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@laughingthrushmusic5269
@laughingthrushmusic5269 2 ай бұрын
I just got the HRX217 and it is insanely impressive. How tough do you think the nexite deck is in terms to long-term abuse? Should I return it and get the hrn216 and sacrifice 30cc to get a steel deck?
@7younggoldy4
@7younggoldy4 3 ай бұрын
I service around 150 residential lawns. I use push mowers a lot. In honesty I get 1 good year out of the 217 before I start having problems. I've bout about 4 of them. I just bought my second 216. I look for it to last much longer
@trumpwon8231
@trumpwon8231 4 ай бұрын
So, strange the 217 Res. Sounded ok, nut than you fired up the 216 Com. And boy was that a solid sounding motor, which surprised me compaired to a 200.
@jonathonrossebo1783
@jonathonrossebo1783 6 ай бұрын
From my experience the HRC 216 is built like a tank compared to the HRX 217. I prefer the HRC 216.
@wilalhart351
@wilalhart351 Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@jeffreycaban5107
@jeffreycaban5107 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown between these two Mowers. I'd say if you want a Mulching mower the HRX might be your choice. For Bagging and everything else like longevity the Commercial HRC is the only choice.
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 Жыл бұрын
Yep you are exactly right. Thanks for the comment and viewing the video.
@mackfar27
@mackfar27 Жыл бұрын
I like the HRC mainly because you can raise the RPM as your cutting to demand more power out of the machine. Also, I prefer the sound of the OHV engine. Sounds industrial. I personally own the HRR216 series, and even that has been a great mower.
@breeze787
@breeze787 Жыл бұрын
I like the Nexite deck! It's so easy to clean the dirt comes right off with my air compressor or spray from a hose. As dirty as this mower can get I like hosing it off to a brand new finish. And the cut is probably the best thing about it leaving a velvety smooth line cut that leaves my yard so handsome.
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 Жыл бұрын
Yep both are great walk behind mowers and still own and run today. After this year they’ll be collectors items with Honda being done producing mowers at the end of 2023. Great mowers and love them both! Enjoy yours as well, it’ll last a lifetime!
@jeffreycaban5107
@jeffreycaban5107 Жыл бұрын
​@@brentmarkham9855It's sad that Honda is pulling out of the Push Mowers after 2023. 🥺
@bluelude2001
@bluelude2001 Жыл бұрын
My hrx217 bogs down sometimes cutting my thick zoysia lawn at 1.5" - i just have to slow down a little. Makes my grass look like a golf course though. Awesome cut.
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 Жыл бұрын
And here we are at the end of the film. No more new honda mowers after this year. End of an era for sure. I think in ten years no one will even make a new gas mower at all.
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 Жыл бұрын
Yep definitely sad and disappointing. I feel like Honda Power Equipment is the most reliable on the market. I still have both of these mowers and I will continue to maintain them which should then last forever. The Legend of Honda Mowers should last forever!
@jeffreycaban5107
@jeffreycaban5107 Жыл бұрын
I know. Sad day.
@CompetentSalesUSA
@CompetentSalesUSA Жыл бұрын
Cutting heights are not the same. I own both of these mowers. The 217 s plenty for most yards, also it is much more nimble. Thank you.
@ryanfoley9999
@ryanfoley9999 2 жыл бұрын
Commercial guys would use the HRX I know I will cause you can half mulch & half bag you don't empty the bag as much a big time saver , time is everything when your a contractor...
@tonyd1149
@tonyd1149 2 жыл бұрын
If I may say something,. kindly. When engaging the blade, care to do so s-l-o-w-l-y, giving the blade time to speed up to avoid bogging the engine down. If not, over time, I believe it will damage the engine. (I have the early model, '84, with blade stop). Although my engine is smaller, care still applies. Just adding my 2 cents' worth.
@JAMESWUERTELE
@JAMESWUERTELE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I just bought my HRC216 today. First Honda commercial mower I have ever owned. I’ll go slow with the clutch.
@tonyd1149
@tonyd1149 2 жыл бұрын
@@JAMESWUERTELE Hi PUREBLOOD. I'm glad (wisdom) you'll use care when (slowly) engaging the blade via clutch. (I do believe the fast engage [my mom using it] did contribute to some engine damage. My engine smaller than today's models, even worse condition. Engine would bog down [very low RPMs], and just did not sound right/too much stress). Your new Honda will last a very long time. (Still have mine, but smokes @ cold startup_1984. Still starts 1st pull). Love that blade stop, excellent safety feature. God[Bible] Bless.
@JAMESWUERTELE
@JAMESWUERTELE 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyd1149 I actually enjoyed mowing my lawn yesterday. I wasn’t sure when I engaged the blades about the high idle, like you say it seems like it’s going to kill the motor. I figured it was my high altitude (6900ft). I’m going to go change the oil today in the new mower and I’ll mulch the front and try this out. Stay safe, Bless you.
@JAMESWUERTELE
@JAMESWUERTELE 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyd1149 I actually enjoyed mowing my lawn yesterday. I wasn’t sure when I engaged the blades about the high idle, like you say it seems like it’s going to kill the motor. I figured it was my high altitude (6900ft). I’m going to go change the oil today in the new mower and I’ll mulch the front and try this out. Stay safe, Bless you.
@tonyd1149
@tonyd1149 2 жыл бұрын
@@JAMESWUERTELE Excellent mower you're blessed with. Yes, slow blade engage [via handle] is best policy, assuring longevity. [As engaging auto's manual trans. clutch in 1st gear> easy does it]. Glad you enjoyed mowing your lawn. God[Bible] Bless you much. :-)
@appleztooranges
@appleztooranges 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the Honda HRX217HYA. Thanks
@DawnJiang-kd6me
@DawnJiang-kd6me Ай бұрын
I have a honda hrx 217 hya to.
@Capmybets
@Capmybets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice mowers. I’ll keep my toro 21 Briggs 6.75hp with side discharge. It can do the same as those Hondas. For 400 bucks new 10 or so years ago and still going strong. Might not mulch as good but that’s about it
@franciscocastillo9409
@franciscocastillo9409 Жыл бұрын
You have to try it to understand these Hondas are amazing
@Capmybets
@Capmybets Жыл бұрын
@@franciscocastillo9409 I got one now. The 217 hrx it’s way better than my old toro mower. Thanks
@SuperTalleyho
@SuperTalleyho 2 жыл бұрын
MY 216 leaves a lot of grass behind the mulch plug.
@parkerk7018
@parkerk7018 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest downside for me about the HRC 216 is that you cannot adjust the handle bars which is a big problem for me because I’m very tall and because of that I love the higher handle bars on the hrx217
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’m with you there and I did like how the HRX handle bars can fold completely up for storage purposes if you are limited on space. Fortunately that isn’t a major issue
@parkerk7018
@parkerk7018 2 жыл бұрын
@@brentmarkham9855 and the lighter weight of the hrx217 makes a difference too for moving it around and is another plus
@trumpwon8231
@trumpwon8231 4 ай бұрын
How tall are you I’m 6’ 3”
@got2getit204
@got2getit204 2 жыл бұрын
When your doing leaf clean ups the hrx because i mulch then turn around and suck em (pause) right up at the same time!
@scottdbarr
@scottdbarr 2 жыл бұрын
Great review between HRC vs HRX. I bought a used HRC back in 2000, still using it. Replaced all 4 tires, change oil once a year, on third bag. Live in Florida so I mow every week in the spring and summer and every 2 or 3 weeks in the winter. Lots of sand so the blades need to be replaced every 5 years or so. I have gone through about 4 carburetors because I was using gas with ethanol which will leave a varnish coating inside the carburetor. So now I use Non-ethanol based gas and at the end of each mowing I empty the gas from the tank and run it dry.
@markbrisec3972
@markbrisec3972 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Honda is installing a smaller and weaker engine on their commercial grade mower than on the semi commercial HRX217. I know it's a commercial grade engine with better air filtration, with an oil filter and multiple other things that make it commercial, but it's still 1 HP weaker and around 2 fp of torque less than the GCV 200 on the HRX. Anybody who's ever mowed a lawn, whether professionally or his own property, knows that you can't have too much power on a walk behind mower. Tall, thick and wet grass will bog down a mower sooner or later, but more power gives you less bogging down and better airflow if you're bagging.
@markbrisec3972
@markbrisec3972 3 жыл бұрын
I simply love the HRX217 model and I've been using them exclusively for my small lawn business. I love the plastic deck which makes it considerably lighter and the clippings don't stick to the deck as much as they do to aluminum or steel decks. The 200cc engine is more powerful than the one on HRC216, and although not commercial grade I never had any problems with it. Next the HRX217 has a brilliant Versamow system that allows you to mulch, bag or discharge with a pull of a lever. No mulch plugs. That being said there are 2 things I don't like on this mower. First is the height adjustment system that has a separate lever for each wheel. Come on Honda, you can improve that, one lever for each axle would be just fine. The other con comes from the fact that the HRX217 isn't a commercial grade mower and therefore it's much less sturdy and sometimes feels flimsy or wobbly. But if you take good care of her, especially during the transport, HRX217 should serve you many years as a commercial mower and probably a lifetime if you're a residential user who mows his lawn once a week.
@WJCTechyman
@WJCTechyman Жыл бұрын
I like the height adjustment system as it takes me very little time to set it on a Honda vs the odd system on ExMark where you have to physically remove each front wheel and slot it into another hole.
@jerrythecoo3295
@jerrythecoo3295 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 2009 HRC-216 as well,………. She spanks that grass like it’s nobody’s business!!!!👀😏😎👍🤘👋✌️🇨🇦🌟 #Justkeepingitreal #Hondarulesnuffsaid
@LeonMTan
@LeonMTan 3 жыл бұрын
i personally think honda should put gcv190/200 onto that HRC216 body to make it less heavyer, "commercial grade" gxv160 engine does last longer but it's under powered and oddly heavy.
@erichammond2466
@erichammond2466 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned the Honda composite deck mowers along with the auto-choke system and personally hated the mower as it did not pick up well and the auto choke was terrible. Switched over to the HRC216 Commercial and LOVE IT. It picks up GREAT and the manual choke lever is perfect. This mower will last forever.
@PSkitt82
@PSkitt82 3 жыл бұрын
I was somewhat disappointed in my HRX 217 when I brought it home and realized it didn't have the blade brake feature that would still let the engine run after the blade stopped. Then again, I got it from Lowe's. I bet I would have probably gotten the feature I wanted if I went to straight to a Honda dealer.
@estaldamasnl88
@estaldamasnl88 3 жыл бұрын
You have 30 days to return it
@PSkitt82
@PSkitt82 3 жыл бұрын
@@estaldamasnl88 Nah, I actually like it. It cuts great. Probably the best we've ever had cut our yard. I just wish we had the blade clutch control. It would save time. That's all. The good news is I am only mowing my yard and maybe some friends' yards here and there. So no high expectations to perform at top rate except to make nice yards. 😊👍
@estaldamasnl88
@estaldamasnl88 3 жыл бұрын
@@PSkitt82 I am currently driving two hrs to pick mine up. Currently have a Troy bilt with Honda engine that works like a charm for past 8 yrs but this San Agustine grass fills bag every 3 rows. Mulching will solve this issue plus blade stop when bagging.
@PSkitt82
@PSkitt82 3 жыл бұрын
@@estaldamasnl88 Yeah, I mostly just mulch with mine anyway, so I guess I really don't need the blade clutch.
@Jerry-me1fy
@Jerry-me1fy 3 жыл бұрын
To get what you want it's $750 at least Lowe's wouldn't carry those
@thbigboaby50
@thbigboaby50 3 жыл бұрын
Good video but why the bag on the 217 if you were mulching.
@shanechostetler9997
@shanechostetler9997 3 жыл бұрын
I have mowed a huge amount of yard on two properties with the previous gen HRR216, 12 years and finally this spring, the height adjust bracket on the right rear wheel broke, the engine keeps purring away. I will buy the current new model, weld the old one up and get 150 for it. Not a bad amortization on a $349 mower 12 years later!
@chriscostlow4210
@chriscostlow4210 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the hrx217 but with less than 20 hours on mine it blew out the valve stem seat and then caused my rocker arm on exhaust side to break. I think I'm gonna stick with Toro on my next purchase.
@dannymartinez8522
@dannymartinez8522 3 жыл бұрын
With what motor?
@chriscostlow4210
@chriscostlow4210 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannymartinez8522 it's the gcv190 engine.
@Jerry-me1fy
@Jerry-me1fy 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a cheap $250 Craftsman lawn mower it doesn't buy grass very well and always clogs up after one strip in thick grass ,every 30 seconds i have to pull the bag off and pull grass out there it backs up. Would buying a Honda lawn mower making a difference bagging the grass?
@itptires
@itptires 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need to cut more often or when it's drier out. I have my sprinklers programmed not to run the day before and the day of mowing
@ADayInTheLifeOfJames
@ADayInTheLifeOfJames 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review mate Thankyou; I’ve made my mind up!
@pdiddy823
@pdiddy823 3 жыл бұрын
Bro your review was awesome! Better than some “landscapers” review! I appreciate the actual show and tell!
@pdiddy823
@pdiddy823 3 жыл бұрын
So 12” grass, is the front tire 12”?
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 3 жыл бұрын
Tires are 8", but yes I would say the grass is around one foot tall. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
@omarleslie5299
@omarleslie5299 3 жыл бұрын
That's some lush grass
@thegreek8962
@thegreek8962 3 жыл бұрын
I own the HRC216. My HRC216 was purchased on July 2, 2001. I use it for home only on 25,000 sq' mow~able area. It has cut in the rain and thru 4" of wet grass with ease. I have had "ZERO," issues what so ever and I mean NADA!. Plug changed 6 times, 4 fuel filters, 8 air cleaners with the blade unit sharpened 3 times each on 2 new blades. I can honestly say that I could have gotten by with less maintenance upkeep, but old habits die hard. If I had to replace my HRC216 I would buy another just like it. IMHO, there is no match for the HRC216 ever made by any company EVER! ~~ "FYI." I offer the simple fact that any major issues that may arise, thanks to KZbin, I will be able to resolve, leaving my HRC216 being the same hard working mower for at least another 20yrs...........
@nelsoninman3678
@nelsoninman3678 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you get a toro timemaster?
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Exmark Commercial 30, I purchased that instead of Toro Timemaster. I like the look and engine better on the Exmark.
@jessegarcia744
@jessegarcia744 3 жыл бұрын
I have both. The HRC217 is my everyday mower. Cuts better on high grass and when wet... The HRC216 has a better cut and bagging.
@charliewilson9723
@charliewilson9723 3 жыл бұрын
Dude u need a zero for that yard anyway
@dwayneloftice2326
@dwayneloftice2326 3 жыл бұрын
Junk....pure junk is a Honda mower. My last one lasted 3 years until a frozen axle seized up and became no longer functional. Total Junk! A Snapper has replaced it with precision and control. One hand operations is all that is needed. Where is the class action law suit against Honda for building such garbage?
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 3 жыл бұрын
Dwayne Loftice What model Honda are you referring to? Just stating “Honda Mower” is pretty vague, there are many models.
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 3 жыл бұрын
Dwayne Loftice Last I checked, Snapper 21” commercial mowers were powered by a Honda GX engine. 😝
@dwayneloftice2326
@dwayneloftice2326 3 жыл бұрын
@@brentmarkham9855 ....t You would be WRONG about that. Mine has a 8HP B&S that starts on the first pull.....everytime!
@boballmendinger3799
@boballmendinger3799 3 жыл бұрын
Just checked, the 21" is available with either engine....
@bigmike6853
@bigmike6853 4 жыл бұрын
They both mulched extremely well considering how tall that grass was. Didn't see any clumping? Honda rules!
@javiertulande2362
@javiertulande2362 4 жыл бұрын
Y cual ed la diferencia de precios y características de las dos??no hablo ingles
@goons123flofy
@goons123flofy 4 жыл бұрын
No backing up with mover, safety first. Thanks 4 video
@lynheydt3304
@lynheydt3304 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind spending the extra money for something that’s going to last. I still have my 24 year old troybilt yes before the were bought out by m t d. Back then I think I payed close to 450 the problem is I can’t get parts for it. I guess most people don’t keep there lawnmowers that long. I hope I get just
@lynheydt3304
@lynheydt3304 4 жыл бұрын
Service out of it sorry hit the send to soon
@colechalmers5023
@colechalmers5023 4 жыл бұрын
I have the GCV 200 HRX 217 . I installed a tachometer and it was running from factory at 2,800 rpms. I set it at 3,450 at max throttle. I have been told the blades can handel 3,600 rpm. But man it cuts and bags way better . Ill put my modified mower against that commercial lol
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same mower. Have you had any issues with it since adjusting the rpm? Is there just a screw on the governor or something you adjust?
@patrickrafferty9156
@patrickrafferty9156 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought mine today and was surprised at how low the rpm is set but then it did the job perfectly lol also very quiet ! how do you modify the rpm ?
@stevebaker8138
@stevebaker8138 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison vid Brent.
@MikeMikeSmith
@MikeMikeSmith 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 217, I looked at getting the higher grade commercial mower, but couldn’t justify paying a 3rd more. The 217 has been great! I WOULD recommend paying extra for the Hydrostatic Cruise Control.
@dannymartinez8522
@dannymartinez8522 3 жыл бұрын
I heard the deck is made out of some plastic to make it lighter. Does the deck hold it's own?
@toddpacker7058
@toddpacker7058 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannymartinez8522 no, cracks to bits within the first year of ownership.
@raypowell1534
@raypowell1534 4 жыл бұрын
Your not really comparing apples to apples, it’s more apples to oranges. The HRC has double clutch, steel deck commercial motor and longevity. The HRX isn’t commercial at all it’s more a upgrade from the homeowner version. Don’t get me wrong Honda mowers are the best in my opinion and owning a lawn service Honda HRC is the only mower I buy.
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 4 жыл бұрын
Ray Powell Well stated! I actually sold that HRX 217 in the review and only use the Honda HRC 216 and Exmark Commercial 30 model. However, I am interested in trying out an Exmark Commercial 21X Series with the Kawasaki FJ engine.
@richstonich3211
@richstonich3211 4 жыл бұрын
@@brentmarkham9855 can you do a review on the HRC vs the 30 Exmark. I have a lot of lawn and tiffway with is difficult on mulching. I am very much thinking of upgrading to a 30 inch if the mulching is good.
@corneliusevazan1284
@corneliusevazan1284 4 жыл бұрын
You failed to mention which Transmission you like better; the belt and pulley on the HRX217 or the shaft drive on the Commercial model?
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 4 жыл бұрын
Cornelius Evazan Definitely the shaft drive on the commercial, not even worth comparing. That drive system on the HRC216 is one of the best! Thanks for mentioning that.
@horsemany
@horsemany 4 жыл бұрын
@@brentmarkham9855 it should be noted if you have HRX217HYA version it has a constant tension belt with hydro transmission. More reliable than most belt drive transmissions which loosen and tighten each time drive is engaged. Maybe not as nice as shaft drive but very smooth and reliable.
@zipzap4706
@zipzap4706 3 жыл бұрын
Shaft - all day, every day
@dvdfrnzwbr
@dvdfrnzwbr 4 жыл бұрын
If you're cutting every day I'd say ya spend the extra money for the heavy duty constructed model. But for a Residence that is only going to use the mower 1 - 2 hours a week the lesser construction will suffice. And the lesser model has the Bag/ Mulch door with settings, and adjustable height and storage handle. The lighter weight is also an advantage when turning the mower around after each pass, less work.
@mjot2360
@mjot2360 4 жыл бұрын
On the HRC did you push the throttle just past the fast detent to gain more RPM when bagging? I just bought an HRC216 and it runs a higher RPM when pushed past fast stop. It seem to cut better that way. Thanks
@brentmarkham9855
@brentmarkham9855 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Triolo Yes I totally agree, that’s how I run mine also, it does make a difference!
@noahmcelwey2598
@noahmcelwey2598 4 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing. I have a question for you, how high are you mulching on something like Bermuda, here in Texas we have this clover shit everywhere and my hrc 216 won't mulch it for shit, and I feel like it should have more power. I've seen consumer grade mowers that are better at mulching, cheap consumer grade too
@robertbrown2861
@robertbrown2861 4 жыл бұрын
Put a better mulching blade on the commercial mower for mulching it might help