What’s race got to do with it? And one of the best things about The Fall is the humour. This documentary is very funny at times. What about Nine Inch Nails? Iv seen Trent Reznor declare to the crowd before the music starts that this is not about having a good time. I think you just don’t like The Fall. The early 90’s my favourite part. Iv listened to tons of live shows, seen taped live shows and the crowd is bouncing so this is just bullshit. The Pogues are not so great. Irish pub band. So why aren’t they a white band? Because they sing love songs and songs about nostalgia? Also, Macgown was a zombie. So it was technically some sort of abuse. He didn’t know where he was at 90 percent of the time. Should of been in a care centre or something instead of being rolled out to sing. It’s like reality tv before reality tv.

Absolutely true, I first saw them at Eric's in Liverpool back in the late 1970's & then watched Mark embark on one of the longest suicides in rock&roll. For all his uncompromising attitude & undeniable smarts with the Fall he couldn't control the drugs & the drink. Through that it got to the stage when he lost all control & the alcohol took over. A once super smart, affable, funny & witty man turned everything into a shit show.

@@johnmichaelson9173 Please let's say a great shit show, because everything The Fall performed was still overwhelming 🙃.

@@daskleinegluck4553 I watched them many times & that's simply not true, sorry but there it is.

My favourite part early 90’s, late 90’s and early 2000’s. Even if he was in a terrible state, the music is still good and it really gives off the feeling of what was happening around that time aswell as being good rock songs. Even when they first started, he was the driving force and it feels like every album really reflects the mind states, attitudes and just the general life they where living, going on around the group. I’m not saying documentary realism or even some poem of the soul. It’s hard to explain but it’s like looking at a painting or what some films do in capturing a time and place. It is poetic. Even when it’s Smith as a piss head in his 50’s wearing shoes bought from George’s in the Asda. He doesn’t mention that in his lyrics but he still really captures whatever that life is he’s living. Even if it sounds incomprehensible or the lyrics are even more cryptic, I don’t know how but he captures those atmospheres and feelings if that makes sense. Nothing else does. Steaford Mods? Awful. They are the pretend version of something like that. Also reminds me of a new band called Fontines DC. The Fall better than them even right at the end before Smith died. Sub Lingual Tablet was an amazing album. That’s what got me into them. There is song on that album called dedication not medication and it mentions pissing the bed etc. I’m young but it’s like an electronic techno rock song talking about struggles with doctors in older age and the experience of going through something like that, but with a northern humour too it. I don’t care about any of that stuff but the song he’s built around the music is still great. It feels legit in ways other music doesn’t in terms of what it’s singing or capturing in its rhythms. That song also thanks alone. The beat, chord progressions may have been lifted from some other song but that doesn’t really matter because it’s still doing it’s own thing. That’s the only way I can describe it but every album feels like it captures something. Every one, even the ones I don’t like. There’s a whole story or tale being told on top of the music. I like Levitate and it really does that capture the atmosphere of the group falling apart. It’s all through the music. Yes, you may say I’m being pretentious and it sounds rough because of reasons like Smith being drunk but that is a legit work of art that captures something in a very authentic and sincere way. Its naked. It’s a unique thing. And it does sound great if you can get into that atmosphere. It’s like looking at a painting and really getting, feeling that thing, whatever it is, from it. You might be rolling your eyes but don’t know how else to describe it. You don’t really get this from a lot of music. The way he ended up in the end, the humour was always there, this is one of the funniest bands Iv ever listened too and it really is intentional, but he leant into it more and you could say he became self parody but I don’t think he did. Yes, a drunk. But he didn’t betray that state he was living in. This isn’t a moral thing or even some daft worship of an addict like Pete Doherty or something, all I’m saying is there was always sincere self expression right to the end. If he would of been what he was when he started or in the mid 80’s, he would of been just a different type of joke. He fulfilled his persona if that makes sense, for better or worse. He just rode it all the way. I will admit that the mid 90’s is not good. Cerebral Caustic is probably their weakest album. But that’s one album. I don’t like Light User Syndrome either or Middle Class Revolt, which I go back and forth on. The band sounds tired but again, it’s like a pure kind of self expression. The album can’t help but reflect the life experience.

That's Gross Chapel - British Grenadiers off of Bend Sinister

Absolutely my brother Amadu and Mariam are true inspiration, hope, courage and above all the symbol of Malian contemporary songs for decades. Still going on strong.