You’re a newbie writer. It’s your first bike and you know that those bikes like to play in the dirt.? There’s a lot of other bikes are better for riding off road!

I really appreciate this video. It's well done and honest and a good teaching moment. My only c`omment is asuggestion is to stop referring to an accident and call it a crash or an incident instead.

Great video, you've brought up some great points. We do share spaces so a good idea to be aware. On the other side of things I've noticed in my country that many cyclists especially mountain bikers has become really entitled to the space. I have got from discussions that they believe because they are exercising and don't have an engine they are entitled. Very arrogant from my point of view. Us as motorcyclists have our responsibilities just as others. I believe that having a very quiet exhaust can make it worse for others to hear you. I have followed mountain bikers go the same speed as myself and cut corners. I think it's great that you've owned up to your responsibilities I also think it's important that others need to be aware that they share the road

Good video. I had a friend almost loose his life on a back road like this getting hit head on by a drunk driver. He did loose total use of his left arm permanently. Despite the errors I almost feel that this worked out about as good as it could have considering they were also not riding on their side of the road. Had you been on the outside of the corner like you should have one or both of you could have collided and gone off the edge or just gone off the edge trying to miss one another. Seems like everyone got pretty lucky here. I'll admit that on these long rides in the middle of nowhere with little to no other traffic it's really easy to get complacent. I admire your willingness to post the video. Everything seems to have been properly handled. Props to you for trying to do the right thing.

This is one of my biggest fears. I learned my lesson years ago when I almost avoided hitting a kid while mountain biking. It is also possible to hit a wild animal rather than a human. Especially where I live, there are many nightjars resting on middle of a dirt track at night and they fly towards the headlights of the vehicle.

Very clear and concise videos with the issue explained along with the solution.

definitely should have been more cautious into the blind turn, HOWEVER, the cyclists were riding 2-across. so if you'd been on the outside, you'd have hit the guy closer to the drop and you both may have gone over the edge. at least in the actual event, you and the guy at risk were both near inside. you're not without blame here, but they shouldn't have been riding 2-across in a blind turn.

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good video. we all make mistakes riding our bikes. Every story that educates an unexperienced rider before he makes the mistake and dies...is a story that needs to get out. Just yesterday we had a call for our firebrigade (i am a volountary firefighter) for a sportster rider that passed a coloumn of cars. the cars were following a traktor with a trailer and just when the biker was on the hight of the tractor, it turned left. he crashed and died on the spot. just one of the many lessons I learned...if you pass a slow moving row of cars, do it slow and carefully. thumbs up for showing your mistake.

amazing video that might even help save lives in the future... I always tell my friend not too ride too close to me in the trails because "I might brake for no apparent reason, but it's because of other people and blind corners"

I like the honesty, and the big fact your saying your where in the wrong is pretty good personal trait. I am a motorcycle driver always wanted to diver offroad but never did, because i am to scared to damage my bike or make a realy big fall. Any tips?

I really love this Video and that he does this kind of "AFTER ACTION REPORT" and shares it!! I believe this to be really valuable! BUT, even if he said 'not to tear him a new one': MAN! Even the first few moments of footage gave me immediate anxiety on how he cut the corners! RIDICULOUS! I know the dangers of HYPE myself. And almost fell victim to it as well once on a narrow mountain road through the forest. But even then... Like THIS? Completely BLIND? Nahhh man! ... But still: Really love that he spreads awareness like this! Owning it! Like a man! And thus helping others!

Seems like the cyclists are just as much fault to me tbh, riding 2 abreast like that you would have still hit them if you were out on the right side of the road. You'd never ride a motorbike like that sat alongside your mate on a road like this, but cyclists do it all the time.

You've made big mistake here, but after consideration they shouldn't be driving side by side when they knew somebody is approaching, the engine isn't quiet. Now when I think about it, it may become problem when electric bikes become popular.

Hello, with high beam position of the bike, both leds are switched on? Thanks

This was a really thoughtful and helpful and also important video, thankyou for sharing! Honest assessment of our own mistakes is so valuable isn’t it, and important in avoiding repeats. I just had a head on crash with my best mate on our dirtbikes on the weekend, and we did a bit of a debrief assessment as well, and worked out some good plans for avoiding that again (fortunately no major injuries), but the assessment of mental state as well in this is something very helpful to add to it. Thankyou!

No one's mentioning the cyclists' responsibility, riding two abreast, basically taking up the entire road around a blind corner?

Thank you so much for sharing! You are going to be great and safe rider with this mindset :D

i mean they should have heard your bike and maybe gone to the outer side

Does it have a USB outlet to plug in your phone or tablet?

I would say the cyclist was mostly at fault, they wouldve been able to hear the motorcycle coming up but still decided to ride side by side on a blind corner. Cyclists need to be aware they're not the only ones on the trail which they often forget

Earned the sub for publishing on a difficult subject. I'm a rider of 40 years, and had my fair share of stupid mistakes. It conditions you. I'd probably not be going as fast as that off road, due to a matter of personal responsibility. I think the trend for people carrying SOS beacons expecting someone else to save them pushes caution to the wind and raises expectations in others. I've not seen a SOS recovery situation that wasn't totally avoidable. Looking forward to having a look through your channel

Bikes, cows, pickup trucks…never know what’s around that blind corner.

Your speed was too fast and obviously wrong side. The cyclist on the outside should not be there on a blind corner. A full sized vehicle could have taken them both out at that speed. I see YT dirt bikes flying thru single track and if they met someone the same speed going the other way it'd be all over. Encounters will happen on multi-use trails, always ride in control allowing anticipation.

I teach dirt bike and ATV safety classes. An important part of the course is SEE: Scan/Search, Evaluate, and Execute. This should sound familiar to street riders, and it is infinitely more important off-road. On the street, there are lots of regulatory controls like traffic lights, speed limit signs, and stripes indicating traffic paths. In the off-road environment, regulatory controls are rare. So use SEE. Scan the entire area where you are riding for critical information. If you can't see (for any number of reasons like dust, sweat in your eyes, glare from the sun, etc.), you can't gather ANY critical info, so evaluate that ANYTHING could be coming from your blind spot. The correct decision to execute is to slow way down until you have enough time and space to react. Yes, it's fun to ride briskly on roads and trails. No, it's often not a good idea. BTW, BDR's Ride Right campaign is very valuable, but with a caveat: ride to the side that matches the local 'rules of the road'. In the US, most of Europe, etc., people have been conditioned to ride on the right on the street, and their reflexes will make them tend to follow that convention off-road. In the UK, NZL, Japan, etc. local conditioning is the opposite so Ride Left is the correct answer. If you can't reflexively do that because you are a visitor, SLOW DOWN so that you conscious brain can help you with the correct behavior.

one of the reason the shifter is cheap is to bend before you bend the shifter shaft. Personally I wouldnt recommend more robust.

Cyclists probably doubled down on pedals when they heard motorcyclist who almost killed them coming back to finish the job. 🤣🤣

in australia you were in the right, they should be on the right and you should be on the left where you were

Thank you for taking the time to post this video. I am an experienced motorcycle rider with over 50 years of riding and racing. I recently started dual-sport/adventure riding offroad. I completely understand the thrill you were experiencing while thinking of the Dakar racers. Sometimes I pretend as though I'm in the Baja 1000 on a stretch of hilly, gnarly, sandy road where I live. But I will try harder to keep in mind your incident and the 4 points while riding on public roads and trails. Your video is of great value.

I'm a cylict myself but I'm wondering why is noone mentioning the way these two were going downhill? They were riding next to each other which is extremely dangerous. So if you were riding your bike correctly on the right side of the road can you imagine what would happen with the other cylist? Would he be able to steer to his right or would you drive off the road? Then the roles would have been reversed and the cylist would be the one to blame. All in all you were not the only one creating a dangerous situation here.

Something I learned when going down loose rocks.: Turn off your motor. Use your clutch as the rear brake. It saved my ass.

Me being a truck and coach driver. Will always expect a big vehicle coming around the corner. Just try that. Next time.

Pff 1st off all. You are very brave posting this. You are sooo lucky. Not just killing others. BUt also yourselves by simply crashing In The middle of nowhere. I’m already scared simply listening to your revs. You are driving too high revs. Not being able to pull your bike through the corner. You need to be able to take the corners rotating the bike over the rear at all times. It means drive lower rev where torque is higher. And use your front brake a little to feel the grip. Create more grip on the front and be able to angle the bike more until after the corner is safe to attack. The more angle helps your rear to become loose. In combination with front brake. As you wash out controllable on the front you can ad torque on the rear. Notice that the sound of the motor will be deeper / lower. Now you will be able to 2 wheel drift through corners in control. You need to relax. Loose the adrenaline. You will get it at near washouts anyway.

Even if you had been on the right side of the road, there was a cyclist there too. They cant be too mad as they were occupying the whole road coming around that turn. Fortunate nothing came of the dangerous crossing. It may have been worse had you been on the outside of the turn though...

Being a beginner rider is hard, i started on a 60cc, and after a year, I went all in onto a 450cc dirtbike. I loved the speed, but sometimes i crashed, broke the bike and got hurt or burned. The best thing i learned is to ride in the middle of the path. Sometimes, it is okay to take risks, but most times u have to think that behind that corner there is danger. At any time you can come to a sudden turn. U never know. Happy riding and stay safe❤

Don't forget: the two bicyclists can hear your motor! They took up both of the main lanes! It's not only your fault. Those guys were just as negligent.

actually fuck those guys. riding next to each other on such a narrow and dangerous road, that makes no sense. going through between them was quite a nice maneuver, but they shouldn't have had to put you in a position where it was necessary. it wasn't your fault

I had a very similar situation on tight invisible right turn, on a very long dirt road in woods. As it is a right I try to stay on the right side because a car might be driving towards me. Instead of vehicle, a cyclist was randomly stopped right in the middle of on the road, absolutely invisible from both directions, and doing something on his phone. I was going about 70 kmph on a dirtbike there and in a split second pulled to the side a bit and luckily missed him by centimeters. A car would have hit him. He most definetely could hear me approaching as the bike is quite loud and echoes throughout the woods, maybe he was on earphones listening to music... So also in your situation even if you stayed on the correct path, someone else might be doing the wrong thing.

McRider... talked about this already... "This video will DRASTICALLY improve your cornering skills!" kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqXYqmenrdCNbK8

Maybe time to learn how to drive then safely.

Yes you were stupid. But be thankful it ended without an accident and hopefully this will stick with you. We all are stupid certain times.

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Nothing to be learned here except *do not be a dumb a$$ when you first start riding.* You are *not and never will be, Toby Price, as this guy states.* Get a grip on reality before getting on a bike or maybe you will be Toby? The states keeps stats on ~everything; one stat yrs ago revealed most motorcycle *deaths occurred in the first 6 months of starting to ride a bike.* Next, you *cannot* look around at the scenery when riding a bike at any speed. Another rookie mistake.

Work on your reaction times, anticipate possible issues. 48 years of offroad, street and adventure rider. You made some really good points, and good job on video. I have been guilty of the "I think nobody else is even here" and taking "not so smart" lines. Now we have SXSs that have absolutely 0 idea of tread lightly and zero thoughts for others. Speed has many criteria, I ride a lot of mountain trails and like you, have the "oh shit if I go off on that side, I am toast" that occupies my mind and line choice. I just slow down in these areas on blind turns.. Too many times there has been a Jeep or SUV etc awaiting a head on collision. I also have a Denali SoundBomb horn on my 1190r that I tap before blind turns as well. Save the speed for areas that you wont die if you go off one side lol.

I guess I'm old enough and been riding long enough that rush felt from pushing limits is now moderated by thoughtfulness. When riding public rural places it might be cyclists, as in this case, or trucks, cars, cows, SXS, 4-wheelers, downed tree, washout, or all the other things you might come across. So don't out ride your line of vision regardless of what line you choose. Also consider that the ATV or motorcyclist coming the other way may be riding beyond his talent and wisdom. In this particular case I wonder what would have happened if you were in the outside track the other cyclist was in and how he might have acted. It wouldn't have been your fault but if he didn't react just right in time he would have hit you and send both of you off the side.

Biker's fault

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ima be honest i dont even think that's your fault, they could obviously hear a motorcycle coming in th distance, you couldn't hear them. They were on both sides of the road so if you were on the outside you would have hit the guy on the right anyways? What were you supposed to do lol. And people might say 'slow down' but do we really expect him to be going caution speeds the entire ride when it's that long?? And the fact that there's RARELY ever any bikers out there means they should be cautious when they hear a motorcycle coming for the sake of their own life. That's what I'd do at least.

Cyclists: "I hear a motorized vehicle coming! Quick! Get side by side!"

Honestly, I think that being somebody who posts on KZbin and having such an irresponsible incident makes it all the more likely bet you would have just deleted the footage and moved on. Most people would have shit their pants and then never thought about it again. I think it is really awesome that you not only went back and looked retrospectively at what happened what you could have done better where you made mistakes, but you chose to share it with the world and help all of us fight the dangers of complacency