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@johnhammond6423
@johnhammond6423 3 сағат бұрын
Faith is what you use when you don't have evidence. I respect anyone that chooses to believes on faith. But I will choose evidence over faith anytime!
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you for sharing your comment. :-) I think the distinction here lies in how we define faith. For me, faith isn’t what you use when you don’t have evidence; it’s what you use when evidence alone can’t take you far enough. Evidence is essential for understanding how the world works, but it often falls short when addressing deeper questions of meaning, purpose, and the mystery of existence. Thanks again.
@johnhammond6423
@johnhammond6423 2 сағат бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound _'how we define faith'_ Faith: meaning, a strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof. Redefining the meaning of words such as faith can lead one to make up any old nonsense my friend. _'Evidence is essential for understanding how the world works, but it often falls short when addressing deeper questions'_ When you don't know and claim a God did it its called the 'God of the gaps fallacy' You can't just answer the 'deeper questions' by slotting in a God for which we have no good evidence for whatsoever. With respect, John.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 57 минут бұрын
@@johnhammond6423 - Hi John, thanks for coming back and continuing the conversation - and I really appreciate the respectful tone! I completely understand your concern about redefining words; clarity in language is important. But I don’t see myself redefining faith here. While one definition of faith, as you point out, involves belief without proof, I think there’s more to it. Faith can also mean trust or commitment in the face of uncertainty - something that extends far beyond religious doctrines. For example, we often place trust (or faith) in love, in relationships, or even in certain ideals like justice or beauty, none of which are fully provable in the way we might measure scientific evidence. Faith, in this sense, is not “making up nonsense” but living in relationship with what we experience as meaningful. Regarding the ‘God of the gaps,’ I absolutely agree that slotting in God as an answer to what we don’t yet understand can be problematic. But that’s not how I see faith working. Faith, for me, isn’t a placeholder for knowledge - it’s a response to the limits of knowledge. Science does an extraordinary job explaining how things work, but we often encounter questions that aren’t just how questions. Questions like: Why is there something rather than nothing? What gives life meaning? Why do love, beauty, and sacrifice matter so much to us? These aren’t gaps in scientific knowledge; they are questions of a different nature altogether. Faith addresses these questions not by rejecting evidence but by embracing the mystery at the heart of existence. I respect your perspective on evidence and proof, and I’m not here to argue that anyone must believe as I do. But I’d suggest that faith and reason don’t have to be enemies. For many of us, they work together to provide a richer understanding of life - evidence tells us how things work, while faith allows us to respond to life’s deeper dimensions with trust and meaning. Thanks again for engaging. I really do value the conversation!
@Psychological_rent
@Psychological_rent 8 сағат бұрын
Truly beautiful. Even if I consider myself an athiest.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 7 сағат бұрын
Thank you
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 3 күн бұрын
Stephen is being a manchild here
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 3 күн бұрын
You misspelled theist*
@rtee4086
@rtee4086 4 күн бұрын
All religions are human inventions, All gods are human inventions, And every believer Acknowledges this about all the other religions and all the other gods, While insisting, with equal sincerity and Equal lack of evidence, That theirs the one and only true exception, We humans made god in our image, Not the other way around, God and religion is a social construct.
@christosardjono6016
@christosardjono6016 4 күн бұрын
This is laughable.. nothing here just assertion and shallow reasoning
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I’d be interested to hear more about which parts you found unconvincing or shallow. Constructive feedback is always welcome and helps improve the conversation. I appreciate you taking the time to engage!
@rtee4086
@rtee4086 6 күн бұрын
We Atheists depend on observable evidence, While Theists believe without evidence, Religion and creationism is fairy tale, The Bible cannot prove the Bible, neither can the Quran prove the Quran. Claiming That your religious beliefs are true, is quite different from demonstrating That it is true.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 4 күн бұрын
@rtee4086 - Thank you for your comment. I agree that observable evidence is a cornerstone of scientific and rational inquiry, and it’s an incredibly powerful tool for understanding the physical world. Religious belief, however, operates in a different realm, focusing on meaning, morality, and personal experience rather than empirical demonstration. I also agree that claiming a belief is true is not the same as proving it. Faith, by its nature, doesn’t rely on the same standards of evidence as science does. For many theists, faith is less about proving claims and more about engaging with the mysteries of existence and the questions science doesn’t fully answer, like meaning, purpose, and morality. I think both approaches-scientific inquiry and spiritual exploration-have value, addressing different aspects of human experience.
@wrisq
@wrisq 7 күн бұрын
browner and dumber every year
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 14 күн бұрын
A loaded question, and a straw man.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 14 күн бұрын
@FactStorm - Thanks for your comment. I can see how the question might come across as loaded, depending on how it’s interpreted. My goal wasn’t to misrepresent or oversimplify atheism or nihilism but to explore the tension between them and whether meaning can be found without a divine framework. :-)
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 14 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound Yes, they're two seperate. They can overlap depending on how the two coincide, and if an individual identifies with both.
@dazolvini
@dazolvini 16 күн бұрын
I don't think atheism is posible. Like Pessoa said, we just turned our faith from god to humanity. Western religion lost most part of its foundations, the meaning it ofers has so little meaning right now. Hinduism or budism on the other hand has a more "probable" aproach to the idea of god.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
@dazolvini - Thank you for your comment. It’s fascinating to think about how faith can shift from one entity (like God) to another (like humanity), rather than being eradicated entirely. It raises the question of whether belief is intrinsic to human nature, even if the object of that belief changes. You also make an interesting point about the diminishing interest in Western religion. Many people feel that traditional structures no longer offer the depth or relevance they once did. At the same time, as you mentioned, traditions like Hinduism and Buddhism often approach the divine in ways that feel more fluid or aligned with contemporary spiritual searches.
@dazolvini
@dazolvini 16 күн бұрын
@ReasonUnbound i don't know if faith shifted from one entity to another or just changed the name, if you think about, god's famous three attributes suits pretty well to humanity... Francois jullien has done a great job explaining eastern philosophy/religion for western people.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
@@dazolvini The idea that humanity could inherit attributes traditionally ascribed to God is an intriguing thought. Maybe humanity is attempting to fill the void left by a diminishing belief in God. I don't know François Jullien's work very well! I believe his thought bridges Eastern and Western thought? Personally, I believe that a synthesis of Eastern and Western philosophies offers the best path forward for spirituality, whether secular or religious. Western traditions have a rich focus on individuality, moral structure, and existential meaning, while Eastern philosophies embrace impermanence, interconnection, and the present moment. Together, I think they can provide a more holistic, adaptable framework for navigating the challenges of the modern world.
@dazolvini
@dazolvini 15 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound I totally agree with your last paragrafh, i don't know exactly how could be made because i started reading about eastern wisdom with Juliien a year ago but only with the west part of the wisdom (or brain) isnt enough. West offers at the end of the day two posible paths: nihilism or consumer society. (Sorry about my English)
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 15 күн бұрын
@@dazolvini Your English is fine, so no need to apologise - you’re expressing these ideas very well. I completely agree that relying solely on the 'Western part of the brain' leaves us with limited paths, like nihilism or consumerism. Both can feel deeply unsatisfying in the long term. I believe that Eastern philosophies offer a sense of fluidity and presence that can balance Western tendencies toward control and analysis. Perhaps a synthesis must start with individuals engaging in this kind of dialogue and exploring the strengths of both traditions. It could be as simple as combining Western ideas of personal responsibility and progress with Eastern practices like mindfulness and acceptance of impermanence.🙂
@franciswalsh8416
@franciswalsh8416 16 күн бұрын
You mention Mao and Stalin without mentioning that these men tried to elevate themselves to "Godhood" by becoming completely untouchable. Think of Autocrats like the North Korean lunatics with their 500 foot statue of Kim Il Sung. Saddam Hussein and his towering posters, and their absolute untouchability. They are the Gods in thei realms.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 13 күн бұрын
@franciswalsh8416 - Leaders like Mao, Stalin, and the Kims in North Korea do seem to replicate the structure of religious veneration, elevating themselves to a kind of “Godhood” within their systems. This highlights how deeply ingrained the need for symbols of power and authority is in human societies, whether in religious or secular contexts. I think it’s troubling how autocrats often fill the role of a deity, commanding absolute loyalty and creating their own systems of myth and ritual to reinforce their untouchable status. This pattern seems to demonstrate that even in the absence of traditional religion, humans have a tendency to create figures or ideologies to venerate.
@jbchoc
@jbchoc 16 күн бұрын
Does it matter? You're gonna end up dead anyhow.
@philboast8841
@philboast8841 17 күн бұрын
No matter who we are or what we believe, life has meaning for us. Meaning is intrinsic to consciousness. No god required.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
@philboast8841 - Thank you for your comment. The idea that meaning is intrinsic to consciousness is compelling. It suggests that simply by being aware, by experiencing and interpreting the world, we create meaning as an inseparable part of who we are.
@OceanusHelios
@OceanusHelios 17 күн бұрын
Life and the universe are far from meaningless to an atheist. However, superstitions, cults, lying preachers, and made up stories about things that never happened, and the utterances of hateful bigoted and ruthless religious people playing the long game of subverting the world? Yup. That part is utterly meaningless to an atheist as well as the words coming from the mouths of the superstitious.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
@OceanusHelios - I know that for many atheists, the rejection of superstition, harmful ideologies, and religious hypocrisy is tied closely to a sense of integrity and a desire for truth. Those issues have caused pain and division, and it’s fair to call them out.
@secretweapon8367
@secretweapon8367 17 күн бұрын
can theism escape neuroticism?
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
Maybe that's a future video 😊
@Psychological_rent
@Psychological_rent 17 күн бұрын
Your viedos are soothing and worth watching, great content keep it up.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 17 күн бұрын
@@Psychological_rent thank you. I really enjoy making them - and there’s more to come! 😊
@michaelkorbel4442
@michaelkorbel4442 16 күн бұрын
I can only agree with this compliment. It's my first video, but definitely not the last.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
@michaelkorbel4442 Thank you
@L_G218
@L_G218 17 күн бұрын
I am an atheist but I do like a challenge
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 17 күн бұрын
@L_G218 - Thanks for the comment! Being open to a challenge is a great way to grow and explore new ideas.
@EdekLay
@EdekLay 16 күн бұрын
Read the bible?
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
@@EdekLay I’ve read the Bible. I understand that parts of the Bible can be controversial and are often highlighted in debates to critique religion. It’s true that some passages, taken on their own, can seem harsh or troubling, especially when viewed through a modern lens. However, like any ancient text, the Bible reflects the complexities of the time it was written.
@EdekLay
@EdekLay 15 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound Thanks for the reply I appreciate it, it was more a joke than anything. I myself am curious about it
@fredriksundberg4624
@fredriksundberg4624 17 күн бұрын
I were a christian until around 13 years old. And realising that what i've been taught and brought up with contradicted reality the way i viewed reality having made me a much more happier and joyful person after leaving christianity behind. And let's not forget that some people that's being theistic also showing some nihilistic behaviour and also let's not forget that depending on which flavour of religion or denomination it's actually being promoted at being a good thing being nihilistic with just their version of religious flavour that they're ascribing to.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 17 күн бұрын
@fredriksundberg4624 - Thanks for your comment. It sounds like leaving Christianity was a transformative step for you, leading to greater happiness. That kind of clarity and joy is something everyone strives for, whether they find it within or outside of religion. You also raise an interesting point about theistic nihilism. There are certainly traditions or denominations where an emphasis on submission or detachment from worldly concerns can feel nihilistic. It’s a fascinating paradox: some religious perspectives frame the world as both meaningful and transient, which can be hard to reconcile.
@fredriksundberg4624
@fredriksundberg4624 17 күн бұрын
Is there even something like that? Those atheists that i knowing of are not being nihilistic. But if you're comparing nihilistic behaviour and thought processes there's definitly some theistic persons showing nihilistic behaviour.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
You’re right that many atheists are far from nihilistic and find profound meaning in life. Atheism and nihilism aren’t necessarily connected, even though they often get lumped together in discussions like this. You also raise an important point about theistic nihilism. It’s true that some theists, depending on their beliefs, can display nihilistic tendencies.
@christopherneufelt8971
@christopherneufelt8971 17 күн бұрын
Philosophically speaking, when a person replaces god with void, it means that the person was already empty before its journey. In other words: nihilism is for the pussies. If you feel void in this journey, better go to a psychiatrist to prescribe you some medication for the rest of your life. You are not welcomed.
@KristopherNoronha
@KristopherNoronha 17 күн бұрын
Your arguments belie your belief - after listening to this entire video, I can claim that you are a true, dyed-in-the-wool theist. As an atheist, I do not stand at the edge of the void. I march into it. Theism, and more specifically religion, is the philosophy of the lazy, who prefer to stand and admire, waiting for salvation, while atheists march forth. At some point, theists are forced to take hesitant steps forward because to not do so and to deny the progress made by atheism would appear foolish. Any progress that humanity makes is DESPITE theism, not because of it.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 17 күн бұрын
@KristopherNoronha - I can see how, from a certain standpoint, theism might seem like a passive philosophy, waiting for salvation while atheists take bold steps forward toward the void. For me, belief isn’t about waiting or avoiding progress; it’s about wrestling with the same questions atheists face but from a different angle. Faith, especially when it’s active and reflective, can be about moving forward through the mystery rather than standing still. It’s not about avoiding the void but engaging with it in a way that opens up new possibilities. I do think humanity’s progress often comes from the interplay between different worldviews, including atheism and theism. While I understand your frustration with the way religion has sometimes resisted change, I’d argue that belief has also inspired some of humanity’s greatest achievements. Your point about marching into the void speaks to the courage atheism often embraces. Thanks for your comment.
@AwakenTheEarth
@AwakenTheEarth 17 күн бұрын
I don't think life has a "purpose." Yes, I'm an atheist but that doesn't mean I think life is essentially a waste. It's a beautiful thing. It can be scary but its not pointless.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 17 күн бұрын
I agree with the idea that life’s beauty and significance doesn't necessarily depend on a preordained "purpose." The fact that life can be both beautiful and scary, yet still meaningful in its own way, is something I think many people, atheist and theist, can agree with. Your point raises an interesting question: does life’s meaning come from what we bring to it, rather than something inherent? Your perspective suggests that the journey itself is where meaning is found. Thanks for your comment.
@AwakenTheEarth
@AwakenTheEarth 16 күн бұрын
@ReasonUnbound - I feel that religion causes people to believe they were born to become something and that is their goal and even when its going wrong and damaging the person, they continue with it because "god." Life is odd. It's chaotic & beautiful. No ones why life on earth works as it does but its better than thinking we have the truths to it. I always though religion provides good stepping stones for people but provides a horrible foundation
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 15 күн бұрын
@@AwakenTheEarth - I think you’ve described a real problem that exists within religion. For some, the belief that they’re 'born to become something' gives life structure and purpose. But as you point out, that same belief can become harmful if it forces people to pursue paths that don’t align with their well-being simply because they feel obliged to do so. Your description of life as chaotic and beautiful is a humbling thought. No one truly knows why life works as it does, and yet we’re all navigating it in our own ways. That openness to mystery feels freeing in a way that rigid certainties might not. I also love your idea of religion as stepping stones but not necessarily a solid foundation. It suggests that religion can provide tools or frameworks to begin understanding life but shouldn’t necessarily define how we build our lives forever. Thanks for you comments 🙂
@AwakenTheEarth
@AwakenTheEarth 15 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound thank you for your responses ❤
@sharon_rose724
@sharon_rose724 18 күн бұрын
Believing in "God" doesn't eradicate nihilism. It almost makes it worse, thinking some grand creator being created this place and us creatures and we're supposed to praise and be endlessly grateful for the world of wage and debt slavery we live in. Then delude ourselves believing that this loving creator will save us from what he created as long as we're obedient and loving without question. Makes it much worse.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 18 күн бұрын
@sharon_rose724 - Thanks for your comment. This is a valid criticism of certain views of God and the world we live in. For some, the idea of a creator can feel oppressive when framed as a being who imposes suffering and demands obedience without question. That’s a portrayal of God that many struggle with, myself included. However, I’d suggest that this view of God does not capture the full range of what belief in the divine can mean for some people. Many mystics and theologians throughout history have described God not as a creator in the sense of a controlling figure, but as the "ground of being" itself - a source of love, creativity, and freedom that invites rather than demands. This doesn’t deny the reality of suffering or the injustices of our world, but it does shift the focus. It suggests that belief in God can be about finding meaning and connection in the face of these struggles, rather than submitting passively to them. For me, faith isn’t about blind obedience - it’s about wrestling with these questions and finding a sense of hope and possibility, even amid the darkness.
@sharon_rose724
@sharon_rose724 18 күн бұрын
@ReasonUnbound I suppose the current external environment doesn't allow for the mystic view so much. Under different circumstances, I suppose I'd gravitate towards the mystic view.. if I wasn't forced from my birth into a system I don't agree with and don't have the ability to escape from.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 18 күн бұрын
@@sharon_rose724 It’s very true that the external environment we live in can make the mystic view feel inaccessible. When we’re born into systems that prioritise material success, competition, and conformity, it’s hard to find space for deeper, more personal ways of relating to the world. Mysticism, at its heart, isn’t about escaping from the world but finding a different way of being in it. But I completely understand how the weight of a system imposed on you and one that feels oppressive, can overshadow any sense of connection to something greater. It’s something so many of us struggle with. If there’s one thing mystics across traditions seem to agree on, it’s that even in the darkest places, there’s the possibility of something transformative that starts within, even when the external world remains unchanged for now. It's not easy, but it’s worth exploring.
@pepeabascal412
@pepeabascal412 18 күн бұрын
Of course it can
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 18 күн бұрын
@pepeabascal412 - Thanks for your response! What do you think allows atheism to escape nihilism? Is it through constructing meaning, relationships, or something else?
@pepeabascal412
@pepeabascal412 18 күн бұрын
Meaning is there for you to grab. With or without God. Meaning is as elusive as existence, but as real. Spinoza talks about this. Nietzsche is overused in this conversation.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 16 күн бұрын
@@pepeabascal412 It’s interesting to think about meaning as something that exists inherently, not tied exclusively to God but still present for anyone willing to grasp it. Spinoza’s perspective certainly adds to the conversation. His view of God or Nature as a unified whole opens up many possibilities for understanding existence and meaning as interconnected. I also understand your point about Nietzsche being overused. He looms large in the conversation because of his bold confrontation with the idea of the 'death of God.'
@pepeabascal412
@pepeabascal412 16 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound not exactly what I meant. I don’t say that meaning exists inherently. I say that (equate it to why) it is as impenetrable for us as the idea of existence. My idea is that meaning and existence are the same thing. Therefore I cannot say that meaning exists.
@pepeabascal412
@pepeabascal412 16 күн бұрын
The same thing or the same mystery, or they are both rooted together.
@shaunmcgowan-d8u
@shaunmcgowan-d8u 18 күн бұрын
No.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your view! :-)
@serafinorodrigues3966
@serafinorodrigues3966 23 күн бұрын
The atrocities by Russia and China were the result of Communist ideologies. They had communist party and not atheist party. Imperialism, extreme nationalism, fascism, tribalism has given us death & destruction. Add religious ideology to the list, the othering of people, us and them.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 13 күн бұрын
@serafinorodrigues3966 - You’re right that the atrocities committed in Russia and China were driven by communist ideologies, not explicitly atheism. These regimes used the communist party as the vehicle for their power, and their actions were shaped more by authoritarianism and extreme ideology than by the absence of religion. I also agree that imperialism, nationalism, fascism, tribalism, and religious ideologies have all contributed to division and violence throughout history. The common thread seems to be the human tendency to create in-groups and out-groups, regardless of whether the underlying framework is religious, political, or cultural. The challenge here, I think, is recognising how these patterns emerge across different systems and working out a way of thinking that fosters unity and compassion rather than division.
@CursedOneShot
@CursedOneShot 23 күн бұрын
:) great video.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 23 күн бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@nohandle-b8u
@nohandle-b8u 24 күн бұрын
the truth about atheism is that it was simply reactionary
@mortysmith8049
@mortysmith8049 27 күн бұрын
This is such a stupid video clearly made by some religious butt-hurt person. Hand-picking facts to suit your cause - sound familiar? Its called manipulation.
@RootlessNZ
@RootlessNZ 27 күн бұрын
We do not need to ask why we are here, why there is something rather than nothing...These are unanswerable questions unless we answer honestly: we do not know and cannot in principle know. We just need to live our lives as best we can. Philosopher John Gray suggests we live," just to see." A better response I think than the 3000 yeas of bad ideas, which constitutes the totality of religious belief.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
I completely agree that “we do not know” is an honest and valid response to the big questions of existence, and living our lives as best we can is certainly a meaningful approach. John Gray’s idea of living “just to see” is a powerful reminder to embrace the present and remain open to experience without necessarily seeking ultimate answers. I think for many people, religion isn’t just about answering these questions but about providing a framework for engaging with them, even if the answers are incomplete or symbolic. While I agree that religious traditions have their flaws, they’ve also inspired profound acts of creativity, compassion, and exploration of life’s mysteries.
@jaysmith6255
@jaysmith6255 27 күн бұрын
Are you A.I. I think you could best serve the humans with a channel that explores who really rules the world. The anarchists, the ones with no rulers. Please excuse my use of the word serve.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
I'm not sure my intelligence is artificial :-) I was born on a farm in 1959 and I may not be the brightest spark in the engine, but my thinking is pretty good. I agree that understanding who truly holds influence in the world is a crucial question.
@Roberto-ic6yu
@Roberto-ic6yu 28 күн бұрын
Religion is just another form of power and control. It's not based on anything real or provides anything useful. All religions are silly.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I understand why religion can seem that way, especially when it has been used as a tool for power and control throughout history. However, for many people, religion provides a sense of meaning, community, and guidance that they find deeply valuable. While it may not resonate with everyone, its impact on individuals and societies is more nuanced than it might appear at first glance.
@Roberto-ic6yu
@Roberto-ic6yu 27 күн бұрын
@ReasonUnbound in all for people having the right to believe what they want. But when it's based on bad ideas and had no evidence of being true, it can be ridiculed.
@angelb.823
@angelb.823 28 күн бұрын
As someone who is drawn closely to agnosticism, I can say that religion is not the problem. It's the fact most individuals would use radical ideologies, cultist mentalities, and demagogues to push the people towards a narrowed goal and agenda, using a pretext as a tool (including religion if used as a tool). Forget the talk about religious superstitious most people discuss on these issues. In the political context, the moment a religion is toppled, it is replaced by another cult of personality, regardless of the ideology (e.g. Rome toppling its kingdom to have a republic in its founding years, only to be turned as an empire by Augustus [who was turned the first Roman emperor], French revolution toppling the last French king, only to have an empire under Napoleon, Russian revolution killing the last Tsar, only to have a brutal authoritarian dictatorships under Lenin and Stalin, Turkish war of liberation where they removed the decadent Sultan and Caliph of the Ottoman Empire, only to replace him with the glorious and venerated image of Ataturk, Germany toppling the monarchy in the aftermath of WWI, only to have a brutal authoritarian dictatorship under the infamous Austrian painter before and during WWII, other monarchical states like Albania, Romania, Iran, Egypt, China, and Korea who replaced their emperors and kings with cultist figures [Hoxha, Ceausescu, Khomeni, Nasser, Mao, and Kim Jong Un]). You see this pattern in every occasion in every attempt they tried to have an enlightened revolution, only to turn into brutal authoritarian dictatorships. And the various dictatorships have different variations depending on the context of the time period. And to topple all of that, most common people confuse the cult of personality for a new form of religious worshipping, making them believe that any form of worship or veneration is considered to be a form of religious bigotry. Imagine the Warhammer 40k, where the man, who drove away the decadent gods and replaced their era with progressive and developed scientific breakthroughs, ended up becoming the worshipped Emperor of Mankind? Same situation can be applied to any country that attempts to re-establish a new form of revolution that would turn up as a dictatorship. Now, there are people like Niccolo Machiavelli and George Orwell, the last being an atheist in his personal life, who addressed these kinds of topics regarding power that uses pretexts, like religious wars, ("Power is not a means but an end. One does not establish a dictatorship to safeguard the revolution. One makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship"...[End Quote] - O'Brien from 1984)", but never publicly decried that religion is the root of evil in mankind's nature, only the demagogues who are pushing forward a narrow-minded agenda contradicted by the wishes of many people.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for your detailed and thought-provoking comment. You have pointed out a crucial point: the pattern of power structures replacing one form of worship or authority with another, often leading to authoritarianism regardless of ideology. I completely agree that the problem often lies in radical ideologies, demagogues, and the misuse of pretexts - including religion - to push narrow agendas, rather than religion itself being the root cause.
@joehammond9946
@joehammond9946 28 күн бұрын
You’re thesis statement is wrong which makes the premise of this video arguing against a straw man. I’ve never personally heard any atheists argue that religion itself makes you a bad person. Religion simply encourages and justifies some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen. Would there be slavery without religion? Yes. But religion codified rules for who should be enslaved, how they should be treated and by whom they should be enslaved. Would there be genocide without religion? Yes. But religion encourages the slaughter of non-believers and heretics.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. You make a good point that religion has often been used to justify atrocities like slavery and genocide, and I don’t deny that this has happened throughout history. However, my intention in the video was not to argue that atheists believe religion inherently makes someone a bad person, but rather to address critiques that often portray religion as uniquely harmful or dangerous. You’re absolutely right that atrocities like slavery and genocide would exist without religion. These evils seem to arise from human nature and societal structures rather than belief systems alone. That said, religion has undeniably been used as a tool to codify and justify such actions, just as secular ideologies have done in other contexts. My argument is that these actions reflect deeper issues within humanity, rather than being exclusive to religion.
@RichardGranberg
@RichardGranberg 26 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound Good one
@brunods4560
@brunods4560 28 күн бұрын
Humams are not inherently evil. We, as a species, evolved ro be interdependent. As someone else pointed , it is social structures and hierarchies that create and motivate "evil " behaviour. We can't look ar wolves im captivity and assume that, socially, wolves are aggressive in the wild. We cant look at neurotic bears in captivity and assume they are also so in the wild. And, historically, the church and religion was always one of the factors for motivated evil behaviors through an assertion of pseudo social structures, or the idea of it. All this is true about religions that sedate people's ability to think critically and instill varying degrees of fundamentalism when and where these same religions are the social norm. Soncalled Abrahamic religions are a good example.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
I agree that humans, like many species, are interdependent and evolved to cooperate for survival. The examples of wolves and bears in captivity are great analogies for how external circumstances, including social systems, can shape behaviour in ways that don’t necessarily reflect innate tendencies. Yes, religion has historically been used to assert power and justify harmful behaviours. At the same time, I would argue that these issues stem more from the misuse of religion as a tool within flawed hierarchies than from religion itself. The same structures that have led to harm through religious systems have also emerged in purely secular contexts. Regarding critical thinking, I agree that any ideology - religious or otherwise - that discourages questioning or fosters fundamentalism can be harmful. Abrahamic religions, as you point out, have been both profound sources of wisdom and, at times, vehicles for rigid dogmatism. It’s a complex and important conversation. Thank you for engaging with the video!
@walkingmountain22
@walkingmountain22 28 күн бұрын
The problem is that a good person will do good and an evil person will do evil, but to get a good person to do evil, it takes religion.
@carstenhardt1589
@carstenhardt1589 28 күн бұрын
In all fairness, that line should end with "it takes a cause". For many people religion is such a cause but there are other examples where large numbers of people believed that a certain cause was more important than individual lives.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
@walkingmountain22 - Thank you for sharing that quote - it’s a provocative one that often sparks deep discussion. I’d argue, though, that the same dynamic can apply to secular ideologies as well. History has shown that people - good or evil - can be influenced to do harmful things under many banners, not just religion.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
@carstenhardt1589 - I think you’re right. The issue often lies in the nature of the cause, whether religious, political, or ideological. Causes that demand absolute loyalty can sometimes justify harmful actions, regardless of their origin. It’s a reminder that we need to approach all causes, religious or secular, with critical thinking and humility.
@CatGadget
@CatGadget 27 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound well maybe, but that just shows that religion is amoral. It can be used to promote good or evil. It a tool to get humans to do the bidding of those who control the message. There is nothing special or inherently good about it as most religious people will claim.
@walkingmountain22
@walkingmountain22 27 күн бұрын
I see political and social ideologies as religion. Relgion and belief in a god are different.
@erupendragon7376
@erupendragon7376 28 күн бұрын
USSR and China!!!! Load of BS from that point forward. It’s a good thesis statement, but got to throw some real brain at it. Russians are hyper religious and superstitious; irregardless of USSR. The orthodox were a pillar of society even during Stalin. China not being religious is utter stupidity.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
You raise an important point about the complexities of religion and belief in societies like the USSR and China. While these regimes officially promoted atheism, it’s true that cultural and religious traditions persisted, often beneath the surface, and still influenced society in significant ways. You are right that Russia’s Orthodox Church has been a central pillar of its culture, even during times of repression. Similarly, in China, while state atheism was promoted, religious and spiritual traditions like Confucianism, Buddhism, and Taoism remained deeply ingrained in the culture.
@erupendragon7376
@erupendragon7376 27 күн бұрын
@ I am Canadian who lived in China. Living back here again at the moment. Translating western concepts into Chinese never works. People here are super religious, but trying to put a name or demonation wont work. People won’t put labels on themselves. Same for political concepts. They have no idea of what communism is other than a thing they read in a book from a 100 years ago. Even the term Maoism is pretty nonsensical as the nuance of the time period is still really fresh. Putting a single reductive label to the period is propaganda. And it offuscates instead of explaining. Chinese do fit very well the definition of materialist when it comes to geopolitical thinking and institutional structure. Eve. If they don’t use the term because its relationship to Marxism is pretty foreign. Bring Marxism up, because the I agree with the concept of having a highly educated atheistic society would solve most problems and frictions in society. It’s a theoretical concept that makes sense, it’s a concept that should be empirically tested. However every time people approach this concept through USSR and China I can tell immediately they are doing it in bad faith and probably trying to prove the virtues of religion. One thesis for which there is a lot of empirical data is how the so called Abrahamic religions are far more violent, oppressive, and imposing than other religions. Their presence in society can always be empirically demonstrated to be negative. Expanding on this is the honest way to approach the subject.
@leswilton4234
@leswilton4234 28 күн бұрын
Indeed, why should religion be treated any differently? All religions are based on superstition. Fortunately, I live in a country in which our constitution is based on secular principles. That is exactly how it should be. I don't want our government implementing legislation based on superstitious beliefs. I have no problem with people sustaining their own religious beliefs. It's a free country so one can believe anything you want. Just keep it out of legislation.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I completely agree that governments should be based on secular principles to ensure fairness and equality for all, regardless of belief. At the same time, I think it’s important to have open discussions about how personal beliefs - religious or otherwise - can shape values and ethical debates in society. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
@TonyLinden51
@TonyLinden51 28 күн бұрын
It is not the evil that is all religion that stops me being in one of them, it is that all religion is based on nonsense. Show me the evidence that would stand impirical examination, and I will examen it.
@johnking6624
@johnking6624 28 күн бұрын
There are two areas with huge suffering and continual atrocities. The Russian invasion of Ukraine and Zionist genocide- Both are fuelled by religion. The comments about meaning in life ignore the fact that dozens of stupid superstitions have answers that contradict each other.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. The suffering and atrocities you mention are heart-breaking, and I agree that religion can sometimes be used as a justification for conflict. However, I would argue that these issues are often more complex, involving political, territorial, and cultural factors alongside religion. Regarding meaning in life, I see religion as one way people grapple with deep questions- not the only way, and certainly not without contradictions.
@johnking6624
@johnking6624 27 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound I fail to understand how swallowing any one of the thousands of lies invented by crooks for the exploitation of fools could give any intelligent person answers to the important questions of life. Of course your religion is different and holds the only truth but I have never been able to discern it in my last 65 years of searching.
@fazerianducati
@fazerianducati 28 күн бұрын
Religion is demonstrably ridiculous.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
I understand that religion can seem ridiculous to some, especially when viewed from a purely rational or scientific perspective. However, for many people, religion serves as a way to explore meaning, morality, and connection, even if its stories and practices might seem strange or outdated to others.
@fazerianducati
@fazerianducati 27 күн бұрын
@ I get your point, I personally like to deal with demonstrable reality and when there are things I can’t explain I’m ok with saying I don’t know.Unfortunately religion can be divisive and bigoted sometimes.
@jakubosiejewski9859
@jakubosiejewski9859 28 күн бұрын
Wait wait wait. If religion is not delusion, what is it? Can you show even a single example where something supernaturakl was actually REAL? Was it right about the origin of life? Was it actually right about the origin of languages? Was it even right about love? FFS, in most cases people prohibiting a pair of adults from loving each other did it because of religious reasons in the name of their fake gods.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment and for engaging with the video, it is clear that you feel strongly about this topic. I do understand where you’re coming from. If we’re talking about religion as a literal explanation for things like the origin of life or languages, I agree that it usually falls short, especially when compared to scientific inquiry. But I would argue that religion isn’t about providing factual answers to those kinds of questions. Instead, it can be seen as a way of exploring meaning, morality, and the deeper, more subjective aspects of human experience. As for the supernatural. I can’t offer definitive proof of anything supernatural being "real" in the sense science might demand. But for many people, the reality of religious experience is not about empirical evidence; it’s about how it shapes their lives, relationships, and sense of connection to something greater. I don’t think this makes it fake. Regarding love, you’re absolutely right that religion has sometimes been used to justify discrimination, and that’s something I believe deserves condemnation. But it’s also true that religious teachings have inspired profound acts of love and compassion throughout history. Ultimately, I think it’s important to distinguish between religion as a set of beliefs and the ways those beliefs are sometimes misused. The question isn’t whether religion is perfect - religion is far from perfect - but whether it still has something meaningful to offer humanity.
@tasteful-attitude
@tasteful-attitude 27 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound so feel good lies. no thx.
@RichardGranberg
@RichardGranberg 26 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound Let's talk about "profound acts of love and compassion throughout history". Like what?
@jakubosiejewski9859
@jakubosiejewski9859 26 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound " Instead, it can be seen as a way of exploring meaning, morality, and the deeper, more subjective aspects of human experience." But it fails at that, too. Religious morality is invariably about killing "wrong kind of people". "t religion has sometimes been used to justify discrimination" No, not *sometimes* - every person discriminating I have encountered did so on the basis of religion.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 26 күн бұрын
@@RichardGranberg A few profound examples that come to mind include individuals like Maximilian Kolbe, who sacrificed his life in Auschwitz to save another prisoner, or Gandhi, whose deeply spiritual beliefs underpinned his philosophy of nonviolent resistance, inspiring independence movements worldwide. Another example is Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a theologian who stood against the Nazi regime and ultimately gave his life for his resistance. On a broader scale, religious communities have also established hospitals, schools, and charitable organisations that continue to serve millions of people. While religion is far from perfect, these acts demonstrate how it can inspire profound love and compassion in individuals and societies.
@dr.penpen
@dr.penpen 28 күн бұрын
Atheist is cultspeech for outsider
@SubhamPalcyd
@SubhamPalcyd 28 күн бұрын
Religion needs to be improved and not removed. It needs to be made rational by removing the concept of magic man spying on you.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I think you’re touching on an important idea - religion, like any human institution or system, has room for improvement. It has evolved over time, and many religious traditions have adapted to align better with contemporary understanding and values. The concept of a “magic man spying on you” is definitely something that doesn’t resonate with everyone, even within religious communities. Many people see religion less as a belief in a supernatural overseer and more as a framework for engaging with profound questions about existence, morality, and the human experience. I agree that making religion more rational and accessible to people in today’s world is crucial if it’s to remain meaningful.
@SubhamPalcyd
@SubhamPalcyd 28 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound u chatgpt or something??
@homophilosofikus8215
@homophilosofikus8215 28 күн бұрын
Religion is the last remnant of a medieval superstitious belief in magic. There`s witchcraft, demons, evil spirits, curses, blessings and talking animals. Have you seen the bible? It`s like an ancient boring Harry Potter book How can humanity progress with it`s head stuck up it`s ancient superstitious ass? If belief in such things is the only way you can find what you call meaning, I feel sorry for you
@MrBastekPL
@MrBastekPL 28 күн бұрын
I have watched some of your videos. And i see yor doubt. Trust me if you look more in to it you will end up on atheist side. Trust me you will be welcome. And even if im wrong we are happy you are looking in to it. Im liveing big fat like and sub one you my man ❤
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and for your kind words - I really appreciate the like and sub! I do appreciate hearing from people who engage with my content. I think doubt is an important part of any journey, whether you’re religious, atheist, or somewhere in between. It pushes us to ask questions, challenge assumptions, and dig deeper into what we truly believe. Who knows where such an exploration will lead any of us? What matters most, I think, is the willingness to listen, reflect, and keep searching for meaning and truth - -whatever that might look like for each individual.
@paulthompson9668
@paulthompson9668 28 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound All you need to do is read the entire Bible and you will learn the truth.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
@@paulthompson9668 Thank you for your comment! While I appreciate the value many people find in the Bible, my own spirituality isn’t entirely Bible-based. I do try to approach the Bible with an understanding of its historical and cultural context, but I also find parts of it deeply challenging and, at times, disturbing. For me, spirituality is more about exploring the mystery of existence, meaning, and connection in ways that go beyond any single text or tradition.
@paulthompson9668
@paulthompson9668 27 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound Do you believe that as a social species, human beings had a survival advantage be being empathetic, and as a result, empathy was a quality that helped human societies survive and thus became an inherited trait?
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
@@paulthompson9668 Yes, I do believe that empathy has played a crucial role in the survival and success of humans as a social species. Our ability to connect with others, understand their feelings, and work cooperatively likely gave early human societies a significant survival advantage. As an inherited trait, empathy not only helped individuals within a group but also contributed to the overall survival and flourishing of human societies. It is interesting to think about whether religion could have served a similar evolutionary function. ( maybe a future video? 🤔) By providing shared stories, rituals, and moral frameworks, religion may have helped bind communities together, offering a sense of purpose and cohesion that strengthened early societies.
@PwopYT3811
@PwopYT3811 29 күн бұрын
Atheism is not a worldview, you can't refer to atheists as a group with similiar beliefs. There's no such things as atheistic regime, arguments or beliefs. Pointing out that attrocities can be commited in the name of something else than religion doesn't prove that religions don't cause wars. Nobody claims it's the sole source of bad things. Also comparing the wars to consumerism or social media is just a terrible analogy. Of course science hasn't answered the questions from 3:12, that's not what it does. That's what philosophy is for. You don't need a religion for it.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment! I agree that atheism, strictly defined, isn’t a worldview or a cohesive group - I maybe could have been clearer about that in the video. My aim was to address criticisms often voiced by some atheists rather than generalise about all atheists. Regarding atrocities, I don’t deny that religion has been a factor in wars and conflicts. My point is that religion isn’t uniquely responsible, as similar harm has been caused under secular systems too. You are right that science isn’t designed to answer existential questions, and philosophy is a better tool for exploring the mysteries of existence.
@LennyCooke636
@LennyCooke636 25 күн бұрын
Which wars did religion start ? WW 1, WW2, WW...
@catrinamcdermott4211
@catrinamcdermott4211 29 күн бұрын
I have written a novel in which the Vatican reforms the Catholic Church institution by deciding that it can no longer support the fraud of religion but will, in future, support and empower the people who are the Earth's rightful political authority above which exists no other. It's reason for doing this is that, in view of global warming's threat to soon end life on the planet to which criminal wars exempt from emissions reductions are the biggest contributor, the human family needs to start believing in ourselves and in our human capabilities. The book is called A Twist in The Tale of The Devil and it's written by a person and not an an atheist, a religious term which I find insulting to thoughtful people's intelligence.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing about your novel - it sounds like a fascinating exploration of faith, institutional reform, and humanity’s responsibility for the planet. I find the idea of the Vatican shifting its focus from religious doctrine to empowering humanity particularly intriguing. It raises important questions about the intersection of morality, authority, and responsibility in a world facing existential threats like climate change. In some ways, your novel’s premise aligns with my belief that institutions, including religious ones, should adapt to serve the greater good while addressing the real issues humanity faces. I also appreciate your perspective on the term "atheist." Language is a powerful tool, and I agree that how we define ourselves and others can shape the conversation. Your preference to focus on human capabilities rather than religious or anti-religious labels is interesting and might resonate with those people who are looking for a more inclusive and practical approach to global problems. Your book sounds like it weaves together compelling ideas about human potential and collective action. If you’d like, feel free to share more about it. Thanks again for your comment and for contributing to this conversation.
@catrinamcdermott4211
@catrinamcdermott4211 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comprehensive, positive reply and best wishes with the conversation which you're holding.
@RichardGranberg
@RichardGranberg 29 күн бұрын
This video is misguided from the beginning. Atheists absolutely think the the "root of all evil" is human behavior. Religion is a superstition that facilitates awful human behavior. The good that is attributed to religious social structures is the same good that can be accomplished by any large active community of humans with a common purpose. You can say the same about the bad attributed to religious social structures. The difference, of course, is that religious social structures, world wide, are by far the most powerful social structures that exist, apart from some governments (and maybe some corporations). The manifestation of any religion is through the community of its adherents. The beliefs and actions of the believers is the religion. Additionally, atheism is fundamentally just a lack of belief in any god. Some atheists also critique some religions, but that isn't a requirement of all atheists.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 29 күн бұрын
@RichardGranberg - Thank you for your comment and for engaging with the video. I appreciate the points you’ve raised. I agree that the root of evil lies in human behaviour. Religion, like any human construct, can amplify both the best and worst aspects of human nature. It has been used to inspire incredible acts of compassion and justice, but it has also been misused to justify harmful actions. I think we differ on the characterisation of religion as a "superstition that facilitates awful human behaviour." This is a significant claim, and I’d like to explore it in more depth in a future video. You make a valid observation about the power of religious social structures, and I agree that their influence has been immense throughout history. However, I’d argue that this power is not unique to religion but is a reflection of how humans organise around shared beliefs, whether religious, secular, or ideological. The enduring nature of religion, though, suggests it taps into something fundamental about human experience-perhaps our search for meaning, connection, or purpose-that goes beyond mere superstition. Regarding atheism being fundamentally a lack of belief in a god, I acknowledge that this is true, and not all atheists actively critique religion. My video was aimed at addressing common critiques often voiced by atheists who do engage in public debates about religion. Your clarification does add an important distinction and I will keep this in mind for future discussions. Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts. I look forward to exploring these ideas further in upcoming content, especially the claim about religion as a superstition.
@wanderingsoul1189
@wanderingsoul1189 29 күн бұрын
Excellent points
@leswilton4234
@leswilton4234 28 күн бұрын
@@ReasonUnbound Your point that superstition does facilitate awful human behaviour is certainly valid. I posted a comment above about the secular constitution of our country. I live in South Africa. Before we adopted our new constitution, we had a system based on religious foundations. The minority government of the day justified the system of Apartheid using their religion. A legislative system, that condemned millions of our citizens to lives of poverty and exclusion from mainstream economic participation. It will take generations to recover from it.
@ReasonUnbound
@ReasonUnbound 27 күн бұрын
@@leswilton4234 Thank you for sharing your perspective and the historical context of South Africa. It is a powerful example of how religion, when intertwined with government, can be used to justify harmful systems like Apartheid. The suffering and exclusion that system caused are tragic, and I agree it’s a sobering reminder of how ideologies, religious or otherwise, can be manipulated to serve unjust agendas. Your point about the secular constitution is significant. A secular foundation allows for governance based on principles of equality and inclusion, ensuring no single belief system dominates. However, I’d also add that while religion was misused to justify Apartheid, it also inspired many of the leaders who fought against it - figures like Desmond Tutu and others who drew on their faith to advocate for justice and reconciliation. The key, I think, is to recognise the dual potential of religion as both a tool for harm and a source of profound moral guidance, depending on how it’s wielded.
@joekillah3002
@joekillah3002 26 күн бұрын
I am an apathetic nonbeliever who tries to remain neutral because as a non believer there is nothing that compels me to proselytize my non belief. My disbelief in any god or superstition does not mean I reject some moral concepts of believers. I don't even argue that religion was some kind of evil that plagued the earth. Many if not almost all brilliant people that built civilization were religious. You can even argue that religiosity was a driving force in creating the foundations we have today. But now we are at a point where we have the knowledge to understand things without needing a mythological comprehension to drive us. We are gaining scientific and historic understanding of things that that now give us more insight on life. I have no spite or hatred towards religion. I simply believe it is untrue and based on myths. I'm certain if I believed in these Deities or superstitions that I'd be compelled to follow dogmatic teachings. I simply believe they are fictitious, so there is no reason for me to adhere to any religion.
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 Ай бұрын
God`s that do not exist outside the minds of the gullible ,ignorant and uneducated cannot die.