Touhou 18 - UM | Marisa Lunatic 1cc
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@thetacticianmusician6565
@thetacticianmusician6565 14 күн бұрын
GGs on the run! And thanks very much for uploading this, I was looking for reference videos on how to do Undine and this helped a lot.
@IkaraPopsicle
@IkaraPopsicle 26 күн бұрын
Wait... i'm supposed to eat up the ghosts? -me playing youmu who got to the idiot zombie
@738mos2
@738mos2 Ай бұрын
Huh, I had some sense that Youmu was strong, but I didn't know she could outdamage Yoshika's healing even on Lunatic! (I managed to capture it after 517 tries on Hard by gathering the first two volley's spirits then DPS racing the rest.) A lot of the other Youmu videos I've browsed all treated Desire Eater like it was a Survival card i.e staying on the bottom of the screen doing nothing. It made me question if it was straight up impossible to capture but as you clearly demonstrated that's simply not the case. You did amazingly well, gonna have to study this video to work on my own skills. Just a few questions if ya don't mind: Firstly, does Youmu's focus attack do more damage if you slash from the side rather than the front? Sometimes the focus attack does more/less damage and I don't know why. Secondly, according to the game it says her hitbox shrinks while in focus, but the wiki says it's bugged and it's the same size irregardless whatever state she's in. Who's telling the truth here? Thank you in advance!
@Nome287
@Nome287 Ай бұрын
@@738mos2 Youmu's focused shot (let's call it "slash" for simplicity) does damage based on distance. To put it simply, if you slash at correct distance, you will do more damage. The distance is NOT linear: you will do very little damage if you stay too close, or too far. There are sweet spot / crit spots where the slashes do massive damage, and those distances are what you want to be at. The side slash does a lot of damage in TD in particular (WBaWC nerfs the side slash by a lot), but it's still weaker than optimal spots under the boss. These things you kinda need to experiment around to get an idea, so try booting up some spellcards and test it. I made an image to demonstrate the DPS but it's on the main touhou discord. As for the hitbox, it's fake news by ZUN. Or maybe he just couldn't implement it correctly. The conclusion is "No, Youmu doesn't have smaller hitbox at any point when slashing". Lastly, if you want to optimize Youmu's DPS, you need to: - Position correctly (refer to the sweet spot distances I mentioned above) - Squeeze in some unfocus shot (you want to slash by releasing the focus button, not the shoot button) - Better timing on the slash (too late and you slash very few times, too early and you will completely miss a slash)
@AnbeePrrr
@AnbeePrrr 2 ай бұрын
Haven't play this but what shot type is more powerful? (The red?)
@Nome287
@Nome287 2 ай бұрын
@@AnbeePrrr it depends on how well you can hit the shots. - Strongest is green (wood) shotgunning, but you need to do it correctly (it can do highest dps in game) - Next is the backshot, but you need to headsit shotgun - Next is blue (water) if you can hit at least 3~4 lines - Only after that, would red (fire) comes, and the dps it does is quite mediocre. That being said, if you bottom hug and stay under boss, then it's your only option to do any ok-ish damage - We don't talk about side shot dps
@thetacticianmusician6565
@thetacticianmusician6565 14 күн бұрын
@@Nome287 I believe the backshot can do more damage than the water shot without headsit shotgun depending on how close you are to the boss, due to the damage cap and how the earth options are at different vertical positons? If you hit all 4 earth shots on the same frame, it's weaker, but in the right position, it's almost as strong as headsit shotgun. I'm not sure how large the sweetspots are, unfortunately.
@srn_ity
@srn_ity 2 ай бұрын
the last wave of RB lmao
@AFDKLJKH
@AFDKLJKH 3 ай бұрын
I love all the touhou 11 safe spots lol
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 ай бұрын
@@AFDKLJKH Yeah this game has lots of interesting safe spots. There are a few more "funny and safe-ish" spots that we have discovered recently too (examples: st3 laser when Yuugi is on screen; st5 orin mid nons). My run is old so it doesn't have these xd.
@livestreamer12340
@livestreamer12340 4 ай бұрын
what a run full of insanity, lunatic really does make normal mode a joke huh? GGS
@thesnailiad7841
@thesnailiad7841 5 ай бұрын
the books😭
@haltingearth
@haltingearth 5 ай бұрын
It looks so easy. And If you can make something look easy, it means you're insanely good at it.
@disc06
@disc06 7 ай бұрын
Working on a hard run, that is inspiring. Bravo.
@toribirb
@toribirb 9 ай бұрын
insane run. my jaw dropped when I saw you changing formations during okuu 1st spell and reading ahead at the same time. nice strats too with the formations.
@SUPERNOOB20
@SUPERNOOB20 9 ай бұрын
Dear top touhou player: I hope this comment finds you well. I find this timeout very impressive and enlightening. Thank you. GG. Cheers, ~ SUPERNOOB20
@Nome287
@Nome287 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment
@srn_ity
@srn_ity Жыл бұрын
wow, and i couldn’t even manage to turn my computer on
@357Altair
@357Altair Жыл бұрын
Superplayer
@MinusZaxis
@MinusZaxis Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@lmagus
@lmagus Жыл бұрын
The Aya fight is so unfair with that shot, she barely moves through all of it! Nice job ;D
@user-fx4dy1zw1b
@user-fx4dy1zw1b Жыл бұрын
This is such a beautiful spell to look at
@whiely
@whiely Жыл бұрын
Watching your runs fills me with hope, trying to get my first hard 1cc in MoF and I got your videos recommended and I gotta say, wow, I admire your patience and skills!
@Nome287
@Nome287 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good luck on your hard 1cc attempts too!
@appleando752
@appleando752 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a tutorial on how to swap shots with Marisa B, and I can not find it. How do I do it?
@Nome287
@Nome287 Жыл бұрын
You press your shoot and focus button at the same time to swap. So it's like, Shift+Z for default keyboard setup.
@christopherterry9665
@christopherterry9665 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful use of the 5 shots!
@Nome287
@Nome287 Жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@Linterna2401
@Linterna2401 Жыл бұрын
magnificent!
@dma-oc1wm
@dma-oc1wm Жыл бұрын
thank to this video I could no bomb this game, very appreciated
@mcl7217
@mcl7217 Жыл бұрын
Estoy haciendo clear de todos los disparos en el SA en lunatic y solo me falta Marisa B y C , busque tu run para ver algunas Strats y por dios este es el potencial de Marisa B no mucha gente logra sacarlo al 100% me encantaron tus Strats sin duda aprenderé lo esencial además skipear CAT WALK lolll simplemente gozu GG por tremenda partida
@Nome287
@Nome287 Жыл бұрын
Nota: le pedí a un amigo que tradujera tu comentario (a ingles) y mi respuesta (a español) Gracias por ver. Me alegra que te haya gustado A pesar de que las strats se vean cool y todo, por favor ten en cuenta que fueron hechas al nivel de LNN/LNB en mente. Lo que significa que cosas como el skip a Cat's Walk no es probablemente lo más optimo para un 1cc, porque estarías perdiendo 3 pedazos de vida (en el ataque azul, el ataque rojo y Cat's Walk) y aun así necesitas ser capaz de hacer timeout al ataque azul lo suficientemente bien y de forma segura para que valga la pena. De todas formas, buena suerte con tus intentos para hacer clear con esos dos últimos disparos !
@MinusZaxis
@MinusZaxis Жыл бұрын
Are you going for a lnnn?
@Nome287
@Nome287 Жыл бұрын
yeah, that's the goal I have been doing these past 3 months
@MinusZaxis
@MinusZaxis Жыл бұрын
@@Nome287 in that case, good luck!
@Nome287
@Nome287 Жыл бұрын
Thanks !!!
@deredevilgui
@deredevilgui 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. From a beginners perspective that looks nearly impossible. Nice run tho
@incerabbit
@incerabbit 2 жыл бұрын
i cant even launch the game, such impressive skills
@ubers
@ubers 2 жыл бұрын
and here i am struggling to clear easy
@facundoperalta317
@facundoperalta317 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realized how useful was Wood-type shoot sice now.
@ShiawaseNoYume
@ShiawaseNoYume 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide!
@Nome287
@Nome287 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! However, this is a very outdated strat made back when the game first came out. It's very likely that more strats have showed up now, and it would be much better to follow those instead xd.
@Schoo_Schoo
@Schoo_Schoo 2 жыл бұрын
Great clear! I've yet to 1cc any of the games on Lunatic but I hope to one day
@TeeTiro
@TeeTiro 2 жыл бұрын
run: youmu kills yokai to then cook them for yuyuko. punishment for hitting 5 am is youmu’s ghost half will be eaten
@excalaber8273
@excalaber8273 3 жыл бұрын
So THAT's how you deal with it then. Man, stop making me want to play PCB Lunatic again, I gave up that life for a reason :LeSanae: I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass it must have been to play up to stage 6 without collecting power beyond 127, like resisting the natural urge to POC and actively avoiding power items, especially for a game as long as PCB. That much routing must have been insane to plan, but if it made Marisa the natural choice then all the better. 'Grats again you fuckin' Lunatic!
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again !
@OmegaZero32
@OmegaZero32 3 жыл бұрын
Thx, still succ on this game but now i can capture this
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
XD
@Sylux0
@Sylux0 3 жыл бұрын
Gg May I ask, if there is a reason for you to not missdirect Kanako to the right on the start of the fourth spell? You can usually end it much faster by keeping her on the right for as long as possible until you do the first restream.
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! For SoR, I actually don't know the optimal way to kill it. So if that actually works better, it could have been done that way sure. I was going to change my SoR route after this cause my friend (also a MoF LNN player) recommended something like that too ... but well, I got the run by accidents anyways xd.
@xQQxAspyx
@xQQxAspyx 3 жыл бұрын
GG! wow, L4M to LNN is a HUGE jump. It's not uncommon to see players stuck at 1MNB for months especially since MoF is a game that keeps you on your toes. Not timing down Momiji is crazy. Looks like PWG and Yamato Torus gave you a pretty good RNG. How long did this take? Were you on nerves towards the end?
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !!! 4M to LNN was a very big surprise! I can probably get 2M or something if I keep resetting until a good st4 (which was actually what I was trying to do). I just happened to get godlike pwg rng. Also, Momiji speedkill is a very good strat for MarisaC, since she is the best shot at capping the waterfall spam afterward (like 90% consistency if you know how to do it). As for nervourness, I didn't have them actually. Mostly cause I got used to it with the other LNN run. But also the fact I can usually pull off perfect st5 and st6 a lot (most of my MoF LNBs were like that). As for the time spent, I have played MoF for a long time since last year, and got 4M at around 160h mark. This 4M -> LNN took around 25~30 extra hours (so I'm around 190h mark for MoF alone right now).
@xQQxAspyx
@xQQxAspyx 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Nome287 That sure is a lot of patience. I took 60-ish hours over two months or so to get NNN and I thought that was very exhausting.
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
It was more of a patience test rather than a skill test for sure. Are you planning to go up to higher difficulties? You can easily clean up lots of HNBs with low-mid misses; which can kickstart to LNBs too.
@xQQxAspyx
@xQQxAspyx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nome287 I've played some lunatic, but I never upload it because it's embarrassing. I'm not good enough for LNB. I don't have high level 2hu goals.
@RieMUisthegoaT
@RieMUisthegoaT 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing 99/99 on every spell is terrifying
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them even reached 2k attempts XD. It actually boils down to just purely practice key patterns with thprac to save time, so attempts and caps count will skyrocket. ... But yeah, LNNs requires lots of practice.
@xQQxAspyx
@xQQxAspyx 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Youmu can cap score desire eater while letting Yoshika recover HP. congrats on LNNN
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !!! And yeah Youmu is the only character who can do that, but it still requires some "calm and collected" executions.
@Momoyon
@Momoyon 3 жыл бұрын
What does that scroll do? (I think its byakuren's... Correct me if I am wrong)
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's from Byakuren. It does 2 things: Significantly increase bomb effect; reduce active cards cooldown. Also, the English patch should be out now!
@Momoyon
@Momoyon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nome287 whoa that was quick! Thanks and off i go to download the english patch~
@anon4305
@anon4305 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, the scoring is balanced for you? I did Sanae on normal without using card gimmicks and got 690mil first go lmfao. Nice run, although that cheese is OP lol.
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and nice score without cards? I don't score so unfortunately, I can't say much about that. People I know use Sakuya and Mallet to score.
@anon4305
@anon4305 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nome287 Hmm, thanks for the info. Going to go for lunatic, feels pretty easy like 16 and 17. Wonder if ZUN will ever bring back the IWBTG (chapter) gimmick or not, was certainly interesting.
@xQQxAspyx
@xQQxAspyx 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, it must be related to grudge bow timeout practice then :) anyway congrats.
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is related to grudge bow's rage mode ... although it's too hard for me to try for now. Also thanks as usual!
@excalaber8273
@excalaber8273 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the history counter, Nome's just here like "Hmm Today I will prove the continued existence of god by EXNNNing PCB" and then he just fuckin' does it like that.
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, PCB's history is actually broken. It won't save until you go to the clear / game over screen. Also, that meant I cleared this 3 times: 2M; 1M; and this.
@xQQxAspyx
@xQQxAspyx 3 жыл бұрын
Sakuya B LNB when? jk don't do it. congrats
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Also thanks!
@excalaber8273
@excalaber8273 3 жыл бұрын
Not bombing with Marisa B?! But that destroys here entire point of existing!
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
My pride as survival player is more important than her existential crisis.
@excalaber8273
@excalaber8273 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nome287 Marisa: P A I N
@excalaber8273
@excalaber8273 3 жыл бұрын
You scare me Nome holy shit
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
XD
@AwfullyFawfully
@AwfullyFawfully 3 жыл бұрын
What a legend! It’s amazing just how much you had to endure before reaching this point, I applaud your dedication
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MaknaEXMachina
@MaknaEXMachina 3 жыл бұрын
This is genius, thank you so much! I might just be able to finish my LNB thanks to this.
@Nome287
@Nome287 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, it's you! Good luck with the IN LNB again. It should be far easier than EoSD LNB imo.
@MaknaEXMachina
@MaknaEXMachina 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nome287 Yeah good to see you again!! It's going decently, I feel like I'll get there soon!