I believe that this interview was conducted for use in the 1992 documentary “The Machine That Changed the World.” What is interesting is that only a few minutes of this interview was used in the documentary but it’s clear that the writers of the documentary were clearly influenced by Alan Kay’s characterizations of key developments. The way he explains various things is almost exactly the same as the way it is explained in the documentary.
@jrosik2 Жыл бұрын
What is the “system” mentioned at 46:31? Is it available?
@raretapes8057 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Prof. Kay. Don't know about the sister-kissing though...
@repenning12 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, what is funny about history, or perhaps we should say strange and disappointing is that you keep claiming that Etoys was inspired by Logo when AgentSheets, a system that I demoed to you at one of your Apple Hill events (which I even financially supported), is really the true predecessor of Etoys. In case you lost it here is the reference of the paper describing it "A. Repenning and J. Ambach, "Tactile programming: a unified manipulation paradigm supporting program comprehension, composition and sharing," Proceedings 1996 IEEE Symposium on Visual Languages, 1996, pp. 102-109, doi: 10.1109/VL.1996.545275." Yes, block-based programming of rich-media content... years ahead of Etoys. And AgentCubes (3D) version is used these days by kids around the globe.
@m13v2 Жыл бұрын
i understand that you are proud of your achievements and would’ve hoped for more recognition. same here. but i’ve learned something: forget it! 😁 it’s not about being first or being good. it’s about being popular. (and when kay talks about computer science being a pop culture these days i guess that he shares the sentiment.) nevertheless: the funny thing about the histories of inventions is that multiple people come up with the same ideas when the environment is right. also the wikipedia page for agentsheets lists lisp, logo and smalltalk as influences.
@repenning1 Жыл бұрын
@@m13v2 I am not completely sure what your point is. Regarding popularity: AgentSheets and now AgentCubes are clearly more popular than Etoys. While it is correct to say that Etoys, as well as AgentSheets, were inspired by Lisp, Logo, and Smalltalk none of these inspirations introduced the notion of a block or block-based language. So, if being block-based was the key novelty of Etoys then this cannot be traced back to Lisp, Logo or Smalltalk. Finally, who are you "m13v2"? Why are you hiding behind such a cryptic handle?
@m13v2 Жыл бұрын
@@repenning1 the point being that graphical programming with blocks and the degree of interactivity seen in the demo could be seen as just one detail of the dynabook's goal of creating an end user programmable system and that it doesn't matter much who had an idea but how can we push those ideas into the mainstream again instead of wresting with today's "hip" technologies like figma or react? as for "m13v2" and who i am, follow the links.
@repenning1 Жыл бұрын
@@m13v2 makes sense. But how do we do this? The dynabook HW does exist now (tablets and smartphones) but essentially nobody feels compelled in education to program them. Why did EToys fail? What needs to be done?
@m13v2 Жыл бұрын
@@repenning1 well, restricting the aim to education might be one thing to abandon. the system needs to appeal to everybody, and most importantly: just by the looks of it. because convincing people only seems to work on an emotional level, never on an rational one. the toughest part would be founding and building a community to create a system like envisioned in goldberg & kay‘s „personal dynamic media“ article from 1976. most of the other parts seem to be there these days: efficient computers and vm‘s, the idea to publish software‘s source code even in commercial settings, „clean code“ having collected some of the building blocks on how to write end user readable code, …
@jimmiejames46743 жыл бұрын
Perfect example how technology was originally intended to excel the human race but instead fast forward to today and this wonderful technology has been turned into tracking, spying devices along with psyop mind control software called social media that spreads hate, distrust and ultimately divides human beings. Ugh...growing pains.
@jimmiejames46743 жыл бұрын
Aan is a true treasure.
@nbme-answers3 жыл бұрын
14:57 ARPA 16:00 Vannevar Bush 16:40 pathfinding 28:59 early "personal" computers 48:18 books chained to desks; so too computers; computers are expensive -- they'll be valuable when we don't have to chain them to desks 49:20 illiteracy/literacy when skill can be practiced by lay people; no such thing as medicine/immedicine (il-medicine) 1:50:08 software/hardware 1:51:58 arithmetic as special case of logic gating 1:52:10 turing 1:53:25 good programs handle the organic chemistry so you can make the cake 1:57:30 "the analytical engine weaves algebraic patterns just as the jacard loom weaves patterns of silk"
@darkuncle772 жыл бұрын
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@nbme-answers3 жыл бұрын
at 01:00:00 Papert, Smalltalk kids, Piaget & Bruner ... at 01:15:00 Theatre... at 01:24:00 the first painting programme 1972 at 01:38:00 VisiCalc at 01:56:00 Ada Augusta & Babbage first programming at 02:00:00 Puppet theatre... object oriented programming at 02:05:00 Tools & Agents ... manipulation(tools), management (agents), extensions, megamachines, flexible competence(A.I.) at 02:09:00 driving forces at 02:10:00 pervasive networking... at 02:11:00 newsfeeds .... at 02:12:00 Dynabook, intimacy, world wide infrastructure... at 02:14:00 Children, Education, programming ecologies... at 02:18:00 Dewey-simulating the adult world... at 02:20:00 Computers, education and value systems... at 02:24:00 A.I. common sense, science, non-sense... at 02:30:00 virtual reality ... at 02:36:00 Book of Kells ... at 02:38:00 Civilisation, literacy ... (reformatting from user, Tim Martin)
@osman34044 жыл бұрын
I am watching this video in Jan 2021 and after Corvid19 Have shutdown the word in 2020 because we have no idea how System Dynamics work. Its AMAZIN how My Kay's presentation aged well.
@wizardatmath7 ай бұрын
Got the aids thing completely wrong though 😂
@baderbatarfi30964 жыл бұрын
MacBook Pro 13 inch 2020 Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
@baderbatarfi2534 жыл бұрын
Yes, I Got a SuperMarioLogan Black Yoshi’s Call Of Duty Special Edition
@degrooem4 жыл бұрын
Fucking incredible. Thank you for sharing!
@daledavis7684 жыл бұрын
Amazing man with amazing ideas, His hair is also up there with John McCarthy in terms of epic computer scientist do's!
@alexbuhl13165 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your efforts. Until we have perfect AI speech recreation to "rerecord" any and all talks ever given in perfect quality we need people like you.
@TimMartinDesign5 жыл бұрын
at 01:00 Papert, Smalltalk kids, Piaget & Bruner ... at 01:15 Theatre ... at 01:24 the first painting programme 1972 at 01:38 VisiCalc at 01:56 Ada Augusta & Babbage first programming at 02:00 Puppet theatre ... object oriented programming at 02:05 Tools & Agents ... manipulation(tools), management(agents), extensions, megamachines, flexible competence(A.I.) at 02:09 driving forces at 02:10 pervasive networking ... at 02:11 newsfeeds ... at 02:12 Dynabook, intimacy, world wide infrastructure ... at 02:14 Children, Education, programming ecologies ... at 02:18 Dewey - simulating the adult world ... at 02:20 Computers, education and value systems ... at 02:24 A.I. common sense, science, non-sense ... at 02:30 virtual reality ... at 02:36 Book of Kells ... at 02:38 Civilisation, literacy ...
@GurtTarctor5 жыл бұрын
Just wow.
@briandecker84036 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! Alan is a true inspiration.
@KevinBeal6 жыл бұрын
Are my headphones broken, or is the audio only coming out of my left earbud?
@gladimdim5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Beal yup only left channel works
@SimGunther4 жыл бұрын
My left ear enjoyed this talk :) Mono output for best results
@yoshikiohshima6 жыл бұрын
(Year Currently Unknown). According to my source, the date the talk was given was Oct. 22nd, 2009. (I've been also collecting Alan Kay's talks: tinlizzie.org/IA/index.php/Talks_by_Alan_Kay so thank you for doing this.)
@vendiddy8 ай бұрын
Hi! I've been trying to do some reading to learn the big ideas in computing that have not yet been realized. Do you have a reading/watch list? I've started with these talks and reading papers from VPRI.
@AmeerFazal7 жыл бұрын
Listening to Alan Kay is a great experience. He gives us wonderful and complicated ideas in a simple manner.
@FrancoisSchnell7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing those video of Alan Kay thoughts ! very interesting :)
@modestviking64417 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot for sharing this!!! For people being far away from people like Alan and surrounded by very different kind of people these interviews and thoughts of Alan Kay is like a fresh air and really enriching. Thank you very much. Having possibility to listen people like this really makes a difference and .I am really grateful to you for your efforts to make it available.