"SSH or telnet into this thing" You're not going to SSH into an 8088, the crypto would cripple it. Even at 10 MHz!
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech12 күн бұрын
"interesting" and "amazing" are two very different targets to match. Could you imagine pressing a key on your modern laptop and waiting for ... how long? for it to show up on the other side? Of course telnet would be "fine", right? Thanks for watching!
@MarcioR218 күн бұрын
😃😃😃Muito obrigado por criar este vídeo!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Eu estou tentando concertar meu commodore 64 🖤⌨️🖤que eu comprei. Ele não pisca o cursor e não funciona o teclado.😢
@livingforalivingRV18 күн бұрын
Good Luck on your repair!
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech18 күн бұрын
¡Buena suerte!
@keithbertschin1213Ай бұрын
Lasted one minute, freakin annoying bg music bye
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTechАй бұрын
What did you say?
@electric74872 ай бұрын
7:47 This may be the quickest "death by deletion" I've seen to date.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTechАй бұрын
It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
@andygozzo722 ай бұрын
i have the more common black version of this, both are now pretty rare and seem to fetch surprisingly high prices, they werent that common back in the day, more common keyboards were DKtronics and Fuller, which were full size cases you put the ZX81s pcb in , making a self contained unit, they could also take the psu pcb...
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech2 ай бұрын
I would like to find one of those "full" cases. That design makes more sense to me.
@andygozzo722 ай бұрын
@@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech they do turn up a fair bit on ebay, thats where i got mine from, but be warned, prices can be surprisingly high, especially if they have a computer board in
@andygozzo722 ай бұрын
i bought several of these in the early 2000s recently serviced them and sold them, later UK ZX81 rampacks had a single pcb, marked issue 3, dont know if used in the US, had some of the logic circuitry within a custom chip, the issue1, think only used in the UK, had to have some extra parts on the non component side of one board as they missed them out of the pcb track design, but was otherwise identical circuitry! note these may have one capacitor of different value to specified in the official schematic to allow different speed rams to be used, usually slower types(probably cheaper 😉)
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech2 ай бұрын
That is into learn about the revisions, thanks for sharing!
@eskimosound2 ай бұрын
Can someone explain how to run this program on Windows please?
@JohnDoe-cv8iw2 ай бұрын
alot cheaper than an actual 386 computer!!! insane what they go for now days.. i was in grade school in the 90's and could buy a 386, 486 or early pentium computer for $5-$20. i used to buy a system every week until my parent's garage was full! then my dad took em all to the dump, i wish i had that gold mine now days!!!
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech2 ай бұрын
That's crazy $5-$20 in the 90s!!! Man you'd have plenty of fodder to play with today. I bet they all still work too!
@rustymixer28862 ай бұрын
14:00 important keyboard legacy info
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rustymixer28862 ай бұрын
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech great video did you try 1.44mb kolobri os yet?
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech2 ай бұрын
@@rustymixer2886 Not yet, but its on the list.
@rustymixer28862 ай бұрын
@@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech please do soon I want see if can boot right from 💾 with kolibri os and a wifi usb card and usb sound card works (as kolobri has notorious sound and wifi issues being 1.44mb)
@brucetungsten57142 ай бұрын
Coolest looking Commodore for me but I have yet to see one in the wild.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech2 ай бұрын
They are pretty hard to find. I had an ebay search going for a while and I got lucky!
@brucetungsten57142 ай бұрын
Would have been cool if it had slightly enhanced functionality relative to the C64... combined with 128 colors this could have been a mind blowing machine.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech2 ай бұрын
I totally agree!
@Xpun34143 ай бұрын
Those Gateways were solid systems.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech3 ай бұрын
I always did like the gateways!
@rustymixer28862 ай бұрын
@@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTechdid you put kolobri os on 💾 its only 1.37mb
@tiborvegh7003 ай бұрын
It was a rip off, Tramiel being Tramiel.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech3 ай бұрын
I've heard stories
@stevetodd73833 ай бұрын
Na, this is way late to the game. SBCs were appearing in the mid 1970s (e.g. the KIM 1, which even included a keyboard and display on the board).
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech3 ай бұрын
I can see that.
@Therealguymins3 ай бұрын
When I left my last job at a CVS office, my best work buddy and I used my WP-2 to write up a list of really stupid/funny events and conversations we remembered from the 18 months we both worked there. I have an RS-232 port on my PC that I added myself and finally just used an old null modem cable and a terminal emulator to get the document to him today about a year later, haha. Cool little thing from 1989. If you can get the setup to make transferring ASCII text to a PC (will likely need some editing to fix formatting) relatively effortless, then it's still a great and interesting option for anyone that wants to type notes or whatever on the go with no distractions. I love devices that are dedicated to being good at one major function rather than ones that are okay at many, and this is no exception.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech3 ай бұрын
That's an awesome story, I'm surprised they were still secure in memory after all these years! Thanks for sharing.
@kjamison59513 ай бұрын
Statistically speaking, 16K of RAM is better.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech3 ай бұрын
Sure is!
@johnathanstevens84364 ай бұрын
My grandfather put epoxy between the computer and the expansion pack to stop the pack from wobbling and resetting the system bus.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech4 ай бұрын
That is a really good idea!
@andygozzo722 ай бұрын
@@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech but then you cant remove it if you need to, most common way here in the UK was a blov of blutack!
@8BitRetroJournal5 ай бұрын
The display goes away not because the ZX81 is doing so much work, it's because modern LCD monitors/TVs go blank if the signal is garbage. On an old TV what you see is black shaky bars. I also recommend you try OTLA fast load, which will turn a 3 minute wav file into a 10 second wav file and load just fine on a ZX81 (only if you are doing it digitally like you are). In fact, OTLA starts with a .p file so you can avoid the tapeutils.jar stuff altogether. Not sure if it runs on Linux, but it does run on Windows.
@siliconjunkie72975 ай бұрын
I used to love these plug-in modules, I used to have a repair business back in the early 80’s and the number of spectrums we took in could almost pay the rent. Any dislodging of a plug-in module (which was easy to do as there was no retaining mechanism) could and often did blow some chips
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
I came into the hobby just after the chip/board level repair stopped. I am happy to have learned the skill and I bet it was a lot of fun just moving hardware and paying the bills!
@ghostbombl80345 ай бұрын
Shats black box with grill for with rc wire coming out of it in front of your monitor?
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
I answered this, but it looks like youtube deleted it: That is a dummy load for testing ham radio gear. I use it on my ham radio channel kzbin.info
@ghostbombl80345 ай бұрын
@@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Why do you think they delete it for?
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
I have no idea! If I did, I could quit my job!
@PatrickDunn130785 ай бұрын
No flight simulator? I had that!
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
I can imagine a flight sim on the ZX81, that would be neat to see!
@mibnsharpals5 ай бұрын
The one extra circuit generates a negative voltage. The RAM chips used (4116) require a dual voltage supply (+/- 5 volts). ( see the ZX spectrum ) In addition, the ZX81 outputs the addresses and data in parallel, but the 4116 requires the address signals multiplexed (RAS / CAS). This means that the chip uses the address pins 2x, which means the chip needs fewer pins and is cheaper to produce. Internally, the ZX81 has a static RAM that does not require this logic.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
Nice, thanks for sharing!
@carminone5 ай бұрын
If static RAM was used, would there be no need for anything but the RAM itself?
@mibnsharpals5 ай бұрын
@@carminone Unfortunately not completely, but only 2 components. The ram and a 4xNAND (74LS00). In order to use the ram externally, the internal ram must be deactivated, this is done with RAM CS, which is permanently set to 5V. Then the states MEMRQ and A14 must be evaluated. The ram may only be active when Memrq is low and A14 is high. Since the RAM works with negative logic, it must Memrq = 0 + A14 = 1 >>> CS = 0. If you then take the 74LS00, the Memrq is inverted and logically linked to the A14 NAND.
@InfiniteLoop5 ай бұрын
Tractor supply has a nice Precision set
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@SteuerkanzleiFindeis5 ай бұрын
„K“ stands for Keyword 😊
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
That makes sense!
@jeffwalker71855 ай бұрын
I recall getting a Sinclair Spectrum and opening it up to add an extra 48k of memory. The upgrade kit even came with a dummy practice chip.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech5 ай бұрын
That's pretty cool. I think there was a way to add RAM internally to the ZX81 (aftermarket) as well.
@frombrum6 ай бұрын
well the two bits of installing cardboard explain the overheating
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech6 ай бұрын
True, that's the problem for sure!
@inranglhood606 ай бұрын
You can hear the spacebar rattle on this machine. I applied a small bit of lubricant to my wp-2's spacebar (chef kiss). It now sounds much better.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech6 ай бұрын
That's awesome, simple solutions are the best!
@MI7DJT6 ай бұрын
That looks so difficult but loads of fun Steve. So glad to have found this channel!
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech6 ай бұрын
Glad you made it. I need to make some new content over here. This stuff is fun to play with, but isn't RV Friendly.
@zx_spectrum_next6 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4uommeqlK-Ipsksi=_24TLRQ1trzJgBLU Borsh quake for sam at full 6mhz bet its faster than next at 7mhz
@drPeidos6 ай бұрын
That was built at the Timex factory in Portugal. Lot's of Spectrum and Timex stuff came from there.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech6 ай бұрын
Sweet, thanks for sharing!
@johnm20127 ай бұрын
Chips that size are easy to hand solder - just forget the desoldering braid and use proper flux instead of a flux pen. They are so much easier to hand solder than the tiny surface mount resistors.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@kaliban47587 ай бұрын
Some pic/mg 1.0 backplanes have isa and pci connectors and some of the pic/mg 1.3 backplanes have pcie x16
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kaliban47587 ай бұрын
You need a backplane to get it to work The backplane needs to be pic/mg compliant, Yes pic/mg is a standard just as pc/104 is a standard
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DaveNorthWest8 ай бұрын
Lol that bat file that sits there looping through all the files on the disk is to make it look like your waiting for the computer to complete something while your at work back in the day
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech8 ай бұрын
One of the many trick that got me to the massive success I am today 🤣
@kevinbaker11438 ай бұрын
WTAF is a "ZEDX81"? Can people not read English? There is NO "ED" in the name of this minicomputer.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech8 ай бұрын
This is a British designed computer and the original creator called his product ZEDX81. I can respect that.
@talideon8 ай бұрын
The Sinclair machines were such a contrast with Acorn's machines. The ZX81 and Spectrum are so very different from the Acorn BBC Model B and its descendants, not least because they had a fast, ergonomic dialect of BASIC with a built-in assembler.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech8 ай бұрын
The ZX81 has a special place for me... well... because its just so "special". I appreciate it for what all it did with so little.
@xspydazx7 ай бұрын
still works today ! (check out the mess emulater) brother of the mame...
@noveltyman67238 ай бұрын
BASIC simplifies everything. Assembly programming for the ZX81 is just as much of a shitshow as everyone says programming for the Atari 2600 is, very hard and not fun at all. Thank God, that ZX Spectrum is much easier.
@livingforalivingRV8 ай бұрын
BASIC was pretty golden for its day! I really like transitioning to QuickBASIC with no GOSUB and a no Line Numbers.
@noveltyman67238 ай бұрын
@@livingforalivingRV I agree, it's a really powerful programming language, just very slow, so most game were either written entirely in machine code, or used BASIC only for simple stuff like menus.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech8 ай бұрын
I miss that computers used to come starting you at a command prompt/programming language and you built up from there. I feel like we were more a part of computers in our early days than today.
@craftsman1234569 ай бұрын
Ya that glue is horrible in them will literally rust thru resistors on the board. Had this with 2 I recapped
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech9 ай бұрын
You got that right! Thanks for watching!
@corychelini990510 ай бұрын
I follow you on your ham radio channel and I have a question... I know this is an old video, but I also have a CDS 524 and I put in a Trident isa/vga card, my question is I have no video is there another step I'm missing , Thanks in advance!
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech10 ай бұрын
Hey Cory! There might be a setting in the BIOS or a jumper/switch on the motherboard to disable the onboard video. From there if you wanted to re-use the internal monitor, you'd probably have to make a cable. Or for a real adventure you could put Windows 95 on it and run two screens!
@corychelini990510 ай бұрын
Hi TO, Thanks for replying back. I'll try the jumper switch, I do have Win95 on it and runs like new,! I bought this computer new early 1995. Thanks again. @@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech
@The_Conspiracy_Analyst11 ай бұрын
I used to use one of these with a modem that had an acoustic coupler. I'd use it specifically from payphones for anonymity back in the day. Good times.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech11 ай бұрын
That sounds like a lot of fun!
@donschuy Жыл бұрын
I finished two of these. They both work great. Had problems with the second board because I had cheaper sockets and was getting shorts. Eventually put Kawari boards in both and use Ultimate II plus carts for loading software. For Sixty Clone colors went with blue and purple. Your red one looks great.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
They are a lot of fun to build! My sixtyclone eventually wound up in a red-painted breadbin as well. I love the kawari progress and I'm looking forward to using my modem to get software loaded directly from the internet.
@Starcat128 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I want that gateway that’s like the exact computer that was my first brand new computer from high school
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
I remember the gateways that came in the cow spotted boxes and had the curved fronts. The good ole days for sure!
@1337Shockwav3 Жыл бұрын
Had a black one a while back and found it quite underwhelming. The case and design are nice, but the actual keys are very low quality, which of course is a major improvement over the chiclet keyboard, but definitely nothing I'd consider good or even mediocre.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right. Personally I would have wanted to see the ZX-81 fit inside the case and some sturdier construction.
@1337Shockwav3 Жыл бұрын
@@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech That's funny, because attempting to fit a ZX81 inside the keyboard case was one of the things I had planned as well and considered it possible, yet never realized it before parting ways with the keyboard.
@ivanbigor869 Жыл бұрын
The same problem with my c128, which was given to me by a colleague a few days ago, he said that it had not been started since 1990. The LED did not light up and the ignition switch worked normally, but one side did not conduct electricity like yours. thanks to you, I managed to put it together, soldered the contacts on the switch and brought it back to life! Thanks for the instructions and best wishes
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped and you are up and running!
@TrimeshSZ Жыл бұрын
The design of that pack is what you could politely refer to as "highly cost optimized" one of the reasons (apart from the iffy mechanical connection) that it's sometimes unstable is that it generates some of the RAM timing using RC networks driving regular 74LS series TTL chips. This makes it highly sensitive to a bunch of things like ambient temperature, the precise voltage of the 5V rail, which vendor supplied the chips and you looking at it in a funny way. That old school DC/DC converter didn't help either - it was needed because the 4116 needs +12V and -5V in addition to the +5V, but generated significant RFI - the metalized coating on the housing kept the radiated interference below the FCC limits, but still induced significant noise onto the internal signals. I looked at a bunch of these things back in the day, and although they did work most of the the ones I checked were running the RAM outside of it's timing specs - typically by violating the tRAH(min) spec. The use of disc ceramics in an RC network for delays is pretty sketchy, too.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
I can't really tell if the cost savings was pure genius or an accident of some idiot pushing a deadline.
@AdamJRichardson5 ай бұрын
I don't remember where I read/heard this, but my recollection is that the module's engineer originally included a capacitor as he knew that power interupts would happen, but Clive nixed it on cost grounds... My first exposure to computers and programming was with the ZX81 followed shortly by a Spectrum - happy times (except when the 16k came loose!). Thanks for showing the innards
@luviskol Жыл бұрын
The original UK versions didn't come with any of the shielding - just a plastic case
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
Those were simpler times!
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Жыл бұрын
That took me back to 1981 ... have a subscribe.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the sub! I need every one I can get my hands on!
@kensmith5694 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago, I made my own 16K expansion. I think my circuit had fewer ICs. I made the multiple voltage part with a 555 timer chip. The voltages other than 5V drew little current.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Its one of the things I still want to learn how to do.
@kensmith5694 Жыл бұрын
@@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech The multivoltage RAMs are a thing of the psst I think so there is less to learn there,. I used RC delays to time the RAS-flip-CAS timing. It is a case where minimum times have to be worried about but the maximums are a long way out of the range of concern.
@TimStCroix Жыл бұрын
Continuing my bad habit of commenting on old videos. In case anyone was wondering why RAMTOP was 17408, 16K of ROM = 16384. 1k of RAM is 1024. 16384+1024 = 17408. With the 16K RAM pack installed the internal RAM is disabled so RAMTOP is 16384+16384 = 32768. The reason you keep missing keystrokes is because the ZX81 uses the CPU to drive the screen so it's only available to work on other things, including scanning the keyboard, during the vertical refresh. It's easy to type faster than the computer can register your keystrokes. You'll learn to compensate with continued experience. Near the end of it's production Timex was able to sell the American version, the Timex Sinclair 1000 with 2K RAM, for $50.00 and still make a profit.
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim! Thanks for stopping by!
@talideon8 ай бұрын
Also, there's a reason why the ROM has to be at the bottom of memory: the Z80 expected jump vectors at the base of memory. The 6502 did the opposite and put its vectors at the end, owing to the need to put the zero page and stack page at the start of RAM.
@josephtotter7484 Жыл бұрын
It's just ram and and 74ls xxx chips for the address decoder. You had to dind a way to support the ram pack so it didn't hang down on the edge connector. There were after makes 32 48 and 64k packs and some rs232, parallel , voice synthisizer , joystick interfaces and even a disk interface. I had a ts 1000 with 64k rs232 interface and disks running cp/m
@TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech Жыл бұрын
I have been looking for one of those ZXpand units for sure. Thanks for stoppin by.