Thanks for the input. What bar? That sounds interesting, but I dont fully understand what you mean. What bar do you mean? And how is your configuration now? My boxes are removed now, due to new teak below, and if there is a safer way to put them back it would be nice to know.

Thanks!

Thanks for this link. That is absolutely something I will invest in, for both my tanks.

Thanks for your comment. It motivates me to hear thinks like this.

That is interesting, what you say about the sloop vs ketch on the 33. Also thanks for the input on rope vs line. As you might understand, english is not my native language, but I'm learning every day, and especially the maritime terms are very interesting.

I played with all the settings, but never managed to get it to work. The Garmin Marine Satelite Compass solved the issue though.

Hi there. Thanks for your great comment. It sounds like a super solution with the single lever valve that does it all. Please do e-mail me information of that. I have added my e-mail in the contact section, so you can pick it up from there. (Does not work to put e-mail in this comment, YT will remove it). Tell me if you can not find it, and we will find another way. The fuel polishing I would also want, but I have not found the right way to do it yet. But it is absolutely on my list (that grows every day...) The 45 kg Ultra sounds like a beast, and I am sure you will be happy with that. Regarding the package glands, what is that?

Sorry Charlie I don't see the email address on my side of the screen. Google a "six port fuel valve" The packing gland is the part on the rudder post and drive shaft that keeps the sea water out. The water tight seal. The old type ones you put a type of rope into them and tighten to make a seal and the new ones have a rubber seal. I'm keeping my old type that has graphite rope so I can always work on it even mid ocean and stop it from leaking .

Let’s try to work around it. It is as follows: hello att jarlekarlsrud dot no

Ok hopefully that worked if I got it correct

That worked out just fine!

Thanks for you comment. It is interesting to see your solution of taking the fuel from the bottom. I can clearly see a benefit of that. Do you have a video showing this solution? Sounds like a great idea. Om our boat we remove some deciliters from the absolute bottom of the tank some times a year and then we know that it will not build up with water or nasty stuff. And regarding the Kalmar Union, we absolutely agree. That would be a very good solution. At this time, the current Union is the best we have (even if we are actually not in it), but in the future, when the world is no longer as it is today, the Kalmar Union might come back to live. And while we're waiting, let's do some sailing!

Thanks a lot. Glad you liked it.

Thanks for your comment. If I was doing it again, I would throw the can in the water with a fender. The solution showed in the video was the way we chose to do it back then. And regarding the lightweight vs heavy boat, its interesting to see what is "good" for coastal racing, not necessarily is the fastes thing out there on the ocean.

Oh, yes. Many times. The boat is 1,70 meter draft in salt water, and more in fresh water. We hit the ground several times, but no big issues. Main problem was not really in the canals, but in the harbours. Often we needed to be outside another boat, or be bow to and anchor in the aft. Not really a problem, but absolutely something to be aware of.

Den sendte vi med lastebil. Vi tok den av i Travemünde i Tyskland, og sendte den med bil derfra. Så lå den og ventet på oss i Port St Luise i Frankrike da vi kom frem dit. Kostet noen kroner, men ikke avskrekkende. Båten var ti meter og masten 16 meter, så vi ville ikke ha den på dekk.

@Sailing-Maja hvordan ordnet dere dette da? Og hva kostet de?

Det ordnet de hos Böbs Werft i Travemünde. Jeg husker ikke hva det kostet. Dette er over 20 år siden. Men hvis du tenker på å reise så bør di gjøre det. Det er en fantastisk tur.

@@Sailing-Maja tenker ta reisen i 2027, husker du ruten dere tok?

Du trenger en båt som er grunnere enn 170 cm og lavere enn 350 cm, om jeg husker rett. Masse fendere og god tid. Ellers ikke så mye mer enn en vanlig båttur her hjemme. Jeg tok et sertifikat for å kjøre på kanalene, men er usikker på om det er nødvendig.

@@Sailing-Maja vurdere ta samme ruten med ein venn av meg, hvordan planla dere turen og hvor får man tatt sertifikatet?

@RedBeardTsailor Jeg tok sertifikatet i Sverige. Det var brevkurs den gangen (2002) men det er sikkert på nett nå. Søk etter kanalbåtintyg

@@Sailing-Maja kjempe, fant de på nett, har du ein meir detaljert bilde over ruten dere tok?

@@RedBeardTsailorSøk på maps european waterways

Thanks a lot, that inspires me to continue.

Yes, I am, and I will make a video of it, and review it after some use. Stay tuned!

Thanks for your interesting thoughts. This is how I have understood the world and the physics, but I might be wrong. I checked with ChatGPT today, and asked it what it thought about the subject. It agreed with me, but it might be biased. I know that don't prove anything. I also made a Google search for "what is the benefit of a skeg on a sailboat", and Google tell me "Steering control and stability" and "he skeg is crucial for steering control and stability, preventing the boat from sliding sideways and helping maintain a straight path." So I maintain my opinion on this. Tanks anyway for your comment on this and your view on the topic.Thats how we all can learn. Cheers, and fair winds!

@Sailing-Maja just not true. You need to ask a good naval architect with experience in yacht design. I have been sailing lots of different vessels for the last 40 years of delivering yachts. I have owned a few too. My current boat is a Sundeer 60. It has a fin keel and spade rudder. Because if it's relatively narrow beam and balanced hull shape it will steer itself for hours holding course with no autopilot. Sometimes it's unclear to me if the autopilot is even on and I have to check as the rudder will not move for long periods. Because the hull shape is so balanced the immersed shape changes little with heel and so waves have a small effect. The keel is small with only 1.83m draught, though the spade rudder is large. The only other boat I have experienced this directional stability on was a NZ built Herreschoff called the "fiery cross" which is 45' long and only 7' wide. It has a similar configuration of fin keel and space rudder. None of the tens of long keel or skeg rudder boats have come close.

@@Sailing-Maja I would also not that the word "skeg" also refers to the fin at the back of a surfboard, windsurfer, SUP board etc which IS there to provide directional stability.

The main function of a skeg on a sailing yacht is to protect the rudder from impact damage from objects in the water and to offer support at the bearing at the lower end skeg/rudder. In fact most skegs are quite weak as they are notoriously difficult to laminate and or fix it the hull. The skegged rudders on metal boats are quite different and very strong. Many FRP skegs are only ornamental.

Noted. In my part of the world that is a common term for the hull shape in front of the rudder.

Thank you.

These things make life worth living.

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We discussed a few things, and ended up on this solution. There might be a ton of other ways to do it, but this worked out quite well.

Thanks!

It is easy to sail in your own living room....

YEs, getting this up from the water in a moving boat is a work on its own.

Thanks for your comment. I want to understang. Why do you think this is clickbait?

Well, there was not an emergency. They had almost ran out of fuel, but everything else was working (as far as I know, I was not onboard, and I do not know anything of the conditions and moods onboard that boat). The emergency was not life-threatening, but I guess they were tired and wet and cold and wanted to get to the Azores within reasonable time. It took us days of sailing in calm wind conditions to reach them. As you can see from the video, the wind had picked up at the time we managed to reach them, and they might have been able to sail all the way to the Azores. But with still about a week to sail, they could not know for how long they would have wind. The wind might die again. OK, then they just need to wait a few days or a week, and the wind will come back, but with the wet and cold conditions, and who knows how motivated they really were for this passage, they wanted to get to the Azores in reasonable time. Not because it was an emergency, but because they wanted to. Getting about 10 Gallons / 35 Lites of fuel would help them to get progress in case the wind died again. We had plenty of fuel, and when we understood they were almost empty we offered them help. It was not a life saving help, but it gave them more security getting to their destination in a reasonable time. And it was fun doing it, and gave us real life experience. I had a video camera with me, and filmed this. Remember, this was two years before KZbin was launched, so we did not film this in order to show the world. It was meant for our family video. Anyway, fast forward 20 years, and it is now on KZbin.

Thanks for the comprehensive response. Was a great opportunity for you to exercise some skills which few of us get the chance to do until it IS an emergency. Go well.

Sailing across the Atlantic takes about three weeks, depending on a lot of factors. By the time this happened we had been sailing for about two weeks, and we had long periods of very little wind. In order to get into areas with wind, several boats had burned fuel to move. Of course you can wait for wind, but that exposes you to other dangers, like running out of water and food. Our boat and our crew was able to sail in less wind, but the less modern yacht in need had used more fuel and had almost ran out. I dont know the situation in that boat. They might have argued. It might have been a bad mood. They might be afraid of running out of water. They might had a water leak, and lost water. It might have been one (or two) of the crew not really understanding how big the Atlantic is, and how long time it takes to cross. In some way, they have taken the decision to run the engine and hoped to find wind. When we heard about this we "rushed" in assistance (Here "Rushed" means sailing 4 knots for some days....) By the time we managed to find them, the wind had picked up, and it was no problem to sail even for this boat. Since we had reached them, and since it was still about a week left to the Azores, we decided to give them some fuel. We did not know for how long the wind would last. This was back in 2003, and we had no weather forecast out there. On the other hand, you are totally right. They could have waited for wind. They could have sailed. They could have been fighting against the wind that finally came in the wrong direction. They could have been real sailors, who loved to trim sails. But remember, they could also be just a normal couple spending one year out on a travel, and it might be that they actually were not very good at this. But they do deserve respect for doing it anyway. This couple would have survived without getting fuel, but they were very happy to get about 10 Gallons / 35 liters of fuel to be more secure of reaching the Azores in a sensible time. They would have made it anyway, but without knowing the wind conditions for the next week, they wanted that extra security. Since we had the possibility, and there are not much other things to do out there, we offered them our help.

Sailors helping sailors in need.

Maybe you think you dont need electricity also…..running aut pilot,plotters,radio,frreezer,al not necessary off course but helfull??

@guidouytterhaegen Wind generators and solar panels can take care of those things with an inverter.

Awesome anecdote ❤️ Thanks for explaining it 🙏🏻 was a good read 😊 all the best 🙏🏻❤️⛵🏴‍☠️🦜⚓🌎​@@Sailing-Maja

Thanks. It was a good feeling to be able to help out there.

Diesel on older boats isn't just used for propulsion but also for other tasks like making drinking water, heating, and generating electricity. Plus, jerrycans can leak because they get damaged by the rough seas, water can get in, and so on.

Crossing the Atlantic from the Caribbean til the Azores in a small boat with limited crew takes about three weeks. This is depending of a lot of factors, like the wind, current, state and knowledge of the crew, condition of gear and so on. There are mainly two routes, the northern ans the southern. The northern route has more wind, and sometimes too much wind. The southern route is shorter, but has often less wind, or no wind at all. We sailed the southern route. A friend of mine crossed at the same time, at the northern route. They were knocked down twice, and he is still afraid of heavy weather, more than 20 years later. Anyway, the southern route is without wind for many days. The boat in need had used almost all their fuel to het into an area of wind. Of course, they could have waited, but then they start to run out of food and water, and the limited crew (Husband + wife) may not be prepared to stay out in the uncertainty for that long. In order to try to get to an area with wind they spend all their fuel, leaving only what they needed to get into harbor at the Azores. Being out there they told other boats in the group of yachts sailing together that they had ran out of fuel. They would survive without it, no problem, but when we heard about this, and we had too much fuel, we offered them some of our fuel. You also need to remember that the ocean is big. From the day we heard about this, to the day we could reach them on VHF it took several days of sailing. (We had a shortwave receiver, not a transmitter, only way to communicate was VHF). Being able to offer them more security, we did it. By the time we managed to get in reach of them, the wind had started to blow again, and they were able to sail. Still, it was a weeks sailing left, and we did not know for how long the wind would last. Since we had the opportunity, we took the chance to transfer fuel from one boat to the other. This was not an emergency situation, they would probably survive. We just wanted to help them get more fuel in the situation they were. And it was fun doing it. Then we had something to get involved in. It could be long days out there on the big ocean.

I don't understand,,,they own a najad 343!! One of the best 👍 yacht ever..! So was the problem 😂?

​@@Sailing-Maja this crew on the Najad was obviously in trouble, to help them was a good thing. I simply wrote, that to get into this situation, was unneccessary and the result of unwise decisions. With a good weather forecast with gribfiles via satelite a good and seaworthy boat like this Najad should be able to sail from Bermuda to Horta in 2 or with weak winds in 3 weeks. You need for 3 weeks for a sailing couple about 100l or 25-30 gallons of drinking water and of course some in reserve, if you have no watermaker. I sailed this route alone in a steel boat a bit shorter but heavier than the Najad. The passage lasted 13 days on the southern route between the 34th and the 38th parallel.

3000mls@5kts=600hrs, [email protected]/hr=88hrs, Therefore 512 hrs@ 5 kts, When you are sitting there 1000 miles from wind, what is your course of action? .

Beim 2. Kanister sieht man, dass das annehmende Boot stoppt, sobald der Kanister im Wasser ist. Beim 1. Kanister war davon nichts zu sehen, so dass er vermutlich heftig an die Bordwand schepperte. = Lerneffekt. Aber ... Bei so großem Seegang kann man die Boote nicht vorsichtig aneinander legen. Man ist gezwungen, möglichst parallel zueinander zu fahren und sich vorsichtig anzunähern, um auf Leinenwurfdistanz zu kommen. Um die Boote gut im Kurs halten zu können braucht man ausreichend Segelfläche und Geschwindigkeit. Die Segelfläche erzeugt bei dem Wind große Kräfte, die auf die Boote wirken. Diese Kräfte führen dazu, dass die Rümpfe ruhiger im Wasser liegen als sie es tun würden, lägen sie komplett still. Außerdem erzeugt die hohe Geschwindigkeit eine wesentlich bessere Ruderführigkeit, weil durch die Anströmgeschwindigkeit an den Rudern ein höherer Druck aufgebaut werden kann. Da die Wurfleine vom Vorschiff aus geworfen werden muss, erhöht sich die Sicherheit der Person, weil die Boote einen Kurs durch die Wellen gewählt haben, der sie relativ ruhig, also ohne viel Rollen und Stampfen und mit einer den Wellen angepassten Geschwindigkeit unterwegs waren. Ja, das sieht erst mal wild aus, muss ich auch zugeben, aber vom seemännischen hätte ich das Manöver nicht viel anders angelegt. - Bis auf den 1. Kanister, da fehlte das Aufstoppen, ist aber ganz offensichtlich trotzdem noch mal gut gegangen.

Ich verstehe, dass Sie vielleicht danach fragen, und wenn Sie @kunoknollenbuddler2167 Antwort lesen, gibt es eine sehr gute Erklärung.

@kunoknollenbuddler2167 Das ist sehr gut zusammengefasst und es ist klar, dass Sie die Situation verstanden haben.

@@Sailing-MajaThanks 🙂 As a former bridge officer of a German Navy ship with about 150 RAS maneuvers of experience and a private sailor for 45 years, you get an idea of such things. 😉

You should look at at least 30.000 Euros

Thanks

Nice to hear. Happy to help. Nauticats are great boats!

@@Sailing-MajaYou are absolutly right,! Even I secretly dreaming of a Sirius 35DS, but Nauticat 32 deliveres 90% for a quarter of the money. Did you watch Kaj Gustafsson NAUTICAT Interview (otherwise look it up on YT)? It won me completly over, great attitude of a fantastic boat designer.

This is why I don't like metal rudder stocks and stainless steel in general under the water. If you sail in the tropics then the process is accelerated greatly by the warmer water. I prefer FRP or Carbon rudder stocks for this reason.

@deerfootnz Thanks for sharing this advice. 👍

@@stephanebrun718 Thanks. Earlier when I sailed a one masted boat I always hoised the main first, and then the genoa. Don’t know why, I’ve never really learned how to sail, I’ve just tried my best. KZbin did not exist when I started sailing. This is my first ketch, so I still learn. Thanks again for your input. 👍⛵️

Another method or two: On my Fisher (before having an autopilot) I raised mizzen first to keep the bow pointed up into the wind. Inn light winds didn’t even bother with mizzen. On Amel 53 we always raise mainsail first then mizzen if using it. Nice to have autopilot and electric furlers. Does your autopilot have a wind vane parameter? That’s the best thing for a singlehander, it holds the bow to wind with a minimal amount of throttle. You want just enough forward motion to give steerage and no faster else you create more apparent wind to find while unfurling/ raising sail. Great boat and video. A thousand thanks

That is the question. That is the question, indeed.

I understand what you mean. Thr S&S versions might be «better and safer», but the original motorsailers look so much better. That look is a personal preference, though.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Understand your philosofy. My concern is that it is hard to work with the main when the pilot house is in my way, of that reason the mizzen and jib is a good combination. My experience is that that is giving a good balance.

In the contrary, sailing with mizzen and jib ist quite stable, indeed, well trimmed this configuration should enable you to steer a straight line in Up to 30 knots of wind without touching the rudder and without using autopilot or a windvane selfsteering. In more wind second reef in mizzen and partially reefed jib. In more than 45knots: pray! The big windows of the deckhouse and the sliding doors will not withstand a serious blow from a breaking wave.

@ I totally agree with you. I have been thinking of adding something outside the windows for situations like that, but I have never seen any others do it. Anyway, I think it is an interesting idea…

Thanks for sharing. Good to know your experience. Mizzen and jib is my favorite as well.

that is fucking hilarious

I think he is joking...

Well, I can't see any reason for raising the main first or raising the mizzen first. This is my first ketch, and it might me an old habit to raise the main first. Are there any good reasons for raising the mizzen first? Please advice.

@@Sailing-Majayes, mizzen will keep the bow heading up with little or no engine

Yes, I would very much like to see that screenshot!

@@phild.7788 If you’re on facebook you will find me if you search for Jarle Karlsrud. There you can send the photo.

@@Sailing-Maja sended :-)

@phild.7788 Great. Thanks!

I have thought about that as well. I dont know the answer. I’ve seen several Nauticats with windvane but not discussed with anyone. Are there any out there who can confirm how it works on a pilot house yacht? Please comment!

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Thanks for following. I hope it gives inspiration.

Thanks a lot for that comment. I did not know that. I know they are old, but I did not think of what you described there. I will look into that before next sailing season. (Boat at land for the winter now). Thanks again.

We too. It will be great!

Thanks for commenting. I do agree in what you are saying, and if I was buying a boat now, the 43 would be on my short list. Having the 38, I'm happy with that and we'll do the best out if it, Generally very happy with the 38. The Island Packet SP Cruiser also look awesome.

Yepp. That is very important, indeed.

Thanks a lot!

Totally agree. This is the way they made boats 40 years ago. Will be much better now.

Totally agree. We are very happy with the work so far. This is going to be fantastic.

Totally agree with you. The large windows are vulnerable in high seas. Looking into this and have some thoughts but needs some more attention. Anyway, yes that is a potential problem.

The old Nauticats, like most motorsailors, are built for coastal sailing and not for ocean passages in rough conditions. The sliding doors, the nice big windows, both makes these boats comfortable but fundamentally unseaworthy. You might sail in the tradewinds transatlantic east to west in a good year, but I wouldn't like to sail back west to east in a Nauticat. If you get into a real storm between the Azores and the bay of biscay or the western approaches, you'll be in real trouble.