I’ll buy it if you give up on it. Been on the waiting list for 3 years.

$1500 box to do a $50 routing job. very smart.

I think you're closer based on your other video.

I think it takes a lot of courage to share the challenges with the technical learning of customizing your set-up. You're not the only person on the Cirklon journey. A lot of influencers are pretty much just selling stuff as recommended tools that even they won't necessarily use. So this is refreshing to say the least. Your learnings will certainly help others, so thank you for putting yourself out there.

I liked more the Generation Loss M2, less digital sound. Btw, there is another lofi pedal on the block, Source Audio Artifakt. I ordered to check how can play with Digitone. Cheers

Elektron is the way to go

Nice! You are rich!

Did you find a bug?

the 3+ year waiting list is the most frustrating aspect of the Cirklon! No other sequencer has this much hype and wait.

This process is so fascinating to me - thank you for sharing it! I'm a sound designer and - for about 20 years now - I've been building my own little sequencing rigs, heavily inspired by the music-bar mailing list. Colin Fraser was a big contributor to this list, and I got to meet him while working at musikmesse frankfurt (2005?2006? It was a very very tiny Superbooth, like a little tunnel) He showed me the P3, a product we had already read about on that list. Since then I've been fascinated by the device (and the cirklon), but ultimately chose to go the software sequencing route. Using accumulators driven by the "mask", which I kind of see as a multiplier of sorts (?) is a very nice twist on driving a sequencer - you can then get cascading sequences from a central driving signal. It all becomes somewhat "simple" if we see it like an analog clock nudging separate counters. I'm sorry for the wall of text - I just stumbled on this video in my sleepless stupor this morning - this just makes my head buzz for these ideas even more! Cheers from Copenhagen, DK. ty.

I think the best glitches are when you say to yourself: I don't know what's happening

kircklon , lmao

Have you watched the videos by Splitradix? Even skipping through them could really accelerate your overall appreciation of the machine.

high price and long ass wait times makes me wonder if this cirklon is worth it. I have a Squarp Hapix that does most of what the Cirklon does at half the price.

absolutely interesting hardware, but isn't it too expensive for nowadays?

Life is too short.

Process not product is a healthy mindset for sure

This is excellent. Very inspiring. Thanks. I have avoided accumulators so far. This is why !! Your comment at the end about learning the cirklon vs making music definitely makes sense to me… so a lot the more complex stacked auxes I’ve avoided for that reason

Squarp Pyramid also has this function were Track 1 is master and all other tracks will respond musically to it. But it's much cheaper then the Cirklon (bought it second hand for 300 euros). Cirklon is expensive for what it can do.

If I want to control, say 16 tracks on the Digitakt, would I create an instrument for each track, labelled "Drums", with a dedicated channel? Or would I create a single instrument then have each track between the Cirklon and Digitakt mapped to the same channel?

As a Cirklon user, I can attest to needing to take time to learn the machine and even now, after 8 years with it, I am still learning what i can do with certain features and indeed discovering features I have never explored before. I have to respectfully disagree with you, for me, Cirklon is actually a lot of music making fun. For my fairly substantial time investment, it has paid me back many times over. if you haven't made it to pay back, IMO it's a question of either investing more to get there or giving up now. I would suggest you go more, especially if you're an IT guy as lots of logic to play with and the results are worth it IMO.

The pedal didn’t come with a power cable?

does it have polyrhythm and interpolation like Toraiz Squid?

The attack on big six g bus is 30 ms, you put 0.3 so your comparison is irelevant

I got my Cirklon at the end of 2022 after close to a 5 year wait. As luck would have it, I actually ended up winning a Perfect Circuit contest for the Torso T-1 a few months later. Having just gotten the Cirklon and having owned most of the most enviable sequencers out there (Pyramid, most every Elektron, other hardware I’m now forgetting, lots of eurorack, and too much software), I figured I’d sell the T-1. But I actually found it to be the perfect complement to the Cirklon. The Cirklon is very deliberate, setting up routing and parameters in advance and designed to make tracks with high complexity with a lot of gear and maybe a more old school approach in how it can favor multitimbral or rack gear. The T-1 on the other hand is more immediate in approach, easy to just sort of pick a few pieces of gear and assign them and twist some knobs to get an interesting sequence you maybe wouldn’t have otherwise found. That said, I use the Cirklon daily and find it to be the solution for me that other sequencers weren’t in the past, but on those days I just want to make some mutant techno or explore a different approach I do appreciate plugging the T-1 into my midi patchbay and seeing where it takes me.

I’m hearing a lot of sounds I feel the microcosm could cover. That being said, I often find the microcosm a little unresponsive (sometimes turning knobs yields very similar sounds) and muted sounding. Chase Bliss on the other hand - dial those knobs and you know you’re going to get clear variation; and the sound will def be more present.

they should launch a new generation of monomachine

I traded mine back for a mk1 and now with Lossy (totally different but scratches a similar itch in my music) I’m not sure I need that.

Your right. Its work like sitting behind a desk. No spontaneity.

try a vector sequencer, does 80% of cirklon (and something that cirklon doesn't do, like free gate arp, more cv ins) it's smaller, cheaper and easier to work with.

What is that thing you have to mount your pedals on? I've been searching forever for somehting to mount them on - other than a shelf. I've always considered the Cirklon as unobtainium - so why bother? And yeah... screw the menu diving. I bought a SQ-64 and used it for a while and now it sits in some drawer somewhere. I own a MachineDrum (the original) and I can just sit down and get things done immediately.

Thanks for this

Have you used/tried/considered a modular sequencer ?

I wanted a Monomachine so bad around the time I got my Machinedrum, but by the time I could afford it, it had already gone up in price by a third or more. Been chasing my ideal power synth ever since, which until recently I never found in either software or hardware (Hydrasynth, DM12 and many others). Finally landed on what I've been looking for all along but didn't know it, a Virus TI2. So creamy, organic, lush, nasty - anything you want, just a few knob turns away. My goal is to focus 100% and give Virus the love and dedication Sophie gave her MnM .. There's really a lifetime of new sound worlds to coax out of this endlessly deep machine.

For the music i make (drone) i personally think onward is looking to be theirbest pedal

I liked the SSL version, to my ears it sounded more open and defined. it just need more volume on the drums. The Cranborne mix has the drums in the front of the mix.

Level/impedance issues are the bain of electronic music. I watched the Tony Anderson studio tour video and he has these rack-mounted TK Audio Transceivers to handle pedal -> mixer levels. Love it. I also hate no level meters on Eurorack output modules. BoredBrain finally answered my prayers.

CB should be sponsoring you. Their demos of this peddle were lame x100. This (tho too late for me) would be a buy for sure.

It seems like a lot of YT gear reviews are just teleprompter driven with their scenes following thru the manual. Loopop literally reads off the manual. It is why they are mostly boring and useless, IMHO. You, OTOH actually compose and USE the gear. I much rather hear what you have to say.

I've gone thru a bunch of hardware sequencers over the years. But since I've used MOTU DP since it was MIDI-only in the mid-80s - it has fantastic MIDI implementation and is just so easy. I couple it with Expert Sleepers (hardware and plugin) for the modular and with the MOTU MIDI timestamping - MIDI clock is rock solid. I find no need to use hardware sequencers unless I want to play around.

Both Hapax and Oxi One have harmonization modes. And the NDLR has some even more powerful modes, I think. I believe the Torso T-1 and Midicake ARP might also have some capabilities here. And IIRC its at least on the wishlist for Deluge community firmware.

That’s sounds so amazing. FAHQ’n stoked one’s on its way to me as we sleak

Love hearing this. Just traded for one and it’s on its way. At first I wasn’t at all interested but the sounds are so unique and I heard people talking about it being the best end-of-chain ambient pedal ever so I decided to give it a try. After finally digging into my LVX the Reverse Mode C just wasn’t getting the love it deserves.

Not sure if you've come across them already, but Splitradix's tutorials on the Cirklon were life altering for me. They cover the machine so deeply, making its secrets easily accessible. -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJi9qpJ6ftyseM0

I think is more near to Infinite Jets than Microcosm

@MKDVB Did you decide to keep the Cirklon or go hapax?

Thanks for the vid! Could you clarify the part with “next level variation”? You’ve said cyrklon calls it… “oxi something’? I’d love to hear the feature name to be able to find how to use it. Thank you!

I find all of "tape echo" rather comical. In the 80s, my friend had an echoplex and I ran my synths thru it and thought it was garbage. Ditto for the Space Echo - it was noisy. Roland bbd chorus pedal sounded way better. And don't get me started on 4-track tascam tape decks. Of course... guilty as charged. I own a Strymon El Cap.

Top 5 delays for me. That tube does something special.

Don’t compare yourself to other youtubers - people aren’t usually learning and comparing such deep instruments. These are two of the most complicated sequencing tools one can attain anywhere in the world which is why this topic of yours is interesting. It’s completely different level of complexity compared to making a video comparing two knob-per-function monosynths. ❤