As a Southern Electric fan I think it`s a great shame that there is no third rail on heritage railways. I understand why of course but it is a shame.
@peterjhillier76597 ай бұрын
Shame you can't have to whole Unit. Best of luck.
@peterjhillier76597 ай бұрын
Was this Unit stored for a while on the old Winkleigh Airfield in Devon? I do remember seeing a Unit up there back along. I remember riding on these during the 1950s and sixties between Norbury, East Croydon and Victoria 94 Headcode. Great, wish you all the best.
@peterjhillier76597 ай бұрын
Bloody marvellous, shame you've no full set and no juice Rail but great to see the old Girl. I remember seeing these Units in Lewes occasionally when going up to Work at Southern House. We called them Nelsons and I remember how the front connecting Door used to sway when she went over Switch and Crossings at speed like at Three Bridges.
@peterjhillier76597 ай бұрын
How lovely to see a surviving 4SUB, I remember travelling on them between Norbury and East Croydon where I worked at Southern House for BR SR or up to London. Thank you for sharing, best of luck with the restoration Project, pity you haven't a 4BIL or 4LAV as well.
@angelsone-five79127 ай бұрын
All the very best with this and other Southern Electric projects.
@angelsone-five79127 ай бұрын
Wicked, I wish you all the best with this project.
@goldsburypeter1168 ай бұрын
I did my earlier degrees at Sussex University and occasionally there would be a 4-COR unit from Falmer back to Brighton. The 'thrum' sound was very entertaining and a welcome change from the rather dull electric multiple units.
@ewan81278 ай бұрын
when we built Trains...
@anthonymcdonnell53848 ай бұрын
the 503 should be restored not sectioned or scrapped
@iansankey63208 ай бұрын
brilliant! And with that statement you have the job. So whats your plan?
@anthonymcdonnell53848 ай бұрын
@@iansankey6320 if the wirrel transport museum had not closed could of gone there, but there is a group trying to save class 507 No 507001
@TheShanampan8 ай бұрын
From 1967 to 1972 I used to catch these trains from Maidstone East to Victoria station 3 times a year to get back home from school for the holidays. You had to make sure you got in one that had a loo on it as you could not go from carriage to carriage. They also had smoking and non-smoking carriages. Once, having arrived late we jumped into a carriage and as the train drew off we were scolded by a very irate woman.. that's when I discovered that it was a Ladies only carriage!
@hortoncommonmodelrailway8 ай бұрын
That would be 2 HAP stock or 2/4 EPB, the 4 SUB units didn't run on the South Eastern as far as I can recollect?
@RailwayDan9 ай бұрын
Had a ride on 4732 years ago. Paired up with another gem. The 2-BIL 2090.
@petermartin38189 ай бұрын
Being involved with our rail heritage elsewhere, it is being identified that there is a changing demograph and culture going on which challenges all aspects of any restoration, and the emphasis is changing more to conservation by those remaining who have the skillsets and knowledge to do it. Sadly, there's an emerging generation who now don't know how to bang a nail into a piece of wood - let alone engage in anything like this. The progressive debunking of hands on base skills over the years in favour of virtual reality from the ipad or mobile phone, presents future challenges not only with other heritage aspects, but our own industries and ultimately - life in general. Sad though it is, but at least part of it will be conserved. Thank you!
@levelcrossing1508 ай бұрын
Glad to see there is someone else that thinks like me. As a past heritage railway volunteer, I've been concerned about it for some time now. If you look at what has been planned over the past 4 years it will not take Einstein to work out how it could all affect the future of our coal and oil powered heritage railways. The changing of demograph and culture is still the dream of the minority and we should always remember that.
@MervynPartin9 ай бұрын
A train like that could not be built today- it has comfortable seating and windows alongside the seats. Happy memories.
@hortoncommonmodelrailway9 ай бұрын
Think that the SUB was repainted in 87 prior to Lovers Walk Open Day and later appearance at Thanet Gala day the same year when is used to shuttle visitors to and from Ramsgate, I was one of the organisers for the event being based at Ramsgate as a Driver. In 1982, 4732 was dumped in Hither Green Continental sidings, withdrawn, along with many of her sisters, it was dragged out and went to Selhurst for a repaint, next thing she was back in traffic , and as I said again in 87 she got another repaint. Saw it arrive at Margate 1:1, I used to work in that goods inwards building when I left the railway in 93 Used to see 4732 all over the place, especially Waterloo in the 80s, she
@jimmynorris31269 ай бұрын
Please pass onto Richard - that he would be better cutting a little more off behind the compartment sliding doors to allow (if possible) them to be a moving piece ie can open and closed rather permanently close.
@mekydro9 ай бұрын
Lovely to hear that MG set running! I have happy childhood memories of COR unit MG sets gently humming away at Portsmouth Harbour, whilst awaiting departure for London. I also travelled on them to Reading in their twilight years.
@cedarcam9 ай бұрын
A lot better than nothing, It is still a shame no railway wanted the full unit though. I hope all goes well with the cutting, saw a video where the prize went up in flames.
@rog376859 ай бұрын
Can you advise when it is to be moved? I’m hoping for a last chance to see it in one piece before the cab is removed. Thanks.
@mrlangelo91169 ай бұрын
Get on a train from Stoke to Derby this weekend and you will see it from the train, will be gone next week.
@rog376859 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply, I’m booked to travel tomorrow.
@rog376859 ай бұрын
All three cars were at Stoke today, 28289 is close to the road bridge at the west end as seen in the video. The other 2 cars are at the extreme east end of the site, on low loaders. Easily visible from trains between Longport and Stoke, or from the adjacent paths and woodlands if you like a hike like me!
@TrevorRobinson19559 ай бұрын
All that work that has gone in to saving these and thers not one heritage line that is willing to have it! it is ridiculous it is all these younger ones they just dont care
@jensen19099 ай бұрын
you'll find that quite a few younger ones do care, but like yourself we don't have the facilities to store an entire unit in our gardens when we can barely afford the weekly shop.
@caramelldansen22049 ай бұрын
@@jensen1909 absolutely spot on. we're getting poorer and that trend will not reverse. we care, but we're working harder than ever for less pay than ever during a housing crisis, a world disease event, and about 4 major recessions in our lifetimes. there are no government programmes for heritage and the railways have been privatised basically our whole lives. how is this our fault??
@jacobstrains-vr6uw9 ай бұрын
why cant it be restored
@mrlangelo91169 ай бұрын
No funds and no support
@caramelldansen22049 ай бұрын
503 dies so 4-SUB lives, it seems.
@angelsone-five79127 ай бұрын
503?
@caramelldansen22047 ай бұрын
@@angelsone-five7912 Class 503, used on Merseyside.
@caramelldansen22049 ай бұрын
Thank goodness at least some survives! I wonder, if he (or someone) publicised it and did fundraising, he could save the rest maybe?
@WalesRail9 ай бұрын
Amazing well done on getting nearly half of it lol
@petergabell62749 ай бұрын
Excellent news, glad it's been saved plus a bit more too. Looking forward to seeing it in Llanelli shortly.
@SouthernRegionProductions9 ай бұрын
When the world fails a beautiful EMU, farewell 503, you will be missed
@andrewbrown67869 ай бұрын
Not sure it will ever travel on BR rails again - they didn’t have a speedo. Think the rules have changed a bit since their withdrawel
@glenjarnold9 ай бұрын
Great memories of my regular trips from Victoria to Gillingham in the 80s!
@Ben-xe8ps8 ай бұрын
You didn't travel from Victoria to Gillingham in the 80's on a 4-COR!
@glenjarnold8 ай бұрын
@@Ben-xe8ps Not necessarily, no, but this just evoked memories of doing so 👍🏻
@moocow4654 Жыл бұрын
How is EPB 5176 doing?
@karimkekhia4369 Жыл бұрын
awwwww really mixed goodness let’s get this classic back to its original self.. in BR/SR green without small yellow panel annnnd that horrid headlight has to go!!! I hated it when BR put them on all the slammers and locos alike back at the turn of the 1990s
@stuarthall6631 Жыл бұрын
Great video and good to see that this unit is receiving some love. What a pity that the two surviving carriages of unique 4DD are not being so fortunate.
@logicalaction Жыл бұрын
Good to see that railway preservation seems to be very healthy, would be good to see it running again
@theheritagechanneluk1553 Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@grahamwhitworth9454 Жыл бұрын
I remember these units showing headcode 18 on the Waterloo to Weybridge and Windsor service. The train divided at Staines, with 4 coaches usually going to Weybridge and 2 to Windsor & Eton Riverside.
@mrmrst9020 Жыл бұрын
34 headcode empty’s to Wimbledon park depot 👍🏻
@mrmrst9020 Жыл бұрын
Hi Graeme was you on the railway as a driver by any chance 👍🏻
@mrlangelo9116 Жыл бұрын
I still am!
@mrmrst9020 Жыл бұрын
@@mrlangelo9116 I am Bernie’s boy was a driver a wim park retired now after a bit of bad luck
@brianwillson9567 Жыл бұрын
More power to your elbow. I class emu cars very low on priorities for preservation, BUT representative examples should be preserved. Well done and every success to you.
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
Well done, so nice to see sr bulleid units being preserved!
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
Lovely sound of the compressor!
@dodgydruid Жыл бұрын
Hehe I remember that train so well, can't say anything but in my teen years rode that whenever possible including when it was running to and from Gravesend making for a lovely day out with me girlfriend. Funny too is that I featured in Hornby's magazine some years prior as they gave me a personal guided tour in that factory, was only 11 and so fond of those memories. In 84-85 I serviced the 4SUB's requirements at Waterloo, so if you ever saw a gangling lad trudging to and fro with a trolley loaded with boxes of Palmolive soaps, paper towels, several lit lamps etc that was me as I had to be up for the incoming Exeter train then over the other side to do the west London SUBs. In the 70's I used to go to school on a 4SUB, now these were rare couple of units that ran out of plat 8 which had still the corridor compartment coaches still in place and a loo too, fun sitting in what was first class downgraded but they got scrapped.
@petersmith4455 Жыл бұрын
hi there, never knew this train exsited.this is great.i remember these in the 60s as a child, will it run again ?
@hurstinator Жыл бұрын
Unlikely due 3rd rail nowadays is 750volts not 660. Also so much would need to be changed it would affect the originality. Cosmetically it needs 50k per coach before you get to the mechanical side of things
@hortoncommonmodelrailway9 ай бұрын
660v dc was always inner London suburban voltage, hence 60 mph speed limit, once out the catchment it was 750v dc, the SUBs permanently kept within catchment area, once she was classed as a celebrity unit and had restrictions she could run on 750v dc but wasn't permitted to run overspeed, it still had to be kept to 60mph everywhere she went, usually accompanied with the 2 BIL too
@alantraish3368 Жыл бұрын
Is that the remains of a Bullied pacific I see in the background?
@alantraish3368 Жыл бұрын
Nicknamed Nelsons I believe? Love to see a 4 coach set together again. Magic hearing it.
@brianwillson9567 Жыл бұрын
To me emus come well down on the list of railway vehicles for preservation. ButSOME examples should be. Well done and more power to your elbow to complete this project.
@tonywise198 Жыл бұрын
Good old "Nelsons". These are, by far, the most comfortable coaches ever. Put todays stock to shame.
@EM-yk1dw Жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the compressor and MG set, happy days!
@andylombardi28159 ай бұрын
Westing house compressor, disconnected a few of those and the MG Sets when at BREL Eastleigh
@timothyrobertson1383 Жыл бұрын
Film in landscape next time :-)
@TEAMKENT6307 Жыл бұрын
Yes ! The portrait format works well on phones but not tablets or laptops. All the other videos on our channel are in landscape.
@fredfoto7362 Жыл бұрын
Great days, I was on the farewell tour with 3142 and the non stop run from Waterloo to Pompey was marred by a signal stop in Guildford where some of the punters threw empty bottles and cans at the box. 11187 was the motor coach off 3135 and my records show that 3142 was running with 11161 and 11201.
@hurstinator Жыл бұрын
Yes the above is correct regarding 3135. One of the trailers also survives as this was swapped one of 3142 due to it was damaged before delivery.