they can and their math goes like this Battery Cost $20,000 replaced every 50,000 miles = 40 cents a mile ROFL

Love the data! Your electric rates are incredibly cheap, we pay $.15/kWh, but I have solar so that helps

We have solar too but I regret buying them. For starters our rates are too low to make solar a great deal here. Plus, the company that installed them has gone out of business so if I have a problem now I'm gonna have to find another solar company to fix it for me. Our panels used to cover 100% of our usage until we got our 2nd EV which is driven almost twice as much as the first one.

Plus I should have mentioned it was such a nice day there was no HVAC at all on. That probably made a 20 mile difference on the gueessometer. About Tesla. I don't know from experience but its strange that from what I hear Tesla is about the only EV that on a regular basis does not meet it's EPA range rating. Most EV's seem to meet or surpass their rated range but I hear people all the time say things like "Tesla's EPA range rating is a fantasy."

@@ArkansasEV So far my experience is that Tesla's figures are fantasy. I saw the Out of Spec M3LR RWD range test recently and it doesn't add up. I have seen others talking about their experiences and something is up with the reports of Tesla meeting or beating the EPA figures. Real world owners seem to say otherwise. I drive for efficiency, chill mode, playing the regen and energy chart video game and I work at it to get good numbers. I know if I drive like everyone else there is no way I would get close to the EPA numbers. I don't drive 70mph, not even close out here in the sticks and I can't dream of touching those numbers. Not only that degradation is also a factor. My car(A 2023 M3LR) new was rated for 358 miles, and with 14k miles on it now Recurrent says the range is closer to 313 and I question that. I think the number is closer to 293-298 if my math is right and that is driving the way I drive. According to Recurrent that puts it right where it should be in their database. Frankly I think the other brands do a better job of providing those EPA numbers. To Tesla's credit the range they do get for the size of battery they are putting in the cars is respectable but the real numbers should be dramatically lower. Of course OOS drives below zero SOC to wring out that last 15-20 miles which I hope most consumers are NEVER doing, but even if I padded my numbers for the buffer still not even close to the rated range. My hats off to GM in how well they manage the regen and the GOM. At least in the Bolt. I can't speak to how well it is working in the Ultium cars. The charging performance has been erratic and not great in the early reports. With more vehicles getting access to the Tesla charging network people have choices other than Tesla. If you have an issue with your Tesla living out here in the sticks you can forget "Tesla Rangers" coming out to fix it! I ran into my first issue where my car driver seat back is popping off the back of the seat. Seems like it would be a simple fix to replace it. I opened a ticket EXPECTING they would send a Ranger. NOPE. Guess who has to drive 130 miles each way to KC Service center? And first appointment I could get was almost a month out! Dealers local to us are HIGHLY UNDER RATED. I am more than a little unhappy regarding the Rangers and long wait times for service that I have to drive long distances to get. Still don't know if they are going to replace the seat back or seat under warranty or if they are going to gouge me for it. They required me to add a payment method to the app to schedule the service. And it sounded like in the follow up message that I may be required to leave my car with them. Which will mean a second trip to get the car, and I don't know if they are going to provide a loaner or if I am stuck picking up a rental. The honeymoon is over with me and Tesla already. I heard from other owners last year when I was trying to decide between a Tesla and the Bolt that they were saying the Tesla Rangers were over booked and were a month out before they would make it to you and if you needed something done sooner you would have to bring the car in. I was worried about that, and now it appears I was right to be worried. Now it appears there are no Tesla Rangers, and you are still about a month out and you have to take it to them. I had a couple of things come up with my Bolt that I called the dealer, told them what was going on, sent them a picture, they ordered the part, called me when the part was in and I drove over and they fixed it while I waited in the lobby. They took good care of me. Not getting that vibe from Tesla AT ALL. Maybe it is a better experience if you live near a service center. So far I have yet to talk to a human at Tesla. Oh boy.

@@Longsnowsm Our local Ford dealer has probably a dozen Mustang Mach-E's for sale. Of course they are all out of my price range. I did tell the wife just last week 'for me it'd be a tough choice between a Tesla and Mustang Mach-E if we were gonna buy a new one.' Except for the S model I never have really liked the looks of the Tesla. I think the Mustang looks great. Also I think I like physical buttons. And I like the idea of a service center being a few miles from my house.

@@ArkansasEV The Mach-e looks very nice I think. They did bump the charging speed and have done some much needed refresh work, but what killed me is during this last refresh they still didn't include the heat pump. They just put the heat pump on the Lightning for 2024, but didn't add it to the Mach-e. I was so disappointed. Heat pump, and preconditioning features I found to be critical when I do any sort of road trip in the winter months especially up north. Most of my road trips still center around the holidays so that range loss on longer trips becomes very obvious. One of the hangups I had with Tesla was no way to precondition on the road if I was going to a non-Tesla charger. Once I found I could get the S3XY buttons commander for the Tesla and that I could manually fire up a precondition before gong to non-Tesla SC's that addressed one of my hang ups with Tesla so that I can use it with both non-Tesla and Tesla charging sites. I drive straight through EV desert and there aren't any Tesla SC's out there and the few slow DCFC that are out there are CCS. That made this feature critical. Thankfully I found a way to do it or the Tesla would have still not been an option. I also really like the Hyundai/Kia products and the 800v architecture, but until I know for sure they have addressed the slow charging on the Tesla SC's I had just pass for now. Since I was buying used this time I know they aren't going to support the first cars with any update to make that happen as they can't even do OTA updates until recently. Hyundai/Kia did add the heat pumps, and the preconditioning features I was looking for. They are checking all the blocks for me, but if I want to use Tesla SC's they charge like POOP! That likely starts to change with the V4 chargers, but so far I don't see that the V4's are going to be in nearly as many places as your V2, V3 chargers for quite some time. So that all weighed in on my thinking. Will Hyundai address this poor charging situation with the 2025 since they announced it will be NACS? We don't know. It does not look like Lucid addressed the poor charging situation on their 2025's either with the SC sites. I guess that is the downside of engineering a better solution and having to wait for everyone to catch up. Local dealers and support really need to be considered if people don't live near Tesla service centers. I know they are opening more service centers, but it will be decades at best before they have anything even remotely as good as local dealer networks. Their stop gap was the Tesla Rangers, but as I found out that does not exist everywhere anymore. I don't think people know this has happened. Probably fell victim to the cost cutting.

@@Longsnowsm About 100 miles from me in Bartlett, TN. there is a Tesla showroom. I wonder if all showrooms have service centers attached to them. Now, showroom is my word not their's. It's a place I've never been to that is owned by Tesla and they sell used models. I need to run over there some weekend and see. I sometimes look on their used website for one. The problem is they offered me $16,800 for my Niro EV on a trade in and Carvana is offering me $21,400 so it's the same problem I have with Hybrid & Electric Car sales in Franklin, TN. I have to sell to Carvana, deposit the check, then pick up the new car without missing work or for sure not more than one day. It's a pain. I'll be off 3 months starting late May but who knows how much value the Niro will loose by then?

Thank you.

I'm glad to hear they bought it with no problem. I've sold to them two or three times. On another two occasions it did not go smooth at all. They never did buy in those two circumstances and used BS excuses for the reasoning. The other times, very smooth.

I just clicked on your channel to see what was there. When I seen the thumbnail of your Ioniq 5 being sold to Carvana video it reminded me of something. Two days ago on FB marketplace for NE Arkansas some guy was trying to sell a used Ioniq 6 for $36,000. I thought WOW! That price has got to be insane. I don't know for sure it is but sounds like it to me. Anyway, I'm gonna subscribe and see what your channel is all about. Thanks for watching mine.

@@ArkansasEV I've mainly been playing around with robot lawnmowers and electric vehicles. The occasional tech review of something random. I'm going to a flying J today to do a charging test and setup autocharge+ on the Tesla

The Network Architect Channel mentioned you in his latest Pilot / Flying J update video.

So all together 8-9 cents per kWH? That's about half of the national average. I wonder if EV Darryl has the same type of plan? In Jonesboro, AR. the more you use the less they charge per kWh. Anything over 1,000 in a month is in the 3's but add another 1/2 cent or so for the fee and sales tax.

You're welcome. So far I have greatly enjoyed your channel.

I've always loved the color. But then again I'm color blind so what do I know haha.

That is exactly what I thought after getting home and looking at the video. However, I was thinking about with the Kia Niro when it can charge there. The Niro charging port is in the front and I bet it will reach. I don't think the Bolt will but I think the Niro has a good chance of being able to charge if I park to the side like you suggested.

@@scarco6194 Less than 48 hours. However one person commented it took more than a month to get his. Also, I have a full size Bat’Leth too.

@@mikeintampa250 No update needed. That was the original news from GM but they were wrong. Turns out very few 2019 and 2020’s will need an update. Even most of those should be fine.

Yeah thankfully. Tesla opening up is very exciting.

@@ArkansasEV Truth. Stay safe. Like the content.

You are right. The magic dock is the adapter to use or the new ChargePoint adapter. They have released a charging tower that works a lot like the magic dock. I don't know if they've installed any yet but they have it.

@@ArkansasEV That bottom latch should work as effectively(positively) as that top latch. Sadly we know that top latch tends to break off. I don't know why they don't make stuff out of this mythical stuff called "metal". I mean we aren't asking for Scottie's transparent aluminum here or anything to save the whales. Just crap that won't break. LOL

@@Longsnowsm Well said.

@@ArkansasEV In case you haven't stumbled on Trucked up EV's. Great channel for EV truck content, funny stuff, and out doing some wild stuff in Canada. He is on a Yukon adventure right now that is pretty good. The channel is Trucked Up EV's.

@@Longsnowsm Awesome! I've never heard of it but just subscribed. I will check it out. Thanks.

After I read this I had just posted my "Fail" video. I went back to my adaptor and pushed on the button and it worked flawlessly without even pushing hard. It worked four straight times then quit working. Six extremely hard push and holds and nothing. I think mine is just bad and works every once in a while.

I just deleted my 'fail' video because it's working now. As you said 'really hard.' I guess I did not know just how hard. Just now I pushed and when it seemed as though that's as far as it would go I pushed again and it went a little lower. To me, it felt almost like an extra push point. Now it seems to work fine so long as I know to push against what feels like the end of the wall sort of speak. This is not good for me. The motorcycle wreck that took my leg destroyed my left wrist and right thumb. Therefore, I have very little strength in either hand. Some CCS cords are very difficult for me to handle. This is not gonna be easy for me to use but not impossible either. I think my wife probably just was not sure how to disconnect it or how hard to push either. It's working now. Thanks for the tip.

Yeah I'm glad I got the A2Z adapter over the Tesla one. Also, I will probably charge the Bolt for the first time today at Tesla but I sure with the battery had less energy in it. Right now it's at 80% and I'm not a fan of driving just for the sake of driving. I could drive around till it needs more juice but doubt I will. Anyway, it'll still work but slow speed of course.

I have a full size one as well. It's beveled but blunted. I would love to have a real one. I mean full size and sharp. I'm not sure it'd be legal but I think it would be.

Someone I know called the parts department at GM and they said it could not be ordered at this time. It could be depends on where you are or could be that parts guy was wrong.

@@ArkansasEV I ordered through the myCadillac app, maybe that’s the difference.

It's arriving tomorrow so 2 days from order to delivery. I hate you had such a problem.

@@ArkansasEV Dang,!!! Sweet turn of events. Enjoy!

When he said use the cars screen to start a charge I was thinking 'is that even possible.' I've never done that. No matter. I downloaded the Tesla app a long time ago in preparation of using the magic dock at some point. I'll just use that. Plug and play with Tesla like Ford has would have been nice but I'm just happy to be a part of the club haha. Non EV enthusiast have no idea how exciting this is. They also don't understand the why it's important either.

I would be a lot cooler with this if the Bolt actually charged at a reasonable speed.

@@ArkansasEV It turns out no need for the dealer update for that app in the infotainment center. That should be a sigh of relief not having to mess with the dealer. Seems like a no brainer to just turn on the membership when planning a road trip and turn it off when not using it to get the discount. Normies don't even know they are surrounded by EV charging sites. It is a public perception problem. If the EV charging sites had big signs like gas stations and even price info it would help. That is likely what will happen with the Flying J/Pilot/Loves/TA locations as they will be the ones to normalize EV charging. Bucee's is making a huge splash also. Just saw Walter's update today. 123 new stalls reported online. However none of the Tesla numbers were in there. I see on X they have been busy opening new sites so that number is much bigger than that. I know Kia/Hyundai are coming soon to Tesla sites. I don't think you will have to wait long. This really opens up a lot of travel on main corredors. I saw The Average EV immediately cancelled his EA Pass+ membership. I think a lot of people will be doing that. I don't know if EA is going to survive. How Tesla can make a reliable dispenser and maintain them, and the rest are still fumble farting around is beyond me.

@@Longsnowsm Yeah other EV charging companies better get it in gear or they'll be left behind and maybe out of business.

@@Longsnowsm I would prefer GM be plug and charge like Tesla and Ford but it's not that big of a deal to open the app and click a couple of buttons. Well, not until I get someplace where I don't have cell service I guess. That probably won't happen but you never know. At chargepoint I just scan my watch. At EV GO (Flying J / Pilot) I have the Niro registered with plug and charge. I will do the same with the Bolt once I have the chance to visit one with it.

Thanks for the reminder. I have the Tesla app all set up but no payment method.

The end of the year is only 3 months away so you are more optimistic than me. In saying that I think the State of Charge guy said the same thing. I can't remember for sure but I heard that someplace else a day or two ago.

Also, I never knew about your channel but just subscribed. I'm really interested in watching the one about how to deal with anti EV propaganda. That is a constant for me. So many here in Arkansas absolutely cannot stand any positive EV news or stats. It literally drives them nuts.

Oh yeah Uncle Ted opened for them and kept bashing Bill Clinton hahahaha. I'd really rather they just sing and not worry about politics.

Of course haha.

Yeah it's exciting to see the expansion. I hope they are reliable. To me, that's more important than super fast speed. Of course both are important.

That was a good milkshake. Some parents were having a birthday party for their kid and ordered 14 of those shakes geeeezzz. That's about $250 after tax and tip. They have soooo much more money than I do surely haha.

@@ArkansasEV me as well. I am find cooling my heals if the damn thing works and is not ice'ed or whatever.

@@thenetworkarchitectchannel Also, I love your Pilot Flying J updates. I kind of wish you'd have the picture slide show going from newest pictures to latest but so not a big deal. I always X out when that starts because I've seen most of them so many times. I would not mind seeing the new pictures though.

Yes but I don't have an adaptor and for the Kia it will only work at destination chargers such as hotels and such or level 2. Ford & Rivian can use most Tesla Superchargers with a different adaptor. One built for the heat. GM is supposed to be able to use them very soon. Kia, who knows. We also have a Chevy Bolt so maybe GM will be very soon.

@@ArkansasEV J my son bought the Harley Live Wire. He commutes local should be a good fit for him.

@@jessecondit2211 Tell him to be safe. That's how I lost my leg in 2003. A lady ran a stop sign and I have a hard time with a prosthetic because it also completely destroyed my hip. It's the other people most times that are the problem.

You are right and the real issue here is 'drive what you want.' If you don't mind spending 10 minutes a week getting gas but despise the idea of waiting 30 minutes on the road every 3 hours or so then fine the solution is simple. Just don't get an EV and stick to gas. No problem. The problem is too many can't simply say 'not for me' and walk away. They must bash, reticule, mock and refuse to acknowledge truth in order to make their point that what you chose to drive is stupid and what they choose to drive is normal thinking.

@@ArkansasEV The neighbor forgets that I drive the EV most of the time. He will come by and say "did you see the price of gas?". Then go off on a rant because the price jumped 10 cents a gallon over night or something. Then the baffled look when I say no, I haven't really paid any attention to the price of gas. It really is the ACE in the hole for EV's not having to mess with it for most of the year except for those road trips. I have to keep reminding my neighbor no need for gas, no more oil changes, air filters, plugs, belts, hoses. All I have to do is fill the washer fluid, replace a cabin filter every once in a while, rotate the tires, possibly at some point replace the wiper blades. And most of those activities happen so infrequently that it seems like there is literally no maintenance with an EV. Just learn how to keep your battery healthy and you are set. I think we will just keep adding to the ranks of people who tried and EV and liked it. It will reach a tipping point where people see just enough of them on the road that they will suddenly consider one when they replace their car. Used prices are coming down to the point they can't be ignored. People can't say they can't afford one with used prices this reasonable and getting cheaper. Now we just need this infrastructure build to keep accelerating. Once people can see there are places to charge even though they won't need them that will make the decision much easier. That is the other question I get from the neighbor. But where you fill up? I say at home. But what if you are out and about, there aren't any chargers around here. I ask him how many miles you gonna drive today? 200? 250? 300? "Well no..." Then you will not need a charger. Then I point out the places in the general area he can get a charge. Until there are chargers in all these little towns around here then they will start to take it seriously. Sadly the current roadmap for chargers is still focused on main transportation corridors. So we are going to be a while yet.

@@Longsnowsm The only reason I know what gas prices are is because I need to know for my spreadsheet. I told Pam the other day "sometimes I wish I did not keep data on this car because it'd be nice to not have a clue what the price of gas is." Speaking of more chargers coming on line in the public I need to talk about this in a video. We went to Martin, TN (130 miles) I'm guessing 6 weeks ago and between there and Jonesboro, AR. there were zero L3 chargers. Now, there are 3 on that route. That happened in less than 2 months. My trip to Katy, TX this summer would have been impossible without using some L2's just 2 years ago, probably 18 months ago. The charging network is expanding rapidly but we still need a lot more.

@@ArkansasEV Walters updates are good, but don't really give you the feeling that it is moving fast enough, but I am finding that I see the CPO's are posting new site openings, and refreshed sites almost daily now on Twitter(X). That made me realize things really are moving along now on the transportation corridors and in the heavy use areas where they are over subscribed. Tesla is moving FAST. I was so worried when they fired a bunch of people in the charging side of the house. They apparently did hire some of those people back and they are installing new sites pretty quickly and are posting consistently on Twitter. We don't see the updates from Pilot/Flying J, but Walter has pointed out they are behind schedule, but moving quickly. I see Travel America(TA) is now starting to rumble. I have no idea what the heck Ionna is doing. They are a PR disaster so far. No social media, hardly any announcements other than big pie in the sky numbers and no stated movement. It is Mid Sept so no way they are getting anything in the ground in any serious numbers in 2024 as they stated. Once they get those main corridors filled in we need to see phase two as they start to branch off of the corridors into the rural areas. I think at that point people will start to relax and realize that electricity for transportation isn't going anywhere and that they can see chargers exist all over the place. Throw in some political crisis that makes fuel prices skyrocket or some sort of rationing and we will see people freak out. I hope they wait a little while. Used EV prices keep falling like a rock and if they do I might want to get an electric truck for the right price. I have no big compelling reason to do that since the truck only gets used for truck things so not often enough to justify spending a bunch of money, but if the price is right I might be lured to do it. Hopefully that will happen before some idiot does something to scare people... See how selfish I am? Want EV prices to collapse for my own selfish gain! ROFL

I can't imagine I would ever be able to afford an EV truck even used unless it's 5 years in the future with 150,000 miles on it haha. I'd love to have one and maybe I'll be wrong and have one someday. I'd really like to have a Maverick EV if they'd make one. Of course my wife would want a full size 4 door if we ever bought one.