I don't think this applies to the "woke" mentality now, it would be hard to write Glorfindel in as such a powerful character noting that he suddenly just dissapears when the fellowship is sent out and shows up at the end of the war against sauron, amazing as he is it would not be good for the flow of the movie as people would wonder where this immense powerful being suddenly went.
@nickmakhatadze9696Ай бұрын
That was the biggest mistake changing Glorfindel with Arwen
@v.e.72362 ай бұрын
Um, Melkor did not rename himself, the Elves gave hime the name Morgoth (Black Enemy) after witnessing his treachery and dark intent. smh
@marki-l4c2 ай бұрын
do the wizards have a clear memory of their lives before appearing in middle earth? they knew saruman was boss and their purpose…
@Ronsilk-pu5hr2 ай бұрын
So they took out the greatest elf in history for toxic feminism great
@hamadalhuzami68962 ай бұрын
Bro your description kills😂😂😂 you deserve a like❤️
@CE777772 ай бұрын
Their gonna say this is woke lol
@peewee02242 ай бұрын
Let alone when eowyn kills the witch king by saying I am no man. This movie would have been canceled for being “woke”
@Dtitilator2 ай бұрын
@peewee0224 subtle nods to it is fine, but blatantly shoving it in your face isn't.
@TheGreeneyed233 ай бұрын
Question was he able to go back and forth to valor ? Or he was stuck in the body of man forever as Gandalf ?
@DT-qj8vr3 ай бұрын
I think that Glorfindel was actually shown/ listed in the films. However, I do believe the first Elf next to Elrond in the clip you showed would have been a better cast as Glorf. Also, as fantastic as a part Liv Tyler played, I think I can speak for all Tolkien fans when I say we wished Ol’ Glorfnuts was shown intimidating/ driving away the Nazgul in his light form.
@SK4Madhi_Freal2 ай бұрын
I know right. He would have been such an amazing cameo. We all know he was too powerful to join the fellowship
@chrisberotti58765 ай бұрын
See Melkor really wasn't a bad guy. He just looked around and saw all the other Valar had hot wives and he's like WTF dad! Well I'm just going to be a hater now
@jrabele5 ай бұрын
Tolkien didn't make a big deal out of it but Tom Bombadil was a registered Middle Earth sex offender...
@ir8free6 ай бұрын
Thangorodrim: an iconic trio of hollow funnels - unnatural "volcanos" that Morgoth raised to discharge slag from Angband.
@ir8free6 ай бұрын
and he caused incest. very evil.
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
I put this together in between lore projects. Let me know if this is something you'd like to see a bit more of!
@yourbiv8 ай бұрын
I like that intelligent Dragons has come to be the norm in modern fantasy.
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@ir8free6 ай бұрын
as cunning as the raptors of the jp/jw franchise
@yourbiv8 ай бұрын
My favorite Tolkien character by far ❤
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
That’s practically the reason I did the video!!! Haha hope you enjoy it!
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
Do you think Glaurung was the most evil dragon? Should I cover the others?
@Swiftbeorn8 ай бұрын
I haven’t heard anyone else talk about Beorn and the Vale in this way and its how I’ve always thought of them - as protectors. He leaves his isolation and becomes the leader that men need. Its such an amazing story. Thank you for this video!
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! These comments keep me going! Great to have you here and can't wait to see your thoughts on other videos.
@jaydav048 ай бұрын
Glorfindel was a badass, nuff said.
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
☝️ spot on!
@RobSojourn8 ай бұрын
You need to do better research, several things were wrong
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
I appreciate any critiques. I do dive deep when I write out my scripts, but this is a hobby and I can only grant it so much of my time. Feel free to point them out and I will add them to my knowledge for the future. Thanks!
@ktiemz8 ай бұрын
I didn't notice any glaurung mistakes. Care to Elu-cidate?
@RobSojourn8 ай бұрын
@@ktiemz 2 that immediately stood out, Glorfindel did not cause the flood or horse-waves outside Riverdale, that was Elrond with a Gandalf assist. The other is that when he died, what was special was how quickly he got a new body, as most elves are reimbodied once their souls are ready. Glorfindel's selfless sacrifice was what strengthened his soul as that is an action that Eru appears to appreciate (see Gandalf's return)
@ktiemz8 ай бұрын
@@RobSojourn even experts can make mistakes, you should be a content creator, or a consultant at least!
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
I can see and appreciate the info on who cast the “spell.” Thank you for that!
@takecarey8 ай бұрын
Chad of the Rings
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
😂
@ir8free7 ай бұрын
Tulkas, champion of Arda
@ktiemz8 ай бұрын
wow new channel with high quality production? new sub. however, Arwen did not only replace Glorfindel in the movie for plot streamlining and female representation purposes, but also as a plot device and reward for the male hero, Aragorn. ps. are you using AI images? there's a lot of artwork i've never seen before. just curious.
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! I use a mix of AI and original artwork. I had a ton of fear around “fair use” and copyright when I began the channel so my first video is rough in many aspects… It has essentially all AI images and I learned a ton from it. I’ve evolved into mixing film video and stills with artwork and some AI to fill the gaps. Good luck to you!
@ktiemz8 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship I look forward to seeing where this channel goes! keep up the good work!
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
Stick with me. I’ll do my best to deliver. Also, i don’t think ever knew about the “reward” of Arwen lines of thought but I can appreciate the idea!
@thearnorianruby46818 ай бұрын
He killed what is essentially a Fallen Angel, a.k.a a Balrog.
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
I can see the parallels. Good call out!
@wobblertv80838 ай бұрын
Killed a Balrog .Nuff said .
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
☝️This! Couldn’t agree more!
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
Are there any other Elves that match or surpass Glorfindel in your eyes? Let us know!
@thearnorianruby46818 ай бұрын
King Turgon, I think.
@ktiemz8 ай бұрын
Elu Thingol was tall, mighty and wise, despite his haughtiness. I don't think the elder king looks favorably on haughtiness though...
@ktiemz8 ай бұрын
@@thearnorianruby4681 Turgon certainly was admirable. He knew to trust in wisdom beyond his understanding. But could he slay a balrog??...
@thearnorianruby46818 ай бұрын
@@ktiemz I think he killed Gothmog, but I may be wrong. Want me to get back to you on it tomorrow?
@ktiemz8 ай бұрын
@@thearnorianruby4681 all good! Ecthelion of the Fountain slew Gothmog. It is still remembered where I live
@WorldoftheThings8 ай бұрын
Glorfindel was such a BA character
@FablesoftheFellowship8 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@yourbiv9 ай бұрын
Beorn is another one of those interesting characters that point to a whole world of magic and mysteries that never get directly mentioned in Tolkiens work.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
I agree! We all know the "soft" magic aspect of Tolkien's lore and as much as I would love a fleshed out system, it's fun to speculate!
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Do you think Beorn would have been on par with a Balrog? Or am I way off?
@HarryK-ud1vt9 ай бұрын
I think that would be a reach. 😅 I feel like Beorn would be squished pretty quickly.
@EmmettF.W.9 ай бұрын
That rendition got you a Sub 😎 🧊🧊 👦
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Let’s go!! I appreciate you. Everyone else is giving the opposite impression 😅
@Torstenn-b3x9 ай бұрын
One thing that might explain Sauron and Saruman coming from Aule's stable so to speak is that, aside from Melkor himself, Aule is the only one of the Valar known to have _significantly_ erred according to what he was supposed to have done. Namely, he made the Dwarves in secret, knowing full well the plans of Eru in terms of the Firstborn (the Elves) and Men that followed. Of course, Eru discovered this and may not have been pleased initially, hence Aule offered to destroy the Dwarves before Eru forgave him and gave them true life, but it perhaps hints to something in Tolkien's writing about the pridefulness that comes from crafting things of power. Which brings us naturally to Sauron, as perhaps the second (or third, depending on where you put Feanor) most powerful crafter of things after Aule, and to a lesser degree Saruman. The latter was also a forger of magical rings, although far less powerful than the ones Sauron and Celebrimbor forged. Perhaps the urge to craft is but one step away from the desire to control and dominate...as opposed to I imagine the more free and libertarian vibe of someone like Yavanna.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Such a great breakdown and analysis, overall. Others have said something similar but you’ve added even more detail and it seems you’re on to something! Thank you !
@Torstenn-b3x9 ай бұрын
Excellent video overall, thank you! Only a couple of points to clarify: - 1. _Technically_ all the Valar set foot on (early) Middle Earth, as their first home was on the Isle of Almaren in the Great Lake in the first version of Middle Earth (during the time of the Lamps) before it was remade. It was only after this was destroyed by Melkor that the Valar moved to Valinor on Aman. 2. Melkor (meaning "the Mighty One" or perhaps more accurately "He Who Arises in Might") never to my knowledge called _himself_ "Morgoth". "Morgoth" was a name given to him by Fëanor when Melkor destroyed the Trees of Valinaor, killed his father and took the Silmarils, meaning "Dark Enemy" or "Black Foe" and was was essentially a curse. He was also known as Morgoth Bauglir, which added the word for Tyrant/Oppressor onto an already foul name.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words and critiques! I am torn over Almaren = Middle Earth. Imo, as that was an entirely different piece of land before being reshaped, they are different places entirely. But I do get the other side as well. Either way, I love the discussion! Thank you
@jaredisaacson82639 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Thank you Jared! I appreciate it!
@SpremeCalami9 ай бұрын
So, from what I’ve gathered from a lot of art and imagery of Arda is that it is a flat plane right? So a creature like Ungoliant must have come into Arda from above it. Maybe creatures came from underneath as well? As there were no powers to control them like there was for creatures like Ungoliant, these creatures were able to reproduce and spread rapidly covering the entire underside of Arda. Here, they eat tunnels through the stone over millennia trying to make their way up towards where the life essence is strongest, on the surface.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
You may have something here! I like the imagery you're giving me too. Thank you!
@ADRIANOS2599 ай бұрын
I was recently thinking about this...because how Tolkien wrote about them made me curious and i can imagine it can be horryfing to be down there. So yeah there should be a fananimation about this fleeing and fighting in the depths of Arda...maybe an offspring of Ungoliant could be there too, an offspring who is much more terrible than Shelob. The fananimation would be like a sick horror video...maybe i will work on something like this in the future. I always missed fananimations about Silmarilion and Lotr...i mean just imagine an animation about the alliance of Melkor and Ungoliant, their escape and their fight
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
I'm telling you what, if I had any animation ability, this would be up there on what I might create. I can see it if I close my eyes, almost like an anime style chase but of course keeping it Tolkien inspired. This is great... Thank you!
@Brek_Kelstro9 ай бұрын
I smell ChatGBT influence in this script
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
How dare you, sir! That’s an insult to AI everywhere. I appreciate all critiques, though! Good luck to you!
@Brek_Kelstro9 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship wasn't a critique! If you didn't use it, then it's a compliment 😉
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry I took it the wrong way! I have so many different sources to double check and triple check other sources it sometimes all bleeds into each other. Either way, thank you so much for the comments! Good luck to you!
@badmotherfucker63289 ай бұрын
Please never rap again.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Well it’s on the internet, and I can’t stop it now, but I promise to take it into consideration. I appreciate the critique!!!
@IDieHardForever9 ай бұрын
That rap was like a bad local furniture store commercial in 1992... i think i'm out lol
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Is it weird that this is exactly what I was going for? You may not want the furniture but you will always remember the jingle…
@IDieHardForever9 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship hahahaha well - fair enough lol touche
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the good laugh, Hex! Good luck to you, I hope to see you in the future comments as well!
@greghenrikson9529 ай бұрын
I view this as the Balrog flying up through what is essentially a hollow earth to escape the clutches of the nameless things. Gandalf grabs him and has to periodically fight to stay on.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
This may be the case but as I said in another comment, was it just 10 days of running and grasping and fighting each other?
@SliderFury19 ай бұрын
"pursued him, clutching at his heel" sounds like the Balrog was booking it out of there as fast as he could with Gandalf literally hanging onto him for dear life. The team up idea is cool but I think is reading too much out of the few words we have, which are simple but clear.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
I actually agree with you mostly, I just love the imagery more than anything. However, it was 10 days… it was just a chase/hold on for dear life for 10 days? Maybe because they are demi-gods the 10 days is more like an hour to you and me?
@hmmuhhh57159 ай бұрын
I picture what under zeds shack in pulp fiction where Marcellus Wallace and butch team up
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
😅😳
@brianofphobos88629 ай бұрын
Tolkien to the end of his life refused to explain much about Tom. He said "Even in a fantasy world, some things must remain a mystery".
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Exactly this! Thank you Brian!
@XansStuff9 ай бұрын
Varda created the stars after the shaping of Arda, not before. They were created after the toppling of Illuin and Ormal to give some light for the awakening of the elves
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the correction. I’ll make sure to this information for any future videos about it!
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Share your thoughts!! Does the “rap” work? 😂 Did Gandalf and Durin’s Bane team up against the Nameless Things?
@yourbiv9 ай бұрын
It for sure sounds like something out of a Lovecraft story. And that make sense, Lovecraft's works were popular by the time Tolkien wrote LOTR.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Great callout and spot on @youbiv!
@HaroldCone9 ай бұрын
So the best explanation is that he is an anomaly that was born in the creation of the world and does not fit into any category.
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Yep! That is probably the likely but least “fun” answer.
@lutandomhlalase44169 ай бұрын
Sauron and saruman served Aule, then Gandelf served Manwe
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Spot on! Any thoughts as to why Sauron and Saruman lost their ways and became evil?
@lutandomhlalase44169 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship sauron was so obsessed with ordering and thought that only he could do it and well became power hungry and was convinced by Melkor to join him in his conquest of Arda . Saruman was power hungry wishing he could achieve the same power as Sauron and even attempted to make his own ring of power
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Great assessment! Thank you for sharing!
@lutandomhlalase44169 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship thank I have read the silmarilion
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
That’s great! Definitely a little heavier/intricate than the Hobbit 😅
@georgemercer4029 ай бұрын
Just to share, I made representations of 4 blades from your video here during one of my plays of Skyrim: 1. A Glass Dagger for Sting 2. A Nordic sword for Orcrist 3. An Iron Greatsword for Glamdring 4. A Dragonbone Greatsword for Narsil/Anduril I used anti-daedra and anti-undead enchantments to work around the warning ones from Tolkien's work
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
This is the kind of cross platform lore that I LOVE. I mean, if you carried those blades with you in-game, it was assured you would win! Thank you so much for the comment!
@georgemercer4029 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship Anytime; they were only the best representations I could think of though
@FablesoftheFellowship9 ай бұрын
Keep any fun details like this coming. Good luck to you!