Jivan Sunder

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@gundula285714 5 ай бұрын

Wonderful. Thank you.

@luteriorodrigus4738 5 ай бұрын

congratulations

@alejandromanueljodar9584 7 ай бұрын

FANTASTICO

@hereissadhu 8 ай бұрын

The magic still there after so many years.

@JivanSunder 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the music (Still using it in my workshops!)

@donnasherwood283 9 ай бұрын

out of focus how pretentious

@JivanSunder 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your totally unnecessary comment.... Do you feel better now?!

@donnasherwood283 9 ай бұрын

@@JivanSunderyou are welcome

@JivanSunder 9 ай бұрын

@@donnasherwood283You're not!😂

@donnasherwood283 9 ай бұрын

@@JivanSunderI am not what ?

@JivanSunder 9 ай бұрын

Welcome!😂

@sergiorondeli6695 10 ай бұрын

Magnífico, Gurdjieff love

@Eris123451 Жыл бұрын

When you read about this you form an impression that's quite different to what you experience when you see it actually being performed.

@thegreatdivinie 2 ай бұрын

Try watching some of the other dances, also there are dances in Meetings with Remarkable Men.

@mariaximenamolinaandrade1268 Жыл бұрын

Muchas Gracias por compartir 🇨🇱

@adrianafloreshinojos2639 Жыл бұрын

Spectacular! Thank you for sharing Jivan

@OrteOliv56 Жыл бұрын

En Estados Unidos habra una escuela que ensene las danzas, creo que seria muy beneficioso para mi salud fisica, y alma.

@ayalaprajs5123 Жыл бұрын

who wrote this music?

@donnasherwood283 10 ай бұрын

thomas de hartman likely i have several original recording

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

So that’s how it’s done! Thanks!

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

Form and sequence are so clear in these that emotion and meaning began to emerge, even in dunces like me

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

Powerful

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

Good sampling. Especially interesting staging.

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

Nice sampling. Makes me wish I could see the whole program.

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

Very beautiful

@johnferry7778 Жыл бұрын

First person here..Mmm..sounds kinda echoey..hello..o..o..o..o. I very much like this, iterative and evolving, fascinating calming and cryptic. I remember trying to to read Beelzebubs tales to his grandson when I was in my early twenties(in the early nineteen eighties) it was a bit beyond me then and too long. I make electronic music for a hobby now, perhaps I’ll try to match this film to some of my stuff (just for my own interest). Thank you for posting this Jivan. Hello from England 5.15 am Thursday 25 may 2023.

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

Wow! So complex! And I’d swear I feel that energy coming through coming through despite use of an electronic screen and passage of time since the performance.

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

I like it either way. I know how difficult it is to learn these dances

@whitmosa Жыл бұрын

I would love to know if the performers are fourth way workers or Professional or amateur dancers

@JivanSunder Жыл бұрын

They are neither; they are not 4th Way workers, and they are certainly not professional dancers; they are simply long-time meditators who are interested in Gurdjieff Movements - as am I, their teacher

@hayqueecharlos Жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@krizechow8523 2 жыл бұрын

Hymn to the sun

@rdillibabu4516 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@silviobonifaciodasilva7046 2 жыл бұрын

Somente que pratica esses movimentos sente algo interno emocionante e diferente de tudo o que se passa nessa vida ordinária

@AstarteRap 11 ай бұрын

The OA

@ayalaprajs5123 2 жыл бұрын

when and where was that filmed?

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

In Osho Commune in Pune, India, in 2002, if I remember correctly

@ayalaprajs5123 2 жыл бұрын

@@JivanSunder is this a mouvement created by Osho or Gurdjieff?

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

@@ayalaprajs5123 it's a Movement from Gurdjieff

@ayalaprajs5123 2 жыл бұрын

@@JivanSunder are you sure? it is a very very beautiful mouvement but I never saw it in the Gurdjieff foundations classes any where. ..Very beautiful indeed.

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

@@ayalaprajs5123 Well, I have the notes for the Movement in a set of notes which may originally come from Wim van Dulleman, I don't really know.....; anyway, this Movement certainly comes from a Gurdjieff lineage - there's at least one other Movement in that set of notes, which people have also questioned whether it is originally from Gurdjieff - it is called in that set of notes, 'The Moving Ho Ya', - it's done to the same music as Ho Ya, but is a totally different Movement! I guess there are several Movements which are not originally created by Gurdjieff, but which are practised these days as 'Gurdjieff Movements'. Of course, Assyrian Women Mourners is another one whose origin is 'suspect', in the sense that it is not thought to be an actual Movement created by Gurdjieff - yet it is practised by many groups the world over.

@williamdunlap5444 2 жыл бұрын

I think I worked with you in Corfu in 2004. Good to know you are still alive. Just working to pay off my house and retire some day. Bought a house in Idaho where my wife is. Hoping to move there early next year. Took up the Bass Guitar and am getting better. Hope to see you some day.

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

I think it was around 2017, not 2004 - in the workshop led by Deborah and Avrom?

@Eva-iy6vy 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@hilliar10 2 жыл бұрын

These are not harmonic body celestial movements,,, but correspond to the rigid beliefs who invented them I supoose. Nobody is “SMILING”…

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

😄"Nobody is smiling??!!"- are you serious?!

@rossboucher3413 2 жыл бұрын

What does it do?

@aparecidaleontina9515 2 жыл бұрын

Muito bom

@李怡妹 2 жыл бұрын

Miss you and the practice

@nylaia 2 жыл бұрын

Buongiorno… who was the teacher for this choreography? Spassiba l’attention toujours

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

This is basically how Gurdjieff designed the Movement

@nylaia 2 жыл бұрын

@@JivanSunder wowwwww have you met Mr Gurdjieff …? When ? Where ?? That interés mi muchísimo. Gracias 🙏

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

@@nylaia No,no, Gurdjieff died before I was born!

@nylaia 2 жыл бұрын

@@JivanSunder so how do you know that the choreography was designed by him to be like such ? Dankeschön l’attention toujours

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

@@nylaia Because I have Movements Notes for this Movement

@croissants1280 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. Is it possible to list the movements performed here? Thanks.

@loranikolova8476 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Finally, after 20 years I can see this performance, and I remember the experience. And oh, miracle now for almost 20 years later, we will perform it again in front of another audience in another hall. How lucky we are ! Thank you Jivan and Prem!

@lajollajoe 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Jivan! 😃

@JivanSunder 2 жыл бұрын

Thx Peter, that was a long time ago! (But it's even longer that I last saw you!)

@tonoespinoza8615 3 жыл бұрын

Gracias

@jorgeguimaraes4216 3 жыл бұрын

Jorge Guimarães- Brasil

@shirleychen4816 3 жыл бұрын

Are we not the one observing these centres ? What did osho say about it? Did osho not say that g movements will not help alone ?

@JivanSunder 3 жыл бұрын

Osho never talked about the Movements in any of his discourses

@shirleychen4816 3 жыл бұрын

@@JivanSunder you must have missed it . Go and read . Everything Osho said is available. I’ve read it all so I know

@KarimaCynthiaClayton 3 жыл бұрын

These are new students? Is this really from Gurdjieff?

@JivanSunder 3 жыл бұрын

Yes this is really from Gurdjieff, with the original music; most of the students are new, some had previously taken part in one 10-day workshop

@thomasbrouillard 4 жыл бұрын

thank you very much ! do you come sometimes to Shanghai?

@JivanSunder 4 жыл бұрын

Until this year, for several years, I worked all over China for around 6 months each year, and I have one time did a Gurdjieff Movements Workshop in Shanghai in May 2019. Once COVID is over I hope to continue working in China

@thomasbrouillard 3 жыл бұрын

@@JivanSunder please contact me [email protected], I can promote your next event in Shanghai/China. I am a close friend of Marco Bendoni (Amyo group) if you know

@JivanSunder 9 ай бұрын

Hi Thomas, just by accident I came across your comment from a long time ago! But if you read this, I'll be doing a 5-day Gurdjieff Movements workshop in Shanghai this August; get in touch if you are interested

@thomasbrouillard 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Jivan, Thank you for this record. I did not know the first movement. What is the name? is it the original music?

@JivanSunder 4 жыл бұрын

The 1st Movement is the Old 21, and yes, that is the original music