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@ferpect911
@ferpect911 Ай бұрын
I don't think this applies to the "woke" mentality now, it would be hard to write Glorfindel in as such a powerful character noting that he suddenly just dissapears when the fellowship is sent out and shows up at the end of the war against sauron, amazing as he is it would not be good for the flow of the movie as people would wonder where this immense powerful being suddenly went.
@nickmakhatadze9696
@nickmakhatadze9696 Ай бұрын
That was the biggest mistake changing Glorfindel with Arwen
@v.e.7236
@v.e.7236 2 ай бұрын
Um, Melkor did not rename himself, the Elves gave hime the name Morgoth (Black Enemy) after witnessing his treachery and dark intent. smh
@marki-l4c
@marki-l4c 2 ай бұрын
do the wizards have a clear memory of their lives before appearing in middle earth? they knew saruman was boss and their purpose…
@Ronsilk-pu5hr
@Ronsilk-pu5hr 2 ай бұрын
So they took out the greatest elf in history for toxic feminism great
@hamadalhuzami6896
@hamadalhuzami6896 2 ай бұрын
Bro your description kills😂😂😂 you deserve a like❤️
@CE77777
@CE77777 2 ай бұрын
Their gonna say this is woke lol
@peewee0224
@peewee0224 2 ай бұрын
Let alone when eowyn kills the witch king by saying I am no man. This movie would have been canceled for being “woke”
@Dtitilator
@Dtitilator 2 ай бұрын
​@peewee0224 subtle nods to it is fine, but blatantly shoving it in your face isn't.
@TheGreeneyed23
@TheGreeneyed23 3 ай бұрын
Question was he able to go back and forth to valor ? Or he was stuck in the body of man forever as Gandalf ?
@DT-qj8vr
@DT-qj8vr 3 ай бұрын
I think that Glorfindel was actually shown/ listed in the films. However, I do believe the first Elf next to Elrond in the clip you showed would have been a better cast as Glorf. Also, as fantastic as a part Liv Tyler played, I think I can speak for all Tolkien fans when I say we wished Ol’ Glorfnuts was shown intimidating/ driving away the Nazgul in his light form.
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal 2 ай бұрын
I know right. He would have been such an amazing cameo. We all know he was too powerful to join the fellowship
@chrisberotti5876
@chrisberotti5876 5 ай бұрын
See Melkor really wasn't a bad guy. He just looked around and saw all the other Valar had hot wives and he's like WTF dad! Well I'm just going to be a hater now
@jrabele
@jrabele 5 ай бұрын
Tolkien didn't make a big deal out of it but Tom Bombadil was a registered Middle Earth sex offender...
@ir8free
@ir8free 6 ай бұрын
Thangorodrim: an iconic trio of hollow funnels - unnatural "volcanos" that Morgoth raised to discharge slag from Angband.
@ir8free
@ir8free 6 ай бұрын
and he caused incest. very evil.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
I put this together in between lore projects. Let me know if this is something you'd like to see a bit more of!
@yourbiv
@yourbiv 8 ай бұрын
I like that intelligent Dragons has come to be the norm in modern fantasy.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@ir8free
@ir8free 6 ай бұрын
as cunning as the raptors of the jp/jw franchise
@yourbiv
@yourbiv 8 ай бұрын
My favorite Tolkien character by far ❤
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
That’s practically the reason I did the video!!! Haha hope you enjoy it!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
Do you think Glaurung was the most evil dragon? Should I cover the others?
@Swiftbeorn
@Swiftbeorn 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t heard anyone else talk about Beorn and the Vale in this way and its how I’ve always thought of them - as protectors. He leaves his isolation and becomes the leader that men need. Its such an amazing story. Thank you for this video!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! These comments keep me going! Great to have you here and can't wait to see your thoughts on other videos.
@jaydav04
@jaydav04 8 ай бұрын
Glorfindel was a badass, nuff said.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
☝️ spot on!
@RobSojourn
@RobSojourn 8 ай бұрын
You need to do better research, several things were wrong
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate any critiques. I do dive deep when I write out my scripts, but this is a hobby and I can only grant it so much of my time. Feel free to point them out and I will add them to my knowledge for the future. Thanks!
@ktiemz
@ktiemz 8 ай бұрын
I didn't notice any glaurung mistakes. Care to Elu-cidate?
@RobSojourn
@RobSojourn 8 ай бұрын
@@ktiemz 2 that immediately stood out, Glorfindel did not cause the flood or horse-waves outside Riverdale, that was Elrond with a Gandalf assist. The other is that when he died, what was special was how quickly he got a new body, as most elves are reimbodied once their souls are ready. Glorfindel's selfless sacrifice was what strengthened his soul as that is an action that Eru appears to appreciate (see Gandalf's return)
@ktiemz
@ktiemz 8 ай бұрын
@@RobSojourn even experts can make mistakes, you should be a content creator, or a consultant at least!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
I can see and appreciate the info on who cast the “spell.” Thank you for that!
@takecarey
@takecarey 8 ай бұрын
Chad of the Rings
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
😂
@ir8free
@ir8free 7 ай бұрын
Tulkas, champion of Arda
@ktiemz
@ktiemz 8 ай бұрын
wow new channel with high quality production? new sub. however, Arwen did not only replace Glorfindel in the movie for plot streamlining and female representation purposes, but also as a plot device and reward for the male hero, Aragorn. ps. are you using AI images? there's a lot of artwork i've never seen before. just curious.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! I use a mix of AI and original artwork. I had a ton of fear around “fair use” and copyright when I began the channel so my first video is rough in many aspects… It has essentially all AI images and I learned a ton from it. I’ve evolved into mixing film video and stills with artwork and some AI to fill the gaps. Good luck to you!
@ktiemz
@ktiemz 8 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship I look forward to seeing where this channel goes! keep up the good work!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
Stick with me. I’ll do my best to deliver. Also, i don’t think ever knew about the “reward” of Arwen lines of thought but I can appreciate the idea!
@thearnorianruby4681
@thearnorianruby4681 8 ай бұрын
He killed what is essentially a Fallen Angel, a.k.a a Balrog.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
I can see the parallels. Good call out!
@wobblertv8083
@wobblertv8083 8 ай бұрын
Killed a Balrog .Nuff said .
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
☝️This! Couldn’t agree more!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
Are there any other Elves that match or surpass Glorfindel in your eyes? Let us know!
@thearnorianruby4681
@thearnorianruby4681 8 ай бұрын
King Turgon, I think.
@ktiemz
@ktiemz 8 ай бұрын
Elu Thingol was tall, mighty and wise, despite his haughtiness. I don't think the elder king looks favorably on haughtiness though...
@ktiemz
@ktiemz 8 ай бұрын
@@thearnorianruby4681 Turgon certainly was admirable. He knew to trust in wisdom beyond his understanding. But could he slay a balrog??...
@thearnorianruby4681
@thearnorianruby4681 8 ай бұрын
@@ktiemz I think he killed Gothmog, but I may be wrong. Want me to get back to you on it tomorrow?
@ktiemz
@ktiemz 8 ай бұрын
@@thearnorianruby4681 all good! Ecthelion of the Fountain slew Gothmog. It is still remembered where I live
@WorldoftheThings
@WorldoftheThings 8 ай бұрын
Glorfindel was such a BA character
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 8 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@yourbiv
@yourbiv 9 ай бұрын
Beorn is another one of those interesting characters that point to a whole world of magic and mysteries that never get directly mentioned in Tolkiens work.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
I agree! We all know the "soft" magic aspect of Tolkien's lore and as much as I would love a fleshed out system, it's fun to speculate!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Do you think Beorn would have been on par with a Balrog? Or am I way off?
@HarryK-ud1vt
@HarryK-ud1vt 9 ай бұрын
I think that would be a reach. 😅 I feel like Beorn would be squished pretty quickly.
@EmmettF.W.
@EmmettF.W. 9 ай бұрын
That rendition got you a Sub 😎 🧊🧊 👦
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Let’s go!! I appreciate you. Everyone else is giving the opposite impression 😅
@Torstenn-b3x
@Torstenn-b3x 9 ай бұрын
One thing that might explain Sauron and Saruman coming from Aule's stable so to speak is that, aside from Melkor himself, Aule is the only one of the Valar known to have _significantly_ erred according to what he was supposed to have done. Namely, he made the Dwarves in secret, knowing full well the plans of Eru in terms of the Firstborn (the Elves) and Men that followed. Of course, Eru discovered this and may not have been pleased initially, hence Aule offered to destroy the Dwarves before Eru forgave him and gave them true life, but it perhaps hints to something in Tolkien's writing about the pridefulness that comes from crafting things of power. Which brings us naturally to Sauron, as perhaps the second (or third, depending on where you put Feanor) most powerful crafter of things after Aule, and to a lesser degree Saruman. The latter was also a forger of magical rings, although far less powerful than the ones Sauron and Celebrimbor forged. Perhaps the urge to craft is but one step away from the desire to control and dominate...as opposed to I imagine the more free and libertarian vibe of someone like Yavanna.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Such a great breakdown and analysis, overall. Others have said something similar but you’ve added even more detail and it seems you’re on to something! Thank you !
@Torstenn-b3x
@Torstenn-b3x 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video overall, thank you! Only a couple of points to clarify: - 1. _Technically_ all the Valar set foot on (early) Middle Earth, as their first home was on the Isle of Almaren in the Great Lake in the first version of Middle Earth (during the time of the Lamps) before it was remade. It was only after this was destroyed by Melkor that the Valar moved to Valinor on Aman. 2. Melkor (meaning "the Mighty One" or perhaps more accurately "He Who Arises in Might") never to my knowledge called _himself_ "Morgoth". "Morgoth" was a name given to him by Fëanor when Melkor destroyed the Trees of Valinaor, killed his father and took the Silmarils, meaning "Dark Enemy" or "Black Foe" and was was essentially a curse. He was also known as Morgoth Bauglir, which added the word for Tyrant/Oppressor onto an already foul name.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words and critiques! I am torn over Almaren = Middle Earth. Imo, as that was an entirely different piece of land before being reshaped, they are different places entirely. But I do get the other side as well. Either way, I love the discussion! Thank you
@jaredisaacson8263
@jaredisaacson8263 9 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Jared! I appreciate it!
@SpremeCalami
@SpremeCalami 9 ай бұрын
So, from what I’ve gathered from a lot of art and imagery of Arda is that it is a flat plane right? So a creature like Ungoliant must have come into Arda from above it. Maybe creatures came from underneath as well? As there were no powers to control them like there was for creatures like Ungoliant, these creatures were able to reproduce and spread rapidly covering the entire underside of Arda. Here, they eat tunnels through the stone over millennia trying to make their way up towards where the life essence is strongest, on the surface.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
You may have something here! I like the imagery you're giving me too. Thank you!
@ADRIANOS259
@ADRIANOS259 9 ай бұрын
I was recently thinking about this...because how Tolkien wrote about them made me curious and i can imagine it can be horryfing to be down there. So yeah there should be a fananimation about this fleeing and fighting in the depths of Arda...maybe an offspring of Ungoliant could be there too, an offspring who is much more terrible than Shelob. The fananimation would be like a sick horror video...maybe i will work on something like this in the future. I always missed fananimations about Silmarilion and Lotr...i mean just imagine an animation about the alliance of Melkor and Ungoliant, their escape and their fight
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
I'm telling you what, if I had any animation ability, this would be up there on what I might create. I can see it if I close my eyes, almost like an anime style chase but of course keeping it Tolkien inspired. This is great... Thank you!
@Brek_Kelstro
@Brek_Kelstro 9 ай бұрын
I smell ChatGBT influence in this script
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
How dare you, sir! That’s an insult to AI everywhere. I appreciate all critiques, though! Good luck to you!
@Brek_Kelstro
@Brek_Kelstro 9 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship wasn't a critique! If you didn't use it, then it's a compliment 😉
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry I took it the wrong way! I have so many different sources to double check and triple check other sources it sometimes all bleeds into each other. Either way, thank you so much for the comments! Good luck to you!
@badmotherfucker6328
@badmotherfucker6328 9 ай бұрын
Please never rap again.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Well it’s on the internet, and I can’t stop it now, but I promise to take it into consideration. I appreciate the critique!!!
@IDieHardForever
@IDieHardForever 9 ай бұрын
That rap was like a bad local furniture store commercial in 1992... i think i'm out lol
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Is it weird that this is exactly what I was going for? You may not want the furniture but you will always remember the jingle…
@IDieHardForever
@IDieHardForever 9 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship hahahaha well - fair enough lol touche
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the good laugh, Hex! Good luck to you, I hope to see you in the future comments as well!
@greghenrikson952
@greghenrikson952 9 ай бұрын
I view this as the Balrog flying up through what is essentially a hollow earth to escape the clutches of the nameless things. Gandalf grabs him and has to periodically fight to stay on.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
This may be the case but as I said in another comment, was it just 10 days of running and grasping and fighting each other?
@SliderFury1
@SliderFury1 9 ай бұрын
"pursued him, clutching at his heel" sounds like the Balrog was booking it out of there as fast as he could with Gandalf literally hanging onto him for dear life. The team up idea is cool but I think is reading too much out of the few words we have, which are simple but clear.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
I actually agree with you mostly, I just love the imagery more than anything. However, it was 10 days… it was just a chase/hold on for dear life for 10 days? Maybe because they are demi-gods the 10 days is more like an hour to you and me?
@hmmuhhh5715
@hmmuhhh5715 9 ай бұрын
I picture what under zeds shack in pulp fiction where Marcellus Wallace and butch team up
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
😅😳
@brianofphobos8862
@brianofphobos8862 9 ай бұрын
Tolkien to the end of his life refused to explain much about Tom. He said "Even in a fantasy world, some things must remain a mystery".
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Exactly this! Thank you Brian!
@XansStuff
@XansStuff 9 ай бұрын
Varda created the stars after the shaping of Arda, not before. They were created after the toppling of Illuin and Ormal to give some light for the awakening of the elves
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the correction. I’ll make sure to this information for any future videos about it!
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Share your thoughts!! Does the “rap” work? 😂 Did Gandalf and Durin’s Bane team up against the Nameless Things?
@yourbiv
@yourbiv 9 ай бұрын
It for sure sounds like something out of a Lovecraft story. And that make sense, Lovecraft's works were popular by the time Tolkien wrote LOTR.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Great callout and spot on @youbiv!
@HaroldCone
@HaroldCone 9 ай бұрын
So the best explanation is that he is an anomaly that was born in the creation of the world and does not fit into any category.
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Yep! That is probably the likely but least “fun” answer.
@lutandomhlalase4416
@lutandomhlalase4416 9 ай бұрын
Sauron and saruman served Aule, then Gandelf served Manwe
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Spot on! Any thoughts as to why Sauron and Saruman lost their ways and became evil?
@lutandomhlalase4416
@lutandomhlalase4416 9 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship sauron was so obsessed with ordering and thought that only he could do it and well became power hungry and was convinced by Melkor to join him in his conquest of Arda . Saruman was power hungry wishing he could achieve the same power as Sauron and even attempted to make his own ring of power
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Great assessment! Thank you for sharing!
@lutandomhlalase4416
@lutandomhlalase4416 9 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship thank I have read the silmarilion
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
That’s great! Definitely a little heavier/intricate than the Hobbit 😅
@georgemercer402
@georgemercer402 9 ай бұрын
Just to share, I made representations of 4 blades from your video here during one of my plays of Skyrim: 1. A Glass Dagger for Sting 2. A Nordic sword for Orcrist 3. An Iron Greatsword for Glamdring 4. A Dragonbone Greatsword for Narsil/Anduril I used anti-daedra and anti-undead enchantments to work around the warning ones from Tolkien's work
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
This is the kind of cross platform lore that I LOVE. I mean, if you carried those blades with you in-game, it was assured you would win! Thank you so much for the comment!
@georgemercer402
@georgemercer402 9 ай бұрын
@@FablesoftheFellowship Anytime; they were only the best representations I could think of though
@FablesoftheFellowship
@FablesoftheFellowship 9 ай бұрын
Keep any fun details like this coming. Good luck to you!