@@palazzo5875 I’d love too but unfortunately I don’t have 100kg of CPU’s

@@scouseurbanminer5106 HI thanks for replay i dont mean 100kg exact its just number lets say 1kg or 1 lb or ur knowlege with numbers how much can u get in return with pure gold from cpu thanks

@@palazzo5875 ah I see, I have no idea mate but CPUs vary massively, I could do a video when I’ve saved a stack of them up but it would be a while in the making, I have a couple of other projects on the go already

@@AT-os6nb Thanks AT, sorry if it annoyed you. Do you think it would be better if I lowered the volume down to barely audible and read the text out as narration over it?

Turn the volume down...simple.

@@Reasonist thanks Reasonist, I don’t know if the result is good or bad, first time ever paying any real attention to DDR1. I’m happy with it as a basis to look at going forward, and now I know what the minimum I should be looking at these boards for future value

Hi Gold Fever, sorry I live in Liverpool, UK. Shame cos I would like to save that gold for you. If you have an account on the Gold Refining Forum you will be able to find a local refiner who can help you out.

@@scouseurbanminer5106 Thanks for the info man!

Hi Charles, thanks for watching. I explained to another user that I have no idea what the yield should be for these chips specifically, normally I just dump RAM IC's in with other stuff that needs the same process. What comes out is what comes out. From watching other you tube video's the results vary for these chips. I do keep all my wastes in labelled containers so the filters and remains are still there. I might give it a go and see if I missed much but will have to wait a while, got a few other things on the go at the minute. p.s. Have you any idea what the going rate per kilo is for these types of IC's? Thanks

Thanks e2m i appreciate it :)

Thanks for watching theoone hahaha yeah I watch all the precious metal recovery stuff I can find too

@@tntmadness3138 thanks for watching tnt, I have no idea what the expected yield is from these. I expect that my result will be on the low end and there is some more to get so I never throw the wastes away. I save them all up labelled separately just in case. The video is more an example of what you should realistically expect. I figure if I can get that with my setup as it is then that’s a fair estimate, without spending thousands for equipment and running loads of batches to get your experience level up. I’ve read many times about a second incineration after pyrolysing the chips initially but I just went with the majority of the chips turned to fine powder just squeezing them with my fingers so I don’t know how much more burnt they could get. I agree a second incineration after milling may pay off with a higher yield but the only way I can think of for testing to check the voracity of it would be to do an even split of a large batch, by even I mean literally cutting the ram sticks in half and separating out the chips to see if there is a difference between identical batches and then refining them with lab level techniques. Could make for a good video to be fair, I might consider it for future content. In any case as I have the filtered remains I know I haven’t lost much and if there’s any there I will get it at some point, hopefully you’re right and there’s a few grams hidden away for the future. Time will tell on that. My old process used poor man’s nitric leaches to remove base metals and a side benefit of that would be the sulphuric acid would destroy the carbon similar to a wet ashing method preventing it from stealing the gold. I would have gone with that again but I’m out of sulphuric and getting it in the UK has become more difficult. I am working on a method where there is no need to burn the chips at all but rather grind them to fine powdered plastic then simply remove the plastic by sluicing. it will be a long time in the making as I have way too much stuff to get rid of first. My next video is already underway and I expect will take at least a couple of months. Thanks again for your your kind words

Thank you for your kind words and thank for watching

Thanks Patrick. I have subscribed to your channel, I will get through your video's over the next week. That's a lot of content, nice work

@scouseurbanminer5106 thank you so much .much appreciated thanks

Hi Amiraliii, thanks for watching. I always consider the saying "If it sounds to good to be true it probably is". No one would sell Pentium Pro CPU's for that price when they could easily get the gold out of the chip themselves. They are one of the easiest processors to extract the gold from but the hardest components to find. Most of the older Pentium chips have been recycled long ago and the likelihood is the ones that you see on ebay probably still work and are worth way more than the gold value as collectibles. You may come across a couple as part of scrapping old tech but the chances of someone holding a container full is very very low, and the chances they would be willing to sell it to you for a fraction of its actual value is even lower. There are many you tube video's of people refining these processors and the yields are normally around the 0.4g mark for each chip. I would refer you to the gold refining forum (GRF) where this topic has been discussed many times. I highly recommend you register for an account and have a good look through all their topics., There are some very informed people on the GRF who can help with any aspect of refining precious metals. I have seen the adverts on the sites you mention and they all look suspicious. They all use very old photo's and often repeat the same photos on different listings across different web sites. I personally would not trust the vast majority of the listings. You may get lucky and contact someone that may have some to sell but I don't think you would be able to buy them for $25 dollars per kilo when a single chip is worth approximately $30 in gold content. Hope this helps and be careful who you pass your information onto if you are considering contacting any of the users on the sites you mentioned.

​@@scouseurbanminer5106 Thank you very much for your time, all your words and reasons are completely logical, thank you for giving me your valuable time. ❤❤

​@@scouseurbanminer5106 You said in the comments that you are from Liverpool,,, I wanted to ask if you are familiar with specialized and local websites for selling waste in England,,, can you tell me some of these local websites? 🙏🙏

None that I am aware of. I get most of my stuff from word of mouth and local businesses. You have to put the work in to get the contacts I am afraid. Sale of E-Waste in the UK is regulated and you need certain licenses especially if you are looking at large scale and specific components. Most large companies won't sell back as they have already got their refiners lined up. You would need to be well established and regulated yourself before they would deal with you. Acquiring wastes is the hardest part of this and I cannot give you any of my local contacts.

@@scouseurbanminer5106 ok,,thank you

Hi Necro, thanks for watching. I agree, it's not the ideal setup for long term use and will require re-varnishing periodically. Also I figure that at some point in the future I will have to try to recover any trapped heavies from the plastic. For the amount I use it I figure if I give it a couple of coats of varnish 24 hours before every use it should be enough to keep it going for a while. Thanks for the idea of resin coating. I've been trying to find out which is best for working with PLA I might try that for version 2 once I figure out how best to use it. I'm only really using for trial and error prototyping to figure out the best set up for catching the heavies from IC chip remains. I have a lot of designs to test and PLA is cheap and easy to use for testing. Once I have the optimal number of sections/designs with the best catch rate, I will probably look at a more permanent set up, maybe even trying my hand at casting some silicon moulds from the final designs. Thanks again, appreciate the help.

Sorry Kieran, I haven’t done the refine on it yet, it’s still sat in beakers in the fume hood. When I get that done I will let you know but I couldn’t give any indication of the starting weight of the material or even what grade most of the chips where. It’s just a batch of random mixed IC’s and probably some RAM BGA’s thrown in there too

@@scouseurbanminer5106 i would have thought you could just put it in a pan to get an idea of whats in there

@@angrykieran7515 never even considered that, sorry mate, genuinely didn’t think it would be of any interest as there’s no point of reference as to the make up of what was incinerated first. I get that it would be easier to see the trapped heavies in a pan instead of the beaker. If I get a chance this weekend I will put something together

@@scouseurbanminer5106 Get a pretty good visual idea of how much material you are putting in. you also said about 1kg of incinerated IC's which i guess is integrated circuits like from ram, SD cards etc. Yeah, i think the money shot would be seeing the gold showing up in a pan or something

Hi Zxcv, thanks for watching. Sorry but I do not have any manufacturing capability to produce on a large scale for sale. Best thing I could suggest is you can use Tinkercad and make your designs yourself and get a local supplier to 3D print them for you from ETSY.com.

Thanks for d reply

Please help me sir I am indian

@@Rezplz Hi Rez, what do you need help with?

Hi Allan, thanks for watching. Sort of but it depends on the quality of the modules. Server RAM are generally much better quality and more likely to yields higher results. Also the video only took into account one gold extraction from the chip remains. This was a mistake on my part. A second extraction from the chip remains yielded a further 1.1g taking the final result closer to 7 grams. From reviewing forums and watching many hours of video's on BGA RAM typical yields vary between 0.7g/kg and 1.0g/kg. The 1.0g per kilo is probably a reasonable estimate of the yield from a decent sample of branded boards. I left the result in the video as that was what I achieved on that occasion. It was only after speaking to other youtubers a few weeks after this was published that I decided to re-run the chip remains. I would treat this video as the minimum you should expect from typical BGA style RAM. Assuming you got mostly branded RAM and you can achieve 85% yield that's approx 0.85g/kg. Multiplied by 1000 (Metric tonne) is 850g AU. Current Spot is $74,584 USD x 0.85 = $54,000 USD. Also remember that if you have that quantity it is well worth going after the all the other metals which would probably yield a minimum of an extra 10% return. All that said, DDR2/3/4 RAM currently sells on Ebay for £35-40 per kilo ($44-50 USD). It would be much better to just sell the lot and take what you can get for it then buy some gold and silver and hang onto it for few years or sell up when you think there is a decent profit. No messing with chemicals and no waste to deal with. Hope this helps and thanks again.

HI Jason, thanks for watching. I got mine from Amazon but that was 2 years ago. The cheapest I can find at the minute are on on ebay.

hahaha yeah its quicker to dry the powder out too rather than trying to chip it off the bottom of a glass beaker

Hi Charlie, hahaha the original fans lasted about a month, first one packed in after 8 hours but it was right behind a batch of approx 1.6kg of RAM BGA's in HCL on full heat. It took the brunt of the damage and didn't really have much chance of survival. The final one of the set gave up the ghost after about 6 weeks, but I didn't actually do that much refining. My own fault really for leaving solutions in the hood while the fans where not switched on. I reinstalled a second batch and kept the fans running for longer periods and got a good bit longer out of them but they too gave up. The fume hood is too bulky and weighs too much to keep pulling it out and swapping them all out. I eventually swapped them all out for a car radiator fan sealed to the framework which so far has lasted about 4 months but I tend to leave this on very low just to keep some air being pulled through. Works off the same speed controller but has a turn on voltage a lot higher than PC fans so if I power it down I have to remember to increase the motor speed to max to get it started, once its running I can lower it down to about 25% speed. The whole thing is still a work in progress :) If you can come up with a way of fast swapping PC fans out, then you might as well use them before they go the scrap yard. I am thinking of using them to make a wind wall. I would like to mount this behind me where I work so it continually blows air past me toward the hood and minimises any fumes coming my way when the doors are open and I am stood in front of it. Probably wont work but I might give it a go. Cant think of any other uses for them. If I had to build another one I would definitely go for lighter building materials, maybe even just sheets of decent grade plastic secured together with angle iron nuts and bolts. Make it as movable as possible so I can get round the back to swap things out easier. On the plus side the fridge compressor is still going strong. I am very surprised at that.

@scouseurbanminer5106 ooh yeah, thanks for the insights! I have loads of plexiglass and acrylic to consider. They are cut offs, but pallets of great stuff, some over an inch thick and large enough peices to make coffee tables. I bet I have enough opaque white panels to make the main chamber. It is maybe twice as thick as that (perspex?) you have, so it wouldn't likely need as much skeletal support like the pallet wood. I had been thinking about keeping a single strong blower fan out of the fumes path. Blow into a y shape behind hood and use the suction to pull out the fumes. Thanks for the update and info. 👍

Do it Charlie, make a video as you go, record everything. Use tinkercad to make a basic 3D design. If you have not used 3d modelling before this is the easiest program. I use it all the time as its made for kids in school, which is about my level of CAD abilities hahahaa. I would go with putting the fan either on the top or one of the sides. Having it at the back is more awkward for swapping it out, unless you have the space that is. I dont, I live in a large house but have a very small back yard. Putting the fans at the back was a mistake for me. You need easy access to it as it will be the most changed thing. Like I said I'd go with as light as possible in weight. Doesn't need to hold much weight, just a decent base and a simple light framework for the rest. I will definitely go that route in a few years when it comes time to rebuild. Plexi would be ideal if you have enough. I've subscribed to you channel :) I want to see the build :)

Also look into a venturi set up for your exhaust. Alledgedly this is what the long time hobby refiners do.. There is info on the gold refining forum about it. Might be worth planning this into the build before you even put anything together. Hope this helps mate

@scouseurbanminer5106 ooh thanks. Tinkercad oh boy... I havn't tried this. I might see the end of my down time if I start. 😂 Spent high-school on an array of autodesk products. CAD mostly and 3dsmax. Thanks for the ideas. I have room to add instead of replace. I might convert my current jury rigged fume hood into a spot for electrolysis. With some crystals growing, there could be some good videos. I have been putting off making a new channel for fefining, but I do plan to soon. Deciding how I want to go. I have too many hobbies like Mike from omegageek 😂

Hi CC, thanks for watching, That crossed my mind when I thought about a better basket, I love the idea, if I come across a better basket that might just happen. The burners do have enough wiggle room but I was thinking of adding a third at the back to deal with any material that falls through, totally dealt with in one go. Gotta love you tube comments for the help and ideas that people come up with, thanks Charlie

@scouseurbanminer5106 Great seeing custom builds. There was one other thing... I bet you could attach some stainless mesh easily with a flap that hangs over inside to cover those slits that they are falling through. Thanks for showing!

:) Good idea, I think im resigned to re-working the cage completely based on what we said earlier, I like the idea of being able to use it as a sort of starter ball mill to get things moving. I will do an update at some point but got a few things on the go at the minute so will use it as is for now and work around the issues. I'm always on here looking at people making stuff, inspires me but then I find another vid and decide to watch that instead of cracking on :). If you like custom builds check out my fume hood video's, sorry for the total length of them but I put them together in parts so you don't have to sit through them in one go. Each one has the same layout as this build with a 3d model showing that particular part. I also recommend you check out Robert Murray Smith (Thinking and tinkering), the channel is superb. He mostly does energy efficiency stuff, homemade wind turbines etc, he's like the A-Team but on his own. Definitely worth a subscription to his channel.

@scouseurbanminer5106 ooh excellent. Haha, yes, that sounds very familiar. Having to go back and incinerate again after crushing is something I would like to condense into one, so this looks like a promising build to base off. Thanks for the suggestions! A cylinder cutting jig came to mind when I watched... I actually think it may have been one of Murray's videos 😂

lol Craig :) Yeah but it was emptied and rinsed out months ago. Good advice for anyone thinking of ever cutting a gas bottle open though, thanks

Thanks Bou

Thanks for watching Stormlight absolutely agree, I will still do the campfire method when the weather is nice, this is made mainly for winter in the UK where I can just set and forget.

Thanks for watching hahaha yeah the neighbours wouldn't like that at all hahahaha I'd love to have 300lb's, nice :) I know boardsort pay $25/lb, to me that's £55 GBP per kilo. I'd sell the lot to them and just buy some gold and silver with the funds, keep some of the funds for a little weekend away somewhere with the family and still have a long term investment at the end. Good luck with whatever you decide there metal Thanks again

Hi Phil, thanks for watching, yeah its called a sheet metal sheer from vevor. Here is a link uk.vevor.com/plate-shear-c_10810/8-203-2mm-manual-hand-shear-steel-metal-plate-shear-cutting-solid-long-handle-p_010589800419

@@scouseurbanminer5106 thank you! Keep up the great vids :)

Hi, thanks for watching. Apparently there is a difference, how big I cannot say for sure but a guy in the comments reckons 9.9g is the target for DDR2/3/4. I can't see it myself I think that might be a little high based on other you tubers results but he is a proper refinery and deals with tonnes of ewaste a month. Best advice is to get whatever you can for your RAM, always host the lot so that it finishes around 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night wherever you are in the world. I've found most bids on my lots tend to be in the mid-late evenings but the best sales nearly always happen on Friday/Saturday late evening. In reality it should sell for a little less than the gold content but I've seen a lot of listing going for way more, others for a bargain. I only buy when it looks like a bargain but these are hard to come across. Hobbyists tend to pay a bit more if the lot is big enough (minimum 2 kilo's unshielded is all I really look at) but then I wont go overboard. I don't mind making small losses as I stack any gold I get as a savings account. A lot of the RAM I get from week to week is from scrapping myself. This video was only to see if it is possible to make a profit from actually buying it. It is if you can fine tune the process and get upwards of 90% of the gold but its fine margins for amateurs like me. In this video I reckon I only got around 70% of the expected gold, but since then, I reworked the chip concentrates and got an additional 1.1g taking the total up to 7g (approx) around the 80-84% mark of what the big youtubers get (I still think there is more in there but I don't throw the remains away, I stockpile all the chip remains and when I get to 10 kilo's of dried remains I might put a video together to see if I missed anything. Proper refiners get all the metals present so they will obviously make more in the end, its why the likes of boardsort pay what they pay, but to be honest I think you make more selling it to hobbyists on ebay. Most sellers sell by weight regardless of the type, I think some of them dont understand that there is a difference, or they do and they just take whatever they get. I don't bother splitting it when selling it but depends how much I have on hand, sometimes I stockpile them, sometimes I process them, sometimes I sell it, really depends on personal finance at the time and whatever else I got going on. DDR1 boards are heavier than DDR2/3/4 as the older IC chips are thicker and all have metal legs. As the boards are heavier they are generally less gold content by weight so might be worthwhile throwing a few sticks DDR1 in a small batch of DDR2/3/4 to get rid of them and bump up the weight, but to be fair, some people pay way over the odds and would just buy it regardless of type. It's difficult to say how a specific lot will do but if you ask any refiner's they would probably agree that selling it then buying gold with the profits is the quickest easiest way to get your gold and doesn't involve messing with the acids or waste. This video isn't really a good guide for experienced refiners, this is a more realistic gold content for newer people, like me, hence the logo :). Anyone who has been doing this a while and has the right chemicals/equipment will likely get 15% more yield first go round. My process has already changed a fair bit since this video but for day to day stuff that I process I don't keep as close an eye on the yields as I should. I'm half way through a couple of video's at the minute, one of which is 10KG DDR1 (534 Boards) only as a comparison to this one, so might be worthwhile checking that out. I depopulated all the boards yesterday so they're nearly ready for refining. Based on other video's I am expecting anywhere between 3.6g and 4.5g, anything less than 3.5g, I would say I have missed some, anything more than 4.5g it's probably not pure and needs refining, that said, you never know really until you do it and hope it all goes well. I am hoping to host the video in the next couple of weeks but that depends on weather, work and family commitments. Cross you fingers for me it's better than expected but I'll be happy with anything over 3g.

Hi Hascrack, thanks for watching. Yeah I was a bit disappointed and expected a bit more. If you read some other comments I did get an extra bit from the remains (I keep all the remains for additional extractions in case I miss something, in this case I did). When working the remains from this video I noticed an immediate steady reaction to sulphuric acid and sodium nitrate, hinting that there was still a fair amount of metals still present. It yielded a bit more gold (1.1g) but not enough to warrant reworking the video. I decided to leave the video as it was, as that was my result at the time. My main mistake was making assumptions. I should have hit the remains with at least another couple of extractions. Ah well lesson learned on this one. I cant speak to the gold in server rams but I am lead to believe that they do yield a fair bit more than desktop. If you get a decent supply of server ram put a video together. I'd be interested in seeing a yield.. Thanks again

@@scouseurbanminer5106 I definitely need to on my next batch... I usually wait until I have somewhere between 10-20kg to do one. I have a pretty steady supply from work (I work in a datacenter and get all of the ram from old servers that are going to be recycled anyway) so I've been lucky enough to start with terrible yields and work my way up without it costing me any more than the lower net profit from wasted chemicals. I know my method isn't the most time efficient but I use a small muffle furnace to heat the chips to 600c with a constant airflow to ash them and pull the silicon dies out before crushing the results to eliminate most of the heavy materials from what I'm washing. The chips still have a small amount of gold stuck to them but when I get enough I run them separately. I've found it helps with reducing how much is left after the panning step. I also distill my own nitric acid so when I do use it, I can avoid using significant excess like when sodium nitrate and sulphuric is used. Definitely need to make a video myself since I've found the way I do things somewhere in between the ideal way that most videos show and the really haphazard ways others show (closest I've seen is probably yours). I've put it off for awhile but since I recently picked up a solid camera (Sony A6300) I don't really have any excuses now. Edit: I think the part that most people miss is that you're going to make mistakes when you start and you're probably going to throw out some gold. The losses reduce as you do more and learn but it's rare to see people who are in between just starting and experts.

Nice, I'm looking forward to the video, I like to see all the possible ways people do the process so I can try different approaches and see what works best for the equipment I have. Best thing you can buy is a retractable tripod, doesn't need to be anything special, mine cost £5 and holds my phone in both landscape and portrait, that's all you really need. Be extra careful with the decent camera, i only use my proper camera when the battery on the phone runs out :). For a starter get used to using Windows Movie Maker, its nothing fancy, very easy to work with and produces full HD video with minimal effort, the effects are very limited but its a handy system for free. I have changed my process a bit since that video was recorded. I don't use the furnace or the blue bowl anymore (Well I may still use the blue bowl for very large batches) but the clean up sluice is the way to go, way faster than the blue bowl but speed isn't really something that bothers me, i just fancied mixing it up for the next video so decided to build myself a small sluice. I will put the video up of how I done that at some point too (TOO many video's to work on, not enough time). I also do three PMN extractions on the chips before they see any AR. Will be releasing another 10kg video in the next month or so (time and weather permitting) with some different equipment so you can see if I have made any progress :) Still stuck with the cement mixer for a ball mill though, not forking out the money for an actual ball mill unless I start to get more than 10kg's a month coming in. That's something for the future. Yeah I know I will lose some gold (Well not lose it exactly, just haven't got it all yet as nothing gets thrown away:). I'm not bothered about making mistakes, gives people a chance to speak to me and point me in the right direction. Also best way to learn is to make mistakes. I find most of the vids on YT are either too long, too short or just wrong, in particular the vids where they through AR with huge excesses of nitric at their material, its fun to watch but there's no way I could do that here, for a start Nitric is a controlled substance and I cant buy it, and even if I could its way to expensive. I do have a distillation rig but even possessing nitric over 3% is a no-no. I will be trying to keep any future vids to around the 20 mins mark without losing too much of the process. I also intend to actually speak on some upcoming video's so if you catch them you will understand why I am hesitant too speak on my others. I'm from Liverpool, UK, we have a unique accent so will have to be conscious to use my best telephone voice :) Get started on your video, i've subscribed so I get notification. Happy to give your vid a load of full run's through to get your count up

Thanks for watching. I do continue to refine but its winter in the UK and it rains almost everyday so I have only done a few very small batches, also I have been doing a couple of building projects in the home (Built an office for working from home and a couple of redecorations of bedrooms so time has been limited). I have been stockpiling some e-waste to make a couple more long video's with yield calculations and costings. I will start back up again as soon as the weather picks up.

@@scouseurbanminer5106 I look forward to your work. Also, how can I find the website of the gold refining forum you subscribe to? Where can I find Hoke’s books?

goldrefiningforum.com/ here is a link to the gold refining forum. It's well worth registering an account, they have the answer to everything you can think of. They do require that you keep to the forum rules, and they expect you do your homework first before posting, but they will help you if you get stuck. goldrefiningforum.com/threads/printer-friendly-copy-of-hokes-book.17706/ Here is a link to a screen copy of hokes book. You will need to register an account on GRF to access the PDF file, but if you just register an account and introduce yourself in the newbies section one of the admins will respond to you and provide you with the basic stuff. Hope this helps.

I love it :) but for material that fine I find I have to run it through a few times cos a fair amount of heavies do get through, maybe I'm too impatient to get the good stuff and should run it much slower first time hahaha

Where can I get a blue bowl from?

Thanks :)

Hi Al, its a sheet metal sheer (Basically a guillotine). I got this from vevor, here is a link for one on ebay... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394348489190?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749387&toolid=20006&customid=GB_14339_394348489190.141453821974~1871493063064-g_Cj0KCQiA1rSsBhDHARIsANB4EJZ7aG8blvKBCHBIN_6WFmKw3oL3E_Tr6DQX5qza4WQp_qwhpBd-D5kaAooFEALw_wcB

Thanks for watching Joe and the feedback Sounds like a nice setup you got there :) You should put a video together of your rig Yeah next step for me is to get a better motor system.

@@scouseurbanminer5106 Works like a champ. Turn it on and walk off. No stirring chips around trying to get them burned all the way. they need air to burn to total ash. The setup allows all the chips to get plenty of air as they burn. The ash falls off exposing more to the air, it burns and so on. Nice clean ash with all the gold in it lying in the pan. I thought of it years ago and wanted to use a cement mixer. Decided to go small.

Sorry for late reply Joe, only just seen this, my YT doesn't prompt me when someone replies, need to check all the settings on this, only just come across this now. Defo put a video together for us all to watch, I'd be interested in giving it a go, I like the building part of a project more than the actual refining. I have started an incinerator video but haven't got round to finishing it yet, weather has been awful and work takes up most of my time. I will see about incorporating a rotisserie into the incinerator, once it finished and have ran a few test runs.

@@scouseurbanminer5106You sound like me, I enjoy the creative part. What about this or that? How can I try it? How do I build it? Then my head goes crazy. I will say this is the first hobby I ever got into that makes me money and it has nothing to do with the money. Just the enjoyment. Sitting down picking through electronics. Modifiing tools to do things they were never intended to do

Yeah Joe, exactly the same, I've always loved taking things apart (Except Laptops, I've started to hate them things hahaha) but I also like putting things back together... DIY and home improvements etc, in the two houses I've lived since I grew up I've built a full loft conversion and a complete kitchen rebuild, taking the old kitchen out was the best bit though, got the big guns out for that and stripped it right back to the brick, covered in dust and mess, happy days :) I agree this is a hobby that does bring in more than it costs once you have forked out for the initial refining gear but like any hobby there's always something else you "need". But this is way cheaper than my other hobby, I play golf and I'm a full 7 day member of a club. That is expensive and gold recovery comes no-where near the cost for that.

I can but it will be a while, I have a couple of projects on the go at the minute, best video for eco goldex is omegageek64, he explains the full thing and how to circulate the waters so minimises wastes

@@scouseurbanminer5106 That sounds like a solution to a problem. You are British, right? Have you found a decent source for that stuff in Europe? On ebay the price is prohibitive so I think about mixing it together according to the MSDS composition.

Sorry for late reply, went for a night out with the lads, got a serious hangover right now. Yeah I'm from Liverpool. Can't source it in the UK unless you pay way over the odds. The stuff itself isn't the expensive part, its the shipping. It would be nice if they had a European distribution centre. I had to accept that to get some I would need to pay a lot for shipping so I took the hit just to try it.

Thanks for watching Jack and for the suggestions :) I will take these on board. I was hoping for a bit more initially. Yeah some video's I've watched do overstate what's there, I assume its either they have selected really good RAM where they know they have good gold or it's for clickbait views. I agree it is better financially to sell the RAM but I stack any gold I get until the spot price spikes. I will get rid when there's a bit more profit to be had, but I am not really in it for the money, I look at it as a hobby/savings/retirement account :) I did get an extra bit the other day. I was having a bit of a clean up and based on the comments in this video I decided to re-run the BGA dust through a second and third extraction as I was sure there must be something there. I keep all the wastes labelled separately so I can go back and review if needed. I was surprised at how much reaction I was getting from the sulphuric acid and sodium nitrate (Cant buy proper nitric acid here so have to make do). It just kept producing fumes and the colour continued to change so I realised I had missed something. The amount of copper going into solution was very surprising and if there's copper still there there must be gold. Eventually ended up with around an extra 1.1 grams of very dirty gold which I think is still less than what I should have got but I will take it. It wasn't enough to warrant re-doing the video and I didn't bother videoing any of it, was curious more than anything to see if I had missed something. Going forward I will do that process you mention with the whole sticks, for any odd bits of RAM that I get. Only problem with that process for a large batch is it doesn't make for a good video hahaha Can't see many people watching a 15 minute time lapse of bubbles then a 5 minute segment of cleaning up, although as a video in its own right it might be something in the future to show a normal process. When I get large batches I prefer to use the rotisserie kiln to remove the chips first so I can be working on them while the etchant does the work on the boards. I always re-use the etchant but for the purpose of this video as it was a yield based I decided to start fresh so there was no contamination and people can see what is involved. The etchant used in this video has since merged into the normal bucket with the rest. Thanks again for the comments, I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me.

@@scouseurbanminer5106 Great! Maybe you can add the extra 1,1g as a textover at the weighing chapter. Keeping information coherent with updates is always nice. I have the same idea about it. Nice to have as a hobby. If it pays off, great. If it doesn't, who cares? I think it could make sense to get a bit more into chemistry. Like distilling off nitric acid from H2SO4 and Nitrates. Recovering the acids (and metals) from leach solutions once you have loads of it. The channel "nurdrage" has a good collection of step by step instructions. Another hint: You can dissolve all base metals with the help of HCl, although it is not the HCl itself that dissolves copper. HCl and oxidizer together with copper make some CuCl. You might need some H2O2 to jumpstart, but low concentration is okay for that. That CuCl is then further oxidized to CuCl2, when HCl and oxygen is available. And now THIS CuCl2 is the etchant that dissolves all base metals. This is why starting with just HCl is so slow. You first have to make the active ingredient With some time you can get rid of all the base metals consuming only HCl (That can be recovered => NurdRage). This way you only need tiny amounts of nitric acid that you can produce with the method mentioned above.

@@scouseurbanminer5106 Another thing: You mentioned an eco goldex process in another video. Do you plan on making a video on that?

Hi Jack, I was thinking of amending the video too add on the extra bit but I figure that's what I got so best to be honest about it. I made a mistake assuming the first extraction would get the majority of metals out. I hold my hands up it was a beginners mistake and I should have chased after it once I got the initial weigh in and went back and recorded the extra bit too add it in but in all honesty I had no frame of reference as to what I should expect from these. Having spoken to a few people since I realise that its definately on the very low end of expectations but I still class myself as a beginner so for anyone starting out this is a realistic expectation. I'm sure that over time I will refine the process to get the vast majority. I love Nurdrage's channel :) There isn't much I can do with the eco goldex that Omegageek64 hasn't already covered. I used his guidance to get mine up and running. Check out his video's on this process, start with the earliest one then move up to the upscaled versions, they are long but well explained and well worth a watch, give him a like and subscribe if you haven't already. That's the process I follow. I only mention the eco goldex as it will form part of the HDD video I am in the process of making. I came across a boot full of desktop hard drives some guy wanted rid of, he only wanted 5p each for them :) Bit his hand off, haven't even gone after the gold yet and already more than quadrupled my initial purchase cost just in scrap alluminium, took me 4 weeks just to scrap them all out and separate all the parts. That video is at the point of incineration of IC's, the eco goldex will be on the circuit boards, ribbons, and connectors. I'm not there yet but I will cover it a little in that video. Still a long way to go on it though, weather in the UK is a major factor.

Thanks for watching, i have to admit it took longer than I thought it would doing the editing. Yeah I expected a bit more to be fair, I was hoping for around the 8g mark so it was a bit dissapointing but for a first full video Im happy with the finished product, gives me a template for future video's once I get more gear and improve my process. I've also noticed a couple of mistakes particularly with the amount of extractions on the chips. Im sure there is more there but I have all the wastes to re-process once I have a pile worth going after. As a new hobbyist with a very basic set up and no access to nitric acid, I can't hope to get the same results as others who have been doing this for years but I will get there. Just curious, what would you think the expected yield should be from 10kg of evenly mixed DDR2/3/4 RAM? So I know what to aim for next time. Thanks again Edited at 17:52 GMT - WOW your channel is superb, nice work, I got a lot of your video's to go through, happy days. I wonder why KZbin has never recommended your channel to me, All I watch is gold and silver recovery video's. I've subscribed to make sure I get any new content. Keep up the good work, I love it.

@@scouseurbanminer5106 I have been working in the urban mining business in Korea for a long time. And my channel is not a channel that provides information on gold content. It is a channel that explains why electronic scrap contains a lot of gold or the characteristics of items with a lot of gold.

In Korea, the gold content of mixed memory is traded at an average price of about 900 ppm.

Thanks. I'm trying to get through your video's and I can follow along with the video content but I cant read the Korean subtitles. As an idea to get you a wider audience, when you create the content can you do your normal video in Korean for your regular followers but then release an extra video with the same content and provide an English subtitle translation. It does not have to be perfect English translation, Google translate is good enough for us to understand the meaning. I think you would get a lot more views and subscribers. Still loving the video's and impressed with your setup. I will get there one day :)

Hi Maarten, yeah its still worth doing even if you have to pay something for the RAM. EBAY prices are way too high for scrap value, but if you can get them cheap enough and in large enough quantities it's worth the effort. I do it for both a hobby and a savings account assuming gold will increase in value over time. A lot of the RAM I process from month to month is either free from other scrapping sources or very low cost. If I spot a bargain on ebay I will of course try to snipe it :) I made this video purely to see if paying the average ebay prices can be profitable given my existing setup. Im confident that with a more efficient process and the patience to wait for the right listings i think you could make a profit but it would not be very much. You definately need good sources for your scrap to make a business out of this.

Hi, thanks for your comment, I haven't tried to order any nitric, I got weaker sulphuric acid instead (Before the recent change in legislation), it just takes longer to work. I just assume that anywhere that stocks high strength nitric will be regulated.

I love using the blue bowl, makes it feel like there is some actual mining practices being used and it makes for a good segment on a video :)

Where can I get a blue bowl from? Cheers

Yeah I try to keep a spreadsheet up to date with the differences from various batches so over time I have built up a decent average of what to expect from each batch. To be honest I was expecting a little more gold from that video, but then when I sat and thought about it, just on 2/3 of the boards where DDR3/DDR4, I have noticed a drop in yields the newer the boards. I'm pretty confident a random batch of 10kg of solely DDR2 would yield more than the same weight of DDR3 or 4. I haven't got that many DDR4 on hand to do a side by side, maybe I should start saving them up for a future project :)

Hi, thanks for watching. As far as I know when SMB is added to the solution it is converted to sulphur dioxide gas. It's the Sulphur dioxide gas that drops the gold out of the solution. Any excess is normally dissolved into solution, provided the solution is not saturated. If you have excess SMB after dropping your gold, and you still have SMB powder at the bottom just add water and stir for a minute or two and it should dissolve into solution.

Thanks, it's been finished for a couple of months now, took me ages to put all these vids together, and I've had some spills which have ruined the laminate 🤣

Hi, thanks for watching. Google did not translate your comment very well but I understand what you mean. Can you share a link to the video please, I would be interested to see their process. Thanks again

Thank you Sahin ❤ I plan to make more videos in the same format detailing other gold recovery from pc parts with full costings and yields, as well as devices you can build to make the process cheap and easy for the amateur refiners out there. Thanks again 😊

Thanks Tammy ❤ more videos in the same format to follow, don't want to post my next idea on here just YET in case someone beats me to it 😂 but if you've seen Cody's vids you probably have an idea of my next big project with RAM 😊 as well as the upcoming one on HDD's, thanks for the support x ❤ p.s. sorry I only replied now, something is wrong my settings I didn't get any notifications that comments had been made on this video. Look's like I will have to go back to watching the video to view any other comments. Golf is so expensive, my membership to my home course is £1700 per year, double that for lost balls, new gear and playing other venue's with my mates 🤑

Thanks for watching. Any ideas which could improve my process I'm always happy to hear. Although I like using the blue bowl there are more efficient ways to get the gold out. Have a plan for a future video on that. I'm still working on the process to streamline it, need proper nitric acid which is hard to get in the UK. Got a good way to go yet. My next video will be making my fume hood. Plenty more mistakes to watch there but I have edited out all the swearing after hitting myself with the hammer a few times :) Thanks again

Where did you get the blue bowl from?