It literally starts with saturating the stone in water, though?
@EffdaBlx2 күн бұрын
@FortyTwoBlades you don't have to reapply?
@FortyTwoBlades23 сағат бұрын
@@EffdaBlx not in so short a period, no. It's saturated. The water is in it.
@LolitaDavidovich93422 күн бұрын
Where do you buy one?
@FortyTwoBlades22 күн бұрын
You can find a page with our suggested starting equipment here, though we also have additional items under their respective sections. byxco.com/pages/suggested-starting-equipment
@Slick519Ай бұрын
Great video!! Thanks.
@WelsheeeАй бұрын
When i was younger i really enjoyed the little of scythe work ive done on some valley fields in Portugal that a horse was helping on too. Started feeling hopeless with it but got the hang of it soon enough within the hour had fastly improved, i like it a nice pace like this reallg makes it much more of an enjoyable activity. That with the fact of portability, maintenance cost free and the peace while you're doing it really makes it an almost meditative. loving your vids! Stayed up last night cleaning up a nice old billhook so I'll be watching your other vids now 👍🏼
@goatfarmmb2 ай бұрын
always been looking for a wet grinder like that
@kukolino2 ай бұрын
I just ordered me an Austrian made on Amazon
@FortyTwoBlades2 ай бұрын
Do you mean an Austrian made American pattern, or a continental European pattern? They are radically different from one another. Seymour's blades are made by Schroekenfux of Austria, but are American pattern and run at a higher hardness for superior edge retention. There are many Chinese made Austrian-look scythes on Amazon and they have universally been found to be of poor quality. If actually Austrian made/European style we suggest supporting specialty retailers like One Scythe Revolution, as they can do things like properly peening the blade for you to help give you an idea of the kind of edge to strive for, much like how we grind properly thin bevels and adjust the tang angles on our blades. Welcome to the world of scything!
@kukolino2 ай бұрын
@@FortyTwoBladesI assume it is an European pattern, Made by Müller Austria, bought in the American Amazon Store to be used in South Carolina around my Pond! I grew up in Austria, my Grand Parents taught me on a very old wooden model! My Grandfather even built himself a bench with a metal bar exposed, where he carefully hammered the Blade straight and used a stone to sharpen it!
@FortyTwoBlades2 ай бұрын
@@kukolino likely sold by Wisemen Trading, then. We actually supply them with sharpening stones, though the Müller snaths and blades are not the finest examples out there. Wisemen is not a specialist retailer so it will need a bit of work in the edge before it will be ready to mow. Very doable, just keep it in mind that it'll need that little bit of elbow grease put in before it'll be performing its best! Fortunately there are lots of decent videos online about tuning up European scythes. Again, we suggest One Scythe Revolution for that!
@sethmoking2 ай бұрын
Just ordered one. Still not sure if I need to soak this in water first or not.
@FortyTwoBlades2 ай бұрын
It can be used dry, but performs best with water or oil, according to your preference. 😊
@sethmoking2 ай бұрын
@@FortyTwoBlades Excellent, thank you!
@OrchardcottagefarmCo2 ай бұрын
Why is it that we don't peen the blade in America, but they do in Europe? Is the blade a different thickness?
@FortyTwoBlades2 ай бұрын
For a number of reasons, some of which are easier to concisely explain than others! The main advantage to peening is that it allows for bevel maintenance with durable rather than consumable equipment, and in continental Europe many poor farmers could not afford a grindstone back in the age when synthetic abrasives did not exist--they were dependent on the qualities of their local stone or else had to import at great expense. But also part of why the blades are made so thin and soft is to facilitate that peening. In the Nordic nations, the UK, and America we had abundant stone resources that were suitable for grinding wheels. As such, those regions all made their blades with a harder heat treatment from the beginning, which allows them to hold their edge significantly better (approximately 5x as well) and they gain basically no advantage through peening. Peening only increases the edge hardness by 1-3 HRC and does NOT improve its resistance to abrasive wear. This means that while it's true that the metal is drawn out by peening, it is nonetheless fed to the stone through honing. By heat treating a blade harder in the first place it not only needs less frequent honing to stay sharp, but also is more resistant to abrasive wear from dirt and silica in the plant stalks because the steel is in a harder crystal phase (martensite) rather than the soft phase more present in European blades (mostly pearlite.) The better edge retention and apex stability of harder steel also means that it cuts better at slower speeds, and so does not need to compensate for low sharpness (for a scythe) with a fast stroke like European types do, and so do not need to be made as light. Having a blade of certain weight is actually helpful in mowing heavy growth, because the higher input energy required at the start of the stroke is stored as inertia that's expended at the end of the stroke when the load on the snath from the cut material is the highest, leveling out your effort curve and keeping you in the aerobic zone better. This allows for deep strokes even in heavy growth without having to add a burst of energy at the end of the stroke, and folks using light European scythes in heavy growth often complain of left shoulder pain from having to add that extra oomph at the end of their strokes to avoid getting bogged down in the cut.
@viseshseernam392 ай бұрын
the edge may be shaving sharp but think the machete is too thin for heavy chopping maybe for trail clearing or light chopping uses
@FortyTwoBlades2 ай бұрын
Clearly spoken as someone who hasn't used it. It chops excellently and is designed for it based on extensive experience with machete design and use. An 1/8" thick prototype was tested during the design phase because of people who thought it should be thicker. The 2.2mm thick example chopped better and weighed almost half a pound less while doing it.
@viseshseernam392 ай бұрын
@@FortyTwoBlades you should try to fall a bigger sampling than the cherry trees and tell us your opinion such comfort time to take to fall down the tree and if the blade vibrate ETC
@FortyTwoBlades2 ай бұрын
@@viseshseernam39 the testing was done years ago and was quite extensive. No further testing is needed, though I still have the prototype. Felling larger trees than this is doable, and I've done it, including on standing dead beech trees about a foot in diameter. However, such work is much better suited to using an axe. The machete is fully capable of handling it, however, and does very VERY well for machetes in its blade length range. It can also take the head off a deer in one blow. This machete was designed to handle the full range from light grasses through full-blown trees if need be, but machetes are inherently better suited to saplings and branches as the upper range of targets that they'd be *typically* used on, with trees this size and larger being a case of "use what you have" rather than what you'd pack with the intention of using for that kind of work in volume.
@sethmoking2 ай бұрын
A couple of questions. Did this need to be soaked in water first? Next, I recently purchsaed the grinding point power drill bit to put a fresh bevel on my american scythe blade. But would this abrasive file do the trick as well? I know with american scythes you need to achieve a hollow grind for necessary sharpness to cut grass. But I don't like being dependent on electric power tools. Would be nice if this tool replaced the need for the grinding point.
@FortyTwoBlades2 ай бұрын
You don't need to produce a hollow grind--an appropriately low edge angle and backing geometry is the important thing. About 7-9° per side. While this is a VERY aggressive hyper-coarse bonded abrasive stone, it is not as fast as the grinding point is. Once beveled properly, proper sharpening techniques, occasional touchups with a very coarse stone like this or the Manticore Continental-pattern scythe stone to reduce thickness at the shoulder, and avoiding edge damage through accidental impacts can help drastically extend how long you can go before having to regrind it. The Seymour scythe blades or our Meadow King grass blade are soft enough that a file will readily cut them while still being harder than even harder examples of European style blades by about 5 HRC. You might enjoy one of those if looking for a blade that lends itself well to non-electric beveling without the need for a manual wet grinding wheel. The grinding point is just much faster.
@sethmoking2 ай бұрын
@@FortyTwoBlades I don't know what brand my scythe blade is. It's an antique I got off of Ebay and restored. But it does seem to be doing better since I used the grinding point on it. But I really don't like the dependence on electricity. I would happily spend more time pleasantly sharpening manually. I see your Seymour grass blades are sold out. I''m looking at the Meadow King grass blade and the Seymour weed blades. You would feel confident grinding those blades with this Manticore abrasive file? And I'm also curious, should I be using the "American" whetstones you sell or the "Continental" whetsones? I've been using the continental shaped stones for honing my american scythe blade, but now I'm wondering if those are mainly meant for European scythe blades and that I should be using the American whetstone shape on my american scythe blade. Whew! Learning curve is steep. I'm able to cut grass now with my American scythe, but when I see Slottergubben and his Nordic snath and European (peen) style scythes, I'm very tempted to make the switch. I want to cut grass as easily as he does, but as of right now, the level of sharpness that I'm able to get on my american scythe blade, plus the weight of my old, heavy, snath is just not capable. Thoughts? Have you watched Slattergubben's videos?
@trailblazerstory64453 ай бұрын
That is what a scythe was made for..... I never knew that Then why does the Grim reaper have one??
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
The Grim Reaper and Father Time are depicted as carrying scythes because of the way that harvest with a scythe (reaping) must be done at the right time. Much as crops (whether grain or hay) must be harvested at the correct time, so too is it their duty to harvest souls when it is THEIR time.
@brianphilbrook52623 ай бұрын
Man I wish my scythe cut that nice.
@cheyannei59833 ай бұрын
Okay, so I've always wondered, how do you cut low to the ground on very uneven terrain? Do you just pick a height and hope it's good enough? Cutting even 4" tall would result in hitting dirt with the scythe and leaving 7" tall grass in the same swing in my yard. We've just been using a battery string trimmer for the worst part of it since it's much easier to adjust the height while cutting with it.
@threeriversforge19973 ай бұрын
The blades are curved a bit on the short axis, so even when you place it directly on the ground, the edge won't dig in. From there, it's just a matter of taking a short stroke and paying attention to the ground as it changes. You might have to come at the same patch from several angles, like he did as he circled around the burdock, but scythes cut best down at the ground level because the ground is helping to hold the plant in place. If you tried cutting higher up the stalk, the plant would just bend out of the way.
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
As Threeriversforge1997 mentioned, the blade "smiles" somewhat, allowing you to get down into hollows. The flatter the blade, the more even a stubble it leaves, and the more of an inverse crown the blade has, the less even a stubble it leaves, but the better it's able to navigate undulating terrain.
@The_Queen_Chrysalis3 ай бұрын
slow, but precise.
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
Total elapsed time under 5 minutes. Not slow at all for the space cleared.
@cheyannei59833 ай бұрын
The alternative is to string trim and then come back with big shears, it's technically faster just more labor intensive
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
@@cheyannei5983 if not actually trying to save a plant, it'd be much faster! Very easy to plow right through burdocks and grass like that; but this was just a demonstration of how you can selectively mow to help preserve certain desirable plants!
@gcgopro69123 ай бұрын
And with the last stroke...oops.
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
As we mention in the description, we weren't actually trying to save this plant! With one we were actually trying to save, obviously we wouldn't have then cut it down. 😉
@TheGuitarRoom3 ай бұрын
This is so cool Benjamin. What an amazing tool. I wish I had place to use a scythe
@curly__33 ай бұрын
Cool... I like. Thanks.
@karsonbranham39003 ай бұрын
Nice slice action! Sharp tool!
@ilcignoeilgrifone3 ай бұрын
This is a Santa Giustina manaresso, one of the best Italian products for the Bosco, still hand-forged by the Rinaldi company.
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
This one was made by Falci, but we do also carry the Rinaldi one, which is a little shorter.
@iamreiver3 ай бұрын
I didn't have any fancy whatchamathinger like you do. I had to keep my propane torch blowing on the thing while I bent mine. Otherwise it would cool too fast and I couldn't bend it. I used a pair of vicegrips to grab it and bend it.
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
Propane doesn't do a good job of heating the metal quickly to prevent the spread of heat into the cutting portion of the blade. If using propane, we'd suggest taking steps to ensure the blade stays cool in the process, such as by submerging it in a water tank while doing the heating, using a coolant mister (with a shield in place to prevent overspray onto the heated portion of the tang) or thick soaking-wet felt blocks laid over the edge. Otherwise, it would be better to use an oxy-acetylene torch. Most folks without the means to DIY it or purchasing through us have had success with having a local mechanic do the job.
@iamreiver3 ай бұрын
I am having a very difficult time getting my old used scythe blade sharp enough to cut slowly like that.
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
What method are you using to set the bevels? They should only be about 7-9°per side, so a quite thin geometry. Many find the grinding points we sell to be a good economical way of getting blades back in proper shape.
@francescobroli67563 ай бұрын
good morning, which of the two is the most balanced? thanks
@FortyTwoBlades3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you're asking here...both are forward-weighted tools and neither of them are at all prone to rolling in the hand. The Giustina model has a more forward balance, but this is due to its longer length. Neither is inherently more or less balanced than the other, merely balanced differently.
@LeatherstockingTimberProducts4 ай бұрын
Geat information! So important to have a handle from split wood!
@armaanladak4 ай бұрын
i would trust you with my life
@iamreiver4 ай бұрын
So it only requires one nib. I understand why I had such a hard time with a normal sized snath now.
@FortyTwoBlades4 ай бұрын
It's due to the manner in which it's designed, not due to any faults inherent to standard American snath design! Standard American snaths will typically comfortably fit users up to 5' 11" tall while the Longfellow us designed not only for very tall folks, but also for people who intend to share the snath between users of different heights, since users of any height will use the same tang angle thanks to the arrangement of the hands in use. Unless you're taller than 5' 11" it's most likely the trouble you had was due to poor tuning and fitting! American blades need to have their tang angle set for the unique combination of snath, user, and mowing conditions. The shank of the tang is heated with an oxy-acetylene torch or induction heater and bent to the correct angle needed for that user to bring the edge appropriately low to the ground. For most users that ends up being somewhere between 10-15°
@iamreiver3 ай бұрын
@@FortyTwoBlades My height is 6'3" which is what I meant by understanding why I have a hard time with a normal size snath. Would you recommend staining or sealing the longfellow snath before using it?
@NikitaTieche4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, ! Very easy and useless, nice.
@oldtom37994 ай бұрын
These work great for shovels! Today I had to plant a tree in 90 degree heat and probably 100 percent humidity. My treasured old shovel was butterknife dull. A few minutes with this abrasive file and the digging effort in hard pack soil was half. If you own a shovel and actually use it, you need this file. Thanks for reading.
@รพลเลาะซําซู5 ай бұрын
👍👍👍🙏🙏
@jessicaduffy52426 ай бұрын
informative and to the point
@JoeZelensky6 ай бұрын
I just bought one of those exact ones from someone and was wondering how to set it up.
@FortyTwoBlades6 ай бұрын
Check our website for maintenance equipment and our links and reading section for the instructional material we have on our blog! We have detailed instructions for beginners. byxco.com/ site.baryonyxknife.com/blog/?p=6
@blackrichard10296 ай бұрын
Information other than the visual would have been very helpful.
@FortyTwoBlades6 ай бұрын
You may find this more detailed video helpful, or the educational materials on our website (byxco.com or our blog under our links and reading section) kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3ybfImdgpyKd68
@RadagonTheRed6 ай бұрын
I must be doing something wrong because my knife is now blunter than ever.
@FortyTwoBlades6 ай бұрын
Chances are you're either failing to fully bring the edge to an apex, are rounding over your angle, or are creating an aggressively rolled edge. Check for any of those problems and it should solve the issue!
@RadagonTheRed6 ай бұрын
@@FortyTwoBlades Thank you! I’m grateful for your help because it’s my first time trying this.
@scottmattoon90546 ай бұрын
Great idea! Thank you
@douglaspinsak12466 ай бұрын
That’s some good scythin’ boy. That’s some REAL GOOD scythin’.
@prun88937 ай бұрын
I wish Crocs hadn't discontinued their scything clogs.
@FortyTwoBlades7 ай бұрын
They're Specialist II Work Clogs, or their predecessor, at least.
@सचिनशिवणे7 ай бұрын
Hi I'm Sachin from India, i want this scythe... What is the cost??? & How can I buy it
@FortyTwoBlades7 ай бұрын
Cost depends on the particular snath (handle) and blade combination. Shipping to India may be very expensive, so we would suggest organizing a group order if you're able. You may peruse our selection on www.byxco.com and contact us from there regarding a quote.
@cbdyna7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. Just boought an old wooden scythe and it has this three hole interface. Whats a decent size and brand grass blade for a 5'9" person and any recommendation on a good place to buy it from would be awesome.
@FortyTwoBlades7 ай бұрын
We're actually the global specialist in American scythes! In addition to vintage blades, we also carry newly made ones like the Seymour Midwest model shown. To the best of my knowledge we're the only retailer doing tang angle adjustment and edge grinding.
@flashthompson78 ай бұрын
Thanks, God bless
@wandaleatherbury80508 ай бұрын
great viedo no talk no filler more like this i will suscraibe untill i heary you speak
@recreationalland25858 ай бұрын
I have this belt clip and it is amazing. I am also left handed and it still works perfectly, honestly I feel like the loading motion is more natural when used lefty because you pull the machete forwards instead of backwards like in this vid. Still the best sheath / holder / clip I have use. I have gotten 3 of them for gifts in the past
@DiscorporateOfficial9 ай бұрын
Well, I have been dumb for at least 20 years :D . Thank you!
@jaymunro906110 ай бұрын
Why would you not just use a hatchet
@FortyTwoBlades10 ай бұрын
This approach is faster, more precise, and more controllable, providing it's used with properly selected wood.
@alexbeedie694010 ай бұрын
Most of my handles are ash and you really notice the difference when you over strike hickory takes it far better than any wood I have tried
@cantcomewithsomethingorigi679911 ай бұрын
I am looking for 0:17 anyone?
@FortyTwoBlades11 ай бұрын
It's an Angelo B. "Abruzzo" pattern pennato (double-edged billhook.)
@justinsmith4157 Жыл бұрын
Respectfully. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t just use a good hatchet.
@FortyTwoBlades Жыл бұрын
Because a hatchet doesn't penetrate into the wood as easily or allow for controlling the split of the lath. You use this with selected wood that has a good straight grain to it (or as close as you can find) during the course of stacking your wood, and you set those pieces aside. A hatchet is considerably worse for this very specific task, though certainly capable of the job. The splitting knife allows you to set the edge exactly where you want it and split off very thin, uniform laths that light and catch easily, to a fairly remarkable degree.
@justinsmith4157 Жыл бұрын
@@FortyTwoBlades preciate the answer.
@Dydeeo Жыл бұрын
What is the thickness of the blade?
@FortyTwoBlades Жыл бұрын
~2.85mm, with a slight distal taper.
@Waldschrat22 Жыл бұрын
Oh, thats impressive! But i have a Questionen, maybe two, what for a Kind of Steel ist it, and how thick is the Manaresso? And how hard ist the Blade? Thanks for showing this Tools! Greatings from Germany.
@FortyTwoBlades Жыл бұрын
Rinaldi doesn't disclose their steel, as they consider it a trade secret, but it is some form of silicon-manganese spring steel heat treated to 57 RC. The thickness varies both due to distal taper as well as pattern, but are generally between 1/8" to 1/4" thick and can be thought of as "cleavers for wood."
@frankysandoval5676 Жыл бұрын
What stone is that??
@FortyTwoBlades Жыл бұрын
As noted in the video description, it's our Arctic Fox series dual grit pocket stone! byxco.com/products/byxco-arctic-fox-pocket-stone
@fuzexi Жыл бұрын
Can this be done in wet grass? Need to cut the lawn before my mother visits, but it just keeps on raining!
@FortyTwoBlades Жыл бұрын
If anything it works easier in wet grass!
@TapioBlue Жыл бұрын
I got a bush scythe from an elderly friend here in Ontario Canada. I'm surprised how well it works for trail clearing. Cuts sapling up to 3/4" and berry bushes are a breeze. I cleaned the rust with a flap sanding disc on the grinder and final sharpen with a file. It has a fat aluminum handle ( 1 1/2" D ) and the grip nuts need to be worked loose so I can position and properly tighten them. The blade doesn't seem to lay flat enough relative to the ground. Encouraged to buy a proper set-up but I'll see if I can tweak this one for now. I used a scythe for hay as a youngster and it sure is fun digging into this topic.