My guess is it was like calling a Greek "Turk" or, may Allah forgive me for uttering this name, an "Albanian"

Pretty sure that was the Westerosi equivalent of calling a black man born and raised in England a Nigerian

Criston is from the Dornish Marches. He's a Westerosi from the Seven Kingdoms in the books and the show, but he probably has a Dornish mother in the show since his father was a steward for House Dondarrion and I doubt the Dondarrions are gonna have a Dornishman as their steward. I doubt every stormlander in the Dornish Marches hate the Dornish. Maybe it was a forbidden love type thing, I dunno.

In an earlier episode, I believe ep 1...the show refers to cole as dornish (yes, I know he's not dornish in the books; however he's just said to be the son of the steward. A knight, for sure, but not said to be dornish or otherwise)

I think he’s outright called Dornish in season 1

The show changed it and established that he's Dornish. At the tourney, where he beat Deamon, Alicent states: "oh he's Dornish" to Rhsenyra. In the book, he's from the Dornish Marches and is the son of the steward of Blackhaven, which is in the Stormlands.

The show established that he's Dornish. Don't know if it's different in the books, but it made sense show-wise.

In episode 1 of season 1 Alicent says "Gods, he's dornish" when she sees Criston without his helmet on. I'm assuming Criston has a dornishman's complexion despite being from the Stormlands. I guess you could relate this to Cristion being hispanic and being from Gibraltar which is British territory

He is of Dornish descent, but born and raised in Blackhaven

I think the show just made Cole either full or half Dornish

Question sir who do think will win duel between maegor the cruel vs robert baratheon

Bruh in season finale Gwayne literally calls him, "steward's son from Dorne". Alicent also said "God's he's Dornish" in S1E1. Idk what you're talking about.

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Well, I’m glad you explained it to me because I didn’t get the joke, either. I thought Cole was from Dorne based on what Alicent said in the very first episode. But, maybe she didn’t realize, either. Alicent and Gwayne strike me as the Westeros version of the kind of kids I grew up with. Although they live in Manhattan, their family lives on Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue, so they know nothing of the borough above 96th Street or below 23rd Street. In other words, to translate for you non-New Yorkers, they are completely ignorant of any neighborhood that’s diverse or artistic or non-white or economically challenged or any combination of the above.

In one sense it was *just a joke*, either by Gwayne or against. In another it was an intriguing comment on frontier societies, their hybrid culture, and the way outsiders perceive them.

I genuinely can’t tell, initially I thought he was just trying to annoy him, but in the finale he referred to him as Dornish again in a much more serious conversation. So can’t tell if it’s: 1. Gwayne is a perpetual troll 2. The Hightowers are geographically brain dead, despite Oldtown being the center of learning in Westeros. Would also be very ironic because the reach has its own Dornish Marches and Marcher lords as well, most notably the Tarlys and GRRM’s favorite punching bag, the Peakes. 3. The show changed his origin to be Dornish, rather than Marcher.

I’m pretty sure it was gywane being racist and classist because Cole is actually half dornish in the show and extremely low born the sone of a Stuard of house dondarrian, plus the dornish fought the reach for many decades before the targaryians and even after aegons conquest the dornish aren’t a part of the seven kingdoms and they wage guerillia campaigns against the reach and storm lands often, so these two factors combine to make gwyane feel slighted by having to follow Cole and after this episode when Cole saves gwyanes life and leads a successful campaign in the crownlands against the blacks gwyane starts to respect Cole for his millitary mind It’s honestly a very interesting moment that sums up cristions expirence as a kingsguard in kings landing being discriminated against for his low birth and ethnicity but warning the respect of high lords and ladies through this competence

In season 1 Cole was referred as a Dornish.

The Dornish Marches, i think the idea that westeros doesnt have cultural mixing as you get closer to kingdoms borders is not really all that farfecthed. What would stop a peasant in Wyl who worked a farm who lost his work to work on a farm in Blackhaven? This isn't a modern society with visas and border entries

He’s Italian

if only there was some way for people living in Oldtown to have access to geographical knowledge

Monday on a Saturday this week 😅❤

Gwen is seriously underrated character.

On S1 when he was revealed; either Rhaenyra or Alicent, cant remember which, say "oh he's dornish" or something to that effect. So i guess it's more of a snark comment on his ancestry than his homecountry.

You have a very Pittsburgh accent lol

The show called him Dornish in episode 1

More likely the showrunners didn’t know the difference between the dornish marches and Dorne proper.

The thing is... they say the same thing in season 1, that he is a Dornishmen... so I don't know if it's a joke or show-canon that he is indeed Dornish.

I love Simon Strong, he reminds me of an older Sam Tarly, and his facial expressions kill me. Oscar Tully is the goat. I love how he appeared green at first ( and he is ) then immediately sh*tted on Daemon LMAO. We love to see it.

I think he is Dornish and it will still end up being meaningful to his character, in time.

It makes sense that Cole is Dornish by descent but raised on the other side of the border. This was often the situation in the Welsh Marches between the Medieval Welsh Kingdoms and England in the middle ages: there were Welsh people on both sides of the border with different political allegiances. The marcher lords themselves were Norman/English descended often with high amounts of Welsh blood, and they ruled over mixed populations - Welsh, English, Normans, Flemish etc. GRRM himself has said that Dorne takes much of its inspiration from Medieval Wales (in its history, laws, customs etc.) and the marches are clearly based on the marcher lordships of Medieval Britain.

I just know there is so much more to Saera, I dont trust the words of a Maester based on information passed down from several other untrustworthy sources

Saera was crazy for comparing herself to maegor infront of jaehaerys 😬

I would have fed her to Vermithor. After all her friends, of course.

Yes it was intentional and yes he's very calculating. Their parents instilled politics in them both, one to marry well and the other to bring honor. Otto believed he was the star of their show and he also told him who is banging his sister 😂😂

They mention it in Season 1 episode 1 when he's introduced at the tourney: Criston is part-Dornish ("has some Dornish blood in him," I believe they phrased it).

What's genius here? It's like how some people are calling any Slavs Russian, including Ukrainians. Either deliberately trying to offend someone or being ignorant.

When he took his helmet off, didn’t Rhaenrya or Alicent say he was Dornish at that Knight competition, that day her mom died giving birth?

All 3 dragonseeds so far have one thing in common besides Valyrian blood. "Ok, fuck it. FINE. Kill me already." It's like they have to completely give up on their life for a dragon to let them start a new one.

It's no genius comedy, just racism.

oscar tully was a beast

do we know how much time it takes to send a crow to dragonstone from king's landing? because you can establish a pretty good spy operation just sending messages whatever someone sees aemond with vaghar

Missed you last week bro! I have a schedule of HOTD analysis videos that I watch throughout the week in wait for the new episode and knew I wasn’t tripping when I was one short haha 😂

Remember all the books Hightowers have nearby? One might gain some skill

The Tully’s definitely feel like upper middle management.

All the other houses are just butt hurt because they didn’t see the potential of that land.

Oscar Tully gonna change all that

Rhaenyra: You saw combat in the Stormlands. Criston: Dornish marches, Princess. I fought for a year as a foot soldier against the Dornish incursions.

House Tully and the Riverlands can show their teeth at times as we saw during The Dance, where they did the bulk of the fighting for the Blacks. The Riverlands became where Green armies go to die. During GoT Tywin did a better job at causing disorder in the Riverlands. Once their Stark allies were eliminated all the Lannisters had to do was mop up in Feast for Crows.