A rabbit hole 😮

bro how did you get your Davinci looking THAT ugly

Are the red text and icons in your UI an Apple thing or can it be changed in preferences ?

super interesting and informative video. love your presentation style

you're suppose to calibrate lcd computer monitors too with usb calibration as a professional, and it will look the same as your source and when exporting too. learn before you post misinformation to people. you can even match very closely two lcd monitors from different brands even.

Judging from the thumbnail, you guys edit on black and white monitors. No harm intended ;)

Just stumbled on this as Im getting ready to go OLED...glad to see it!

Ok cool, but what if you're only delivering for the web and not broadcast?

I have no respect for colour graders. All they ever do is make the image look like shit. Ugly teal-and-orange, ugly desaturation. Bane of the fucking industry.

Dude, switch to PC! 😆

This is a great video! What I still don't get is... If your sony e-lens has an internal focus motor... do I still need to install the outer focus motor of the ronin 4D?

What’s that broadcast monitor called?

I know this is a year later. But for the white balance, all you do is hold down the white balance button and then you can set custom stops.

There are spectral distributions differences between the display types, time between calibrations and metamerism that all come into play.

So, You'r that looser, who using Apple screen, not invested to normal screen, hawing chaos in your software, and "teaching" others to due same? Bravissimo ;)

Dude is clueless! If he brings up same video in Final Cut and Davinci and they don’t look same it means only one thing - his davinci is not properly set up for mac color management. If set up properly both should show identical image! Same with external monitor via sdi - if properly calibrated there simply CANNOT BE such glaring difference between displays!

thanks! I dont get how this is the first i find on this front, this is quite some vital information if youre into buying a 4D

Thanks!

Could you recommend some monitors for £1000 or under a please. Just getting into colour grading. Also, the apple studio display has a bionic chip in it.. is that able to replace the need for an I/O device?

Thank you for this video. I would like to see another one in which you show that all 3 editing programs have the same colors via SDI on a reference monitor. My point is if the reference monitor will show the same image in each software. (Not just the editing software.)

but you're using mac OS which is notoriously bad for colors

A valuable lesson. Thanks for this video!

Hey Charles, would it make a difference if the Studio Display was connected via the UltraStudio 3G instead of strictly USB-C/Thunderbolt? Pardon if that is the current setup in this video from the beginning. Also, there was a Reddit post saying that the Video Clean Feed feature was implemented to output the cleanest possible signal when you don't have an I/O box. Have you heard anything about this? Thank you for a great video and taking the time produce informative content.

The most down to earth breakdown on KZbin. Thank you so much for making this video.

What a fantastic video I had no idea but it makes so much sense. Do you think it’s the same for stills? I suppose photoshop, capture one, instagram, safari, chrome all have some form of processing.

My camera captures in 12 bit colour. Most monitors and TV's are 8 bit colour. There are production monitors that handle 10 bit colour, but they are very expensive. FRC, frame rate control, tempral dithering and is a "trick of the eye" that manipulates images to mimic true 10 bit colour. Blackmagic Design Monitor PCIe cards are 10 bit color, but you need a proper monitor to give proper results.

Not to de-emphasize the importance of a proper color grading monitor and an SDI output, just a today's note : Loading up the same file in Resolve, Premiere and VLC on an Eizo CG monitor gives me an identical image so as I understand and see, these particular software read the file in the same way. Quicktime of course gives me the usual gamma shift. The monitor itself is connected through Thunderbolt and is being used as a GUI monitor, so nothing fancy on that end. Honestly, having 3 calibrated displays in my sight right now (macbook pro 2021, eizo cg279x and an LG OLED tv) I can't seem to spot any wild color temperature discrepancies your monitors show up in this video. Regarding the differences between Chrome, Safari etc, same experience as yours.

I even see a little color difference between the video capture, from the computer, and the colors that were recorded from the camera pointed at the screen.

I’m just starting to look into video editing and color grading. I want to make nature and travel videos, primarily (at least to start) with my iPhone. I was planning on using Resolve on an iPad Pro for editing while on the road and was considering an Apple Studio Display. I was thinking the studio display would give me more accurate color than the iPad screen. Now I’m totally lost on what to do, if everyone is going to be seeing it differently. I expect most people will be watching the videos via KZbin on their phones or computers. Any advice?

You're probably looking at someone making a Bluetooth controlled "Follow Focus" style device before you get to smoother zoom. This has me a little excited about the future of independent documentary makers. The footage of you, even with the red shadows, was easily passible for use in that arena.

You know, there is a little thing called calibration and color workflow that you almost completely skipped. What a trash video, randombly mumbling and mixing terms, workflows, end results.

I am relatively new to doing color grading on a professional level. I have been noticing that the blacks seem more crushed on the studio display VS my grading monitor. I would be interested in hearing your opinion. Example: I'll edit say a wedding video, a black suit will be lower on the waveform but not crushed, I can still see detail on my grading monitor but on the studio display it's pretty much flat black. Is this something you have encountered/noticed as well or is the matte finish of my grading monitor playing tricks on me?

Which software is the most accurate in your opinion?

Wow!! I feel like a dumbass... i had no idea! And its supposed to be my job.. thank you for this valuable input

The mac studio display is also only 95% DCI P3 accurate, it's white points are off compared to the DCI standards and there are a couple compression issues (From recollection in green). Better (and cheaper) to get a great oled display (or get the same display as the mac for 1/3 the price and it works on PC from LG). I wouldn't even bother using Chrome or another webbrowser for determining accuracy as they compress the video data into different colour spaces, especially when you do not run the video at fullscreen (as they target different profiles to make webpages 'pop') for instance Firefox allows for 10bit colours but safari only allows for 8bit (much like the video/monitor output on a mac used to compress native 10bit to 8bit FRC for output before it even hit the monitor). And while chrome allows for 10bits per channel in colour, their profile uses a much different saturation to firefox (pop in the same colours using a 10bit RGB hex and compare the windows side-by-side on 1 monitor). Chrome will also vary on an Apple compared to a PC due to the fact Apple force them to use Apples Web engine (all browsers have to use this on MacOs/iOS). You also get a major difference between PC and Apple, Apple likes to control how the colours are displayed, profiles are a PITA to enforce on them and often output ignores them unless the monitor is also Apple-branded and high-end. Apple also do not fully support the displayport standards for cable communications. Windows/Linux don't care because the output is handled by the graphics card drivers, as long as your card and monitor can handle profiles you can install a profile that matches them up. We used to do museum prints, reproductions of 5"x6" film stock images, as well as historical restorations and we used high-end monitors that were calibrated in 3 ways, on the PC, to the monitor and then matching up with the pigments we used, this was especially important for oil reproductions. So SDI being the standard it is is great if you want a plug and play solution for something sent as Rec709, BT2020 etc., but monitors are more than capable of displaying accurate imagery. It just takes more setup, particularly if your output varies (like with oils & pigments where every batch you print with is subtly different). Now in the case of resolve, when you use a higher-end monitor, resolve attempts to use the correct profile for that specific monitor and this can go wrong, particularly if you have not calibrated your monitor and created a profile in the colour space you are targeting between the pc and monitor (or if the monitor is not up to spec like the apple display) or if you have not switched your monitor onto the correct mode. I am unsure about FCP as it has been 10 years since I supported videographers on it but I know the version of quicktime on the system could affect output of audio and some video greatly. KZbin vs vimeo is a strawman argument because not only do they use different engines, but different compression methodology. The output video from your upload is NOT the same as what you sent, they have pushed compression on the videos. So not only are you viewing a highly compressed version of your video (usually very crushed blacks), but you are viewing it on a browser which as mentioned, has their own colour profile wierdnesses. That HP monitor is pretty low-end btw (I wouldn't use it for gaming let alone any colour-based stuff). LG C3 panels with a high brightness are very good for consumer grade stuff and can reach 100% DCI P3 through a displayport connection (and I think a newer hdmi connection).

I have gone to a lot of trouble to ensure that my entire editing workflow is directly under the control of Blackmagic Design hardware and software. This minimises the chance of any compatibility issues. A colour calibrated monitor is also essential. If a client wants to see accurate results I just invite them to view the output in my workshop.

which mount you used for Canon FD?

with the new davinci shit, i m planning to go back to pc and put the biggest RTX i can put in.....very gpu crazy these new awesome effects

many corporates use windows laptops with HD screens and very veryy ultra poor colors, like 80 pc s RGB or something. and have a little blueish cast they dont know what color calibration is etc....best is to do in person review if possible with explanation of drivers etc...

I m glad i found you . This video helps me a lot . So thank you !

So, did you actually calibrate the PC monitors first? And did you make sure to get a good PC monitor to begin with?

So do you feel the purchase was worth it? Or does it feel like an expensive mavic 3 pro with better quality?

niceee!

You can't just say "I'm missing a tooth" and just move on without the story?? 😅

The clarity and style of the review are amazing and walk you through the pros and cons easily. Thank you!

Thanks really cool! Do you have some vids about which monitor to use (full apple user: MBP 14" M1) I was looking forward to buy the studio monitor. Another great topic nowadays: How to grade using the monitor on a MBP 2021 or late. You know like when ppl started to produce content in 9:16 I am sure some would not like to color grade in a normal monitor, but the times give us those tools, it'd be nice to know how can I use my monitor at the best for color grading. Thanks for this amazing vid.

Have you color-calibrated all the PC monitors though? Comparing uncalibrated monitors to calibrated monitors isn't going to give a very good result in general.

So does it even make sense to invest in a color grading monitor, such as Eivo or benq?

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Hi Charles ! I’m not a colorist , but I’m going to shoot a documentary . I was thinking to buy a SmallHD monitor for when I’m editing , maybe even Vision 24 which costs 15k. But , what I’m confused about : if I buy this monitor and spend so much money, I’ll still plug it with HDMI to my MacBook Pro, won’t it have the same problem of getting different signals from Premiere versus Resolve ? Thanks for the input :-) And great video !