Thank you Dr. Litwa! Love all the work over on the blog as well!
@gritch667 сағат бұрын
Interesting i know nothing about valentinus but i like the spiritual nature. May be he didn't fit in the complex roman constraints ireneus delt with. I suppose he is inspired by some more ancient traditions?
@marktwain523221 сағат бұрын
Outstanding as usual! Very much appreciated!
@SobekLOTFC22 сағат бұрын
Keep up the exceptional work, Dr Litwa 👏
@m.davidlitwa19 сағат бұрын
You too!
@glenncbjonesКүн бұрын
Hey Dr. L., I think “ET” put it quite succinctly when he said.. “Ouch!” Absolutely one of your best, Doctor Litwa, and, as always (for those with ears to hear!) you set a pretty high bar! Fun fact! On my end, at about 15:20, an especially mouth-breathingly inane giant-grilled pickup truck commercial inserted itself, declaring, “Knowledge is put to the test!” Obviously, there are no coincidences, twas ever thus, and you can’t make this offal up! Keep bringin’ it Doc, you da man… any friend of gnosis is a friend of mine! - Namaste! Glenn Jones
@bignoob1790Күн бұрын
Gnosticism feels like Buddhism with extra steps. Just realized that Robin hood is gnostic
@danielhopkins296Күн бұрын
Valentinus' God was named "Bythos", as Hebrew 'batah' and 'patah' have the meanings of "open" and "faith" , Sanskrit 'budha', bedides meaning "awake", also means "open". The name of the Egyptian god Ptah is oft etymologized from Hebrew "batah", "open". Hegesippus records of the early Christians:- "In every city that prevails which the Law, the Lord, and the Prophets enjoin." Aka the Buddha , dharma (law) and the Sangha (prophets)
@glenncbjonesКүн бұрын
Thanks Daniel! Somebody certainly didn’t phone in their “holy homework!” Namaste, Sri Hopkins…
@peterhook2258Күн бұрын
Wow , isn't it awesome to get the truth from history with facts and logical hypothesis instead of being led by biased apologetics...wow. ty bro
@FlaviusBrosephusКүн бұрын
Dr. Litwa... Do you plan to have an audiobook version of Found Christianities one day? I am excited about Ieusus Deus!
@m.davidlitwaКүн бұрын
No. The publisher won’t give me the rights. Send your complaints to TNT ClarkBloomsbury.
@m.davidlitwaКүн бұрын
No. The publisher won’t give me the rights. Send your complaints to TNT ClarkBloomsbury.
@michelec2848Күн бұрын
I think Judaism was used to bastardize Christianity and that it's not the other way around. We see with Marcion that the OT was never supposed to be a part of things. In deu thirty two verses 8 to 9 we see El Elyon gave Yahweh, his son, a land without a people, as his portion of inheritance. So we see here that this is not the true Most High, the God that Jesus introduced later in the text. He goes on to say, as does John, that know one had ever seen or heard God. (John one verse 18 and five verse 37.). Deu "When Elyon gave the nations as an inheritance, when he separated the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God (bny 'l[hym]). For Yahweh's portion was his people; Jacob was the lot of his inheritance.” The true Jesus, of the 2 that are in the canon, is literally rescuing people from Yahweh bc he used the Israelites to kill, steal and destroy as a means for him to gain territories and allegiance. He came to set these captives free. But, now, bc of the confusion that the Romans introduced into the text, all three Abrahamic religions worship the false demigod, Yahweh. Regards.
@michelec2848Күн бұрын
The canon text as we have it contains two gods, two gospels and two Jesuses. We know them by their fruit.
@YuTg-or8rcКүн бұрын
Great lecture but im skeptical of anything greek claiming to be Christian. Can't trust a Greek after they killed jesus
@michelec2848Күн бұрын
When the works were written is the key to everything and to date remains unprovable. The gnostics came first and hold the keys to Truth. It's just a matter of time bf it's proven. May everything in the darkness come to the light in a timely fashion.
@FraterRCКүн бұрын
Very cool and just in time for lunch!
@theonetruetimКүн бұрын
Dr Litwa is a Rock Star!
@FraterRCКүн бұрын
FACTS!
@Dr.Bitterbrains-xf9prКүн бұрын
I don't have much respect for scholars but I do have a lot of respect for Mr.Litwa his work is dynamic and has a great carry over into many subjects with depth
@glenncbjonesКүн бұрын
Hey Doc, I took my beauty sleep meds a little early tonight (med nurse musta had a heavy date!)… I’m feeling very awfully Asclepius (but don’t I look wonderful?)… but Hermès’ Lament sounds like a great wake up call? - Thanks Dr.L
@jesperandersson8892 күн бұрын
I am happy happy happy to remain !!!
@genghisgalahad84652 күн бұрын
Lament of Hermes!! Asclepius!! Hermetic wisdom!! 🎉 📜 📖 📚
@genghisgalahad84652 күн бұрын
Yes!! 🌞 🌅 & 🎉 scarab 🙏!!
@genghisgalahad84652 күн бұрын
I could buy this as a book!🎙 📖 📚 🌌 🙏 ! The scarab!
@triple999fruitful3 күн бұрын
Very beautiful ❤
@stancastan4 күн бұрын
Thank you for all that you do, Doc!
@johnnewton80174 күн бұрын
Fascinating!
@RamomarNY5 күн бұрын
Your assessment is correct, it’s not about the gold, wood or stone it’s the actual process to manifest and bring into being that matters. I’ve crafted modern ka statues for the divinity to embody and currently working on my gold burial mask and sarcophagus. In the end you learn creating these objects are letting you get a glimpse of the process of creation itself so you can become one with the creator after death. This human life practice is a form of rehearsal before the main event so your life is dedicated to practicing and preparing yourself for the grand finale.
@nightshadegatito6 күн бұрын
Glad to see someone undoing some of the hysteria or misinfo arround other mystic beliefs; I recently ran into the Hermetica and other things, and believe as you say that they are not incompatible with Christian faith, they are just other ways of reaching spiritual goals
@enzocompanbadillo53655 күн бұрын
Doctor Justin Sledge from the Esoterica Channel even links Catholic Lithurgy and Eucharistic with ancient hellenistic Theurgic practices
@cathleen17176 күн бұрын
Jesus the Roman christ or Yahusha the Hebrew Messiah
@clinthelms7 күн бұрын
Just because there are apologists that are desperate for the gospels to be dated to c. 70, that doesn't mean that an athiest can't believe they were written then. Dating the gospels early doesn't mean you have to believe "eye witnesses" wrote them. It also doesn't mean you have to be a Christian.
@m.davidlitwa6 күн бұрын
Very true. But let’s talk about facts and evidence.
@clinthelms6 күн бұрын
@@m.davidlitwa Just a suggestion to not focus on apologists while you are trying to make a historical point. We all know they aren't capable of making rational arguments when it comes to dating.
@josephpercy15587 күн бұрын
When describing causal affinities, fractal patterns easily come to mind here. Are there some responsible speculations as to what mechanisms were utilized by telestic figures to access these causal links?
@m.davidlitwa7 күн бұрын
Great question! Catch me over at patreon.com/mdavidlitwa
@genghisgalahad84657 күн бұрын
Dr Litwa, Wow!! This episode is breathtaking absolutely! And wonderfully delivered! Practically a course in Making Gods and truly enlivening! 🙏 🌌
@Seekandtune7 күн бұрын
Dr Litwa, are you familiar with Julian Jayne's theory in Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind? If so what are your thoughts?
@m.davidlitwa7 күн бұрын
I’m not. But feel free to inform me
@kevincrady28317 күн бұрын
All this makes me wonder what would happen if a modern Theurgist created a humanoid robot designed to be a vessel/home for a god...
@PentaRaus5 күн бұрын
Bingo! A God Incarnate just not biological.
@theobolt2507 күн бұрын
Mutatis mutandis, de Spirit of the Most High came into the body, not of a statue, but a human. Christ was... born... baptised... anointed...
@jeffreywilliams92997 күн бұрын
So?
@josephpercy15587 күн бұрын
@theobolt250 - Yes, but one is supposed to imitate Christ's nature, which is a departure from the theurgic understanding.
@theleasthigh7 күн бұрын
Ah, so thats why I decorate a statue with gold in front of a mirror and burn incense. I just figured the things of this world could serve to keep me grounded and down to earth. 😅
@FlaviusBrosephus7 күн бұрын
Dr. Litwa - Do you ever plan to write a book that synthesizes all of your knowledge into a holistic theory of Christian origins? I beg that you consider it one day. Like... how do we go from a historical Jesus to all of these diverse groups in such a short period of time???
@theleasthigh7 күн бұрын
Id love a book on things his readers have brought to his attention.
@Darisiabgal75737 күн бұрын
Quick answer, they were mystics teaching other mystics. The Jerusalem group lost control in 62 CE and the movement, already heading different directions fractured and fell apart. While makes it seem that they reconciled, it’s clear many groups did not, those that did represented a spectrum of radiating belief.
@m.davidlitwa7 күн бұрын
Well… with continued support from you and others like you I can write books
@rgoldman238 күн бұрын
That gold looks delicious and shiny
@TheDanEdwards8 күн бұрын
Thanks for this, and while listening some light-bulbs went off in my head. Such as, in Romans 1.22-23 where Paul talks about idols, and now I think I have a better understanding of what his audience would have been thinking when they read this. Question is how much Paul believed the Hermetic ideas himself.
@m.davidlitwa7 күн бұрын
Great question.
8 күн бұрын
Human beings are born into a parental context. It is all we know. Our reality is determined by our parents. Everything comes from our parents. Who also protect our great vulnerability. So don't we then project this parental context and psychology onto everything which we don't understand and fear. And so we create Parental Deities to explain everything we don't comprehend. And to protect us from our great vulnerability. Didn't Yahweh the great Parental Deity of all of the Abrahamic religions begin as a Storm God? As a Parental Deity who controlled the angry weather? Isn't this why all Parental Deity religions are all based on the manipulation and masturbation of infantile and childhood attachment? Which is a very powerful neurological drive. Life just feels easier with parents to protect us from our great vulnerability and provide for us and listen to our great and desperate and impossible problems. Parental Deity religion is just Art. Literature, Poetry, Music, Architecture, Painting, Sculpture, Theatre, Costume, Jewelry, Hats and Shoes. If you take all the Art away there is absolutely nothing left. Except affect manipulation and masturbation. Or what Dr. Carl Gustav Jung M.D. The greatest psychiatrist of the 2Oth century. Called "Infantile Parental Archetypes." And it is all just Dopamine. Religion is just Dopamine. Like Music and Sex and Alcohol and Hollywood. Dopamine makes us feel loved. Dopamine makes us feel confident. Dopamine makes us feel good. Which is why it can be so addictive. And if the Jews who wrote the texts of the so-called Bible were alive today? They would all be working in Hollywood. The land of Dopamine.💙
8 күн бұрын
The Christian Trinity which is barely Biblical should be understood to symbolize the union of the Flavians and the Alexanders and the Pisos. The three Roman dynasties which created the Parental Deity religion now known as Christianity. Ever notice how the narrator of the writings attributed to Saul/Paul and those of Josephus have a psychological similarity? They both started out on one side and then converted to the other. They are both literary conversion personas. Epistolary Fiction was extremely popular in the ancient Greco-Roman world. As was Midrash in the ancient Jewish world. And Emperor Vespasian was a big believer in propaganda. If the Flavians were capable of creating something like the Roman Coliseum. Just think what they might be capable of had they wanted to create a new parental deity religion? Which the ancient world had been doing for quite a long time. When the Greeks conquered Kemet which they called Egypt. They created a hybrid parental deity in order to combine Egyptian mythology with Greek mythology. So they combined the Egyptian God Thoth with the Greek God Hermes. They called him Hermes Trismegistus III. Which means… “The Thrice Great.” He was famous for triumphing over the season of death. Which is what the number 3 almost always symbolizes in World Mythology. Isn't this what the Flavian Dynasty did after conquering the Jews? Didn't they create a new hybrid form of Greco-Roman Judaism? To integrate Jewish mythology with Greco-Roman mythology? Calling him… “Jesus The Christ.” Who is also famous for triumphing over the season of death. As represented by… “The Trinity.” Again the sacred number 3. Isn't this a better explanation for the origins of Christianity rather than Harry Houdini magic? Wasn't Paul secretly working for the Flavian Dynasty? Weren't all of the original Roman Catholic Saints' members of the Flavian Dynasty? Weren't all of the original symbols used by the earliest Christians identical to those of the Flavian Dynasty? And wasn't the earliest iconographic image of Jesus The Christ, in a catacomb, under the city of Rome, which was owned by a Flavian Princess? Weren't all of the original Jesus cult texts produced under the oversight of the Flavian Dynasty? Didn't the Flavian Dynasty posses the only remaining copy of the Hebrew Tanakh other than the Greek Septuagint translation? Isn't there Flavian typology in the Gospels? Weren't the canonical texts all back dated like the historical fiction of Gone With The Wind? Which was written in the 193O's but back-dated to the 185O's and 186O's. Wasn't Emperor Vespasian known as the Jewish Messiah? Wasn’t Pope Clement of Rome a Flavian? Wasn't Josephus a temple whore for the Flavian Dynasty? Just like Tacitus. Weren't the Flavian’s, as well as Paul, descended from King Herod? There was no separation of Church and State in the Roman Empire. And Christianity is clearly a Greco-Roman hybrid form of Judaism created by the Flavian Dynasty. As an attempt to adapt, pacify, and integrate the rebellious and defiant Jews into the rest of the Greco-Roman Empire. Just like the Greeks created Hermes Trismegistus III to integrate Egyptian mythology with Greek mythology. Then finally Neo-Flavian Constantine began the process to make the Flavian family religion to be the official religion of the entire Roman Empire. In order to consolidate power in his fractured Empire. As well as to generate revenue for his depleted treasury. And then Eusebius edited and rewrote the history of the previous 3OO years. Destroying all contradictory evidence. Such as all of the non-canonical Jesus cult texts. It isn't history it is all simply Greco-Roman mythopoetic literature. Today it is known as Historical Fiction. “What profit hath not this fable of Christ brought us.” Pope Leo X 💙
@TheDanEdwards8 күн бұрын
Just no on the Roman provenance nuttery.
@howaboutataste8 күн бұрын
King of Tyre is OT
@spankflaps13658 күн бұрын
Strabo and Pausanias wrote about Phidias’ Zeus statue at Olympia. It was perceived more of a god than other statues, because it was reputedly the best.
@DrLinny8 күн бұрын
Been waiting on this book for so long! Thanks Dr Litwa
@kevinmcdonald65608 күн бұрын
if statues are optional embodiments for divine spirits, could 1 god be embodied in multiple statues at the same time across different locations?
@m.davidlitwa8 күн бұрын
I believe so
@gunkwretch36976 күн бұрын
the explanation for some Theurgists,w as that a statue is like a candle or lamp, which is lit by the flame of the god, which itself is never diminished in lighting it. The different "symbola" of the statue determined the image of the daimon who might inhabit it. See Iamblichus On the Mysteries for a fuller explanation.
@kevinmcdonald65606 күн бұрын
@@gunkwretch3697 that's a great answer, do you have the section of iamblichus to narrow down my search? am a big fan of plotinus, but only know indirect bits about iamblichus
@Endemion018 күн бұрын
This gave a great reminder, and much articulate. Thank you ❤️
@RebeccaS12318 күн бұрын
While I think you're correct about the different perspectives of the two gospels, I'm not convinced that it is evidence for Marcion's version being the earlier one. It makes sense to me that later editors would try to smooth out these kinds of contradictions, and especially in Marcion's case I could see him wanting to streamline the gospel to match his teaching that favours the god of mercy over the god of justice. If it was just these weird Lukan passages, like about buying swords, then I could maybe accept that they are post-Marcion additions, but considering that Marcion is also lacking sections like the cutting of the slave's ear and the driving out of those selling in the temple that are present in Mark, it seems more plausible to me that Marcion is simply deleting from Luke than that Marcion is deleting from Mark and then Luke re-adding from that same source. I'm also unsure about reading the sword-buying section as pro-soldier. Certainly Luke does take that perspective in other places, but it seems strange to me that a story about one who is "counted among the lawless" buying swords to use against the regime could be taken as supportive of Roman soldiers, who are more likely to be killing outlaws than acting like them.
@m.davidlitwa8 күн бұрын
Thanks. That’s a rosy picture of soldiers. And the idea that Marcion deletes is an unproven heresiological assumption