i had a healer in my static keep my group stuck at LC for 12 hours (3 separate 4 hour prog days) while they were actively using the sim to practice. just based on the title, no, not everyone can do ultimate. objectively.
@sladevalenАй бұрын
I would love to try ultimates and savages at some point! I got into the game pretty late so im busy playing catch up on content. I dont have a ton of mmo experience but ive done a ton of Destiny raids and PSO2 endgame shenanigans so im used to grinding a fight till you understand it inside and out
@akarti8132 ай бұрын
Only the top 1% can clear these, i cant even do savages with out being kicked out for not doing enough dps or groups quiting after wiping 3 times since its seems that the rule now.
@MoemiRat2 ай бұрын
Entirely untrue that only the “top 1%” can clear. Please refrain from gatekeeping the content.
@akarti8132 ай бұрын
Hard-core players gate keep and trust me I'm no hard-core player.
@redgeoblaze37522 ай бұрын
to paraphrase Anton Ego. "Not everyone can clear an Ultimate. But a Legend can come from anyone."
@はなこちゃん3 ай бұрын
Black Cat is literally HEAVEN ON EARTH, thank you SE for giving us chocolate mommy ❤🥺 about time. Cute, feminine, awesome, sexy 😊
@NessTPK3 ай бұрын
they got moemi
@NessTPK3 ай бұрын
also we both got tricked by the floor the same way i love it
@MoemiRat3 ай бұрын
@@NessTPK I felt so silly dude, I should've expected the floors to explode
@MrCharly7804 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right, those who say otherwise are afraid of the content and don't demand enough of themselves. One day 2 months after I started the game I was in gridania, I saw a reaper wearing an amazing looking scythe, it read Ultimate Omega Zaghnal. I assumed it was the normal drop from the tier raid from Omega as I had played tons of other FF titles before. So I progressed into stormblood and got all the way to Omega and got the normal Omega Zaghnal, I equipped it only to discover it was not the shiny version I wanted so much. So I got into google to see what dropped it. It said to complete the Omega Protocol and exchange it for a totem. Simple enough. Googled a guide for the raid and my mind was absolutely blown into pieces. The guide was 1 hour long and the fight being 20 mins total. WTF was that, never going to get through that. A couple of days of more MSQ progress and the though of the scythe was still stuck into my mind, I was decided to get it. So I started with small steps. I had both UWU and Ucob unlocked without even noticing because I wanted the mounts of the 4th and 8th raids and those can be done solo. So I picked a guide and got into PF. 2 Weeks later I was an ultimate legend. Decided to move into Ucob. 3 weeks after starting prog there I was a double legend. Decided to progress MSQ to unlock TEA. 2 weeks after unlocking I was a triple sprout legend. Only then I decided to finish MSQ to unlock DSR and TOP. Finished DSR in under a month and took a break because getting through P4S and DSR took a toll. After 1 month I was mentally ready, if I could go through all that then I can clear TOP, finished that in 3 weeks and finally got the scythe that made me start the whole journey. All in PF, with no add ons on my side, just the guys who have to bring it for the 3 mechanics that need it. I guess what I'm trying to say is: You don't get good to do ultimates, you get good by doing ultimates. Disregard those that try to gatekeep content with random arbitrary metrics. If someone think this is false, search in youtube, FF14 OMEGA PROTOCOL TOP DOWN POV, I left a comment there before starting my journey and one after finishing it.
@alexmaganda58275 ай бұрын
ive always wanted to clear an ultimate but its just so scary the difficulty its also i feel hard to find a group for it plus i feel that the chance is higher to encounter toxic players
@MoemiRat4 ай бұрын
I’ll always recommend starting in PF, toxicity in Ultimates isn’t really seen in the learning stages with groups. People are just happy to practice and learn. Give it a shot, you’ll probably enjoy it!
@shapeflesh45895 ай бұрын
I strongly disagree about Ultimates being the best first step for people looking to raid. It is true that with enough drive anyone can clear, but I have seen too many people with no prior raiding experience join an ultimate, die repeatedly, play poorly/inconsistently and then quit out of frustration or be kicked. As a bear minimum, I would say a pre-requisite to Ultimate is, know your job, understand how and when to mit, bring food. These are things you generally learn by doing Extremes or Savages, especially on MINE. You don't have to clear everything in the game, but laying a foundation will help you a lot and it will save you from being yelled at by the group whom already know these things and don't want to teach fundamentals in an Ultimate. Most Ultimate groups, sadly, are not the forgiving sort. My advice to any new raider is this, assuming you've never raided before, clear the ARR Extremes. Once you've done that, move on to Coils of Bahamut. Synced or MINE is up to you. The Ex's are easy with Echo but Coils will still prove a challenge. Being level 50 content your jobs will be basic and focus on fundamentals. Once you've beaten Coils you can move on to whatever you feel like trying next. Contrary to popular belief you still see Coils mechs return in one way or another, especially in high end content, so it is not a waste. Doing it this way will also gives you a chance to form a raid group of your own since Coils isn't in Duty Finder and you must assemble a group in PF if you want to do them properly. I have seen several groups start out this way. You'd be surprised how many new players want to give Coils a proper try.
@MoemiRat4 ай бұрын
This is probably the worst advice to give to newer raiders and definitely doesn’t do those players any favors with wanting to stick with the game if they’re starting with ARR content. While some mechanics are seen still, the old version of the game doesn’t play the same way it currently does. Your suggestion is more from a completionist/gatekeeper angle which doesn’t help anybody. Agree to disagree and all but, my suggestion helps players grow quicker and is definitely more enjoyable.
@MrCharly7804 ай бұрын
This advice is absolutely awful. I cleared UWU being a sprout barely 2 months into the game and became a penta legend in 7, I was a triple legend sprout before I got into endwalker and finished TOP in 23 days in PF. 0 experience in MMOs before that. Just pick a rotation guide, pick an ultimate guide and start progging in PF, that's the best advice I can give to new raiders.
@Vi-rd5uj3 күн бұрын
nah, do the current savage tier and get some practice there if you really want to start raiding
@rezahydra5 ай бұрын
My main issue has been even trying to find a group to raid with in general… I can’t find a static, and when I do it ends up dying shortly after as nobody wants to put in the commitment or something for one of the members came up and recruiting one or two more just never happened. I have the ambition and drive to clear TOP, even before it was announced I always had the goal to once it was. But I’ve been playing for almost 3 years now, and I’ve not had any luck with it… Hoping to change this before Dawntrail launches.
@Inferlis5 ай бұрын
Many players are lacking basic knowledge in this game and you want to throw them into ults? Good luck with that.
@akirashinsaki22775 ай бұрын
I really wanna do ultimates with a friend, i even start writing a guide from a youtube video ( its my way to learn better) but i have sometimes so much doubt that i can really clear ultimates. I really wanna do this and hopefully became a better player.
@MoemiRat5 ай бұрын
Having doubt is normal but it's awesome that you wanna try and putting in the work to do it. Try your best, you'll get it!
@akirashinsaki22775 ай бұрын
@@MoemiRat I will try my best, and thank you for this message. After i watched your Video and thought about it and i feel a lil bit better. But anyway I am really excited for it to put my time and try all my best to clear an ultimate. And thank you for your video it really helped me with my selfdoubt <3
@raijuu61375 ай бұрын
Yes, but mostly no. All the pep talk in the world doesn't mean jack if the player themselves doesn't know what's actually required to attain the skill level required to compete and join groups that allow them realistic odds at a clear at a reasonable amount of time. Aka, none of those FC only runs where 7 out of 8 players only know how to drool over their keyboard. You'll help people get on track for ultimate clears by telling them the truth about what it takes to stop being shit and the first step usually amounts to >avoid playing with fellow shit players< Because that's how you get casuals reporting in about some ridiculous experiences like "It took my FC 8 weeks to beat golbez extreme" and "My last prog PF couldn't get past looper".
@TheAceAttorney5 ай бұрын
The pessimism in the comments is insane. Yeah ults are hard. They take a lot of time and a lot of effort the whole point of this video is to tell people that if you are willing to actually put in that time and effort, clearing any of these fights is possible. If you give up after one or two bad experiences in PF or a static all that means is that you're simply too weakwilled to put in the required effort to clear.
@ASolidOpinion6 ай бұрын
I can't. If you think I'm dealing with 14s "Hell on Earth" raid community to get this stuff done you are very much mistaken.
@MoemiRat5 ай бұрын
It’s kinda the point of the video that you need to have a drive to do it. Please watch the video before commenting.🙇
@biandmc9786 ай бұрын
I just cleared TEA and i agree with u
@wakka98766 ай бұрын
Darksouls isn't hard, even people who've never played the game before can clear it, all they need is months of practice!
@PubstarHero6 ай бұрын
I love how this video pops up after spending 6 hours in PF and 45 minutes in a complete trap party that was HW prog but couldnt get past Looper.
@iamme17436 ай бұрын
Europe??
@PubstarHero6 ай бұрын
@@iamme1743 Nah, Aether DC
@iamme17436 ай бұрын
@@PubstarHero I heard that in the American PF people is honest with their prog point :v
@humbleebumblee5 ай бұрын
Not everyone have good intentions
@LetMeSoloThemER6 ай бұрын
"if i can so can you" nah bruh, you dont know the skillessness..
@Wiznatcharoo6 ай бұрын
I mean he didnt have the skill to do it at first either though. all you need to past ultimates is dedication and willingness to learn and with those you will gain the skill to clear, its the same thing with any skill.
@doomdeathxx6 ай бұрын
say that to that huge percentage of statics that got dissassembled because they simply didn't made it passed P5 DOTH lol
@GymLeaderFuFu6 ай бұрын
Ultimate Prog Parties go 1 of 2 ways 1: You join a Prog Party that states that theyre at X point or X Phase in the fight and during the entire Length of a Lockout, You only ever see that Point ONCE or not at all, You've now spent 2 Hours of Your Night accomplishing nothing and the Party Surely disbands after Trapping 7 others into a party that clearly werent at said Point/Phase of that particular fight. OR 2: You Join a Prog Party that states that theyre at X point or X Phase in the Fight and after 1 or 2 Pulls where you end up wiping before seeing said Point/Phase that it was Assumed to be a Prog Party for - Someone either Leaves or Gets kicked by Party Lead, you back out, and the Party Disbands or goes back into PF as you Rinse and Repeat for the next 90 Minutes of suffering (If you choose to stay for that long) If there is EVER a 3rd way that "PF" Parties actually clear the Fight, its because its a 6/8 or 7/8 Reclear Party thats gonna look for that 1 other Player thats cleared it already, and take them in, invite them to the Discord and either Get the clear within 1-2 hours or they all choose to stick around in the server and come back the following day to finish it then.
@Dharsi6 ай бұрын
Ultimates being a better content for new players to get into rather than easier fights is a bit of a wild take x) There's plenty of people who genuinely struggle with alliance raids, and would get absolutely lost even in an EX trial. Throwing them into Ultimate with absolutely no raiding experience would be like throwing a toddler in the ocean because "that's how you best learn how to swim"
@MrCharly7804 ай бұрын
I did UWU before clearing stormblood post MSQ last year, cleared Ucob 3 weeks later. Finished ShB just to unlock TEA and cleared in 2 weeks. Only then I finished ShB and finished MSQ to finish DSR without touching current savage aka P8 to P12. Only after DSR I decided to try savage and only did up to P11 to get BIS. Then I cleared TOP. I really agree with this video, ultimate is how you get good, you don't get good to do ultimates.
@SPB___2 ай бұрын
Except it's literally a game and no one is going to drown? We're pushing buttons and moving to places at certain times, it's not that serious.
@RallForeman6 ай бұрын
As someone that can't even get a clear with randoms in Party Finder after nearly a month and a half back then doing The Abyssal Fracture Extreme, doing Ultimates unless I have a dedicated party is sorta out of mind.
@mobius42476 ай бұрын
Also, getting good ar UwU job optimization is 100% different from optimal max level jobs. I don't olay the same job in lower uktis as i do at max.
@Wiznatcharoo6 ай бұрын
I think I may be jumping into the deep end but im saving my savage and ultimate experience for dawn trail and doing those raids so that should be interesting
@MoemiRat6 ай бұрын
Fuck yeah, wish you luck! I have really high hopes for Dawntrail and hope you have a good time with both.
@Nyeril6 ай бұрын
Im ngl myself and other players struggle even with savages from the current expansion that people call piss easy, i think its less a matter of can you clear and more of a matter of will you clear. The sheer amount of time it would take for a shit player to clear is astronomical, especially if you do it in PF.
@Ennasalin6 ай бұрын
I don't know what to say. Jumping in an ultimate with 0 understanding of your class is honestly not the best advice as you are simply just a liability. If you do find the people who will agree to basically carry you and wait for you to figure stuff out sure. But not everyone has that luck in finding those people. As for PF.. uggh..xD!!! so much rng and luck involved...
@Inferlis5 ай бұрын
My thoughts...you want to throw someone into ults who dont even understand the basic terms in the game? Many players struggle in EX fights like golbez or zeromus on specific mechs like memorizing shit and executing it properly. Messing up their uptime and more. Good luck with ults then tho. 😅
@Ennasalin5 ай бұрын
@@Inferlis I think the OP is just trolling with unpopular takes for the sake of the KZbin algorithm and making people talk about it, which is well not a bad idea in theory. However, starting off a channel with this discourse from the get-go will bite them in the ass in the long run..lol.
@MrCharly7804 ай бұрын
@@Ennasalin Na he is right, I started this game and in 2 months I got into UWU and cleared within 2 weeks, I was barely in the stormblood post MSQ content, not even ShB. By the time I was in the end of SB I was a triple sprout legend and got to be penta legend in 7 months and this was my first MMO ever. People limit themselves for the sake of it, if there is a will, there is a way.
@KascGoobbue6 ай бұрын
This video echoes my experience so much. The first ultimate I did was DSR, and no other experience I had playing this game has made me a better player than that fight. I used to be so bad (it's embarrasing to go back and look at vods), but jumping straight into the deep end of DSR showed me that I can do it, and that with enough effort, anything in 14 is possible.
@mobius42476 ай бұрын
What about the unlocking DSR part of your experience?
@Smezl6 ай бұрын
@@mobius4247 I'm assuming you're in the same boat that I was in where the content has already passed it's relevancy. Don't let that make you anxious about doing it. Look up a guide* on youtube for the fight (P4S in this case) and take notes. Then setup a party finder saying you've watched a guide, that you are learning the fight, and that you want help to unlock DSR. This video highlights exactly how things are treated in parties like these, and as long as you take accountability for mistakes and ask questions, you will improve and eventually clear. *(Different guides may use different strats, but as long as your group is communicating, you all can agree on a strat and do that one.) Never beat yourself up too hard over making mistakes. I've seen too many people (myself included) sacrifice value time progging by thinking: "I'm the one dragging the party down," and then leaving the party because they feel bad. No matter how much you fail, you are there to eventually learn.
@mobius42476 ай бұрын
@@Smezl I've cleared all the fights boss
@luxlevia46876 ай бұрын
well, not really. my fc needed 8 weeks to finally kill golbez extreme. not shure if i have the patience to learn an ultimate with them, not even shure we can clear a savage. the same mistake happening over and over again, after 8 sessions we finally finished farming rubi mount, we only clear the fight when we skip limit cut. our damage is also very low, so damage checks will be impossible too
@mobius42476 ай бұрын
These types of videos are just disingenuous. Plenty of players are legit incapable of clearing anything beyond MSQ through either their own self imposed lack of care or possibly some general gaming incapability. Moving around in a 3D virtual environment can be really hard for some people to grasp, much less hit 1,2,3 and move out of puddles.
@SPB___2 ай бұрын
@@mobius4247 If a player wants to clear UWU, they can clear. Give me a month and I could get your mom to clear it with orange DPS. We're not special, sorry.
@mobius42472 ай бұрын
@@SPB___ if you say so. I have seen copious amounts of counter-evidence to the contrary.
@zeehero72806 ай бұрын
Well yes but actually no. Anyone can learn Ultimates. But actually being able to find a group with the desire and determination and ability to actually have some kind of schedule to prog with? It's almost easier to win the powerball lottery. This is why there is absolutely a HUGE factor of luck in Ultimates. not because you don't earn it, but because 99.9% of people will NEVER get the chance to, no matter how hard they try or how much effort they can put in, the fact that there simply aren't enough others interested or with time is out of your control.
@kiri35676 ай бұрын
You can have a full time job and 2 days a week of off time on weekends and decide to spend 2 to 4 hours per weekend day to try and party finder ultimates. It will take weeks or months depending on your luck but it's doable, so long as you're willing to put the time into it. If you can't even spare 2 to 4 hours per weekend day to do it then you probably can't play ffxiv in general anyway, since it's an mmo that demands your time if you wanna do literally anything beyond afking.
@MoemiRat6 ай бұрын
But actually yes, 6:58 party finder exists, there's next to 0 luck in regards to Ultimates it's effort.
@kiri35676 ай бұрын
@@MoemiRat technically luck does play a part in what type of players you get filled up with. I guess patience makes this a non issue, but not everyone has that constant sunny disposition towards this type of thing
@MoemiRat6 ай бұрын
@@kiri3567 Honestly that's a valid point, parties do vary and not everyone is great and that can cause problems. Might just be me viewing that as a very minor thing for me personally when I'm committing time to an Ultimate in the grand scheme of it rather than luck factor but I get it.
@oszaszi6 ай бұрын
@@MoemiRat my fam, when someone says "PF exists" and "no luck" in the same sentence, is when I know you dont PF at all. But yeah, anyone can clear ultimates, its just the required time that will differ. And good luck reclearing in PF. Honestly that is the almost impossible task unless you luck out hard. Most of my clears in PF were because there were insane people in my party with over 100 - 800 clears. You cannot tell me that was not luck. ANd honestly, I would do a disservice to those people by saying, It was my dedication and time that caused me to be able to clear. Hell nah. It was pure luck to get into that party.
@Kicoxyz6 ай бұрын
first🎉
@Aegis_19346 ай бұрын
that scholar sounds like a nerd
@codylarson7 ай бұрын
Really sweet video! FFXIV changed my life as well, I 100% understand your emotional attachment. May you always walk in the light of the Mothercrystal
@iLoveYouNutellasan7 ай бұрын
It's really heart warming you found friends by sitting under a tree while watching Woops and Anubis than going into a conversation with someone that noticed you, It makes me happy you actually got convinced to come back to ff14.❤
@dbuy37 ай бұрын
I've been playing FFXIV since 1.0 and I love that the devs decided to put our names in the credits for ARR. Over the past 10 years, one of my favorite things to do in this game is hang out in a starter town and simply offer help to sprouts. Helping people enjoy the game that I love and has meant so much to me warms my heart.
@FeroLouis7 ай бұрын
when i was playing through EW, I had plans to end my life after doing so, but this game... this game man. with how much EW talks about why we keep fighting when it feels like we cannot change the inevitable, why we keep fighting even when the road gets rough, this game taught me all of that. to keep fighting to keep pushing and most of all, to keep living. I am currently writing this in a mental health facility where I am finally on my own journey of improvement. my journey to finally get better. and its all thanks to this game. this game and its community mean the world to me. and I'm glad others think that too.
@BlazeBuds7 ай бұрын
Definitely changed my life for better and worse! Started playing just after my honeymoon, bought a ps4 with some wedding money and got 14 free trial and absolutely loved it, so much so that i spent 6000 hours online the next 2 and a half years. My marriage really was never going to work and i had doubts about even getting married and thought nah she will get better, well nope cause i just spent all my time on 14 and no regrets! Although since then in 2018 i have played for 2000 hours lol
@Hobee7 ай бұрын
Great video buddy, glad you're in a better space.
@MoemiRat7 ай бұрын
Appreciate it Hobe, hope you've been good man.
@aezogeus8 ай бұрын
Lowkey crying listening to all the music again. I'm so glad I picked this game up a couple of years back.
@manandtoy8 ай бұрын
When I started FFXIV over a year ago I posted a random beginning screenshot of my character on Reddit - no gpose, just a screenie of the opening scene 😂 Anyway everyone was so lovely and then someone found me in game from that post. Gave me gil, a mount and a minion then rode me around all the aethrytes/chocobo stops I could access. They were always super positive and helpful in the following weeks too. It was such a nice thing to do! I knew some friends in a particular FC and they've been awesome too. I just feel very at home with the community.
@FriskyPanda1678 ай бұрын
None of that has EVER happened to me....not even a random conversation and it's been over 300 hours 🤷 lol
@Shiirow8 ай бұрын
I feel like the community attitude is one reinforced by Blizzard game design. Not everyone are jerks, even if some are, but being dipped into the seething miasma of vitriol and negativity makes people jaded and hardens them. you have to be that to survive in the WoW Biome. You look at your fellow player, not as a boon, but as a hindrance, an obstacle that is to be overcome like a raid mechanic. Which is why XIV is such a stark opposite, since the design of the game is the complete opposite.
@jafd2398 ай бұрын
Like you, I had played WoW for many years before starting FFXIV. I wasn't a toxic player, but over the years playing WoW, I became anti-social. I only interacted with the irl friends I had in the game, and whatever random we pulled in for Mythics (and that sometimes still managed to end up with toxicity ruining the fun of the run). In FFXIV, I don't have any irl friends, but I got recruited into a friendly FC and don't shy away from talking to randoms in dungeons and the like! And like you, this led me to encourage and be friendly to others too, creating that feedback loop!
@Sloath118 ай бұрын
As a fellow Warcraft refugee, your story is not too dissimilar to my own and I felt your journey on a personal level. I've also been blessed with a friendly community as a sprout myself, and also being a socially awkward person your story helped me feel not as alone in that regard. Thank you for sharing.
@Grawwler8 ай бұрын
The story literally changed my view of the world.. Its insane to say, but I used to be bitter, always looking for the wrongs in others and behaving either like a total asshole to people online, or shying away from people irl. 400 hours of FFXIV over a year made me realise that the world is just filled with people like me and everyone is always looking out for what everyone else thinks of them. I have learned to see the good in people and my life has taken a turn for the better. I would never have imagined a videogame would change my world view but damn dude, here we are. I just saw the Dawntrail trailer and i lit up like a kid. I am hyped for the summer to see what happens next! This game has the best story I have ever experienced in a video game. Emet Selch is the best villan ever written in a game.
@Shakada8 ай бұрын
Also changed life, ALL DEPRISION i loss! Thanks to players!.
@realityveil61518 ай бұрын
Somehow, the sprout icon doesn't lead to bullying. Somehow, the sprout icon makes people feel warm and makes them want to pet the lala. Could you imagine if wow marked it's newbies? It'd be like a scarlet letter. You'd get kicked from any party you tried to join until you "got good" and "learned the game." In 14, being marked as a newbie makes people want to guide you and teach you and love you. They want to wait for you to watch the cutscenes and they ask if you enjoyed it.
@Shiirow8 ай бұрын
technically wow does mark newbies in the same manner, but you have to have a similar thing to Mentor activated to even see them. they are little baby murloc icons. thats why no one knows they exist.
@AlleluiaElizabeth8 ай бұрын
I just gotta say, your potato looks really cool.
@rokutsubasa45448 ай бұрын
This is such a sweet video! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings <3
@SuikodenGR8 ай бұрын
Always nice to hear videos like this. We live in a very special time in the MMO where we look back and one day, when FFXIV comes to a close to make way to the next FF MMO, we will always looks back to this very game and continue our adventures in a band new universe. 🙂