I've seen track in the creek while fishing. I think around mile post 263 but not certain. Pretty cool non the less. Thanks again for sharing.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88537 күн бұрын
That's a great find! Someone over on the Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum posted some photos of a bit of track he found in the creek as well.
@TheHollyHobo8 күн бұрын
Thanks from Germany, when I visited colorado I also tried to explore parts of the former Colorado and Southern route, but I didn't have that much time... So thank you for doing this for me. Andreas
@elizavetamixailova38488 күн бұрын
Good job!
@RioGrandeMan-c5r9 күн бұрын
Wow It’s really cool to see more of the C&S Especially since it’s hard to find information thanks for sharing
@XxXGhostXxX4179 күн бұрын
thank you
@galaxieman19649 күн бұрын
Love these C&S vids. :)
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88539 күн бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoy them.
@noelle26449 күн бұрын
Honestly it's actually really cool seeing the old photos compared to what it looks like now
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88539 күн бұрын
Thanks! I'll make a railfan out of you yet.
@noelle26449 күн бұрын
The bridge outside of tunnel five looks fire
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88539 күн бұрын
You crack me up 🙃
@steveshepard9430Ай бұрын
Hope to be able to visit this place… some day.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
It is an amazing place to see, though, it takes a bit of work to get there.
@retlasmАй бұрын
Hello Kurt. Is there a way to email you a question? Really enjoy your videos. Thanks
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
Are you on the ngdiscussion forum or the C&Sng Forum (c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/) by chance?
@retlasmАй бұрын
@@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 No. When I hit the link you sent it said file not found. What I want to discuss with you or any Colorado rail fan something you all might find interesting. I have a relative who was the engineer that was killed in a train wreck in 1905 on the line from Blackhawk to Forks creek near Cottonwood. His name was William "Billy" Allen. He was my mothers great uncle. He is buried in the Golden cemetery. I think it would be interesting to find out a bit more information about the wreck. I will try and find those forums you mentioned. Thanks for the reply
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
@@retlasm Sorry about that link. It doesn't work for me either when I click it. I found it does work if I paste it into the search bar, though.
@XxXGhostXxX417Ай бұрын
What happend to the Gondola?
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
It was temporarily sent to Como, Colorado for a very thorough restoration. It looks fantastic now. One of my other videos shows the process of the move: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXqZfpWLeNadj5o.
@mikesharp5548Ай бұрын
A few volunteers fixed the spark arrestor this summer
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
Glad to hear that. Thanks for sharing. Out of curiosity, does the casino do any of the maintenance work?
@mikesharp5548Ай бұрын
@@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 No they do not. The engine is owned by the city. We working through them to get permission for the work, and might do some of the other upkeep in the future.
@marklewis298Ай бұрын
Thanks Kurt for the close-up mini tour. What a shame #71 just sits there, along with coach #20, just wasting/weathering away. MAYBE one day they will get the proper mechanical and cosmetic restorations they both deserve....and can find a place to operate on.
@kyletrummel69Ай бұрын
It burned in 1906? How does a stone building catch fire?
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
Good question. The same thing happened to the stone engine house atop Boreas Pass. Basically all the wood elements burned-doors, roof, rafters, beams, decking etc. The walls were still standing at the end, but it was just a shell.
@markeinhorn1230Ай бұрын
I noticed there is another engine #71 in the parking lot of Colorado Central Station/Lady Luck casino. Which one is the real #71?
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
The real one is the one in this video outside the Grand Z Casino. The other one is a Mexican or Central American locomotive.
@galaxieman1964Ай бұрын
Would be great to see it run again. Another fun rail outing. Always great info.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
There have been a number of attempts over the years to resurrect No. 71. One is still working on it, but I haven't heard of any more progress at present.
@markthomas6436Ай бұрын
I saw her just you show here, in late September, 2022. Later visiting Como, I thought it would be great if she could be acquired by the Como project to operate on home rails once again. Maybe if a replica could be fabricated the casino would give her up? I have an HOn3 model of her.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853Ай бұрын
It would be amazing to see 71 in Como, I agree. Central City was very upset in 1986 when the Colorado Historical Society moved the engine to the Georgetown Loop. Central City residents blocked the tender from moving and it wasn't long before the engine was purchased back. This led to the short revival of the engine in another tourist pike out of Central City from 1987-1989. Several casinos later vied for the engine with many pricey plans for her upkeep. I don't think the town or casino would be keen on letting her go, but who knows?
@Stooltoad50172 ай бұрын
I bare good news! There has been an update on the Colorado Central website! They’ve acquired a number of 3 foot gauge rolling stock as well as diesel locomotive they plan to restore. They updated the blog In August of this year.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
It is exciting news. You can see some of the equipment also in my What is Going on at Central City video. It will be interesting to see what comes of it all.
@marklewis2982 ай бұрын
Kurt...Your video explorations of the DSP&P and C&S routes and areas in general are ALWAYS of interest! Especially when your family or a family member accompanies you on your explorations. I and so many others are thankful for your sharing.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for that encouragement. I'm glad others get as much of a kick out of seeing these old abandoned grades as I do! It is a joy to share these videos and it is always fun having my family along for the adventures.
@TheHollyHobo2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, so you a lucky father to have a daughter that does this railroad stuff with you.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
Thanks. It is a joy that my family joins in the railroad adventures.
@1bryanh12 ай бұрын
Any progress with this railroad?
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
Not that I am aware of. Their website (centralcityrailroad.com) posted new stuff several months ago, but I haven't heard of anything concrete occurring.
@billtimmons70712 ай бұрын
I RR spike would have been a nice find and confirmation that these are RR ties. I wonder when line was abandoned if they recovered as much metal (spikes) for scrap, to get as much scrap value they could?
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
I had hoped to find a spike too. I met a local who lived nearby for decades. He used to have a bucket-full of spikes that he found in the area. Over the years, they were slowly carted off by visitors. I've never found one anywhere around the area. The stretch in this video was abandoned in 1934.
@sophiasbagels41552 ай бұрын
Beautiful filming! ✨ Hope to film like that one day :D
@adamsfly62122 ай бұрын
This video depicts what I enjoy doing and that is trying to locate and follow these old railroad beds. I recently retired and moved to Montrose Colorado and there is so much narrow gauge history around here that I'm in heaven. Just a short walk from my house is a portion of the bed of D&RGW. I also plan on doing more research and exploring of the DSP&P as that is not too far from where I live. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Also, it's nice to see the young generation, your daughter, at least appears to have some interest too.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
We were just out in Colorado this past May and planned a visit to Montrose but due to a bridge being out we never were able to do it. On the other hand it gave us more time to poke around the DSP&P. We stayed just outside of Ohio City. Such gorgeous country. I too love locating and following old RR grades. Oddly, I find it even more fun than seeing active railroads sometimes. I haven't quite turned my daughters into train fans yet, but they have learned to enjoy it with me. My 13 year old, in the video, is always up for adventuring with me.
@IowaTrainGay2 ай бұрын
Always love seeing where the DSP&P went. Thank you for researching and finding so much of it!
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@michaelsmiley152 ай бұрын
Something to remember the original route would not follow telephone lines they would be telegraph lines for using morce code The telephone system was introduced after the alpine tunnel was closed Not that I hate the locomotive effects I like this better
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88532 ай бұрын
Good point. It crossed my mind as I said it when recording but I never went back to fix it. I'm glad you liked the narration. I've been trying that more lately.
@flfun16843 ай бұрын
A train ride on the old C&S that everyone wish they could ride modern times
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88533 ай бұрын
So true!
@flfun16843 ай бұрын
What needs to happen is a group of investors to bring in funds to make this railroad viable again
@galaxieman19643 ай бұрын
Always look forward to your vids. Thanks
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88533 ай бұрын
I'm glad! Thanks
@sumedhadematanpitiarachchi44113 ай бұрын
So lovely
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88533 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@sumedhadematanpitiarachchi44113 ай бұрын
@@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 I wish I can visit there too.. Lovely video.
@TheHollyHobo3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! It`s like being there . I Have tried that on google maps but this is far better.
@freshpaint1003 ай бұрын
My wife and I rode this in 1987 i believe . I remember it ended somewhere behind the first casino they built. It was short but fun. I have pictures up in the attic. Ill dig them up and post any interesting ones for you. I know i have some of the engine running.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88533 ай бұрын
Those would be great to see. I always run across the same few when I do a google search and it would be neat to see something different.
@TheHollyHobo4 ай бұрын
Thank you for creating this video, it makes me feel like being back in Colorado!
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88534 ай бұрын
Me too!
@hughwolfe11764 ай бұрын
It’s still there if you know what to look for… Thank you for producing these videos, preserving history, and sharing.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88534 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoy them. They're a joy for me to make.
@IowaTrainGay4 ай бұрын
Wow! So many hints are still there!
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88534 ай бұрын
It's hard to trace the grade in lots of places between Parlin and Pitkin (mainly due to ranches that seem to have plowed it flat), but the telephone lines are the telltale sign of where it was.
@Two_Bears4 ай бұрын
Wow neat! A friend of ours owns that motel at Parlins. Her name is Diane. She was big help in cleaning out our apt in Gunnison at the Assembly of God Church.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88534 ай бұрын
Very cool! Did she put up the sign with John 3:16-17 on it?
@Two_Bears4 ай бұрын
She probably did. It was not up there when we moved out of Gunnison for Missouri four years ago. She is a prayer warrior so I could expect that. That general store, where the post office resides in, was not open for business then as well. She also is the postmaster for what few people that are left.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88534 ай бұрын
@@Two_Bears It's cool to see God is at work even in out-of-the-way places like Parlin.
@wskinn4 ай бұрын
Hyce would know. He is a railroader, railroad preservationist, railroad historian, and he's local to this location. Ya out there, Hyce?
@fordson514 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I drove up this grade back in 2020 in my F250. Only made it as far as the top of the Sherrod loop, because the trail was closed passed there to vehicles. Hiked the mile along the Palisade to get to the West Portal. Really incredible place to see in person.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88534 ай бұрын
The good news is that a several-year long repair job is almost done and access to the West Portal by vehicles will soon be reopened.
@TheHollyHobo5 ай бұрын
You did a great job again, last year I drove thru Ohio City, but now I know about the former C&S railroad facilities. I think, I will build a model of that loadingplattform for my garden layout. Thank you for sharing. Andreas
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
Great idea! Someone on a South Park forum told me that the section house and bunkhouse are still there. I didn't know it when I visited, but it would be neat to see.
@c3dmf4s5 ай бұрын
I have loved and studied this area since I was a kid. We could be brothers! Excellent stuff. Love the matched then and now pics.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
Ha! Nice to meet you, brother! :) I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@jgrahamiii77495 ай бұрын
Gunnison was my stomping grounds for nearly 4 years and in that time, I explored much of the DSP&P right of way, as well as that of the Rio Grande. I have been to Alpine Tunnel on both sides of the divide several times and can only imagine what a passenger on that line would have thought seeing the 'sights'. Once I found half of a discarded "glad hand" air hose connector and of course a few forgotten spikes. Other than that, the books I bought remind me of those excursions, as well as these excellent videos. Thanks again for your work in preserving the history of the South Park. I have mentioned this reference book before but if anyone is seriously interested in eyewitness history of the South Park and the Gunnison railroading, acquire a copy of "Little Engines and Big Men" by Gilbert Lathrop. It is history told as if through the eyes of the author's father who was a railroad man for much of his adult life in the Gunnison country.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
I need to get a copy of that book!
@jgrahamiii77495 ай бұрын
@@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 I have at least two of them.... there is a companion volume titled "Rio Grande Glory Days" by the same author. Do you have a website?
@jgrahamiii77495 ай бұрын
@@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 eBay has them periodically. I found both of mine at estate sales..
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
@@jgrahamiii7749 I looked up the book on amazon and ebay and it wasn't available anywhere unfortunately.
@jgrahamiii77495 ай бұрын
@@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 if you set a "saved search" on eBay, they do come up every so often.
@hughwolfe11765 ай бұрын
I love “seeing” the past in our present day… Unfortunately there are those that have no respect for what came before and tend towards destroying historical evidence… Thank you for preserving the past and sharing what you find.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@markthomas64365 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your "then and now" comparisons. It's a way for us fans to connect with the railroad. 😊
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
Thanks! I love then and now stuff too. It's always neat to think that I was standing (somewhat) close to where another photographer stood a long time ago.
@adamsfly62125 ай бұрын
The RGW and especially the RGS get so much attention it's nice to see someone providing information on the C&S (DSP&P). Don't get me wrong I love the history of all narrow gauge lines but growing up in southwest Denver, Morrison for 34 years, the C&S felt like my home railroad. Over the years I have driven, hiked, and explored the ROW of this railroad. I now live on the western slope of Colorado and plan to do the same on this side. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
I completely agree! I enjoy the D&RGW and RGS too, but my heart is with the C&S. I'm glad the others get a lot of attention, but I always enjoy it when the C&S gets some recognition too. On forums like the Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum (which is great!) it's hard to get much interest in C&S-related posts, with the exception of stuff related to the Alpine Tunnel.
@rockymountianelkwoods45715 ай бұрын
Great stuff! We share the same passion for C&S and D,S,P & P RR. We have a place in Pitkin on State St which is the old ROW. I started a Facebook group called Pitkin: Then and Now a few months back and love trying to match up historical locations when I have time. Keep up the great work.
@paulp15305 ай бұрын
Great job at doing all of your research as usual. I drove that route 20 years ago, so I drove through Ohio City on my way to Pitkin to check out some real estate. It was one of my favorite Colorado trips. No I didn't buy anything, Damn!
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
Ha! Some of Ohio City is dumpy, but some looks quite nice. Up one road there was some very nice homes. We stayed at an airbnb cabin (basically a house) about 5 minutes out of town.
@diggingthewest79815 ай бұрын
I'll have to make a video short with a few of my rail road relics or at least what I have left. I spent a lot of time along the transcontinental, but still looking for another C&S padlock, sold one a few years back.
@diggingthewest79815 ай бұрын
Back in the early 90's in a crevice,I found part of a hobnail boot and a rubber hose with a small red C&S stamped on it. Very familiar with all the CC canyon stations, as I've been to and searched most of them with a detector. Shame to see that stupid path and citified areas in the canyon, lost its charm.
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau88535 ай бұрын
What a great find! I know I can't have everything I want, but if they are going to build a walking path I wish they would at least put up a few historical signs to at least honor what was there before and help educate others on the history of the railroad.
@diggingthewest79815 ай бұрын
@searchingforthecsnarrowgau8853 They could care less about history and its piss poor (sorry). They're more interested in appeasing to the new wave of transplants. They've removed a few of the stone walls as well. There's a few spots where sections of tracks are still in the creek. Might still be a section over by Beaver Brook. The same thing was basically done at Golden Gate City at the G.G. canyon entrance. Hurried up and built over the historic ghost town before anyone could stop it. I grew up. Close to Clear Creek Canyon, I spent a lifetime in that canyon.There isn't a whole lot of people that know it better than I do, if you ever need any help Just holler. Great page, subbed!