Very interesting video but I can't understand the logic of making adjustments before you set the colour profile? Until the colour profile tab is activated PhotoLab is using the default colour profile of Neutral Colour. As each colour profile introduces both colour and tonal adjustments, thus changing the histogram, I would have thought it logical to set this first?

Thanks for another great instructional video Chris. The new PL8 features are great (coming from PL6) even if non-Film-Pack-users are still missing luminosity masking. What I like about the tone picker is that if you click and hold it you can drag the cursor up and down to adjust.

Photolab needs to include multi exposure tools such as focus stacking, HDR merge, and panorama stitch.

Hi Chris. Is there any possible reason that some of my Fuji Raw images get an error?

The Fuji film simulations is not there, so not useful if you use a Fujifilm.

Lovely edit. You brought a lot of depth into the image

Do you know if the luminosity masking is included in PL8 without having to purchase the photo effects? I found it very frustrating it's not included in PL7 as I have zero interest in the photo effects. DXO Nik collection 7 has all the filters I need.

Thank you for the walk-through of your work flow. It's quite helpful.

Thank heavens and hallelujah: a PL8 video with real substance in it, as opposed to the many shallow overviews, done by others who seem to have minimal experience or understanding of the unique features of PhotoLab! I learned a lot from this, so thank you, and please do more like this.

Thank you for this nice and comprehensive video, it makes me alot easier to decide if i want to purchase it. The answer is no at the moment. I would miss the masking.

Very nice, very thorough presentation - thanks. The loupe tool, Deep Prime XD2s, and hue masking capability are powerful additions in PL 8. I can hardly wait for black friday! I'll probably start a fee trial in a couple of weeks, which would give me familiarity with the new software. A quick question: do you use the spot weighted tool in DxO Smart Lighting? I've been finding it very useful in a number of cases, particularly in dappled light images captured in forest settings. I love your mountain image and what you did with it - you live in a nice part of the planet. Cheers, Alex

Thanks for the video. when you film yourself editing I suggest you remove the other images from the lower part of the screen so we better see the edits. It is not useful for the viewer and make it much harder to appreciate what you do.

thanks for uploading these videos, they have been really helpful for me in learning how to use the DXO PL!

I just bought the Ricoh GRIIIx primarily for street photography, I have added a lens hood by Squarehood and the thumb rest. This should improve the dust resistance and grip. I also have the Olympus TG-6 and an older Canon M5 which I have had for several years. You don't have to worry about dust or weather with the TG-6 (nor water to a point) but it's only a 12MP sensor. The Canon with the available 22mm prime is a good street photography camera and more weather sealed. I primarily bought the Ricoh because of its features like snap focus in street photography. This feature might be of little or no use for your purposes but is a wonderful tool for street photography. You can't preset the focus on the Canon even with a prime lens. All in all I'm looking forward to using the Ricoh with the caveats that you have mentioned. Thank for the great videos and keep them coming.

Hello, if you are not aware of , there are richo and some other brands filter adapters. They can help avoid dust issues. Also there is another product, JJC stick on uv filter. It sticks in front of the build in shutter. Richo gr3 threaded adapter is also another option. There are videos on KZbin about them . Also covering the mic and speakers with tape helps.

Hello, thank you for your video. Klone and erase is a bit of a pain in PL, plus...I can not seem to get the outline to work. It disappears every time. Any ideas?

Answer NO for me. It’s cannot view multi folders and display all media below it. Lightroom does this and it makes browsing much easier. Bring back I view Media Pro. Not the versions Microsoft and others brought out when they purchased it and then gave up and handed it on

Is the luminosity mask only available with the film pack?

Many thanks for this video, it helps me a lot to work out what sharpening really is all about and also helps me to understand the extra value of all the software DXO has to offer. Currently I only use Photolab but after seeing this video I might consider purschasing even more software from DXO! And the undertitling also helps, I am Dutch so Englisch is not my native language! You have a clear voice, that helps!

If they made a powerfull catalog

can this be used as a LRC plug in?

Do I still need to purchase DXO Pure raw 4 if I purchase the Photolab 8? Do you know by any chance? Thanks for a great tutorial video!

Very interesting. I had never heard of 'Dehancer' before viewing here, so thank you for that!

I have pondered buying FilmPack but wonder how much more, other than combining everything in the one place, is gained in comparison to using Analogue FX and colourfx and silverefx. I'm not particularly interested in colour sims and in general the finished edit in PL for a shot in colour is perfectly fine for me.

If you're already a DxO PhotoLab user, Film Pack 7 activates additional tools in PL. Luminosity masking, and additional contrast sliders for fine contrast, and highlight, midtone, and shadow contrast.

Thanks Chris, thoughtful, reflective and thorough as usual. I always enjoy your content. For me, the integration of FP with Photolab does provide an enhanced experience compared to FP on its own, and I have achieved some interesting outcomes including with processing copies of my own original 35mm slides from the 1980s and ‘90s. I’ve taken the liberty of emailing you a before/after example. I am always stimulated by exploring the opportunities offered by taking an image as a starting point for creative experimentation in ways that enhance photographically and not simply for effect. Kirk

Very nice comparison presentation - thank you. I don't do much street or portrait photography, so I'll stick to DxO Photolab and Film Pack7 for now. I do like the idea of Dehancer as you've explained it and will probably try a free trial version in the near future. Were you using the Pro version in the video?

Thank you, I like what are you doing

If it’s going to cost £100 a year to update you might as well have adobe photoshop plan. Instead of charging they ought to update their program.

Im happy with the upgrade from 6 to 8. Hue masking is something i have desperately wanted .

The hair cut function still seems to be missing in PhotoLab.

The only thing that would impress me and have me dropping every other program for Photolab is if photolab had a AI precision masking tool, the other apps have it, but photolab is still behind in this? Why? It’s frustrating to see them focus on every other feature expect for AI masking. What’s the point of all these features if I can’t easily make a targeted selection?

Thanks! I think I will wait for Black Friday sale and finally upgrade from PL5

I am currently using Capture one mainly for sport photography . So this means processing a large number of files. The noise reduction in Capture sucks and I have to processs the export files in Topaz to make them decent. So I would like to have a more simple workflow in one tool. Can DXO 8 handle this approach ?

I just bought version 7 a few months ago. Now they want me to pay full price for version 8? I don't think so! I thought the full price covered any and all updates for the year of licensing! What a rip-off!

Thanks for the video, I enjoyed your insight. The thing that really annoys me is that the luminosity mask is only available if you buy Film Pack. I have no interest in film simulation and so I will never buy the pack but I really want the luminosity mask. I look forward to watching more of your content. Cheers.

Thanks for the update on PL8! However, I have been carefully comparing version 7 with new 8 and find it hard to justify the upgrade charge! There is very little practical difference between 7 and 8. Very hard to see Raw conversion improvements . . . need to go to 300-500% to see differences. This update should have been a "dot release" like 7.3, and offered for free, not call it 8 and try to charge $100+. The price for upgrading 7-8 should be more like $39 (agree look for Black Friday discount). I really like the DxO team but they are falling way behind their market competitors. I have been using ON1 and Luminar Neo which offers 2X the features of DxO PL . . . PL8 is really just becoming a limited specialized plug-in for Adobe:-(

after pure raw 4there are still things greyed out....lens softness/ denoise you can only move slider/

I love DxO, but I was surprised we can't mask anything out, in your photos when using the curves, it would have been nice to get some kind of masks to hide the sky when you increased the luminance value of the mountains. Thank you very much, regards from Uruguay.

I regard the s in XD2s (it has not yet been changed from XD2 in PureRAW 4, which was updated yesterday) to be an otherwise invisible argument for a premature beginners jumping at PhotoLab8. Think twice. The larger window for showing sharpness is an enormous improvement from 7, but why do the improvements have to come in small increment, when full screen has been available with PureRAW 4 for at least a year - with adjustable parameters and preview for 100 and 200 percent? The best combination between Artificial Intelligence for noise reduction and a healthy economy is DxO PureRAW 4 with the free Darktable. I finish 98 percent of my raw-images in Darktable (2 percent in Affinity Photo 2). Should I - in rare situations - get bored with the result in Darktable I try the same file in PhotoLab7 (a constant near death experience), for to this day the result has never beaten what I could accomplish with Darktable. So, unless e.g. real flexible masking has been integrated in PhotoLab8, why bother at all. It's just a money machine for DxO. Version 8 will probably still partly depend on a number of expensive plug-ins or add-ons, typically features that would be included in other raw editors. Add to that tricky policy the student responders protecting DxO's dev division - as opposed to Darktable's team of dedicated developers and users, always ready to help.

Great video! Upgraded from 6 to 8 yesterday. The only thing I miss in DOX is the supersize option

I think I’ll be passing on this one. Not enough new to justify the upgrade price again. No AI masking nor any kind of AI removal. The repair and clone tool though is the best for manually adjusting things to get a very good result in most cases. But apparently the Auto Mask still doesn’t preview what has been selected which is absurd at this point. And still no layers of any kind. The basic Selective Tone tools are still very bad in my opinion. Each slider affects WAY too much of the image with way too much overlap of the controls and things quickly fall apart. DxO needs to overhaul that area with an eye for how those controls work in Capture One (the best at those adjustments in my opinion) or Lightroom. The interface STILL has no useful customization or resize ability. I guess even that is never coming. So many of the things that I kept hoping would be addressed with each new release never happens and we just keep getting a few new watered down versions of tools that have been available in other software for years and we’re expected to pay a substantial amount for another upgrade. I just don’t see DxO suddenly catching up or getting close to Capture One, which I also use, or especially Lightroom in feature set and interface that are pulling way ahead at an accelerated rate. I’ve used DxO software for many years now and have upgraded many times since Optics Pro versions but I think, sadly, that this is it for me now. I may not need every feature that Capture One or Lightroom offers but PhotoLab just seems to be falling behind ever faster. For just a bit more than the price to upgrade I may just go with PureRAW for the lens corrections and noise reduction and possibly upgrade that only when I feel it’s worth it to do so.

Learning better post processing helps a huge amount. I moved from paint shop pro to affinity photo and that was huge. Then purchased DXO photolab for better raw development then edited tif files in affinity when needing layers. And finally learned Nik collection and started using things like dynamic contrast and colour cast correction in colour effects. Actually your videos convinced me to choose DXO over Adobe. Post processing is soooo important.

Thank you once again for this wonderful video. It was fun to watch ❤🎉❤

The only reason I keep PL7 on my machine is for lens corrections that Darktable can't handle. From the looks of things I can't see how PL8 is that big a step forward than PL7.

Thanks. I figured DxO would wait until PL8 to further enhance DeepPRIME. Have you compared XD2s with XD directly (and why does the button say "XD/XD2s"--can you choose either)? One of the things that bothers me (especially after years of upgrades to all DxO products--I have the latest iterations of everything they make, sans PureRaw, as 100% of that should be included with PL) is that, although I feel that DxO products are well worth the initial investment, they charge way too much for upgrades--punishing their loyal customers. It would be cheaper to subscribe to LR/PS (ironically, I went to DxO when Adobe started that scheme). Also, as others have mentioned, what's it going to take to get DxO to finally adopt AI masking?! Failing to incorporate that is a huge marketing blunder, especially as it's so ubiquitous now. Of course, they should also incorporate Nik into PL (as they have ViewPoint and FilmPack), but maybe that's a technological hurdle they've yet to figure out how to overcome (or is that a marketing thing?)...

Thanks for this review and demo - much appreciated. It looks like the PL8 curves tool is an improvement on the Nik7 Color Efex Levels and Curves tool as well. Now I have to decide whether to upgrade to PL8 now or wait until Black Friday. Trouble, trouble!

It is useful to remind those not familiar with DXO that they generally offer a substantial discount on their software over the weekend after "Black Friday"

Thank you for the video. Just subscribed. One question: is Nik Collection an add-on or is it included in PL8? Thanks!

thank you!!