Thank you in raising the most important issue , that of Repentance. I certainly can’t recall any Bishop or Archbishop calling either the nation or church to Repentance. Not over recent decades !

Thx for BBTB 🎉

As an American who would love to worship in a CofE church while traveling to the UK,I couldn't bring myself to do it with what's going on in the pulpit. Barely any men,overrun with female deacons and vicars,rife with LGBTQ+ people in the pulpit. Ick.

By arguing for this separation evangelicals seem to just be accepting this is the way things are going to go. Why aren't we pushing back and trying to stop it entirely? Our prayer should not be that they "accomodate" people who still hold to the Bible, it should be that the whole church repents.

Galatians 1:8-9. May they be accursed.

The C of E has been a synagogue of Satan for some time. Heretical and doing the Jezebel thing. It is absolutely clear. Supporting such an organisation with time and money is itself sinful. God's judgement is on the organisation and its paying members. All who are in in or part of it will suffer what is said in Revelation 18: 4-5. It is no longer time to remain. Suggesting otherwise is a dangerous form of complicity in evil.

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Part of the problem with the mindset within the Church of England and even the CoE evangelicals can be summed up by what Ed Shaw said at 2:26, he considers that it is a "negative" outcome that "irreconcilable differences" were exposed within CoE concerning views about sexuality and gender - it shows a pervasive attitude that divisive issues can be swept underneath the surface for the sake of unity. I consider it a positive and necessary action that light and truth shines in the darkness and shows up what is false teaching and that false teachers are seen as wolves. Even now, our evangelical leaders are unwilling to call out bishops who lead others into false teaching as heretics so that us sheep in CoE remain in unnecessary confusion.

If I were able to ask questions in Synod (of the liberals) they would be these 1. If you were confident that the Bible did forbid homosexual relationships, would you submit to that? 2. Assuming yes, how would the Bible have to have worded it to convince you? I'm not at all confident that the answer to 1 would be an unequivocal Yes. No doubt there'd be some saying Well, if Jesus had said it yes, but Paul I don't respect. Or else a relativisation of the issue: 'times have moved on'. On question 2 I'm not sure how the Bible can be more clear to be honest but I'd love to hear it.

Core issue ~ @12:51 "... do we believe the gospel is about God affirming us as we are or do we believe the gospel is a call to repentance and transformation into the likeness of Christ -- which is for all of us, no matter our particular experience?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXPLhWyfrd2aaLcsi=PGUD6pqBgQ2ELaoV&t=771

"The doctrine of the church has not changed but practice is...?" The CofE is a joke. Either you follow what the Bible says or you don't.

I wonder about the repenting of homophobia thing. You see for many it seems that repenting of homophobia mens different things to dofferent people. If you have the view that this repenrance means total acceptance of all things same sex, then they will see that repentance as hollow or hypocritical. If it is about welcoming all leople to the throne of grace, and loving people, then I dont currently knoe of anyone who would dream of not doing so, and as such have nothibg to repent of. To thus "repent" would also be hyposritical. All who call on the name, and make Jesus Lord will be saved, but part of this gospel is that there is repentance. To not do so is not to make him Lord. Therefore the exclusion may well be self imposed. We welcome all, and then make tje appeal of the gospel. We dont welcome all and say that the cleansing of amd fkrgiveness flr sin makes the sin holy, but we welcome the person. If however someone has an identity that makes them a familiar with sin the appeal ks to reject that.

We may say we are not homophobic but as far as LGBT people are concerned we are.

Regional or national Church authorities pretending to have authority over the local church are completely unbiblical, a holdover from the days of the Roman "church."

Why should evangelicals remain in the COE, which in its modern iteration, is clearly now a non-Christian denomination?

This is a great video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKPWhKugr7SohMU God has given her lots of prophetic messages too

Brilliant and painful testimony. Thank you for sharing your story, Jason!

This was very welcome and from some most inspiring individuals. Yes, there were a few non sequiturs and unconscious or conscious assumptions that were somewhat misleading and a little too general, but no church could be anything but impressed by the desire shown here for our churches and Christians to be more faithful to the biblical vision of humanity. It was unfortunate that in setting the scene the chairperson fell into the trap of quoting statistics and ratios. A statistic or a ratio on its own is not enough: it can and does here present a misleading and unhelpful impression. One has to look at the context and ask how that statistic is being used. Quoting the government's Race Disparity Audit's figures on poverty and arrests as examples of injustice and inequality without explanation, context, and apposite comparisons only serves to create guilt and fear. This is also true when talking about 'representation''. According to the last census, the UK was 87% white and 3% black: this has certain consequences with regard to representation. It would also have been of help in surveying the scene and the problem if the participants had said something about the hugely significant factors of culture, class, and circumstances which, as leading black intellectuals in the US have stressed, are responsible for many of the injustice and poverty outcomes the responsibility for which others would prefer to lay at the feet of such scientifically and academically unsound but politically and emotionally attractive concepts as 'systemic racism', 'white privilege', 'unconscious bias', etc. So whilst being 'wise' regarding 1 John 4: 1, we need always to keep 1 John 4: 11 in the vanguard of our thoughts and actions.

What a wonderful group; what a wonderful conversation; what wonderful truths arising from faith in Christ. thank you!

I am pleased with this.

In the story he says he was stopped because of the clothes he was wearing, not the colour of his skin.

Such a well thought out discussion. Thank you for creating this film