did he do both saturations down to 60% on X & Y

I bought the Gazelle for 20 bucks on sale as my first helicopter, just to test one out. I'm having so much fun! It feels like starting DCS with a wiped brain-everything is new and different. It's such a good video, and it helped me understand this helicopter and others better as well.

Ad 29:30, I'm far from being proficient with any DCS helo, and I have the VKB stick on the desk - and I can't easily move it. I was also strongly recommended to have some support, e.g. place the stick between the legs on the chair, but this didn't work for me very well (although I felt the difference). So I found some old sweatshirt, rolled it and use it as a support in front of the desk-sitting stick. And it's a big help! Any cushion would do I guess, this was the best what I found at home. But any support makes tons of difference. Thanks for the video, the roll seems to be better with the current FM (don't know the old one), but I still applied some saturation, because the roll sensitivity is crazy. 🙂

Any update to flying this platform?

bonjour, est ce que tu peux me faire des démonstrations de vrille avec ce type d'hélicoptère ex : 3000 pieds en vitesse en chute de 8% par rapport à la valeur nominal de départ 120 noeuds et contre giration en spin sur la droite qui entraîne une vrille sur axe horizontale de gauche à droite en rajoutant un vent latéral de droite avec 4 noeuds merci beaucoup

It would be great to redo this with the new flight model

id like to see this video remade now its had a flight model rework

Very nice, thanks. Can you please add where the fuel flow filter is? Took me an hour to find on Google :)

This was incredibly helpful, thank you.

I think a lot of players have taken out most slack from their sticks, iirc the devs had a self centering stick in mind controls wise but maybe im talking shit love flying it, it's so pure compared to the apache or even the hind

Just started the dcs trial period on this helo. 9:50 talks about you have to control the helo all the time, but I found that if you just go of your joystick it just keep flying straight - as somebody said as if it is flying on rails. It feels very odd as there are no physics in place.

Gazelle is my favourite module in DCS. Such fun to fly. Very nice to hear RN pilot describing the module. Cant wait for Polychop to finally fix the cyclic.

“The cyclic doesn’t exactly behave the way you’d expect” The kind of wording that usually makes me preemptively dive under my desk…

how does NADIR estimate windspeed when you're on the ground…? surely it's done by comparing heading and airspeed with track and groundspeed

My Dad was based at Culdrose for a long time, was on 705 squadron for part of it before flying & instructing on Sea Kings. I guess it's possible he might have known Gizmo at some point. Anyway, as kids we'd go to the Air Day there a lot and back in the day there was a Gazelle display team called 'The Sharks' which was always a blast to watch. I'm enjoying trying my hand at flying one of these myself! Here's a bit of a clip of an air display I found : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaO7iWSred2Jn6s

If he sets saturation to 60% for a non extended stick, what should I set on my full size gooseneck extended stick? At 100% it is way too sensitive.

#crazyrussianpilot :-> Awesome video!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Wow. That some control setup you got. What brand is that and whats it cost. Impressed

Nice vid guys. Did you ever do an update after the updates?

It behaves unreasonable, doesn't seem the physics are modeled with respect to reality

Thanks for help to understand it, Do you also know why often my Gazelle lose control or upside down all of sudden after flying about 20mins in the air? I dont know why but some times it happens.

Hey Sly! Fantastic job! I'm happy that I found the way to your channel! Absolutely live the way and how easy you are flying the Gaz! Keep it up!

absolutely fantastic video top notch

question is were did he do his training ?

Brilliant video ✅

I may have missed it but I did not see you activate the trim switch on start up. Is it necessary to activate the trim switch?

2x speed recommended

A quality video. Insta-sub. Thank you for all the time you've spent on it.

Well I have to get back to this copter now

Brilliant video. I referenced you Gizmo in my own appraisal. FWIW, 'Golf Echo' is the initials of my mate who has 15 years experience flying the Gazelle and watching from the sidelines! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gobSmWimbd2ehqc

I've tried to get coords off PVI after locking the target like you did at the end of the lesson, but I don't get Lat/Long popping up when I hit uncage again. Locked target with laser still on, Switch to END, NAV TGT pressed, # selected, INU switch up, uncage again - nothing. ?

they should just give the gazelle a laser designator

Good grief that should have been a 5 minute video and I am still unsure about 60% on pitch and roll. Is it 60% on X, Y or both?

But the FM is still broken right? I mean it feels very aerobatic and it doesn't care if you are carrying missiles or not.

Bought the module a few days ago and on the first flight I couldnt really controll her. The UH-1 and the KA-50 are a lot more "lazy" and very different from the Gazelle. Now with Your tips the handling is much better and flying is fun and rewarding. Thanks a lot! I fell in love with the Gazelle and cant wait to dig deeper.

Great video, I've been looking into the Gazelle but my main point of hesitation is that it does look as though it has a lot of staying power due to a very limited load capacity and I'm a little uncertain of how its role actually fits into DCS and a lot of the missions encountered.

Man... wish i was flyin with...

Great Info. I tried the Gazelle (shit name), and i had heard from the community about it's handling and issues. But i didn't even get to setting curves, because i hate the sound of this chopper.

Very short. They need to fix the controls. I dont know what takes them so long, but I sure will wait with excitement. Guess 2022 would be a estimated timeframe. Should been have fixed already though..... Work harder :)

I think it is easy to fly, love that it stops very fast compared to the other helis. The only thing I do is hold a little yaw when flying else is just minor collective input to keep the altitude.

People needs to understand that what a Saturation means before starting to suggest it everywhere. A saturation is a ratio as percentage from input device to output device. Let say that one has joystick that tilts 35° in either axis. And for argument reason let's say that a real aircraft stick/cyclic tilts 35° degrees as well in any direction. Then 100% means that it is 1:1 ratio and 1° tilt in joystick means 1° tilt in real one. If one sets his saturation to 60% then it means that joystick can move to 35° angle, but it will move real stick/cyclic only 60% from its maximum tilt angle, so instead 35° it will only tilt to 21° degrees. And you have NEVER a capability to move that real stick/cyclic past that 21° to 35°. What would happen in a real aircraft if someone would come and physically limit your stick/cyclic movement range to 60% of it full movement range? You would die in the moment you are required to move that physical stick/cyclic past 60% movement range, but you can't as it is physically limited. You would never have 100% movement capability for your real stick/cyclic. Now why would a any engineer design a aircraft that will never be using more than, let's say 20-30% of its movement range in flight controls? That you need to do so tiny, so small adjustments that if you sneeze that you overdo it. No real helicopter has such sensitivity, not even R44 or R22. You constantly move very wide ranges of the controls in normal flight, you don't reach maximum but you have times when you need to give 100% of the control input to fly. Be it a full pedal, full collective, full cyclic forward or to side etc. There comes times when it is required or you die. Now if we simulate the aircraft and we make the control system so twitchy that you can't even move it with a extended stick, as same length as same real cyclic is (+/-5% accuracy in length) and you can not use even 10% of the movement range physically (from top of the stick) as in a real aircraft cyclic positions are as you flip around, it means that developers has just taken the input values from joystick wrong. Like when flying Gazelle, the cyclic doesn't move unless you wave joystick in 100% at full deflections. In real helicopter cockpit the cyclic moves a lot. We talk about 50-100 mm movement ranges to any direction, in hover, in level flights, in slight turns and so on. They cant just apply suddenly 200 mm forward cyclic as it flips things over, but that happens with 3-5 mm in virtual gazelle 3D model. And as Gazelle is so light helicopter, it should turn around instantly when that 20 mm cannon is firing. Requiring full pedal to compensate it's firing. Now there is nothing. No forces. Nothing. The 20 mm cannon far to the right can be used to fire forever and helicopter doesn't react to any of its forces at all. Same with rockets, missiles and all. The 60% saturation is just a dirty fix to get virtual gazelle in some kind control. But not a proper modeling regardless that.

Subscribed, great stuff

This is brilliant! Keep the content coming!

What an awesome nickname! :D

On my 15cm extended Warthog, I flew the Gaz at 100% sat and negative 5 curve cyclic. I love how nimble and twitchy it is. I could always put it exactly where I wanted with but a thought

Are you guys using an actual collective control or just a hotas throttle? I also feel like a having an actual long cyclic would make it easier to fingertip fly I’m the hover, etc. ?

Excellent! Thanks much. I'd love to see a full tutorial from you on Ka-50 Navigation and Datalink use...

Did they change the stick behavior on this recently? When I tried this module before it definitely did not work as a deflection or pressure side stick with center being the trim state and pressure causing a continuous rotation rate. I actually prefer this style similar to a Side Access Controller since I don't have a pole cyclic or FFB stick. This is why I use GlovePIE in EECH, Comanche Gold, and DCS's helos. Obviously that's not necessary in Janes Longbow 2, which, other than its glitches on modern systems and fact the autorotation, low RPM, and VRS (or whatever it is) doesn't work right at higher framerates, I consider the gold standard of SAC helo home sim flight models. Janes made a very smart choice using this AFCS flight law for Longbow, because hardly anyone owns pole cyclics or FFB sticks at home. I'm getting EECH very close to this now with ini changes and GlovePIE, and of course the RAH-66 and Tigre can both do this (among others) with Art Stab and auto trim pitch loads in X-Plane. I do not like the three available DCS trim stick settings. I think they should just have two choices: side stick with auto trim (currently not a choice as far as I know) or pole cyclic with no DCS trim (one of the current three options). The two joystick settings with center trimmed dead zone and manual trimmer button (one that waits for you to return to center and the other that doesn't) are idiotic options that represent no real helos and are just awkward for home sims. By the way, I've been harping on this joystick vs cyclic issue since Black Shark 1, and I'm also the guy that was lambasted on the DCS forums for claiming VR would eventually be huge for home flight simulators and beyond. Here we are, still talking about the DCS cyclic problems but not addressing the true core issue, and VR has blown up. Ignore my comments at your own peril.

Bad FM is just an excuse from guys playing every module on a rush, switching from one to another. Just play the Gazelle one week, and muscle memory will do the rest. Curves or not. This heli does not feel arcade or simplified at all. It is just not a phat ass Huey.

As a horse rider, flying the gazelle in DCS and how people treat it feels very familiar. People will be holding onto their HOTAS as if their life depended on it, getting tense and doing huge imprecise movements, ending up fighting the aircraft, just like novice horse riders will grab the reins as tight as possible and pull on them because they want to feel weight in order to feel safe. If you just relax, and use your HOTAS to indicate to the aircraft what you want to do instead of trying to force it into compliance, just like more experienced horse riders don't hold into their reins, but just slightly move them with very small movements and nearly no tension, because the more relaxed your arms are, the more precise your movements will be, and you'll feel way less like fighting the aircraft