Thank you! Welcome to the channel!

Thanks for the question! Leoun is an alternate form of lyoun, the Middle English word for lion. I use the modern English equivalent throughout the video just for clarity.

Thanks for answering, i didn't know that!

Keep making awesome vids

I'm working on a similar video about Alfred. It won't be the next video but it should come out in the next few months.

@@SuttonWho-p7t Looking forward to it and to the channel's growth

tell your brother to get back to work and make me another damn video

Thanks for the comment! Generally, German artists were more likely to utilize the joint coat of arms, but it also appears in French art. For example, the illustration of the Nine Worthies at 7:45 was produced by a French workshop. Frequently they would include both symbols, but emphasize the Fleur-de-Lis half. One manuscript illustration I’ve seen shows Charlemagne holding a shield with both symbols, but wearing a surcoat with only the Fleur-de-Lis. Adrian Ailes shows a few examples of this in the essay I cited. Thanks again for the insightful question!

When you say "claim" you mean the royal lineage?

@@DeutschlandDenDeutschen1848 I was rather thinking of a sort of national symbol.

​@@Siegbert85 What is the narrative then? Both countries descend from frankish states. The french are literally called "franks" however they are not that closely related to them. The french are mostly roman colonized celts by ancestry and language. French is a romance language. For example "Charlemagne" is not the real name of the guy. It's the deep fried version of "Karolus Magnus" wich is a name and a title in latin, not in frankish. The franks were romaphile Germanics. They admired roman civilization and power as all germanic people eventually did but they didn't straight up try to be romans. As this video says Charlemagne prefered the frankish "national style" of clothing to the roman one. The frankish name of "Charles" was most likely Karl or Karlo. The German Karl der Große / Karl the Great is a much more faithful name both in terms of the sound and preserving the meaning of the title. German is a Germanic language way more related to that of the franks. And we have some knowledge about the ethnic beliefs of the franks. In a book that was written for the Grandson of Karl the Great by a diplomat and historian that knew his Grandfather it is written about the origin of the franks: Alii vero affirmant eos de Scanza insula, quae vagina gentium est, exordium habuisse, de qua Gothi et caeterae *nationes* *Theotiscae* exierunt: quod et idioma linguae eorum testatur. Est enim in eadem insula regio, quae, ut ferunt, adhuc Francia nuncupatur. Domino autem annuente de his in sequenti opere plenius enarrare cupimus. I don't have a professional translation of this but I think it says that the franks, the goths and the other "nationes Theotiscae" are said to have a common national origin (vagina gentes) on the scandanavian peninsula (wich was believed to a be an island). And it also makes a reference to language supporting this. Karl the Great wrote himself around 770: De desertoribus. Si quis adeo contumax aut superbus extiterit, ut, dimisso exercitu, absque iussio vel licentiam regis domum revertatur, et quod *nos* *Teudisca* *lingua* dicimus herisliz fecerit, ipse ut reus maiestatis vitae periculum incurrat, et res eius in fisco nostro socientur. "Teudisc" and "Theotisc" are old versions of modern "Dutch" and "deutsch". It obviously has an ethnic meaning here and doesn't mean only "not latin" as sometimes suggested. "Teudisc/Theotisc" is linked to ideas of ancestry and certain vocabulary like "herisliz" wich was so relevant at the time that it was included in latin texts. Obviously the meaning has changed a bit over the time. The dutch do not call themselves "duutsch" anymore but "nederlands". Considering that the nationes theotiscae were said to have scandinavian origin and even include the goths "teudisc" can only mean "Germanic" here, though I assume only west germanic people used this as an endonym. I am very confused by statements saying "theodiscus" had no ethnic meaning since this is from a manuscript that has to be less than 30 years apart from the original draft and not something from the 17th century after it was copied a thousand times. So I don't know why these statements seem to go completely ignored. It's Cod. Sang. 622 So I think this is good evidence to say that Karl the Great was pretty German or pretty Deutsch even. The capital of Karl's Empire were he died was also in Germany in Aachen. But the french certainly wanted to be franks more. The modern nation wich is actually the most frankish as a whole is the Netherlands. They don't seem to mind though.

@@DeutschlandDenDeutschen1848 I wouldn't say it's about ethnic identity but statehood rather. Charlemagne fits right in to a long unbroken line of Frankish kings whereas what would become Germany was largely a product of his conquests. So, while the Frankish empire would become evenly split after him in terms of Frankish statehood, the West had the longer tradition while the East got to have the imperial crown. Had the latter not been the case I doubt Charlemagne would play such a big role in Germany's rememberance culture.

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