New England Forests

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@jonathankirsch2121 Күн бұрын

This really is a great film, you did so good with it! It reminds me of all the trees and forests I grew up with. You really captured the beauty of these incredible places, and I learned so much watching it

@user-qs7gx7rp7m 2 күн бұрын

Newly moved to a farm first settled in 1900 by an English family in a land of nothing by forests, rivers and lakes. Love history and researching that family story inspired by old relics found burried in a tumbled down log barn I've used great care in This channel is a mercy by wise lessions in how to read the tree language thats shouts out its tale in silence . . .

@danlevecque7203 2 күн бұрын

Great presentation

@johncooper9887 3 күн бұрын

Bent trees have been used by native americans to mark trails

@lazaruslazuli6130 3 күн бұрын

The favorite tree for European shipbuilders to make into masts was the Eastern White Pine. The mainmasts for many ships had to be from 36” to 48” in diameter at the base and from one hundred fifty to two hundred feet tall. The kind of tree required to be a mast could only come from an old growth, virgin forest - an environment where a tree could only sprout and grow to replace a mature tree that had been struck by lightning, or one that had died from some other reason; wind, insects, fire, or drought. Only then could a seedling receive any light to grow, and that was only from directly above. In the struggle to surpass any competing trees that had germinated at the same time, a sapling would shed its lower limbs, in order to grow upwards faster than its competition. That meant when it was mature, the tree didn’t have any knots in its trunk on the lower one hundred feet or so. When every tree in the forest was forced to go through the same competitive process over thousands of years, it wasn’t a forest of trees the English colonists found in New England, it was a forest full of ship masts. That’s what the early explorers of the new colonies found -forests full of ship’s masts stretching as far as the eye could see from any hilltop vantage point. A 'second growth' forest will never turn into an 'old growth' forest. The competition for survival is what creates and 'old growth' forest. It will take at least three or four hundred years for any forest to warrant that name, and that will be after all the trees in this video have died and been replaced by new trees that have undergone the above-described process of survival.

@NewEnglandForests 2 күн бұрын

I have to disagree somewhat with, or at least clarify, a bit of what you said. Our current second growth forests are biologically (and structurally) degraded compared to the pre-settlement old forests, but if left alone they certainly will become "old growth"; they may never recover the same mix of organisms as the original old growth contained, but they will mature and develop just as the original forest did, while increasing in biological and physical complexity. They are currently in that state of competiton that you mentioned. There were natural disturbances (storms, etc) that leveled stands in the original forests, and those stands had to recover over time just as today's "second growth" must. A big difference is that some of the plant, animal, and fungal life of the original forest has been either greatly reduced or eliminated, and non-native species have been introduced. Most of central New England's forests were replaced by agricultural fields (as well as towns, cities), so that land lost nearly all of the forest organisms that had been there. Nevertheless, if they're left to Nature's hand, today's forests will in time become very much like the forests of old, although likely with a different mix of species. As you said, it will take several centuries, but there's no better time than now to let them continue on their journey; in most of New England they've already got well over a century on the books. Let's let them continue without interference from us.

@-LiveFreeorDie 4 күн бұрын

Thank you for the incredible documentary series. I genuinely cant believe the amount of negativity and nitpickiness in the comments on such a great educational piece. Nothing will ever be good enough for some I suppose. If only they genuinely contributed to something as much as they nitpicked.

@NewEnglandForests 4 күн бұрын

Thanks, that’s just how it is with some people. I think they could use some quality time quietly observing things in a serene forest setting.

@coltoncardinal313 5 күн бұрын

So cool!

@8754sspy 6 күн бұрын

This and all the NEF productions are remarkably good - rich in content, great presentation, really well done. Better than almost anything else out there.

@scoradtube 6 күн бұрын

I love these videos. High production 'Nature Documentaries" have gotten so terrible in the last decade. Sure there are way more than there used to be, with crazy high quality video. But once they became the domain of big budget media organizations, they got put under control of typical TV producers who don't actually like nature and can't understand people who do. So you end up with these painfully bad over-dramatizations and obnoxious ADHD informed quick cut editing. I'm looking at you Nat GEO. New England Forests make nature documentaries for nature lovers. Patient photography. A deep interest in the subject. A calm, pleasant watch that makes you feel like you're really out there with them. I can feel my blood pressure dropping in the first 30 seconds of the video.

@user-qs7gx7rp7m 6 күн бұрын

Just moved to a 250 acre farm divided in half by two shallow gullies, 130 miles W of Ottawa. First settled in the year 1900 by a family from England. Stone walls are everywhere running N-S 200 & 300 paces apart. Some are 'classic' - ca 3-4 ft tall and 6 ft wide. The tops are perfectly flat filled with small stone and may possibly have been used as roadways hauling logs in winter from the gully area. Seems most trees were logged off leaving some huge (now dead) behind but they have come back. Have nothing but admiration for the first two generations who stacked the granite rock. Found a bottle of Dr Thomas 'Electric Oil' in a tumble-down barn, dated to ca 1900 before a co. name change. Guaranteed to kill all pain when used internally or rubbed on. Research showed it contained turpentine and drugs that are very illegal today. Expect it was sorely needed for bad backs, aching muscles and stone crush injuries to foot & hand. Thank you for your valuable lesson. Will help me better understand what I'm seeing as I continue to do exploring this summer

@jamesrouillardjas1671 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for this comprehensive view of New England birches. Very informative.

@daviddawson1718 7 күн бұрын

That ain't "old growth. " When it was cut, they left big seed trees. We used to do those things. Now, cut over and replant manually is the most common. We also need prescription burns. Did you (learn) anything?

@NewEnglandForests 7 күн бұрын

Sorry, you're mistaken, that IS New England old growth forest (whether or not the trees shown are particularly old at this moment). And it's not common practice in New England to replant after cutting, it's just not necessary. Also, we don't "need" prescription burning here either... that's strictly a matter of choice to artificially maintain open or early successional habitat for our own desires.

@-LiveFreeorDie 4 күн бұрын

No better way to start your morning than seeing the sweet justice of someone making an unnecessarily passive aggressive comment on an incredible video, and getting owned. You must be from out west. I'm born and raised in New Hampshire and have multiple friends in the logging industry. Replanting is an extraordinarily rare practice done under specific circumstances.

@MDLB78 8 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for this series. I’ve watched each episode more times than I can count. I’m in NE Ontario and just purchased 5 that abuts a beautiful beaver pond. It’s such a beautiful location and I’ve learned so much thanks to this series. You are very talented and informative. Thank you.

@abydosianchulac2 8 күн бұрын

I wish you'd found more material for _papyrifera_ on your walks - those are my favorite - but these trees you all found are incredible.

@bookbunny16 9 күн бұрын

Salamanders are so cute! Great video :)

@atlasiroh5095 9 күн бұрын

Incredible. Thank you for sharing!

@smoothbrain8519 10 күн бұрын

Beautiful, informative, compelling. Thank you for sharing this film with us.

@bionicloaf 10 күн бұрын

this is some of the best content on youtube

@philipcurley7854 12 күн бұрын

Happy Earth day, Tom. Thank you for this important video I come back to watch year after year.

@tompelham7035 12 күн бұрын

A beautiful thing! Where is this footage taken? An arborist from the Catskill Mnt region of NY, there are some small patches of old growth timber. Much to be appreciated

@NewEnglandForests 11 күн бұрын

This was filmed in Massachusetts and Connecticut.

@djsi38t 13 күн бұрын

There is a fantastic beaver pond on the evergreen valley road just off rte.113 in Chatham NH...right on the maine border near the evans notch wilderness.There is even a nice blind where you can observe in relative camouflage.Its one of my most favorite places in the white mountains of maine and N.H...It is huge and well worth exploring if you ever find yourself up near Fryeburg Maine..

@dosgatosnegros 15 күн бұрын

Awesome video. Narrator is great. Reminds me of Marlin Perkins. Beautiful habitat.

@hollybritton7255 16 күн бұрын

So interesting!!

@Sound_of_the_trees 16 күн бұрын

save old growth. the logging industry has bought Canada's politicians

@-LiveFreeorDie 4 күн бұрын

The logging industry, and everyone else, have bought Canada's politicians.

@slavicsoup7762 16 күн бұрын

Did original old-growth forests have as much underbrush as many of the preserved forests we see today? I have seen lots of areas which claim to be "old-growth." There's definitely old trees here and there, but there are often younger trees which couldn't be more than 20 years old with lots of underbrush. Was this common in virgin forests before logging, or are many younger trees within the forests the result of human disturbance?

@NewEnglandForests 16 күн бұрын

New England’s old growth forests are not a static community of just old trees. They are always subject to storms and other natural disturbances that kill and/or knock down trees, and which create openings in the canopy that lets light reach the ground, promoting new growth. So, the forest is naturally a random patchwork of mixed tree ages, from seedlings to aged monarchs. Shrubs and herbaceous plants benefit from the canopy gaps too, resulting in a structurally and biologically complex community that isn’t found in a forest managed by humans. Not having seen the forests you’re referring to, it’s hard to say if the term “old growth” applies to them. Plus, different people use the term differently. Remember too that not all old trees are necessarily large, and not all large trees are particularly old. There’s often a tendency to think a big fat tree “must be” hundreds of years old; but if it had grown in the open for much of its life (and maybe now is surrounded by young forest), it may be considerably younger than imagined. Conversely, many smaller-diameter trees whose growth has been suppressed by lack of light below a closed canopy can be far older than imagined. I have cored a black birch that was a mere six inches in diameter at its base, yet was just over 100 years old; another that was 22” diameter was 270 years old. That’s why it’s necessary to learn and judge other characteristics of old trees, not just size, when trying to assess the age category of a forest.

@slavicsoup7762 16 күн бұрын

@@NewEnglandForests Thank you for your wisdom. A particular forest I was talking about as an example would be Cathedral Pines in northern Wisconsin. Much of the ground is very flat and quite firm, and the preserved part of the forest is very easy to walk through. But this is most likely due to the podzol which comes from the pine trees/needles from my understanding. I wonder how closely the biodiversity of the old growth forests we have left is anything up to par with how the forests looked before settling and logging. As you mentioned, many forests are just beginning to return to their early adulthood stages. I wonder how drastically the biodiversity changes as the forests become much (200-300 years) older, assuming they are left undisturbed. From my very limited experience, it seems quite difficult to differentiate old growth forests from new growth, as the remaining forests we have exist in very limited sizes.

@NewEnglandForests 16 күн бұрын

If a forest is actually an ancient remnant that has never been manipulated by humans, then I would expect its biodiversity to still be intact. But that can be variable depending on the size of the remnant and what disturbances have occurred in its recent history. Eg, an old growth stand of, say, mostly pines (like your example ) may have come about as a result of a hardwood stand having been blown down in the past. So, while the current forest consists of old pines, that’s just what happens to be there at this moment, and its diversity and composition will change over time when the pines eventually get replaced by whatever happens to come next. That pine stand is just a small patch of what used to be a huge, multi-aged, diverse virgin forest complex. Total plant and animal biodiversity of a given piece of forest land will vary with its current vegetation composition; conifer stands such as pine and hemlock have lower biodiversity than hardwood and mixed stands. But I too often wish I could see the vast pre-settlement primeval forest, and I’d give somebody’s right arm for that experience.

@NatsAstrea 18 күн бұрын

This is extremely interesting. Except that bittersweet field made me want to fetch my flame thrower.

@vervi1jw1 19 күн бұрын

I have 66 acres in NW Michigan. Was timbered sometime in the 1800s. The property now has hundreds of huge white pines. I will never cut them. They are too beautiful.

@NatsAstrea 21 күн бұрын

Thanks for this video and all the other ones in this series, and your answer to my earlier question. Can you also identify the bird calling at 40:41?

@NewEnglandForests 21 күн бұрын

That's a veery.

@NatsAstrea 17 күн бұрын

@@NewEnglandForests Thanks again!

@NatsAstrea 21 күн бұрын

What is the fruit the cedar waxwing is eating at 2:30? Is that a shrub or a tree?

@NewEnglandForests 21 күн бұрын

That is Autumn Olive, which is a non-native, invasive shrub (but the ripe fruits ARE tasty!).

@louispeddiltton47 24 күн бұрын

I am going to 100% say sheep did not eat 100% of the forests in Connecticut. We have 192 swamps. A sheep cannot eat through a swamp. So, we definitely have old forests here. Im not sure where you got your information, but it sounds wrong. And id really like it if New England stopped trying to cater to this "lost grandeur" attitude.

@NewEnglandForests 24 күн бұрын

We did not say that sheep ate the forest. In central New England about 80% of the land was cleared for agricultural (and other) use by the 19th century. Much of that land was cleared for sheep pasture. I suggest you watch our film “The Lost Forests of New England“ for an explanation by ecologist Tom Wessels. There is a very small amount of remnant old forest in Connecticut (and New England), but most of the rest is not much older than about 120 years or so. As forests go, that’s not old.

@SAMSAM-si1bk 11 күн бұрын

In region 9 which is New England the usfs defines old growth as starting between 100 and 160 years. Characteristics start to accumulate - the exact characteristics you describe. We need to differentiate between “virgin” forest and old-growth so that people understand what treasures we do have and advocate for them. Everything is not broken!, and the old recovering forests are amazing and are already showing us a glimpse …

@-LiveFreeorDie 4 күн бұрын

I would really like to know, what attitude should New Englanders have about New England?

@FryingTiger 25 күн бұрын

Railroad ties are made of hemlock, by the way. It is also very abundant in Michigan.

@NewEnglandForests 25 күн бұрын

A large number of wood species have been used for railroad crossties.

@IsleOfFeldspar 25 күн бұрын

This bug is annoying but i’m more concerned about whatever is burrowing into the bark of mature pines near the ground and leaving gray bulbous masses of pitch.

@NatsAstrea 25 күн бұрын

That's the Dewey-Granby Oak, on Day Street in Granby, and it is a sight!

@forestgreen916 26 күн бұрын

nuthatches are the tree frog sounding bird -- T H A N K Y O U !

@aazhie 27 күн бұрын

wild how the birches have to grow out of the nurse logs and upturned dirt from fallen elders

@louispeddiltton47 28 күн бұрын

Central new englad had the 80% less woodlands? Not the rest...?

@NewEnglandForests 28 күн бұрын

That’s correct. The steeper, more mountainous areas were not cleared for agriculture.

@user-yj9jl2ss6u 29 күн бұрын

Interestingly, I live on the North shore of Lake Ontario and there is, what is described as 'A rare Burr Oak Savannah'. Far from the boundaries shown here for the Burr Oak. It is on a small peninsula of exposed Canadian Shield and it is a small family of ancient looking sentinels that stand in contrast to the surrounding Junipers. Great, informative video and the live footage with nature's sound track, makes it. Worth a 'Like' for sure. Thanks and take care, from Ontario, Canada...

@ajadrew Ай бұрын

Us English have a lot to answer for &, for what it's worth, I apoligise for the actions of my predecessors. I plant trees where ever I can & have a love for woodland which I beleive all us commentators share 😊

@honeyLXIX Ай бұрын

i love hiking by the beaver dam and beaver den in my area. theyre one of the most important creatures for restoring the wetlands that humans destroy with their vast settlement. wetlands are rich with wildlife and needed to keep forests "wet" and avoid devastating wild fires. i love beavers and their work restoring human damage is phenomenonal. 🦫 ❤❤❤

@dantehajime709 Ай бұрын

This is some next level documentary, the footage and quality is amazing!

@ssgg23 Ай бұрын

This guy is a badass

@laurenbrandon7699 Ай бұрын

I was cheating and watching another beaver documentary. I guess it was a short one, because I heard your voice when I came back to the room 25-30 minutes later. 😂

@NewEnglandForests Ай бұрын

Well, they say confession is good for the soul. For your penance, you will watch all 5 "Beaver Pond Wildlife" parts.

@user-hs9kj5bh1h Ай бұрын

au this is so painfull history ...... cut the king and let it grow

@RenataDemello-dt8tv Ай бұрын

👏💐🗽✨

@travistaylor4342 Ай бұрын

In the United States, after they clear a forest for lumber, they replant a new one, and I love that

@NewEnglandForests Ай бұрын

But what you're not realizing is that, with such a practice, a once-diverse, biologically complex forest has been totally removed, then replaced with a monoculture crop of trees, which is not a forest. That kind of exploitation is ill-conceived, and will not stand the test of time. It seriously degrades the natural landscape, and we will pay a heavy price for that.

@travistaylor4342 Ай бұрын

@NewEnglandForests yea, but what can you do? It's better than nothing

@NewEnglandForests Ай бұрын

Barely, if at all. Replanting a monoculture is likely worse than letting the various native species come in on their own. Of course, that doesn't fit well with a timber harvesting plan. But it's not sustainable in the long term, and is definitely not wise ecologically speaking.

@pasca1177 9 күн бұрын

It's actually alot better to harvest 80-90% of the trees and leave some healthy seed producing ones that will repopulate the area. It's an old method that was practiced for centuries in Europe, way before forestry science was a thing.

@catherinemccormack2919 Ай бұрын

my favorite video ever, thank you. Indeed, since first watching this a couple months ago I have planted two young Pine trees in my back yard. It is esquisit joy to watch them grow. Thanks again.

@IsleOfFeldspar Ай бұрын

Return of what? The chestnut are gone the hemlock are wiped out the elm are mostly gone the beech are a diseased ruin the ash are swiftly disappearing etc

@dawnhughes9942 Ай бұрын

Wonderful video. Thank you. When I was youngee I thought state and federal forest meant the trees were protected. Now I see they treat the trees like any other agricultural commodity to be harvested. I hope the efforts to conserve some forest as forever free and wild is successful.

@techfixr2012 Ай бұрын

Dutch Elm disease really changed Vermont in the mid 80's.

@nicolelaw4469 Ай бұрын

this is so comforting and interesting

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