Sehr undurchsichtig der riesen Umfang. An 1.000 Stellen etwas eingeben, einstellen .... Ist wohl besser sich spezielle Arbeitsschemen zu erstellen. Bekommt man auch eine DXF hin, damit man die Daten im CAD bearbeiten kann? Oder besser die Punktwolken in das CAD einlesen um dort die Isohypsen zu generieren?
@christian_rietze3 ай бұрын
Sinn des Tutorials ist, eine Möglichkeit zu zeigen, wie die Laserscandaten der Vermessungsämter so aufzubereiten, um dann im OpenOrienteeringMapper (OOM) verwenden zu können. Die Alternative dazu ist, sich die Software ocad zu kaufen, was aber für private Anwender und kleine Vereine meist nicht bezahlbar ist, wenn nur selten Karten erstellt werden. OOM Anwender sind einen etwas schwierigeren Weg, um an Daten zu kommen gewohnt. Dafür kostet es nichts. Ich selbst erstelle meine Sprint-Karten mit OOM und die Waldkarten mit ocad.
@thomaspietsch863 ай бұрын
@@christian_rietze Ja. Habe ich mitbekommen. Bei richtig guter Software brauche ich nur georeferenzierte Punktdaten einlesen und die Oberfläche vermaschen.. Für Höhenlinien z.B. definiere ich nur die Äquidistanzen zwischenden gewünschten Isohypsen vor. Den Rest erledigt die Software. Erhalte aber ein digitales 3D-Modell. Auch Schummrung und wichtige Wassergefällelinien geht da so. Auch Geograf ist teuer. Dachte es hat von den vielen lieben Fleißigen schon solche Module geschrieben. Ich hatte noch das interpolierende händische Zeichnen von Wetterkarten und Geländemodellen gelernt. Schön, das sich was entwickelt hat. Danke für den Fleiß und weiter viel Freude.
@johnrobertson75833 ай бұрын
That has to be Finland, with all those stone fences/walls! 🙄
@UrbanOrienteering4 ай бұрын
Did you know that if you are using Routegadget to generate your route trace, to stop it showing in the video, you can pull down the transparency of the trace to 0 in the routegadget sliders? Thanks for keeping posting the videos 👍
@UrbanOrienteering4 ай бұрын
Sorry, I meant QuickRoute is where you can set the track transparency!
@christian_rietze4 ай бұрын
@@UrbanOrienteering Thanks, I'll implement it in the next video.
@johnrobertson75834 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your event. I am having so many issues trying to compile everything together to make a video. Using quickroute was fairly easy. Learning that i needed avidemux or capcut to splice the dumb multiple gopro videos together came next. Then came the learning curve of orientview to combine quickroute and the headcam…eventually got it. But…after trying to make all sorts of adjustments to the final route of my last event…the first 6 controls were punched at the exact moment in the video…but then the next three the video punch was almost two minutes before my track shows me at the control…and those are in spots that i cant move them…ie…ends of long doglegs that were both in and out. Then my battery died…so now i have a 1:25:00 video with a 1:55:00 run, which orientview cant respond to correctly…sheesh…
@gabibetancor42936 ай бұрын
Buen vídeo, en el primer control se sale el cursor del mapa. ¿Podrías subir un vídeo explicando como utilizas adobe premiere para realizar los videos? Me gustaría aprender. O si sabes algun tutorial o pagina para empezar a hacerlo. Se utilizar quickroute. Pero no adobe premiere. Exportar el archivo xml de quickroute? Con que items? Gracias amigo.
@johnrobertson75836 ай бұрын
1-2 wouldve worked well from the trail junction at the sharp bend in the road you used to get to 1, down the small re-entrant with less of a slope, and no lateral navigation.
@christian_rietze6 ай бұрын
The best route would probably to run north of the restricted area.
@johnrobertson75836 ай бұрын
Are the tracks of other competitors available on livelox or such? Im curious if anyone went left towards 13 or even a bit later on towards 18 to navigate along the edge of the prohibited zone.
@christian_rietze6 ай бұрын
The run ist on Livelox at: www.livelox.com/Events/Show/131126/Alpen-Adria-Cup-2024-Stage-1-Relay
@gabibetancor42936 ай бұрын
Hola amigo. que camara usas? Busco una camara barata para grabar mis carreras. que me recomiendas? Y que programa usas para realizar los videos con el mapa y gps intregrados? Gracias
@christian_rietze6 ай бұрын
Corro con una Gopro Hero 9 o una Insta360 Ace Pro. Para la vista del mapa utilizo Quickroute y lo edito con Adobe Premiere.
@gabibetancor42936 ай бұрын
@@christian_rietze sabes recomendarme una camara mas barata que esas?
@gabibetancor42936 ай бұрын
@@christian_rietze Tienes algun tutorial basico para empezar a hacer videos de este tipo? Gracias!
@christian_rietze6 ай бұрын
La cámara debe tener una buena estabilización de imagen. GoPro es bastante bueno allí.
@karstenlehmann10447 ай бұрын
Es freut mich sehr zu sehen, wie du im Gelände anhand meiner Karte deine Strecke gefunden hast! Und zu sehen, wie du manche meiner Routenideen umsetzt: Ich vermute, du hast kurz vor Posten 5 die kleinen gelben und weißen Flecken im dunklen Grün bewusst als Passagen genutzt. Das würde auf jeden Fall FÜR die Mühe sprechen, die hinter der Erstellung all dieser Flecken steht. Auch die einzelnen "markanten" Kiefern schienen mir für die Orientierung auf diesem Teilabschnitt hilfreich zu sein. Für mich ist es auf jeden Fall wunderschön in diesem Video mit anzusehen, wie exzellent man deinen Lauf in der Karte mitlesen kann! Danke!
@christian_rietze7 ай бұрын
Hallo Karsten, danke für dein positives Feedback zu meinem Lauf. Ich habt bei dem 24 Stunden OL alles richtig gemacht. Sogar das Wetter war trocken und nicht zu warm. Die Karte war meiner Meinung nach sehr aktuell und auch mit allen Details versehen. Die großen einzelnen Kiefern waren in den Kahlschlägen sehr gut zu erkennen. Auch die Grünbereiche haben sehr gut gepasst. Ich habe bei der Kartenaufnahme dort auch immer meine Probleme, das richtige Grün zu nehmen. Nur das Laufen war im Kahlschlag nicht so einfach und hat einige blaue Flecken gekostet. Hoffentlich wird hier in den nächsten Jahren nicht noch mehr Fläche gerodet. Eine empfehlenswerte Veranstaltung!!!!!
@karstenlehmann10447 ай бұрын
Herzlichen Dank fürs Filmen und hochladen!
@christian_rietze7 ай бұрын
Kein Problem. War ein super Event!!!
@johnrobertson75837 ай бұрын
I do not understand the concept of two different map versions on the same sheet for the same course. Can you clarify? Thanks. Also...where was your compass when you needed it to go to #1? 🤔😄
@christian_rietze7 ай бұрын
The 24 hours OL is a fun run. The first 6 courses have different themes. The upper map is the rigth map and the lower map ist the map with the them. By this rus was the theme „old vs young“. The lower map is from october 2006. It is explained realy good in the bulletin: „These courses deal with the basics for producing orienteering maps as well as with older map visualisations. The fundamentals are based on data collected by the land surveying offices (of the federal states) using the LIDAR (light detection and ranging) method, which is made available to end users and can be analysed using the OCAD software. With the help of this data, a geo-referenced and precise picture of the terrain can be obtained even before the first inspection of the area. The upper part of the themed courses sheets (in portrait format A4) contains the current map with the course to be run. The lower part of the A4 sheet shows the corresponding map base with the current course. A comparison is worthwhile, especially the TH1 ‘Digital terrain model’ can be used as an interesting training opportunity. TH2 ‘Surface model’, TH3 ‘Orthophoto’ and TH4 ‘Vegetation heights’ are unfortunately not completely up-to-date due to current forestry activities. This topic is addressed with TH5 ‘Map from 2015’ and TH6 ‘Map from 2006’. Always comply with the copyrights of the data providers when using basic data to produce orienteering maps!“ To Post 1: I thought, that I know the right direction without compass and mad at the beginning this biggest mistake.
@johnrobertson75837 ай бұрын
Do you all have this event on livelox? Thanks...I mean, danke Wow that track symbol at the last split just before #1 should not show the right route as that distinct...small mapping error...i mean really...it is no more distinct than the ride which you followed to the West...
@johnrobertson75838 ай бұрын
I do not understand the map symbol at 11:50…its not a wall or fence, and its black…so it cant be a linear thicket, which is green…
@christian_rietze7 ай бұрын
I think it should be 508 Forrest track.
@uta92068 ай бұрын
Zittau 😻 war auch dabei 🏃🏽♀️☀️👍
@uta92068 ай бұрын
Zittau 😻 war auch dabei 🏃🏽♀️🥳
@AlexUNDAlex8 ай бұрын
Hallo Christian, das hat schon was so ein Orientierungslauf, muss man sehr konzentriert laufen, auch wegen der Pflanzen, wenn man so quer durch den Wald geht. Guten Wochenstart. LG Alex und Alex
@johnrobertson75838 ай бұрын
I do not see the scale for distance between north lines…usually it spans either two, or three…
@christian_rietze8 ай бұрын
At 99% of sprint runs I don't need a compass. Therefore the north lines aren`t so important to me. If I ever need to point the map to north, I only have a handheld compass with me. A compass like this is helpful because your hands are free. I always try to fold the map so that I only see the current route up to the next 2-3 items.
@johnrobertson75838 ай бұрын
Oh no!! And the lady in red was even coming from just punching #4 at 7:05 too!!!
@christian_rietze8 ай бұрын
I was too focused on the map and then completely forgot to scan the post.
@UrbanOrienteering9 ай бұрын
Great video! New camera?? Also... chest-cam - works really well with the head torch worn separately. Good work 👏
@christian_rietze9 ай бұрын
Yes, new camera and new light with more power.
@UrbanOrienteering9 ай бұрын
We really enjoy your videos but have you done something with your Headcam? It seems to be very erratic at the moment with the video zooming in and out and quite a bit of footage with the camera pointing down. Maps are excellent though 👌 Keep up the good work!
@christian_rietze9 ай бұрын
Yes, I have some Problems with the Stabilisation. Now I have an new and better Cam. We will see it at the next Videos.
@UrbanOrienteering9 ай бұрын
Excellent 😊
@JpO3alMTkd10 ай бұрын
Hallo, ich bin gerade beim Testen von deinem Video. Beim ausführen von "Export to raster (using triangulation)" kommt nach ein paar Minuten folgende Meldung, "Process was unexpectedly terminated Execution failed after 204.38 seconds (3 minutes 24 seconds)" Hast du einen Tip, warum diese Meldung erscheint.
@christian_rietze10 ай бұрын
Hallo Gerhard, schicke mir mal ein paar Screenshots von dem Fehler an [email protected]. Vieleicht können wir dir helfen. Gruß Christian
@stephanmorgenstern187610 ай бұрын
Ganz toll und nachvollziehbar erklärt - super gemacht! Vielen Dank, Christian.
@Boss-yk2wc Жыл бұрын
The quality and editing of the video is terrible!
@gmilne13 Жыл бұрын
Hey Christian, your route choice to 1 was fine, but you didn't confirm your control description (inside corner vs outside corner) - I've noticed that you've done this a few times in sprints - I even predicted you would do it on this exact control and you did ;) something to practice - otherwise good run :) ... although you went through olive green twice ;)
@RalfZille Жыл бұрын
[EN] Sehr interessant und erste Mal in Hamburg. Ich wohne in Hamburg. Viele Orienteering in Europa aber Deutschland zu wenig und Norddeutschland gibt es nicht. Viel Spaß! 👍 [EN] Liked and first time in Hamburg of Germany. I live also in Hamburg. A lot of Orienteering in Europe (Spain, Portugal, UK, …) but Germany too few. Good luck! 👍
@gmilne13 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but there is a strange digital zoom that keeps appearing?
@affene123 Жыл бұрын
Mir gefällt es...aber...die Kamera auf die Brust zu setzen?...tut mir leid...aber die Kopfkamera ist besser...
@RalfZille Жыл бұрын
30Hz/fps is slowly! Why not 60Hz/fps for good eyes?
@Boss-yk2wc Жыл бұрын
Many "childish" mistakes. Runs poorly in azimuth.
@Boss-yk2wc Жыл бұрын
He does not know how to run along the azimuth and "get attached" to the terrain.
@fcooriesc8044 Жыл бұрын
Parabéns....muito bom
@christian_rietze Жыл бұрын
Gracias
@honorharrington9707 Жыл бұрын
Geil das muss ich auch lernen
@christian_rietze Жыл бұрын
Auf der Webseite des Deutschen Orientierungssportverbandes gibt es eine Vereinsübersicht. o-sport.de/orientierungssport/vereine Die meisten Vereine bieten auch Schnuppertraings an. Schaue einfach mal, welcher Verein in deiner Gegend ist. Ich bin OL-Trainer beim TV 1881 Altdorf e.V. Falls du in der Gegend wohnst, kannst du auch gerne bei uns zu einen Schnuppertraining kommen.
@honorharrington9707 Жыл бұрын
@@christian_rietze ja in Braunschweig gibt es 2. Ich werde mich da mal erkundigen! Danke für die Inspiration! Ich wandere bereits sehr viel und das wäre nochmal ein neues Level!
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was a good run! Only 7th, but time difference with winner/top 3 is not so big/only few minutes. So good performance, again! #5 maybe better to run straight from #4 to corner of the fence, but would not win very much time with that. #6 was well done! Were you deliberately aiming-off there?
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
I prefer to run faster on paths than straight through thicket. I think I'm faster to post 5 that way. At post 6 I run a little to the left and then run some extra meters to the right on the way to make sure I found the post.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
🥉 place, and even 🥇🏆in general classification! Congrats!! 9:25 welcome to the jungle of Götzdorf 😄. You were not the only one struggling there. Your route to 6 was really good! Almost completely straight on the line. How did you know about control 14? Because you already seemed to know it was on that wrong place.
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have already seen on the way from post 10 to 11 that post 14 is not in the right place. When the other runners came from the side when I ran towards to post 14, I thought to myself that it could be post 14.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
This was a good run in a nice terrain. Not too difficult, but 🥉, that's well done! No electronical punching, I like that. I think, if you would prepare a little more, I mean like look/plan ahead, you can still win some time. For example, running on the path to cp2, you can already decide to run back on the same path to cp3. Then you can immediately turn around and run further after punching. Same for some other controls. Every control win 5 seconds is a minute in the end (and 🥈 here or even more). But all in all, you did really well and made no real mistakes, which is most important, can be proud of yourself!
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
At the moment I am better at sprint, because I don't have much experience with the compass. Orienteering is my new sport with I started in August 2021. I think, that I don't run so bad.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
@@christian_rietze yes, you are running really well! 3rd place here is good. And I enjoy your videos!
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
Well done! This is impressive, so many controls! It must feel like orienteering heaven. But must be difficult to keep the focus and concentration for such a long time: more than 2 hours! Really needs 'Ausdauer'. Well done! Second half was for many parts like a group training: following each other and sometimes others following you. Note: winner was an hour faster than you. That's incredibly fast. Must be really good orienteer..
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a fun run. But in the end you're happy when you're done. Next year there will be 115 posts. One more every year.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
I think almost all orienteers know what it is/ know the feeling of running around for 10 minutes without knowing where you are or where to go, like you had at control 2. With GPS position on the map here in video it's all so logical and easy to recognize features and where you are, but as said, I think most of us have (had) the same now and then. Always bad when it happens, definitely when it's so early in the race. Need to be mentally strong to go on, focus again, not feel down and not trying too hard to regain lost time ( which leads to even more mistakes). You seemed to do that really well here! Rest of the race was in general quite ok/good, maybe some not optimal routechoices and little timeloss/mistake @ 20, but not too bad. So well done again!
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help. I always try to look ahead during acompetitions. I can´t change the maded mistakes.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
@@christian_rietze as I said, I think all orienteers know and recognize that. But it's also exactly what is the fun of it. Otherwise we could better do cross country running. Countless times I've also lost minutes or even 15 minutes or more with parallel mistakes/90 or 180 degree mistakes. Once I even thought my compass was broken, when I was so sure I was very close to the control, but it didn't match with the compass. So ran around like 10 minutes before I found out it was not the compass that was wrong but I myself was wrong 😄. Btw: you didn't miss 9th control here, as is in the description, did you?
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
What a nice town! Lot of elevation changes here. I've been in Wernigerode 12 years ago, think that's not too far from here, there was also a castle/Schloss there, it looks a bit like that. Yeah, mistake like that can happen, afterwards you may think, how could I have forgotten to punch, especially when you see the control in this video, but it happens sometimes. When did you find out this mistake? After finish?
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
I saw it when reading the stick at the finish.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
Not bad at all! 8th cp you correct yourself in time, so you didn't lose too much time, which is good. Overall good performance, now and then it looks a bit uncertain and you hesitate (too much), but no big mistakes.👍 Keep it up! You will get better each time, the more experience you have, the better/faster you will become. Especially when you look back/analyse your videos.
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
I will try my best, to learn orienteering with compass.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
@@christian_rietze practice makes perfect!
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
Well done! 🥉😀 Try to always keep it easy, where possible, to win some more time. Your running speed is really good! First minute of the video I thought it was like 2x speed, but it's real 😉. Part around controls 6-7-8 bit hard to follow on the map in this video, but you found them. 👍
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
I started with orienteering in August 2021 and I'm getting better from run to run.
@UrbanOrienteering2 жыл бұрын
Noticed from this video you run with map "North up", if you haven’t found out yet(?) it is much easier / better to run always keeping the map "pointing" to North, then, what you see on the map matches what you see on the ground and vice-versa. Great new channel! :)
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help and the compliment.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
Gps not very accurate in some places. Happy for you the sun came the last few minutes. Must have felt great. Nevertheless you deserve a warm shower after this run. Thanks for taking us with you again.
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
The forest was so dense and then the heavy rain. I had a very bad gps signal in places. The kammera also had some problems with the stabilization in the bad conditions.
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
What happened to 13? Just forgot it? And when did you find out? After 12 the first 50 meters you seem to go in correct direction, but then go to left (14). That weather! Soaking wet!
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
I looked at the map again after post 12. I thought that I had already passed post 13 and had to go to post 14. I was just too weak!
@peertjedepeer2 жыл бұрын
Congrats with your 1st place here! Even with few mistakes. Very tricky with all the stairs/multi-level buildings/walls and so on.
@christian_rietze2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment. The map wasn't easy with the different levels.