We're not a Constitutional Democracy... we're a Constitutional Republic. Doc Ignatowski wasn't talking about Minsk; he WAS talking about the US. Even Socrates knew a Democracy is a bad form of government. Every voice may be heard in argument, (and Socrates loved to argue) but he knew it would cause derision, division, bellicosity by alienating people from people. There can't be freedom in a Democracy... how can everyone be free when group 1, by mob rules, dictates over group 2?! Democracy has NOTHING to do with freedom! They're antithetical to each other.
@pbdye16074 ай бұрын
And now Belarus is a Russian puppet state. -_-
@OlivierLebo-n3h4 ай бұрын
Every Sorkin's shows are an ideal version of a subject, here politics, like an utopia.
@gu98384 ай бұрын
oooooh i forgot or didnt know llyod was in an episode cool!
@googoo-gjoob4 ай бұрын
because its the only thing that ever has.....
@LeaveChildrenAlone4 ай бұрын
Audio isn't synced with the video
@gheller22615 ай бұрын
At the beginning of this scene, Jeb sounds like a Republican. I always laugh when politicians say that the voters are smart enough to make their own decisions. Of course we know that for most people that's not true.
@Calmputer5 ай бұрын
"Mr. Zubatov, well Mr Zubatov went all the way to Jupiter to find out what happened to the Discovery and it's H.A.L. 9000 Computer."
@DGNYY275 ай бұрын
Season five was dogshit but Mr. Lloyd is a pro.
@pauldockree99155 ай бұрын
Okay. I will play. GREAT SCOTT! Kind regards to Christopher Lloyd and Michael J Fox.
@alexius235 ай бұрын
I found it interesting that only a few years after this series ran Barack Obama happened.
@ironsideeve29555 ай бұрын
He was an empty suit in the end unfortunately
@AskTheRealDrBrown3 ай бұрын
Santos was based/inspired by Obama, but had to push the timeline
@theowarner5 ай бұрын
0:12 Toby getting interrupted… so good!
@NightingaleSunset11 ай бұрын
Exactly the reason why Afghanistan fell ao fast. We poured money into the country, propped up a government... but failed to instill in the leadership why these ideas are important.
@MohammedAli-hl4mr4 ай бұрын
Afghanistan fell because the USA handled the maintenance and supply and funding for the Afghan army and didn’t do a transition to the Afghan government handling those things. The Americans left suddenly without care for the Afghans and left their allies unable to leave to die
@diegoestrada7798 Жыл бұрын
So well written.
@FriscoCatshark Жыл бұрын
I always thought the opening of this clip was interesting. The way he takes issue with the commander not being the one who decides when to go to war is intriguing to me because, in my eyes, that's such an obvious caution to take. A skilled commander may also be a warmonger. They may also know that their greatest strength is military prowess, whereas skills like diplomacy, tact, etc. may not be in their wheelhouse. Would you have wanted Trump to be able to declare war on a whim? Needing to have a secondary branch of government be the one that votes on whether we go to war seems like such a basic function that it always caught me off guard how the show uses that as an example of the US ignoring the Constitution. The document ain't perfect, and Lord knows it needs a few hundred corrections in present day, but that's a good passage of it in my eyes.
@somebuddyX Жыл бұрын
Doc Brown and Mr Ditkovich! What a world!
@peterjonas4971 Жыл бұрын
"Well, I can tell that this is going to be a vibrant discussion!" And Toby has to laugh at that.
@stonecoldku4161 Жыл бұрын
"I get nervous around laws that fundamentally assume that Americans can't be trusted." Any NRA person would then ask, "Then why are you trying to take away our guns?"
@firstname43375 ай бұрын
YES ! exactly
@Dan2108715 ай бұрын
"I need to arm myself with the kind of weapon that only makes sense in a battlefield" is a manifestation of lack of trust in other Americans, in and of itself.
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Жыл бұрын
If they don't have a common law system, none of that will work and you need something in place now, or other wise it will be arbitrary.
@rottingcorpse6002 Жыл бұрын
Christopher Lloyd is an American treasure. So many great guest stars on the west wing.
@wmascolin Жыл бұрын
It was really out of line when Tobey told that guy he'll get his rent when he fixes the damn door.
@pauldockree9915 Жыл бұрын
Take a look at The Glad Summer book cover. Published 1951. Yes the young heroine is saying here comes that Ragamuffin Nicholas Harbourne to...anywho. she Joanne threw the heroes hat over that wall her wall and here comes her reward. Not straight reporting no salaciousness? I feel someone is sayin do you follow? Robert Shaw Richard Dreyfuss and Roy Schneide and JAWS JAWS JAWS not whose whose whose! Okay. Some subtext😊 the Glady summer. Indian Summers. Yeah. So far I have followed the script but who benefits? The pupils are not learning are they PUPILS not named IRIS Murdoch.
@stephenconway2468 Жыл бұрын
One of the most intelligent scenes in WW and there were so many to choose from!
@ZacharyLoeser Жыл бұрын
“How many guys do you think it takes?” Still gives me goosebumps.
@donkeyears4704 Жыл бұрын
as much as i love this show, and it's an all time great, i never understood his position against term limits. all elected officials need term limits to keep them from having the power of kings and queens. we need to extend term limits to all elected officials including the supreme court, senators, etc.
@samholder196 Жыл бұрын
brilliant scene demonstrating Constitution vs. Constitutionalism
@khriss867 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I am liberal but the first two statements were garbage. Judges can't be trusted to give equal sentences for two reasons: statistically it has been shown that rich white defendants get better sentences overall, and the laws that are passed give worse treatment to minorities than they do to others, such as the difference in sentencing between cocaine and crack cocaine. Term limits are needed because the supreme court has basically said that it is legal for the state legislatures to create voting districts which eliminate the opposition. So democrat majorities can dilute the republican districts and republican majorities can dilute the democrat districts in their respective states. When term limits are eliminated it brings the threat of authoritarianism. If it wasn't a problem then we would not have had so many presidents that have been elected while losing the popular vote. Another good reason for term limits is because government officials hide their acts. They classify something horrible that has happened as top secret and the voting public never gets that information. How can it be a true democracy if the leaders hide their actions from the voters? Responses to this (if there are any) will probably be that "The West Wing" was a fictional show, but the truth is that real life politicians are out there defending judges that give unequal sentences as well as defending states that are disenfranchising voters by diluting their districts. Not to mention the politicians that classify information so it cannot be released to the public to be judged.
@davidweihe60525 ай бұрын
Perhaps you do not remember, but the higher sentences for Crack were largely proposed and strongly supported by the Black Leadership because they expected that it would reduce Black cocaine use, since Crack was believed to be the way that they consumed it. Perhaps a mistake, but not designed to increase Black incarceration, nor over white levels.
@RandallHallKaizenReiki Жыл бұрын
I remember thinking how wrong Christopher Lloyd's character was when this first came on. All these years later and I get it.
@MarkLewis...3 ай бұрын
No... he's still wrong. Then, now, and later. I bet you believe "Democracy" and "Freedom" are interchangeable words. They're not... they're antithetical to each other.
@SLagonia Жыл бұрын
"When the process is fair..." It's not. That's why we need term limits. I voted for a senator I hated last election because the other party couldn't be bothered to put a better candidate up, and there's representatives like that all over the country.
@KyleMiddleton7 Жыл бұрын
Even if it did all work, why not also have term limits? Would we really be lost without the few hundred leaders in power now? Surely each and every year should bring new people ready to meet the challenge.
@pkmatt3 Жыл бұрын
love the series and the words are exactly the kind that gets craved into stone... thank you, Aaron Sorkin !!!!!!! many many thanks
@fdfac2 жыл бұрын
Really, really nice job with synching the voice to video, it almost matches 😊. I'm always grateful for people allowing themselves to be compared to others. While some will take the time and embrace trial and error, the end result is a seamless presentation without differentiation from the original. This fine example breaks from convention shoving pure 💩 and placing it to the public as a equivalent. I bet you have a trophy shelf filled with mediocre symbols of some interesting achievements that would rival any MAGA memorabilia collection.
@michaeldew7904 Жыл бұрын
Plus they added in quality 240p for video.
@sands77792 жыл бұрын
For those against corporates and billionaires buying politicians and judges, ask your representative about HR1 act which had provisions on campaign finance reform and disclosures on dark money donated by corporates and billionaires via super pacs and 501c4 political advocacy nonprofits.
@dcle9442 жыл бұрын
The term limit is not about not trusting the voters but about fearing people in power would rig the election to stay in power forever, but with just two terms, it’s not worth the risk.
@JackRileyD Жыл бұрын
Then elections should be more vigilant, and protected. It's wrong to deny the voice of the people because someone MIGHT start rigging elections. If the will of the people is ignored, then revolt against the rigger. You have this kind of corruption right now, but instead of the right one person, they just string along 20 people that suit them best.
@bobagorof Жыл бұрын
Two terms for the President, but not for the House or Congress...
@junheceta268 Жыл бұрын
As I recall, what finally galvanized the term limits initiative was FDR winning a fourth term when already seriously ill, leading him to make extremely poor decisions that benefited Stalin, and then later dying.
@clcortelyou Жыл бұрын
Term limits have brought more corruption to Michigan over the last thirty years because when you shove all the experienced legislators out of the government, bills get written by lobbyists and paid advocates who end up knowing the system better than the endless stream of newbies elected on the premise that outsiders with the money to pay for their campaigns are the best way to go.
@sokonek14 ай бұрын
@@bobagorofand I think we should repeal that. Think of how different things would be if Obama could have run for a third term
@AldousHuxleysCat2 жыл бұрын
Term Limits Now!
@EmilioReyes_972 жыл бұрын
"You asked me to buck him up" "Now I'm telling you to leave him alone" I think it was around this moment when I began to realize Josh was indeed, the Democrats WarDog. He's like an animal you gotta reign in and hype up once in a while when the game gets REALLY afoot. And the best part is that Josh knows it, he's proud of it...and loves every minute of it.
@dlifedt2 жыл бұрын
Being from Minsk, this scene didn’t age well
@briane57062 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s Aaron Sorkin who should run for President as he imbued all of the virtues and vices of his West Wing characters.
@Egilhelmson Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we really need a coke fiend as President. You are confusing the writer with the contents of his scripts.
@lizziebkennedy75052 жыл бұрын
Bradley Whitford is goat.
@noyk5052 жыл бұрын
Daría mi mano derecha por que retomaran esta serie.
@RomanCoronado2 жыл бұрын
The moment with Josh speaking to the Senator on the phone demonstrates why we still, in 2022, need flip phones, because pressing an End Call button after telling someone off just doesn't have the same effect. "Hi Senator, why don't you take your legislative agenda and shove it up your ass" [boop].
@gastonsanda87842 жыл бұрын
So if i change that means they can change for you to.
@finalrestcelebritygravesin39202 жыл бұрын
'the call?' 'on the cell' lol looking back, it's kinda funny some of the writing. but that is where tech was at the time. but the BEST show ever on television. I miss TWW
@willnavarrete68283 жыл бұрын
I love how he ends it with how many guys do you think it takes both knowing there where 8 founding fathers
@chriskelly34813 жыл бұрын
Such an incredible show!
@daveinstlouis3 жыл бұрын
Ever since TAXI, Christopher Lloyd has been "hitting it out of the park" behind the camera and in front. He's had a busy career.
@DavidBlain43773 жыл бұрын
I never knew Christopher Lloyd guest starred on The West Wing...
@AlasdairGR3 жыл бұрын
Does the constitution have a clause about rent?
@mitchedelstein3 жыл бұрын
Terrible to note that Belorussia is now a horrible dictatorship.
@PacoOtis3 жыл бұрын
Grammar!! "You are THEY" and NOT "THEM" Go apologize to your English teacher!!