Does it need to?

You watched my video. Yay. 😁

@@SCSITerminatorWe’re both big fans lol

It was nice to meet you too.

Yeah, I too have been thinking about longer videos. The problem is not storage capacity as flash carts are cheap and large these days, but rather battery capacity. It's hard to find a good action camera that's capable of lasting more than an hour.

There's a few changes they did with the sensors on it, but mostly yeah, the same arm, not that anything was wrong with it before.

Old truck is still in service. The whole area I'm in is growing, so our company is just expanding with it. New routes and territory means new trucks, and as one of the most senor and experienced asl drivers at the site, they decided to reward me with one. As far as performance, it seems to pack about the same. I get roughly 14 tons on it, more if it's wet, less if it has a lot of leaves and yard crap mixed in. For a 31 yard body, that is the expected performance as 1000 pounds per cu yd is very common in the industry. You can technically make a stronger packer, but you end up having to reinforce it with extra steel and weight that overall its not worth it. The 1000 lb/yd seems to be the sweet spot. You only see more packing pressure used in static bailers in recycling centers and transfer stations where the extra weight for the chamber reinforcement needed for the increased pressure isn't a concern. Anyway, back to this new truck, think the ram moves slightly faster which is nice, but it doesn't seem push any harder, though not any softer either. The arm initially was slower from the factory than my old truck, though thankfully I know the service code and how to speed it up (don't tell my mechanics). Anyway, I configured it to where the trolly can go from bottom to top in 3 seconds as outlined in the service manual. Any faster and it just becomes so violent it's borderline uncontrollable, and could drastically shorten the life of the arm with abnormal wear, any slower and it's unproductive and needlessly increases your workday. It important to get this right as just a 1 second difference in cycle times equates to 20 minutes over a 1200 stop route, so yes, a 1 second difference in cycle time is significant. Otherwise the cab is a lot more comfortable, the ac is decent, and the turning radius seems slightly better which will help in coves. Anyway, overall I'm satisfied, it's definitely not a downgrade.

Sounds like you'll continue to have plenty of work and that your company values your service and takes good care of you, hard things to find these days! I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the new truck, keep up the good work and please keep posting these great videos!

If you unplug the far limit sensor for the packer, you can get the packer to go a lot further in like your thinking. I sometimes do it if I have a bridge of cardboard that I need to clear and I'm still fairly empty. Still, it doesn't really do much if it's this full. If the packer isn't triggered to retract by the sensor (like it being unplugged), it will just stall out against the packed trash until a hard coded timer triggers it to retract. It doesn't push with any more pressure or anything and woln't cause the trash to get packed any tighter. Also, while the packing cylinders are telescopic since the packer plate also acts as the ejector on this model, they are also setup so only the first stage of the cylinders build up any real force to crush things. The later stages have smaller bores (to reduce size and weight) and are only capable of generating enough force to eject everything when the tailgate is open, they arn't designed to do the bulk of the packing and aren't capable of generating any real force to crush stuff. So anyway, I could unplug the sensor, but all that will happen is it will push until it reaches the end of the first stage on the packing cylinders which isn't that much beyond where the sensor is, and then stall because the later stages can't generate any force to push further. And it will sit stalled like this until: the timer causes it to retract, I dump a cart causing it to abort and restart the autopak cycle from the beginning (I can change this behavior too to where it doesn't do this, but it causes problems when packing out at the end as I need it to auto abort out of the stall), or I manually retract it. Anyway, I know it sounds cool, but it doesn't work like your thinking it does in your head and just isn't worth it. Also, front loaders work similar and there are some operators who like to keep that sensor unplugged all the time. It works better for them because they like keeping the hopper completely empty and everything pushed way back so they can dump a large (like 10 cu yd) dumpsters in without any issue, and since they aren't continually collecting and packing like I am, they don't mind controlling everything manually between the stops. Still, they got to be careful as trying to pack with the later cylinder stages can bend and destroy the whole cylinder and replacing one is like tens of thousands of dollars and days of downtime. Like I said, those later stages just aren't designed to withstand that kind of force.

It's doing ok, I just got a call from it!

Yeah I think they're weird looking too, but there actually quite a few of my customers that use whatever brand they are.

@@SCSITerminatorThey’re Glad. They make some other funky colors too. I got some blue and green ones

Me too. I live a very trashy lifestyle

@@trashyraccoon2615 I sort of do. I love when I see houses with a lot of garbage out for pickup and I take their garbage. I just tool like 8 bags of garbage from this one house this morning, I could've taken more because they had 2 of the 96 gallon cans that were overflowing but I didn't make enough space in my car. Otherwise I would've just emptied all their garbage

@@trashyraccoon2615 I don't think the people really care who takes the garbage away, just as long as it goes away

@@trashyraccoon2615 I even got a couple unopened bags of chips that "expired" a week ago that they threw in the garbage

@@robertwalton1054 Some people definitely care! I’ve had the cops called on me. Just be careful out there playing amateur garbageman! lol

Yeah, its funny. The ram itself is blunt, which pops the bags but doesn't rip them open. What does is actually the friction of the material passing over itself. Some packer bodies have "retention teeth" welded on the underside of the breaker bar above the opening going into the body. You can see them on the Labrie here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp6Zf2tsZs5_qqssi=vbLE_2gItbGJwH48&t=1735 They can even be hinged like Marathon does on their static compactors to further help ensure the material only moves in one direction. But McNeilus does not, so that's why you see the material on top being pushed back into the hopper area. I'm going to rant a bit more here: While I love the ZR arm, I actually don't like the hopper design on the McNeilus, but it's what my company bought and will likely continue to buy (everything at our shop is McNeilus), so it's what I'm forced to deal with. I don't like having a single piece follower and being forced to rely on gravity to slide the material off. I'd much rather have a segmented roll up follower that retracts under a scraper at the front of the hopper to force the material off the follower. McNeilus is even worse with this because they thought in their wisdom to have the slope be inconsistent and have some bolt heads protrude up right around the hinge between the follower and the ram, just to make it even easier for material to get stuck on it. /facepalm I probably will never get the opportunity, but given the chance, I'd really like to try out a Labrie with the new alley "ZR like" arm. I've driven a Labrie before and really liked the hopper design, and since they bought out Pendpac, they now have a model with an arm I know I like as well. Seems like the best of both worlds. I'd also like to try one of the auger trucks, but I'm hesitant to say the New Way Rotopac because I know from experience that offset loading arms suck, and tilt to dumps are dangerous on the uneven ground of a landfill. Probably would haft to be Heil's (rebranded Bolvin Revolution) Revamp then. That latest video of that Republic guy with it on the electric Battle Motors chassis looked fairly speedy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnNnWadiJWGn6s

@@SCSITerminator Thank you for your reply! You're right, friction of materials is a way more accurate way of describing it. Maybe you could ask your workshop to add some "teeth" to the breaker bars? But then again, where's the fun in that? Yes, I've seen in some videos some rather bad designs where rivets and other things on the rams cause debris to get stuck; it doesn't take something to be sticking up very much for it to get caught, and the other issue too is it pulls stuff back out. And your truck does have a rather big lip at the front of the ram, ideal for this. It's almost like they designed it to be bad lol. Relaying on gravity isn't a bad idea as long as the design has a big enough drop, which many of these pendulum hoppers seem to be lacking. I guess they are good for not needing to clean out behind the ram/blade each day; self-cleaning. It would be interesting to see how an auger rubbish truck performs long term with mixed waste. I've seen some videos of trucks with augers and seen in person some stationary compactors with augers. They sure do seem to mince through the waste. Outside of the truck design issues, do you enjoy the job? I think it would be good fun! Thank you for your comments once again and posting great videos! Hopefully one day you'll get to drive the perfect truck of your dreams.

I'd like to see more clothes

Recycling is boring! Sorry, keeping it real. Garbage is the fun stuff

@@trashyraccoon2615 well if it’s contaminated enough…

@@LongIslandRefuseTrucks LOL, ok, true. Yeah. Just rather see all the bags getting dumped myself. Just good old fashioned garbage

@@trashyraccoon2615 if you like garbage I have a new video I’m going to post soon, it’s a rear loader on restaurant garbage in manual bins - it’s pretty nasty

@@LongIslandRefuseTrucks Oh awesome! Thanks so much. I will subscribe

Let me clarify, it's like 45 min each way, and then there's the lines and time at the landfill itself. So in total, the entire round trip is like 2 hours. Not as lengthy as the 2 hour each way you might have been thinking, but still a significant amount of time.

@@SCSITerminator by me my city is contracted to dump at the landfill but grees and recycle go to the MRF always a line at the landfill cuase of the transfer semis dumping and the stupid CHP doing their inspections but they dont stop the yard waste guys they dont wanna be crawling under the truck when its like 100 un the shade

Glad you liked it.

Yeah. I feel the same

I can't control what people throw away.

Strange, I saw lots of diapers getting packed, what are you looking for? A route with only diapers? Perhaps you should make such a video...😂

Honestly I never understood how these perverts seem to never get blocked on any of these channels. It’s like the same ten people too.

Maybe it's because there's nothing perverted about pressing diapers in the garbage truck, just smelly garbage going to its destination hahahaha, you problematize simple things 😁@@Lunar_Capital

@@Lunar_Capital yeah I've noticed that too. Does no good to ban them, as they just start up new accounts and continue. Still I wish they would just be a good voyeur and STFU, mostly because I think they scare some of the other content posters off. So Carlos, sorry I can't satisfy you, and if you don't mind, please keep your diaper fetish to yourself, thanks.

I work for a local company that doesn't really care about weight limits. That said, this load was about 15 and change tons, which with a 31 yard body, puts it at about 1000lbs. / cu. yd. which is about the limit for any garbage truck, regardless of brand. Also, my truck has a tag axle which helps with load distribution, and our mechanics due a good job of keeping the brakes maintained. Anyway, in short, I'm not too concerned about weight, and I like knowing that my truck is capable of getting an effective load.

Man, I didn't know that you still post videos. It's been forever. I really love that BFI front load video. I used to watch that a lot when I was a kid.

@@SuperOptimus217 that was a lifetime ago, I wasn't even driving back then.

I drive a curroto frontload truck and I tell you what Iv had some hefty 16 and half ton loads 17 on a wet day what does that side loader pack ???

​@@Cameronherdman69 Its hard to say exactly because I think the scale at our yard under-reads. But according to our scale, I can get about 15 to 16 if its a wet load which is decent for a 31 yd body. Our company's brand-new trucks are about the same. Yard trimmings does not help things and doesn't pack well at all. It makes me madder to see it because many of these customers have a monthly yard trimmings pickup that they refuse to use. Anyway, as a result, a typical "normal" load is closer to 13 tons.

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Believe it or not, it's a mack terrapro. It can't pack that into a 31 yard body unless it's soggy mush.

@@SCSITerminator MRU or LEU? Thanks for the reply; means a lot!