after Wimbledon 2024 final we can safly say there is No Goat because if Alcaraz came 10 years ago Novak would never win a Wimbledon because Alcarqz would dominate over him 😊

@@rogersalllike9133 actually I agree with you. We can say best in his era. Different time, different rules, different occasion.

@@fraerot YES in my opinion we will never see a Goat in tennis or any sport because it always depends If Novak played during Sampras era maybe Novak would never win a slam If Sampras played in Rogers era Sampras would maybe never win a slam So a Goat is just about an accomplishments in your period of time because after that time or before that time there could be a player that would be your Kriptonyte stopping you from achieving greatness like Wawrinka Wawrinka dominated over Novak the last 10 years so if Wawrinka was younger now he would probably beat Novak in many finals but unfortunately Wawrinka is old and not so consistent to meet Novak in slams because of draw

No, only the clay goat 😂

Let me guess, you are from the US. lol

@@erikdejong9728 You're argument is weak.

I agree. Sampras is the goat

@Jlymansackhead, I agree with everything you say, and Sampras would be my GOAT, except I feel Laver's TWO calendar year Grand Slams, SEVEN YEARS apart, put him in a class apart.

interestingly the main argument against Jordan is the same as the main argument as Sampras: they were not pushed by a great rival. The other greats of their sports played before and after them. This is not *technically* true of Jordan, whose career overlapped Bird and Magic...then again, he never won while those two were in their prime.

Novak now is the best with 22 slams +38 Masters + 6 ATP Finals. Nadal is just behind

LOL thx ! ;) for me the only goat is djokovic ... for one clear and obvious reason : he can clearly explain ( like you did) that there is no goat ;) note, now , many papers explains there is no goat ( after the fedal failure ^^^) It is the Djokovic's legacy :)

what a hell you are talking about??? Where is Djokovic in your comment ??? He got all important numbers in tennis and 3 from above gentlemen has label him (novak) as the goat. I always put Murray amoung the 3 greats

A true competitor. Never let up on anyone.

It’s a shame Sampras retired at 31 on 14 majors. I wonder if he secretly regrets retiring so young.

Neither did this comment, nor saying Player X is the greatest ever because we never know who will dominate the sport in the future (21-25 definitely seems attainable to those who have the gifts and put in the work to dominate year in year out). Imo weird that the goat debate is Always mentioned, every tournament- a pedestal that is more opinion than fact. The only consensus seems to be slam count. Nobody remembers every moment of every slam, who had easier draws, top peak ability, comebacks, bitter defeats (not that that takes one out of contention from greatest of an era, all players have had weird slam losses) so at the end of the day, it's mostly just a number. I mean, just enjoying one's favorite players legacy/ the epic matches & rivalries seems to be more fun and fulfilling than trying to race to the finish and see who is on top for slam count (could indeed end tie for all we know...) For sure imo at this point in time it seems a case can be made for any of the 'big 3', even if perhaps they doped some, they had all the money in the world and then some, yet still beat up their bodies and laid it all on the line for so many years. So many legends produced from tennis, crazy (maybe like with iconic rockstars, people take them for granted while they are at their peak & maybe there will be several decades without such presences/ talents...)

that is a very naive statement. first of all, his first gs was not amongst even the best players. people who do not know the history of the game make a huge mistake when they start using grand slam titles as the biggest criteria. in the olden days, it just was not so. first, when professional tennis started, they could not even compete in grand slams. and most of the best players did not travel to australia and/or the french. rosewall beat laver in the first 2 wct championships. this was a way bigger feat than winning a grand slam tournament. as laver mentioned, rosewall, gonzales and hoad (to a bit of a lesser extent) go right along with laver.

which led to the days of the 90's servebot and volley 2-shot "rallies" when people turned off ATP Wimbledon and more viewers watched the WTA version of all things!