Nice report. How would you deal with a big sisters of avelorn unit? On paper it's super good against your army. I like demons as a faction, however the armies look so small that makes me nervous.
@causebadguys9524Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! SOA are a pretty strong data sheet (speed, damage output). That said they are not tough at all. A couple magic missiles and they will be gone.
@danielmaguire30102 ай бұрын
how would you cope with fanatics?
@causebadguys95242 ай бұрын
Dwarfs have a rough time with fanatics, they don’t have very good answers. Rangers can be a good first turn screen for blits moves but mostly dwarfs have to just absorb the damage from fanatics.
@danielmaguire30102 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 cheers, i am so tempted to try this list
@danielmaguire30102 ай бұрын
dang it I almost have enough models for this list
@causebadguys95242 ай бұрын
It’s a fun list, thanks for the comment!
@danielmaguire30102 ай бұрын
@causebadguys9524 couldn't pick your brain on running slanessh daemons?
@causebadguys95242 ай бұрын
@@danielmaguire3010 for sure, what's the question? I have slaanesh daemons as well.
@danielmaguire30102 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 can you show me a list?
@kizaaaaaaaaaze2 ай бұрын
Nice battle report ! Just a question for the 2 gifts of nurgle "Spoilpox Scrivener" that you used and "Sloppity Bilepiper", it says in the describtion "Daemonic Heralds whose troop type is infantry only". Can you use them on your daemon prince like you did, or it was a mistake and you can mark only Daemonic Heralds of Nurgle ? Thanks in advance :)
@causebadguys95242 ай бұрын
Yep, this was a mistake on my part. There is a simple fix and that’s putting it on the bsb herald already in the list. Basically changes nothing. I appreciate the question and apologize for any confusion this may cause.
@xenith_inc96593 ай бұрын
Get them models painted!
@causebadguys95243 ай бұрын
I am, slowly, but it will happen 😀
@xenith_inc96593 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 ❤️
@DavideAllegra3 ай бұрын
Fantastic! I hope in other battle report
@causebadguys95243 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I like the daemons, more are incoming!
@DavideAllegra3 ай бұрын
When other battle report with the demons?
@causebadguys95243 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I have more stuff scheduled, keep an eye out!
@gabrielemirabella63313 ай бұрын
Great List! I have one question. Can use invocation of nehek on a unit that is locked in combat if the necromancer isn't engaged?
@causebadguys95243 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, as long as the character with the invocation isn’t in combat any unit can be targeted, whether it’s in combat or not. I appreciate the question.
@Amdor3 ай бұрын
Round base on Manglers? Looks odd :P
@causebadguys95243 ай бұрын
For sure, lol. But we want everyone to be able to play. I’m pretty sure the guy had his stuff modeled for AOS but started changing it over to old world and hadn’t changed the manglers just yet. I’m totally cool with them being that way it’s pretty easy to figure the facing. But does look a little strange on the table full of square bases.
@Tony40955 ай бұрын
Great video. I was glad (and a bit surprised) a Slayer army was an option in TOW, but I really wish they'd included the old Master Rune of Grimnir for its 12" BSB 5+ ward save against shooting & the upgraded slayer unit Brotherhood of Grimnir that had Str 4 for an extra 3 pts.
@causebadguys95245 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Yeah I was surprised and happy the slayer army is still around for game play. It’s one of my favorites.
Hahaha, I’ll get stuff painted. Thanks for the comment!
@Mini_veggies5 ай бұрын
Have you ever thought to paint a miniature to give us a bit of color in your reports. What accomplishment is winning tournaments if your army is the saddest in the room? Anyway thanks for your monocratic battles they are interesting to listen.
@causebadguys95245 ай бұрын
Hahaha, thanks so much for the comment. I am working on getting stuff painted. I am a gamer over a hobbyist but I still want things to be painted. Thanks again!
@touchthesky6325 ай бұрын
sadly the audio is too poor :(
@causebadguys95245 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, I’ll try to do better next time 😑
@michaelf.73395 ай бұрын
Curious why you did not run a BSB, as empire I always regarded that as super important.
@causebadguys95245 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the question! The army design I did was a war machine gun line with a counter punch (cavalry). With this style of list the bsb isn’t as important as raw damage so I took a second lvl 4 wizard instead. Thanks again!
@ja37d-345 ай бұрын
Ah da stunties! Fun skumgrods! have good loot - ie ale.. ;)
@causebadguys95245 ай бұрын
Thanks! Hahaha, nice!
@jacobmacke39575 ай бұрын
Love you this style of report. Too many channels post "reports" that are just two hour videos of the battle and not summaries at all.
@causebadguys95245 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@qystein6 ай бұрын
Well done, with all the different armies you have brought to different tournaments. I just got really curious, how would the army lists you have used (VC, empire, orc, and daemons) do against each other? If you get bored, I would love to hear your thoughts comparing them. Or even better playing them against each other.
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I am working on a state of the meta video and in it I will try to cover where I think each of my armies is at! Them playing each other is a good idea, I’ll keep that in mind for maybe future stuff. Thanks again!
@GilthosDrakoniss6 ай бұрын
😊
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thank you
@1970samo6 ай бұрын
Vamps paint job looks good,all look the same lol
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
lol, thanks! I am working on them, even now.
@aubreygarcia67986 ай бұрын
Hi I watched your orc and goblin army video and I’m just curious do I need the exact character leaders? I would love to start my own old world army
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment! What army are you looking at collecting? The only compulsory list building requirement for characters is you must have a minimum of one character as you must have a general for your army. Some characters unlock list building potential, some characters cast magic, some characters have special abilities. Which to choose all depends on what you want to accomplish on the tabletop. It can also be as simple as what you think looks cool.
@aubreygarcia67986 ай бұрын
Oh the orc and goblin tribes sorry for not being pacific you had an age of Sigmar black orc big boss from the iron jaws do I need that or any other big boss orc?
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
No problem at all! Orcs and goblins are great. Any model will work being a character, you just want for your opponent to be able to tell the difference between a standard line infantry model and who’s your characters. Thanks again!
@djboristo6 ай бұрын
I love that you built lists and talked about how they work. Let us know if you play some games with them. Looking forward to a battle report.
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! The slayers do look really cool and I’m leaning towards getting the army together sooner rather than later.
@MrPaxy696 ай бұрын
I thought of your style taking on the slayers as soon as I saw that you could do the whole army as them. Can’t wait to see them at an event!
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I need quite a bit more models to be able to run them but I think I will end up getting them. They look like a ton of fun, thanks again!
@oukt2376 ай бұрын
Very good batrep and explanations of your list!
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Mrpanzonebontempone6 ай бұрын
Do you used to play also 6 and 7 edition? I love some rules and the army list of Tow but the random charge, the possibility to misure everytime and the flat magic rules are bringing me down. I thibk it lacs of tactical deep and player skills are not so important anymore.
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
I have played fantasy since 3rd edition. I grew up playing GW games both fantasy and 40K. Every edition has had strengths and weaknesses. Don’t get stuck on specifics you don’t like, the game will always change. Celebrate the game for what it is currently. I appreciate the comments and look forward to interacting more.
@Mrpanzonebontempone6 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 you are right. I agree! do you have a discord server for the channel?
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
I don’t have one just yet but have plans to set one up. Stay tuned for that channel growth benchmarks! I appreciate the comments!
@Mrpanzonebontempone6 ай бұрын
Great br! Love the pictures and the focus on important tactical movements. The fact that you were able to win 4 tournaments with 4 different armies leaves me amazed and confused.
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate the comments!
@Slapdab6 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the explanation of each tactical decision. Great work.
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@thebigcommon19676 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this. Loved the format!
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@joha59236 ай бұрын
Nice Batrep! I liked that you included more fotos of the individual battles compared to your older Vid's ( at least it felt like that). Would love a rep with a slaanesh heavy list, as iam going to play a Slaanesh mono army in an upcoming Tournament. Keep up the good work!
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I did try to take more pictures for this video! Thanks for noticing. It can be hard to remember to take pictures when you’re playing in a tournament. I have a full slaanesh army, I will put a batrep on the list of videos! Thanks again!
@cgmgp6 ай бұрын
If I´m not wrong, Spoilpox Scrivenger is only for Heralds on foot. Nice report anyway!
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! You are correct, for me to fix the list I need to swap the spoilpox and trappings, prince and herald. My mistake, thanks again for the correction, I thought it was just infantry as a restriction.
@monsterhelmet486 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524trappings would then allow him not to cast spells anymore
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
@@monsterhelmet48the prince starts with light armor so can wear armor and cast
@UrsineWrath5 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 Sort of- it's the Chaos Armour rule that explicitly lets him cast. Loved the video by the way!
@causebadguys95245 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@margrimgaming2746 ай бұрын
Oof, the misuse of Dragons.
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
I was surprised as well. I talked with both opponents about the use of them after each game to figure out their reasoning and talked strategy. Thanks for the comment!
@HeresyProducktionz6 ай бұрын
Nice batrep I enjoyed that. I hear rumours that the success of TOW may mean they are going to support the legacy armies. That could be good for your daemons down the road.
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Yeah, I’m hoping the legacy armies get support like arcane journals in the future.
@davideallegra80226 ай бұрын
When looking at the lists I noticed that the dragon prince of the high ones has about 125 points of magic items from what is written, have you noticed?
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! From what I can see the high elf prince on dragon has 90 points (giant blade, TOP, dragon helm, seed of rebirth) of magical equipment. Is this the model/entry you are referring to? Thanks again for the view and comment!
@davideallegra80226 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 I confused the giant blade with the ogre blade. I apologize
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
@@davideallegra8022no problem at all! Questions are always welcome. Thanks again!
@adamjeffries61737 ай бұрын
Good report, do you have an army list link?
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m unsure what you mean by link? Would it be a connection to old world builder? I appreciate the comment!
@DownUnderWarboss7 ай бұрын
Why haven't you painted your models?
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I’ve always been into the gaming side of the hobby but I’m trying to get stuff painted. Thank you again! Cheers!
@Yarok0257 ай бұрын
Hello! Thanks for sharing your game and tips! When you says you can make your torpedo move with elementalism, are youtalking about Travel Mystical Pathway spell? It says it can target unit that havn't moved yet and that a targeted unit can't move after the spell for me your move is not possible like you do with Arcane urgency, do I miss something?
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
Hello and thank you! With the difference between arcane urgency and travel mystical pathway you are absolutely correct, arcane urgency the unit would be able to move further. I was trying to say you could do something similar but not as well with elementalism. Elementalism still has benefits though as it has plague of rust which is a very good hex. All depends on what you want from your caster.
@DarkhorseOldWorlders7 ай бұрын
You played Fanatics as dealing 2 damage per wound??! 😳
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
Nope
@DarkhorseOldWorlders7 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 why is there a tournament review saying you did?
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
I’m not sure why my first opponent thought I did. I can’t speak for him. Simply put, I’ve never played fanatics as 2 damage. Please look at the other comments to see my explanation.
@liangweihao79327 ай бұрын
U can't counter charge warhounds cos they are war beasts.
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
You are correct, I got counter charge wrong when I first started playing old world. I appreciate the comment! Thanks!
@Mrpanzonebontempone7 ай бұрын
Wonderfull report! I love your style and the list is really good.
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Mrpanzonebontempone7 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 i wuold love to see a list without screams, more an horde army with knights and grave guards as hammer units
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
I want to do just that! Show everyone that you don’t need a scream list to win with VC. I think I’ll still have a scream or two just from characters but run 2 units of blood knights.
@Mrpanzonebontempone7 ай бұрын
I will try them on s tournament sunday. Is escalation: 1500 the first game than 1750 and 2000. I will bring a Mortis and one banshee just in the last match. I want to try skeleton warriors instead of grave guards to add wolfes and ghouls. I hope buff and debuff will be enough to win melee
@causebadguys95247 ай бұрын
Nice! Best of luck! Skeletons will be punching up almost all the time. Take dark magic for ‘word of pain’ & ‘battle lust’ it will help a lot.
@kerel9958 ай бұрын
Any reason for not going with warboss on boar and sticking him into regiment? +1 save for 16 points
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
If he’s a different unit type (cavalry vs infantry) he doesn’t get “look out sir” or unit protection so he could be targeted by cannons and the like.
@kerel9958 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 does he for sure?
@kerel9958 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 nothing under look out sir about it
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
I’m looking through the book and I can’t find it but I’m pretty sure I read it somewhere. I’ll keep looking.
@kerel9957 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524 206 and 209
@rathstar8 ай бұрын
Great tournament overview, the pictures combined with your narrative made it easy to know how the battles went.
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jeffreybedwell10508 ай бұрын
Nice report, I’m impressed by how well the 20 strong blocks of NG went, I always thought of them as through away units but your ones seemed to survive.
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Thanks! They are not strong for sure but can still go toe to toe with basic troops like men at arms. 20 is just so they can’t get blown away with one shooting phase or one round of combat.
@musictheorywizard47998 ай бұрын
What do you mean by initial hits and then push through hits with fanatics at 49 minutes. Are you releasing them 3 inches from your ng unit and then hitting them on your 2d6 hit and counting that as two strikes? Im thinkin thats only one batch of hits.. thx again
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question! The initial hits are from the grail knights charging and landing on the 2 fanatics then the push through hits are when I move the fanatics through them. The grail knights took 4d6 hits in total from 2 fanatics. I hope this helps answering your question. I did the same thing to the questing knights but with only 1 fanatics.
@musictheorywizard47998 ай бұрын
So they charged through the fanatics took hits and then you random moved through them after . So on the charge the fanatics stayed I front of the unit and then you used your controlled direction random movement to re hit them? Do I have that right?
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Yep, that’s correct!
@Mrpanzonebontempone8 ай бұрын
I run a similar list but with a grand master with ogre blade. I think the immune to psicology is a must in an empire list.
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
I was going back and forth with the grand master and the general of the empire. I needed to save some points so went with the general but I totally agree that the grand master is great and a step up. Thanks!
@Mrpanzonebontempone8 ай бұрын
Thank to you! I love your br and hate you for winning a tournament with the empire. A dream for me :D
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Thanks! I’ll keep the BR coming! lol, empire is an up hill battle for sure but totally doable! Keep the dream alive, faith, steel and gun powder!
@Mrpanzonebontempone8 ай бұрын
I love your battle reports man! I have seen you always try to put two big mages but here we play 1999 to avoid it in most armies.
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Thanks! 2 mages is powerful, their force multiplier can be nuts. So I get the limitation.
@robbyv1018 ай бұрын
Great list (and happy to hear you had fun)! How would you deal with flying units and mounted scouts that could get (or even start) behind your lines pretty quickly?
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Thanks! Great question. All the cavalry has counter charge and the wizards have 2 fire balls. Behind, you never allow (deploy close enough to the edge they can’t deploy). In the last game vs TK I had to deal with 2x 8 man units of scouting horse archers. Fire ball and a last second charge did them in. I still lost a cannon to them but not everything is perfect. Thanks again!
@nicolasbouchet13088 ай бұрын
Randomly saw your video just after watching a video on the Epic Flail channel where your Round 1 Opponent was a guest. It sounds like you were playing fanatics as multiple wounds 2? I dont know if you know each other and he'd have reached out to you, but yeah their attacks "only" deal 1 wound each, and they're already pretty good as is :)
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Fanatics only deal one wound on hits for sure. Not sure where this misunderstanding is coming from. Thanks for the heads up. Fanatics would be broken at multi wound 2.
@paulnorth65408 ай бұрын
You absolute tickler. You played it as 2 damage and you know it pal 🥴
@HamSandwich6828 ай бұрын
'Not sure where this misunderstanding is coming from' maybe its you playing them as D2....
@UltraMeanMarines8 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524you. The misunderstanding came from you. You said it was 2 damage. You.
@adaml29108 ай бұрын
@@paulnorth6540 What are you talking about, fanatics do 2 damage vs Pegasus knights its literally in the rule book.
@divafever97548 ай бұрын
Disgusting! I can't believe that you have the gall to publicly display your TOTALLY grey pile of shame. I only wish that I could hit the dislike button more then once.
@Slapdab8 ай бұрын
I’d enjoy another daemons video. Are they tournament viable?
@causebadguys95248 ай бұрын
Thanks! They are the next army I want to take to a tournament, I am currently brainstorming a list. The tournament is in July so I have some time but this one I want the army to be fully painted. I have the models to do any of the 4 gods and I’m not sure which one I think is best.
@Slapdab6 ай бұрын
@@causebadguys9524thanks for delivering!
@causebadguys95246 ай бұрын
@@Slapdabfor sure! Thanks for the comments and views!