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@Ivootjes 2 күн бұрын
I played this game to death. Love it. Some additional hints/feedback: Your info about what you earn isn't exactly correct. The 10-3 doesn't cost you 10. It costs 13 because 1 time is exactly 1 money in this game. Calculate it always like thatI The 7x7 is only important at a very high level. First learn the two phases of the game: 1. Generate optimal income early 2 Switch to filling the board as effective as possible Generating income is paying as little money for the buttons that are on the patch. Prevent buying pieces without buttons as much as possible in phase 1. The 0 3 piece is clearly best. It costs 3 and has 1 button. But the 7 6 can also be a great opening piece because you pay 13 money for 3 buttons that's average 4,33 per button. The lowest in the entire game after the 0-3! But if you get it a bit later, let's say after the 3rd payment you will miss out on 3 payments which is 9 so these 3 button pieces lose value quick. Another example: The 7 4 with 2 buttons is 5,5 money per button and that's just worse than most pieces with buttons on them so in general I avoid this piece in the income phase unless no better options are available. Filling the board is the second phase and usually means buying stuff with 1 or 2 time steps as much as possible. The key is to switch from income generation to efficient filling as late as possible. Of course it depends what pieces have been bought already, but a general rule of thumb is per 1 time you can fill 2 squares during the filling phase. So if you have 30 time and 50 empty squares you should still focus on income, as you are in the income phase. But with 20 time remaining and 40 empty squares you should switch to filling or you will end up with lots of minus points for empty squares. When I started playing on boardgamearena I focused on this principle, learning when to switch and made it to 500 elo (expert level) without practically ever getting the 7x7. It's easily possible to run away with 30-40 points difference against people that don't understand this well. I just played a little tournament with 15 participants that weren't very good, but not terrible either. I won all 14 games and averaged 35 points win margin per game (502 point win margin over all games). Yes, I probably got the 7x7 in most of those games too, I don't remember. Just saying that more than 80% of the point difference I made came from buying the correct pieces, not by puzzling the 7x7 as fast as possible. If you want to become master level on boardgamearena (700+ elo) you should start to focus on the 7x7. But the 1x1 patches are maybe even more crucial as getting them all 5 means getting 10 points that your opponent didn't. A 20 point swing, even more than 14 points. Positioning on the time track is very important to get those. But that's a topic on itself. Good video otherwise, plenty helpful stuff in there to get to the 300-500 "strong" player range on BGA. Maybe reviewing some games between high and low rated players would make it more easily understandable. Why do they make what move? Can we identify clear mistakes?
@MostVictoryPoints 7 күн бұрын
I had the best time at WSBG 2024, all the way from Australia! Very friendly community, great sportsmanship and competitive spirit. So nice to meet a bunch of Americans but also many people from other countries too!
@trbjrnjnssn 12 күн бұрын
Perfect video.
@claireshillabeer9001 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Still probably going to het beat on my first game 😂
@eckowezen 15 күн бұрын
Bad video or rather bad title. No advice, no tip, no secret was given here. Simply 20 mins of anecdotes and nothing of real value to a 7 wonder aficionado
@IceMav92 15 күн бұрын
i have been playing splendor for quite some time and have grown to love the game. I just found out about WSBG yesterday and wonder how would i fare against good players. is there anyway to play online with pro players?
@WSBGofficial 10 күн бұрын
We're looking into partnering with BGA to have a designated WSBG training zone, but the best way is to come and try your skills. Our winner this year (Malinda) only purchased a single ring entry to Splendor and ended up winning the Ring, so anyone can go on a run! You can also check out our website for upcoming conventions with official WSBG events/tournaments. Hope to see you in September :)
@johnrochester1419 18 күн бұрын
Hmm. Watching this now. I actually think I might disagree with the first rule because I use mine like crazy and I often win but I seriously use them like crazy . I guess I play this game kind of aggressively. I have certain tiles. I absolutely know that I want and I make sure to try to get them if I can.
@artbyjero 24 күн бұрын
About to play acquire with the boys thanks bro you a saint 🙏🙏
@kaytee8716 26 күн бұрын
Great to see board game scene becoming more competitive. Some games deserve to be taken seriously for competition !
@Mundungu 27 күн бұрын
Is there any info on the Adepticon events? I don't see anything WSBG related on their schedule.
@WSBGofficial 27 күн бұрын
We're firming up the details, but there should be a mini tournament where you can win tickets to WSBG. Keep your eyes peeled :)
@WSBGofficial 27 күн бұрын
Here's the link to Ark Nova - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqeaqKKOlL6ln68si=3EvZdh_LoXWna8uY
@Venryk1 29 күн бұрын
Great update! Can't wait for the White Castle final to be up, so I can criticize my play (hopefully improve for next year's ring event).
@L3FTLUNG Ай бұрын
Wish I watched this vid before I spun out 😢
@L3FTLUNG Ай бұрын
I wish I could SUPER like this vid!!!
@sajuro81419 Ай бұрын
is there somewhere to watch the 2024 ark nova finals?
@WSBGofficial 29 күн бұрын
It's in the works, I shall post an update as soon as it's done, being worked on by the channel No Wonders, but just coordinating with Mathias Wigge to get him on board for commentary.
@therecogniser2122 Ай бұрын
- Play bird is not efficient at round 3-4, instead of laying egg or tucking engine. - Don't end the game with food - When to play birds for additional bonus cards - Prioritize powers different from your current row - Get your engine going quickly
@terenaschoenberger Ай бұрын
I love this game but there are many time I don't even score...
@FakeApologize Ай бұрын
I've watched a few Wingspan videos and I'm not fluent in nerdspeak and need a translator. Everyone speaks about an engine like you're supposed to know what the fuck that is. I guess if you've grown up in your mom's basement playing dnd your whole life you know what that is. Can I get a non virgin translation?
@espio1653 Ай бұрын
I can sympathize with where you're coming from but there's no need to be so rude about it. Terms like "engine" are extremely common in games as a whole. There's nothing "virgin" about it, it's just a helpful shorthand. In the context of Wingspan, your engine means a row of birds with strong brown powers that you intend to get numerous activations of over the course of the game. For example, a "tuck engine" is typically a row of birds on the bottom "Draw Bird Cards" row that have powers involving tucking cards from your hand to generate points. It is usually wise to focus on one or maybe two strong engine rows, rather than having a weaker engine in all three rows.
@goodtelly6314 19 күн бұрын
I’m super new to gaming, like just started this week, but for me the word engine means something that you put in place in a game and once it’s added it becomes an “engine” that just repeats itself over and over. Like pistons in a motor, once they get added into the engine, all they do is go back and forth for forever but that single action is powerful enough to propel cars around the world. So an engine in Wingspan is something that is put in place (a card) with an instruction that’s gonna get repeated over and over all game. The more powerful the engine, the more it produces each time. Since Wingspan is all about getting points, you want to add engines/cards that crank out points. Wingspan is about finding the best combinations that generates the most points.
@FakeApologize 19 күн бұрын
@@goodtelly6314 Sorry. My bad man. I'm just a guy that touches grass. you're a guy describing a reciprocating engine. There's direct drive engines, rotary engines, steam engines, I could go on and on. I guess when you make shit up with all of your virgin friends it makes sense to you.
@MostVictoryPoints Ай бұрын
Ooh looking forward to the No Wonders and Mathias Wigge collab for Ark Nova!!
@WSBGofficial Ай бұрын
Us too! It's going to be great :)
@Tygerwulff Ай бұрын
Tres at Empire Board Game Library here, and we are very much looking forward to running our Road to The World Series of Board Gaming again. It would be very cool if it caught on at other local stores around the country as well! Good luck to everyone trying to win their way to Vegas!
@therecogniser2122 2 ай бұрын
Tips 5 is a bit off, the level 1 card which require 2-1 is crucial to build your level 3 card, however the level 2 card 2-3-3 or 2-2-3 with 1 point is literally trash, cost a lot of resource with only 1 point.
@IceMav92 15 күн бұрын
you seem quite good at the game. Where do you usually play to get better?
@therecogniser2122 2 ай бұрын
This is amazing, I won a tournament in HCM city last month and the atmosphere is the same, I fully understand the level 1 card hold of the champion which makes him a pretty resource advantage very early in the game. It is very fun to watch, thank you.
@WSBGofficial Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Maybe we'll see you in 2025 ;)
@znail4675 2 ай бұрын
Interesting that they found Tachion's to be the strongest faction when it's usually considered among the weakest ones, but it's easy to play.
@lukec1146 2 ай бұрын
Great advice but saying "dollars " is sacrilegious!!
@raulcadena2911 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Fantastic tournment. 100% fun! Such great games to compete and to play for fun in the open gaming. Hope to see you all in 2025.
@ChristiMilligan 3 ай бұрын
So I'm guessing no girls enter the tournaments with a male ring like that as the reward.
@WSBGofficial 2 ай бұрын
You'd be incorrect, our grand champion in 2023 is a woman named Angela Tao, and we have two different championship bracelets. You should also check out the rings for this past year in 2024, our jeweller wanted to make them a bit more slim, which design you might like more. Guess we'll see you in 2025 to compete :) Nothing stopping you now ;)
@gavinweidner1332 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad I got a number of plays under my belt before watching this most of this information was things I was already doing while playing it's just helped cement a lot of the ideas I had as well as providing a bit of context but it was nice to sort of figure out the game (at least the broad strokes) on my own
@spaceman_256 3 ай бұрын
Wheres the link to the commentated final????
@piotrek7628 3 ай бұрын
Move fast 1st delivery always to Cansas Prioritize speed upgrade on black disks, on white disks income and cards Buildings and placements matter Specialize in hiring Las Vegas 😸
@russellbyrd 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips! Everyone is saying how important to get up two steps on the Conservation track, but no one says which of the choices is better! Sure, you could say "it depends", but isn't there one of them that is usually better?! I would think it's getting one more association worker?
@Jonatan-y6m 3 ай бұрын
Great question! It is almost always correct to go for the card upgrade. Some of the top players will at times go for the worker when the break is expected to last a bit longer and it is crucial to take snapping as the reward. But such cases are rare and difficult to determine, so the safest bet is to go for the upgrade. However, it is important to try different approaches for the sake of learning. Hopefully this provides some clarity. (For reference, this is coming from someone with hundreds and hundreds of games played on board game arena with a 75% win rate and who frequently watches high level gameplay)
@chrislinnmusic 3 ай бұрын
@@Jonatan-y6m Thank you so much for your extensive reply! Pretty odd that this hasn't been addressed before (well, at least on the teaching videos that I have watched...). About the card upgrade: That is interesting because people have quite different opinions about that. Since "Build" seems to come at least in second place I will go for that when in doubt. :)
@MostVictoryPoints 3 ай бұрын
Great vid Chris! It was nice to meet you at WSBG. Totally agree with your closing comments about how great this community is! I’m also glad to see the footage of all the Ring Winners doing their green screen posing, it’s so good haha!
@GaminUpWithTheJoneses 3 ай бұрын
100% our favorite con. The competition was way harder this year than last year. I think a lot of people prepared more. Can’t wait for 2025
@MostVictoryPoints 3 ай бұрын
It was indeed very tough competition! Can’t compare since it was my first year, but I was expecting that going in.
@JonTripp115 3 ай бұрын
Congratulations to Joon Kim-perium! $25k buys a lot of boxer shorts.
@Ashlovzu 3 ай бұрын
Is/did anyone stream the ark nova game 2024? I want to watch from home
@goldsmeeth2771 3 ай бұрын
I have a bad feeling for the new map, too dependent on early project, too luck base for tournament
@Lightningdude 3 ай бұрын
Why would they change attacking cards ?
@alexchen1006 3 ай бұрын
This map should fix the problems of racing uni in 4players game because you no longer need 2uni for an upgrade. Also, snapping is nerfed in this map. Although you can discard a card to boost 1strength, it is kinda not worth.
@goldsmeeth2771 3 ай бұрын
But the players who can get fast projects gets too much advantage. The double uni was what allow you in the game if you didn't get the right cards early
@markvanderwerf8592 4 ай бұрын
A card upgrade per uni and partner zoo and the reputation on extra worker seems interesting. Really kinda favours getting an extra worker early as for example partner zoo/uni into project + worker and then zoo/uni should easily enable 3 upgrades early. And then you can do uni + zoo again next round (typically the downside of early worker is other player rushing the round or not having a project to do but being incentivized to do partner zoo and uni at same time benefits that). The discard for power ability also seems interesting might make the whole thing just stronger than snapping especially as this map seems to give a lot of reputation midgame with that 3 rep reward and two from workers. Seems like it will be pretty common to get effectively 4 rep (3 from bonus which gives extra worker). Not sure if i like the map that way, could be a bit snowbally. Many openings could easily use that 3 rep for a second worker early but way better as you also kinda get snapping power that way. Without snapping reward reputation already gets far more important.
@changjiejiang9670 4 ай бұрын
anything about TM new promo?
@RoomandBoardReviews 4 ай бұрын
I'll show them all off after the event, just wanted to get this one out because it was going to be used at the event :)
@NoWondersTV 4 ай бұрын
The workers giving reputation is another interesting change. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out, hopefully the map doesn't get vetoed too much. Good luck to everyone participating!
@theindyjt 4 ай бұрын
Aw, man, I really want to go!
@rayrobertson6739 4 ай бұрын
I think it's so interesting how in tournament play, reserved cards are face down so other players I suppose have to remember what cards their opponents reserved. In our family games, we handle reserved cards by having them turned sideways so we know they aren't in play yet. The only time we keep them face down is if we reserve a card from the deck vs. one of the ones on display in game. Do the rules specify it should be done one way or the other? Edit: Commentator addresses this at about the 25:00 marker. That's interesting that in tournaments, once a card is reserved it stays face down until purchased so it's incumbent on rival players to mentally track all of that. I'm not a big fan of that tournament rule if that is standard practice. The other thing that bugs me is how they stack their chips. I think they should be at least a little staggered like the top left player demonstrates his hand at 19:35 so players can track how many gems opponents have on hand and of what colors. I similarly think that bit is "public knowledge" that shouldn't be hidden in any way.
@WSBGofficial 4 ай бұрын
It is standard to keep the cards face down, that is in the rulebook :)
@raoulduke2820 4 ай бұрын
Reguarding @ 6:40, one thing I learned is going for the color that will interact with the most nobles is a mistake because there will be a lot more competition for those, especially among the players that are going for the nobles. Doing the opposite and ramping up a color that only 1 or 2 nobles need will leave those cards mostly free game for you.
@explorer47422 4 ай бұрын
For Tip #2 you didn't really explain why it was so important to go first though? Sorry bit of a noob at this game! You mention to establish chokepoint or getting the valuable spaces first but what spaces are those?
@h62628 2 ай бұрын
Depends on where the markets are you can sell to. There is more to it but generally speaking closer to the markets for easy sell routes, cost effective selling.
@srf_devotee 4 ай бұрын
If I purchase a Open Gaming ticket would I be able to watch any of the ring games?
@WSBGofficial 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately no, we keep the tournament hall closed off to anyone other than competitors currently to avoid any instances of cheating or collusion. But we will be streaming half of the final games on the Dice Tower throughout the event, and there's plenty of fun open gaming that can happen with the Dice Tower West library :)
@timothyboush4767 4 ай бұрын
I believe this year we are only using the bird side at WSBG… right?
@jeremyrioux 4 ай бұрын
To reply to tip number 2, if you have extra bird cards at the end of the game, is that also seen as a waste and not efficient?
@JohnCollinsIsAWizard 5 күн бұрын
generally yes, I think so. there are of course edge cases like choosing the Visionary Leader bonus card or seeing "Cards in Hand" as the final-round goal (a round goal introduced in one of the expansions, I believe). but the chief benefit of building out the wetlands is, of course, that you see more cards & can hopefully use all that information to play your best birds rather than just settling for what's in your hand. sometimes you just can't draw a decent card to save your life. at some point, it's better to cut your losses & pivot to laying eggs at the end, but knowing when it's that time is super situational. I would say that ending with a hand full of mediocre cards is less a testament to wasted inefficiency and more a testament to bad luck.
@robertschrumpf2534 4 ай бұрын
Question: will an Activation power trigger another player's Pink power bird? Such as an activation power that lets you Lay an egg on another bird. Will that trigger a Pink Power which is activated when another player lays eggs?
@espio1653 4 ай бұрын
I believe no. Those pink powers activate when the other player takes the "Lay Eggs" action, indicated by placing the action cube on the Lay Eggs row.
@LeviAndFriends111 Ай бұрын
@@espio1653you are correct
@mo8644 4 ай бұрын
Whoever set up the lighting & camera angle, but didn't bother to check to see all the glare at start is a moron - & barely watchable.
@theartpersuasion 4 ай бұрын
that single factory display our of place of the center circle is driving me crazy!! why doesnt anyone fix it lol