This is so true. I am going through this . I feel handcuffed and judged and trapped.
@juliajulietsss3 ай бұрын
Que conversa maravilhosa! Obrigada por isso!
@thomasbje38434 ай бұрын
Amazing ladys. Thanks for posting.
@Articolate5 ай бұрын
not sure what's up with the sound, but it's really hard to hear
@womenchildrenfirstbookstor74765 ай бұрын
Yes, we're sorry that the sound quality is so poor. We recommend turning the captions on!
@michaelvandenheuvel3177 ай бұрын
I can personally recommend the author. His words will guide you through with great compassion and grace.
@Fiatlux20249 ай бұрын
Very interesting stuff. Im a white man, but I lost my white card a long time ago because of who I chose to be friends with, the music I listened to, who I chose to date, my refusal to accept things like white feminism and other ideas and subjects I didnt agree with... But obviously, I didn't fit in with other cultures completely because Im white. Let me tell ya, I'm not sure what it's like when you use your black card. But when you lose your white card, I swear they dam near try to kill you.... Going against the grain is not easy. It can be dangerous, but it is the future. In order for humanity to survive, we must break down these barriers. Best of luck.
@Fiatlux20249 ай бұрын
It betrays everyone!
@V-RADIO10 ай бұрын
Heather Corinna wrote an article you can still find on the Wayback machine called "Rage of Consent" calling for the normalization of sex between minors and adults. She has no business teaching anyone's children or being around them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXzCn2qCeNF9bqM
@CasualFox1249511 ай бұрын
I looked this up after Quaaman mentioned the book in this exact topic. I'm researching the specific vibes and elements of Piccolo that make him Black because I get the *exact same vibes* from the character, Karlach, from Baldur's Gate 3.
@Digital-Sparks Жыл бұрын
As a former morbidly obese person I can say 1000% the thing that helped me the most was my Medical professionals who told me the truth about the downstream cause and effects of what I ate, my being overweight, and associated health problems due to being severely overweight. I started with Physical Therapy in the pool, and after a year and a half of working out daily, coupled with changing my diet completely, I have come off of the following medications Heart Medications Atenolol Bystolic Acid Reflux Protonix Anti-Inflammatory Meloxicam Diabetic Medications Metformin Rybelsus I'm also no longer suffering from sleep apnea. My mobility is better, my head is in a much better space, I'm happier overall and instead of existing as I had for the previous 10 years while severely overweight, I am now LIVING for a change and loving life. I wasn't miserable because of "Society" or a stigmatism associated with being FAT, I was miserable because I was actually MISERABLE as a fat person suffering from all of the associated things that go with being morbidly obese. None of you are doing yourselves or others any favors by incentivizing being overweight, downplaying the cause and effect of being overweight, or normalizing being overweight because it's easier than telling the truth.
@User65411 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that obese people circlejerk constantly. They try to reassure themselves they made the right choice while dragging down anybody who cares about the quality of their life.
@keithwheeler9572 Жыл бұрын
"Promo sm" 😞
@Nico5890 Жыл бұрын
This conversation is a treasure. Thank you.
@rievans57 Жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@jacejohnson2 Жыл бұрын
Great talk!
@FuzzBob Жыл бұрын
31:20 -- NOT COOL, folks. Policing people for wanting to lose weight is a major deal-breaker when it comes to many of us signing on to this, as much as we want to end weight discrimination. Someone else's weight loss-- or gain-- should never, ever, EVER be "troubling" to you. It should be, and is, none of your business. If you "never need to hear about a weight loss journey again," I have a solution: don't go on one. We all agree, that's okay. Don't bring it up. LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE. Now, IF in the process of losing weight someone begins bullying, disparaging, or otherizing fat people, THEN that person is problematic, and we should talk about it. But if you talk of doing better, then... actually do better. Center people's behavior towards others, not their bodies. Nobody owes you thinness, and nobody owes you fatness. Get over it.
@levipierpont Жыл бұрын
No, truly, you get over it. What they said wasn’t even that harsh, I’m willing to double down. I literally don’t think anyone should be trying to lose weight, and yes, if any of my friends make comments about trying to do so, I DO bring up anti-fat bias. YOU can get over it.
@FuzzBob Жыл бұрын
@levipierpont Is it possible that your friends who are trying to lose weight are responding to, not necessarily inflicting, anti-fat bias? The idea that not losing weight is some kind of praxis makes perfect sense in a 300-level class on post-structuralism... and literally nowhere else. I gave not losing weight a 3 year shot after COVID and I can tell you firsthand, my life did not materially benefit, nor did my fellow fat friends and loved ones benefit. Nobody else gaining or losing weight had any effect on my life whatsoever, either... sorry, Fouceault. I'm losing weight now, my bottom blood pressure number is going down, my bloodwork is much better, my love life is back on track, and not once have I ever been compelled to bully a fat person. But... what's right for me isn't necessarily what's right for you. I have friends in ED recovery where getting their lives back on track involves gaining weight. Their paths are valid, my path is valid, your path is valid. I can meet you at mutual respect. Why can't you meet me there?
@deblynne9440 Жыл бұрын
At 16 minutes in when you are discussing making these decisions for 13-year-olds that will impact them for the rest of their lives, all I can think is how trans kids are being denied health care in the same system that fat kids are having these interventions forced on them whether they are ready or not. Doctors and parents can be very persuasive to a child of 13
@CelineNoyce Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of truth to the body positive movement but sadly also a lot of lies and corruption by activist factions. I wish that the movement could prune out the thing that make it less acceptable to the majority of people.
@levipierpont Жыл бұрын
Oh no, I would hate it if people trusted their own bodies too much. I’d hate it if people treated other people better and didn’t hold prejudice against each other.
@babarayhey Жыл бұрын
Wow! I’m sitting here now in tears, and I’m only halfway through this video. Joe Shactman was a friend of mine during our teenage years. We went to junior high and high school together. I have a block print Joe gave me back in 8th or 9th grade. “Smiling Man” 1 / 2 For MC (me) signed Joe Shactman. It inspires me to Google him every few years to see what became of him. I expected him to become a successful artist. Imagine my surprise to find Lilly’s book, or more specifically reviews. At first I wondered “is be the same Joe Shactman I knew.” The more I read, the more likely it seemed. Then I looked at the artwork and I was fairly certain it was Joe’s work. Then I started watching this interview. It broke my heart to find Joe died so young. Joe was such a sweet soul, and cool in a way that few recognized in our school. I was into art but Joe was an artist. I was drawing and painting and getting some recognition at the time for my art work, but I knew I was a pretender compared to Joe. I suspected he didn’t care for the commercialism of my work, but he was kind enough not to tell me that in so many words. I admired Joe's imaginative and original style. I see so much of what I remember about him in Lilly's description of him from the book. I’m glad I’m able to see his greatest creation here. I’m looking forward to reading Lilly’s book.
@desertbitch1 Жыл бұрын
I'll buy from you guys
@dianal.1279 Жыл бұрын
So good to see Aubrey! Thank you for inviting her!
@lmn977 Жыл бұрын
Ooh enjoyed this a LOT! Super clever, thoughtful people
@Articolate Жыл бұрын
TY for hosting this fantastic, freely-ranging conversation & for posting it online!
@StrongbyLee Жыл бұрын
Relevant and important topic in today's day. While Virginia and Aubrey have no issues throwing medical professionals and Big Pharma under the bus, I didn't hear anything about multi-national food corporations willingly targeting children (those who "can't make their own decisions") in the name of taste, convenience, and profit. Not to mention, there are plenty of fat people who don't want to be fat and is detrimental to their well-being, namely those in disadvantaged communities who lack access to quality food. I bet Virginia and Aubrey have no problems affording whatever food they want. They also didn't directly address sufficiently why some in the body positive movement are pursuing thinness: because they couldn't "handle the pressure of being content creators"?
@maisiegibson9478 Жыл бұрын
Strong by Lee - I definitely recommend that you listen to Aubrey's podcast 'Maintenance Phase'. Aubrey and Michael go into depth about how food inequality, food deserts, 'Big Food', etc actively promote food inequality and that the standard diet pushed on the most vulnerable in society isn't good enough. They also speak a lot about how the 'solutions' to these problems are unsustainable, and how many disadvantaged communities are practically demonised because they are not able to act in the 'right' way. E.g. A working mum with 3 jobs hasn't got time to prepare cheap, healthy food such as dried beans and grains because of the preparation that requires. For many of the most disadvantaged, choice is taken away, and both Aubrey and Michael recognise that. They also both go into more detail about how many people don't want to be fat for a variety of societal reasons and try to lose weight out of some form of pressure. However they don't comment on whether that's right or wrong, because ultimately we're all out here living in a society trying our best! This was only an hour session, so I highly recommend checking out some other material by Virginia and Aubrey to get the answers you seek.
@levipierpont Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry they didn’t say exactly what you wanted them to say?
@dietitians4teachers571 Жыл бұрын
Amazing chat! Thanks for posting the replay. I also couldn't attend live.
@PaigeWorthy Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for posting this replay! I was sad to miss it live because of a scheduling conflict. Love everything you do and happy to support you as my local feminist bookstore.
@arturniemiec75602 жыл бұрын
I can't listen to them. They are so proud of themselves, as they would achieve anything valuable or socially constructive. The only I hear is: Look at me! I wrote a book about white oppressors, without them I would die of boredom in my safe, air-conditioned reality. No matter built by the same white people I shit on. I'm so brave! Look at me! I'm a victim of non-existing problems created by my own imagination which still remind me how empty and shallow I'm without this pillow fight. Ladies kissing each other asses as they achieve anything that you can't achieve with a cup of latte in one hand, bravo! What is their next goal? Ban on the whole of Europe, as a protest against the history of that part of the planet. It's safe, surreal, and justice. That way we will keep our victimhood alive. No matter that also empty as fuck..
@oliviabwalker48452 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this book. Our book club has it this month for discussion.
@mariamartinez-lk5dt2 жыл бұрын
Nome titeresa
@babsfox21062 жыл бұрын
Watching this on my mother’s ten year deathiversary and when Ada read Open Water and got to the last line where her step mother was ten years gone......oooof.
@eprohoda2 жыл бұрын
Wome-Super.really amazing ,goodbye!,)
@jesikarabid19862 жыл бұрын
“I couldn’t contextualize why this keeps happening to me…” so freaking powerful, it’s like she just opened the sky and explained the meaning of life. 🙀 loving this!
@danielasterling6936 Жыл бұрын
AXEL KICILLOF PRESIDENTE
@leeeckhart45442 жыл бұрын
C M, almost could be one of America`s great poets, Almost . I`ll explain when I have time to pick at her sentences.
@mwu2213 жыл бұрын
Sorry to miss this live event but grateful to see it afterwards! Miss all you wonderful Chicago activists and excited to read this book!
@jmalko91523 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏 thank you for this reading!
@jmalko91523 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@jmalko91523 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Thank you.
@ohthelovelypoems3 жыл бұрын
Came here from article in L.C. and so excited to be watching this, thank you Women and Children First. Also, great news that JEB's book has been reissued and that Alison has a new one out!
@laurathestudent3183 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading and this is officially a favorite !
@sarjaniofficial36173 жыл бұрын
I Like It
@jeffreyzie3 жыл бұрын
Loved this talk. That conclusion from the book is so important
@nunyabiznys51693 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this conversation.
@sarahgonzalez97223 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting! This made my Boricua heart very happy.
@egreen46463 жыл бұрын
So wonderfull - thank you so much for provided this rich history of LESBIANS in America!
@garen37723 жыл бұрын
I miss the Magic too
@audreykohler52083 жыл бұрын
what an amazing conversation! thank you for uploading <3
@RobotProphetsMoon3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting and hosting this interview! Nnedi has been one of my top favorite authors for about 6 years now and it's a joy to get to hear both her and Tochi talk about their experiences and inspirations. I had a blast listening to this after a midnight shift on my ay home.
@austintate84183 жыл бұрын
Beautiful engagement. Thank you all involved for broadcasting
@jessybx4 жыл бұрын
El Salvador in the house!!!! Awesome discussion!
@kendram71924 жыл бұрын
Just finished this book, could not put it down. The prospect of white women becoming equal to white men and strengthening the forcefield of white supremacy is terrifying. Great to have the idea of virtue, goodness and innocence as the markers of womanhood laid out flat. Interesting to learn about the association of that idea of virtue with Middle Eastern ideas of humility in women. I definitely have taken on a virtuous identity of goodness that I am trying to shed, but had never connected that identity with my whiteness. I also have a history of aligning myself with the patriarchy and men to attain a status elevated above other (mostly white as was my cohort, but effectively all) women. Also interesting to learn about the Trans-Saharan vs Trans Atlantic slave trade and the introduction of hierarchy based on colour, and it's connection to capitalism. Very powerful book full of broad history and truths you can't ignore.
@davidmarkdannov73074 жыл бұрын
im a trans woman and would like to send my book to u.
@kendram71924 жыл бұрын
@@davidmarkdannov7307 I would love that. Are you in Australia?
@NickyM_04 жыл бұрын
@@kendram7192 Also, it's important for White women to not look at these revelations from a purely academic/theoretical view point (as that over there!) without connecting the dots as to how it plays out in the here and now, over here and my own part in it! It never ceases to amaze me how the most intellectual of White women can talk about critical race theory and feminism yet over the centuries to the present day, oppress in/directly or join forces to oppress Black Women in every day life and whilst not connecting the dots to the theories they got their academic Phd's in (presumably that involved research, to attain it!). Whilst talking about 'feminism', betraying Black women in ways that are too many to mention, including making their unique brand of oppression voiceless and them as a group invisible within feminism. Basically, practising classic racism. Oh, but even though racism exists, no-one's a racist unless they are a Member of the KKK, right?! That's the more palatable thought, to keep the delusion of 'I'm not racist' going.
@kendram71924 жыл бұрын
@@NickyM_0 100%, there's no point learning about it if we do not see our part in system and constantly reflect on what we're doing in our own lives. It can be easy to distance ourselves from the "racist" label, but racism is a process that is learned and unlearned but never complete
@AmitSingh-xp4xm2 жыл бұрын
A point to make on the feminist movement I did some research on it this is not about bashing women for I love women because I was birthed by one.However let me get on track.Historically it started ad the suffrage movement which as they say women were discriminated because of gender.But when you examine fully the concept was started by white women.This didn't include all women as was previously thought.These Caucasian women wanted to have the same rights as their men (caucasian that is).And this is where it gets interesting the black women of they were included had to join at the back of the line when they were marching.So from there you can see the racism right there.After that having talked them into this movement black women were never the beneficiaries from it at all.Even as you go down twenty,thirty forty,sixty years no improvement for black women.So black women decided to form their group womanist because the feminist movement was very deceitful.It wasn't what black women had thought all along.Imagine the KKK started by the men now white women even though they were disallowed they still continued I'm the wrongdoing and even included the Kiddies KKK for their white children.Could you imagine that.These were the same women blocking institutions from blacks entering and also had their babies in prams.You look at old photographs and you will be held in awe.