I really need to get round to fixing the sluggish shutter on mine now. Something really fine grain like CMS 20 or Technical Pan would probably work really well with a negative this small.
@projectsoffolly15 күн бұрын
I found them pretty simple to take apart and repair. If I can find some technical film in 120 I will consider cutting it down. For now I have a roll of double x that should last me.
@foggygray29 күн бұрын
I love my Nikomat EL. It is rock solid and of all my Nikon’s it’s the one I pick up the most. I’ve had it for few years and haven’t needed to change the battery.
@andrewsmithphotoАй бұрын
Nikons are such great cameras with so many lenses, they have truly earned their place in photographic history again and again.
@michaelappleyard6300Ай бұрын
I bought mine used in 1980 for £110 and that is a typical price today! Mine is still mint and working perfectly, including the meter being in calibration. Build quality is second to none. I put a few rolls through it each year and usually get 36/36 good negs. The secret to keeping it looking nice is to have it in its Ever-Ready case whenever it is in use. It has an endearing "pinging" noise to the shutter which is different from any other cameras I have heard. I think that they put the chunky Lithium battery in the base of the mirror box so that the dimensions of the body would be unchanged from the other Nikkormat bodies (FTn, FT2, etc.) and therefore the EL can fit in the same E-R cases. Possibly it is the best 35mm camera bargain out there if its keeps working, especially with all those Nikon lenses to choose from. They say that they are non-repairable if they break electrically as the circuitry is mainly hard-wired and therefore it's like a rat's nest inside.
@sputumtubeАй бұрын
Lucky you - my first 'real' camera was a Zorki 4... !!!
@hansemannluchter643Ай бұрын
The build-quality of the Nikkormat EL is better than the Nikon EL2, fex the aperture coupling ring is metal, not plastic.
@projectsoffollyАй бұрын
Good to know. I always found the Non-AI lens mount a bit limiting. I think that is more what I wanted to convey. I think Nikon did a great job on the EL, I know it was a bit of a risk for them being their first Aperture Priority camera. My guess is that they put a fair amount of engineering effort in so that they could really test the waters with this tech before coming out with the F3 soon after.
@keirfrei1504Ай бұрын
Good on you for having a crack at the film slitter first. I went straight to the double X for my 16mm Kiev30.
@gerryhardman9060Ай бұрын
Great review of a all-time great. I bought mine from a guy who used it as his second camera with his F2. I shot weddings for years with it and it was my second camera to my FE with a motor drive. I could take pictures down to about a quarter of a second with no tripod because it was so heavy. Eventually sold it because the metering no longer worked on automatic setting, and the Nikon tech said that it had old eyes because eventually CDS cells either become in accurate or just die. Great camera, though my copy was in much better shape than yours. Now I have a black Nikon Zfc for nostalgia to replace my Nikon FE and this camera as well. The knobs and dials are in the same location basically. Long live film. Regards Gerry.
@pandamoniumtwo21Ай бұрын
The heart vignette 😂
@mamiyapressАй бұрын
I have three.
@projectsoffollyАй бұрын
I understand why.
@koby1960Ай бұрын
It is a great film camera with most of the F4 features and from my experience very reliable and well made not sure what makes it ugly...it is not on the hipster list and as a result it is very cheap Having AA batteries is usually great idea...the problem is that quiet a few were left with batteries in them for years with a fairly disastrous results. Look for a example with a clean battery compartment and you will enjoy a great camera.
@melvinch2 ай бұрын
In what way is it ugly? I have used it in many weddings and felt it's the has best ergonomics among many SLRs. Handling feels extremely intuitive.
@pandamoniumtwo212 ай бұрын
Inspirational!
@frankcat15112 ай бұрын
Great video keep up the great work
@saidanehabib3 ай бұрын
Nice video, Pyrocat HD is the way to go, not expensive to make at home, The one you buy from the internet goes bad and at times arrives bad already.
@hoodtube79203 ай бұрын
Can I ask what that adapter thing is that you've got in the remote shutter cable socket? Great video, btw!
@projectsoffolly3 ай бұрын
It is a Nikon MR-3. it allows you to use a mechanical shutter release cable and is a shutter button itself. Mine has be on the camera so long it appears to be fused in place but that is fine as I find it handy to have, would recommend it. The same port on the front can support an interval meter for timed sequences of shots. Other than that I think you would have to look up the accessory listing for the camera to know what else you can attach there.
@hoodtube79203 ай бұрын
@@projectsoffolly Thank you for explaining! Need to have a look into that.
@davidgifford81123 ай бұрын
You may find it ugly, but for me the form following function design made it a thing of beauty and used it for 15-years until the first sensibly priced DSLRs arrived. I still have it and it works like new (the sound of the film drive is so satisfying) even though the body shows its age.
@projectsoffolly3 ай бұрын
I was definitely being hyperbolic about the looks, its just the first in the more modern control system for Nikon and it was a big change at the time. I think this camera is very much an overlooked gem when talking about solid reliable and capable cameras.
@ka4estvo3 ай бұрын
KMZ was and is closely connected with the military. It's one of the primary optics manufacturers in Russia. But that's not the reason for Zenits' sturdiness. All soviet SLRs and RFs were like that. Kievs, FEDs, Zorkis. The later Zenits made after the fall were still bricks, even though they're made out of plastic.
@reinhartreuschel54993 ай бұрын
You're soooo right: the ugliest Nikon is the F401, and then the F90 with its greasy hatchback in addition to the fact that the F90 is too thick in the grip. The F801 is the only one I like of those of the 1980s and later: 'she' is perfectly made under the plastic surface; first I hesitated to purchase it because of all around plastic, but since about 2017, I have been wondered why. The F801 (I owned four of them and will keep one F801s still up to the inevitable that I die) does worth more than any cult Nikon of the downsizing era with FM/FM2/FE/FE2/FA: an integrated motor drive, the 1/8000 sec is a stunning option for pics with 'freezing water' or aperture wide open when outsight light is very bright: Take a portrait with aperture 1.4 in extremly bright daylight: here you are with 1/8000 s! And because I hate AF and use the 801in MF mode, I've not any problem with this fine camera. The normal batteries enjoy a very long life in this F801 body. And - last not least but most important - the results of the exposures are pretty perfect. This is the evaluation of a pro used to working with Nikon F, F2, mat, mat EL, EL2, FM/FM2, FE/FE2, FA, F4 - and moreover Nikon digicams;-)) And now the today's price: 25 euros in Germany, 50 with optics (AF28-85). In 1983, the pure body without lens cost DM 1398,-- Got it? It's a worthy bargain. @philosimot
@SD_UK3 ай бұрын
I was happily using two of these professionally for a couple of years in the early 90's . Damn fine. Very reliable.
@kmoecub3 ай бұрын
"Spy" cameras were originally made as cheaper cameras for everyday people when the world economy crashed in the 1930's. The film was less expensive, as were the prints. That they were small made them popular with private investigators, police, and government spies. The CIA bought hundreds of Kodak 110 film cameras in the 1980's. I have a similar thought process when choosing a camera for travel. My phone is great, but it's not as satisfying as using my Canon G10. Lately I've gravitated toward using my Minox 35GL, because it's light and pocketable and has a crisp lens. My next trip (not overseas) will see me using either a Minolta GT, or a Yashica Atoron. I love having options. As to the light meter. The most common reason for a Selenium meter to stop working is corrosion on the contacts. Cleaning them with a mild acid (3% vinegar) will usually fix that. It won't always work because selenium cells do degrade over time from light exposure. It is possible to convert a selenium meter to using a photoresistor, but it's not a direct swap (and there's no need for a supercapacitor or a stepper motor). Best bet though is to buy a modern cold-shoe light meter. If you can get yourself a Stecky 16, and the optional lenses for it, you'll have a very versatile full-feature (except for a light meter) film camera that fits into your pocket that takes very good photos.
@projectsoffolly3 ай бұрын
Sadly my light meter has more issues than the normal terminal corrosion. Not a huge issue just a little annoying and does cause niggling thoughts every now and again on what a modern solution might look like. As to the Stecky 16 I do have one and it is in a state of restoration. It is impressive how much smaller a Stecky is compared to the Mamiya 16. Suffice to say I am hoping by the next holiday I have a hard choice between the two.
@davidw.r.78013 ай бұрын
For some reason I started collecting these 801/801s bodies and have 6 or 7, one is new in box. They were cheap and are heavy and well built. They work wonderfully for anyone starting to shoot film, or just grabbing one for walk around shooting and not worrying about loosing or wrecking it!
@maxfloiban50293 ай бұрын
The top plate is actually not plastic, but a magnesium alloy.
@projectsoffolly3 ай бұрын
I'll remember that the next time I hammer a tent peg in. Use the top plate not the bottom. Thanks for the correction.
@vyrnmn3 ай бұрын
1/8000 is really useful for a film camera I think. If you'd loaded something like Portra 800 (or faster) for darker scenes and didn't finish the roll, you're not necessarily limited to shooting in low light or tiny apertures in daylight. It keeps your options open.
@projectsoffolly3 ай бұрын
1/8000 is a fantastic surprise this camera has. Many other cameras of the era even in the same price bracket capped out at 1/4000. I think it adds to some of the universal appeal of the camera.
@vyrnmn3 ай бұрын
I love my F801. Found it in a bargain bin in a camera shop for £1. Threw some new batteries in it and it worked perfectly!
@andrewreynolds12173 ай бұрын
I have 2 of these bodies, an N8008 and an F-801s. Very comfortable to use with good metering and adequate lens compatibility. Definitely nice to have an option that runs on AA batteries.
@Benjamin-Slender3 ай бұрын
I bought a Zenit 12xp like a week ago and my model was manufactured in 1989. On my Model the knob for ISO is labeled with ISO (the range is from 25 to 400) and not the ASA as yours. How is this possible? I thought they would be the same. Great video btw :D
@projectsoffolly3 ай бұрын
Difficult to know for sure, I recently talked with a woman from Russia who was telling me that most of the cameras we have here were for export market only. Something I was previously unaware of. I think it is fair to say that there is a lot of undocumented information about these cameras.
@Benjamin-Slender3 ай бұрын
@@projectsoffolly ah interesting! Thank you for answering :)
@muzlee747925 күн бұрын
Mine too! And even more confusing is that it has clicks under 24 and over 400 lol. I have no idea how that works
@masanthar3 ай бұрын
Why a dx lens with no aperture ring? If I am not mistaken f801 can't function properly with af-s lenses and beyond. Godd camera though, easy to use.
@projectsoffolly3 ай бұрын
The short answer is I only had that lens and a 50mm non AI lens. Weirdly the dx lens is more compatible (as long as you don't use wide angle) I have never had a large collection of Nikon lenses and I previously sold more appropriate ones. I think it is impressive the compatability the F-801 has!
@masanthar3 ай бұрын
@@projectsoffolly I hoped I had misunderstood the cameras compatibility, it'be nice to work with newer lenses. Oh well, keep shooting.
@marksieving792510 күн бұрын
@@masanthar It will work fine with AF-S lenses. They started coming out in the 1990s when this camera was current. It will work with G lenses in Program or Shutter Priority mode, but not in Manual or Aperture Priority mode. It won't work with AF-P lenses, which are focus by wire. It can mount and shoot with DX lenses, but of course you'll get a lot of vignetting, and you'll have to crop the image. It will work with AI and AI-S manual focus lenses in Manual or Aperture Priority mode, but only with center weighted exposure metering.
@narcotic62643 ай бұрын
The autofocus is in my experience perfectly accurate, it's not the fastest in the world but still way faster than me manually focusing. I use mine for social occasions in fully automatic mode because it lets me concentrate on my friends instead of on the camera. And I can just hand it to someone else and let them shoot it without them needing a lecture on how to use it and without worries of it being dropped or damaged.
@jsprite1233 ай бұрын
I have an 8008s (US equivalent model), and a F100 (its successor), among newer Nikon bodies. The ergonomics of the 8008s just feels right. The batteries last for a long, long time. The F100 maybe "better" but eats batteries like there is no tomorrow. Remember that the 801/8008/8008s was the F4's little brother. I couldn't afford an F4 back in the day, but the 8008s fitted the bill. Mine still works just fine in 2024!
@CTBLAS3 ай бұрын
I think the F90 would have been its successor, or maybe even the F70.
@Socialmocracy4 ай бұрын
If you want to 3d print more film cassette use resin over FDM. Much better results form the cheaper resin printers than what you will get with a FDM.
@projectsoffolly4 ай бұрын
If you check out the next video in the series you will see that I begged a friend to print me off some carts and he had a FDM printer so we gave that a go. I am currently considering doing a bit of a re-design of the carts and possibly getting it printed in different methods including SLA and SLS. I am very interested in how the SLA prints handle.
@Socialmocracy4 ай бұрын
@@projectsoffolly I had to make some resin parts for my Viscawide 16. It uses 16mm film just like this camera. I’ll give your next video a view. Thanks for the response.
@iNerdier4 ай бұрын
Why not add felt to your existing holder? Contact adhesive is probably what would work the best here. That plus adding salt to the internals of a camera seems, horrendous.
@projectsoffolly4 ай бұрын
The thickness of the felt i have is substantially different. I will be talking a look for some other felt supplies. Also the glue is always a little tricky, but ill be looking at all of this in good time.
@scottypenut4 ай бұрын
Honestly surprised the Tea Wizard still has all his fingers at the end.
@projectsoffolly4 ай бұрын
The Tea Wizard does have a safety first approach I swear, its all just camera trickery to suggest anything different.
@SenpaiSkyy5 ай бұрын
I had to resin 3D print my viscawide 16 cartridges. FDM printers don’t work well for something this small. The cost of a small resin 3d printer is around $160 and the resin is around $20 per 1000g. You will have to paint or coat the inside with felt. It’s so thin they are not light proof without it.
@projectsoffolly4 ай бұрын
SLA is a common suggestion around here and very much worth considering. I am also wondering if some kind of airbrush flocking for the innards might be an option. All good things to try. But yes i can agree with the idea of Resin prints and post processing to make it light tight.
@SenpaiSkyy5 ай бұрын
I wanted to get one of these to go along with my viscawide 16. I have a lot of ektachrome 100 and Fuji micro film HR-21. I was told the lens was very sharp. Using something like Ektachrome or similar high resolve film or even the Kodak vision film will give you some nice results. Not only good resolution but nice grain. As far as the pyrocat and Fuji micro film goes I wouldn’t recommend. I had poor results. 510 pyro on the other hand seem ok. Pyrocat needed 45min to an hour to develop and I am not that patient.
@projectsoffolly4 ай бұрын
I would also say take a look at the Stecky16 if you have an interest in these submin cameras. I am currently working on part 3 of this series where I go though a few of the development options. In part 2 (Problem 1 Film) I demonstrate what film I went with, mostly though the path of least resistance.
@ozbaz996 ай бұрын
For a NEW camera the price is very reasonable. Used cameras are slowly dying and their prices keep going up. Some high end used point and shoots with similar specs sell for much more. Contax T2, Nikon 35ti etc.
@PanchromaticNoise6 ай бұрын
I'm interested primarily because it's new. The thought of my 30-50 year old cameras eventually needing a CLA service always looms in the back of my mind so if this 35AF is good enough for my needs, I'll feel better about it's longevity. Considering my cameras K1000, X-700, and XA2 show no signs of stopping - I might just be fishing for a reason to buy a new expensive toy.
@Nitidus6 ай бұрын
Sounds very interesting, and I completely missed the news. But, unfortunately, the $600-800 price tag is a dealbreaker for me. For that much money I'd expect a fully functioning, full-size SLR with interchangeable lenses. At the same time it wouldn't need autofocus. Now this thing definitely does, looking at what people who know the original say. But $800 makes it a gimmick and you'd be able to get a really good kit with several lenses on the used market instead.
@DrCowinabox6 ай бұрын
Price seems about right to me. Last "full size" slr i can think of was the fm3a, and that is like 1300 bucks adjusted for inflation & with no lens. Companies won't be able to compete with used prices (you can get a perfectly functional spotmatic for less than $10). Plenty of comparable cameras have sold for this much for more new.
@jacksondelahunt83856 ай бұрын
@@DrCowinaboxvoice of reason
@user-tf7pp5hr2j6 ай бұрын
I like it! Sometimes you buy something, and you just enjoy the journey of learning how it works. And, those tactile switches, got to love them
@iNerdier6 ай бұрын
Cine film also has sprocket holes which are in frame. Vision 3 certainly meets your dynamic range requirements, it's huge but you might not want the entire can. Why not just buy 110 cartridges and strip the film out of them in a dark bag and load that? There's also the questionably named fakmatic which slits down film into 16mm strips so you can use anything that's commonly available if you don't mind some wastage. Is the metal cannister from a slightly weird website in the UK that also has loads of minox stuff by any chance? I should clean up my 16 and get it working, will give your twitch stream a look.
@projectsoffolly6 ай бұрын
Vision 3 is a good option but i was trying to stick to B&W as i prefer working with that chemistry. There are lots of options and i think ill go though them a little more in the next part and what im thinking with each of the options. The metal cart was a bit of a let down but I wont spoil exactly as to why.
@ianhand50066 ай бұрын
The sprocket holes will definitely not show in the negatives. That only happens in 110 cartridges loaded with 16mm cine film.
@melaniezette8866 ай бұрын
50 years ago I learnt photo with a zenit EM until the shutter died. Good souvenirs and good pictures.
@projectsoffolly6 ай бұрын
I am sorry to hear the shutter died on yours. I fully agree the make good souvenirs there is something special about their functional design.
@lensman57627 ай бұрын
I have a few Leica M cameras, film and digital, Hasselblads, Nikons, Pentax 67, Field cameras, etc, and I also have a Zenit 11, even more basic than yours. I love it. It is so simplified and focused on photography. If you don't have the necessary knowledge about the basics of photography or the operation of the camera, like it was once the norm, forget it, you won't be able to use one of these for making photographs. These are just tanks, an dthe lens is quite good too.
@robbase-f6x8 ай бұрын
this is a 50/50 fight with slight edge to AJ
@tonym96358 ай бұрын
I have the Vito Cl also and i love it so much, my light meter still works but I dont trust it. I also have the Vito B, both cameras produces very nice images. I just zone focus the camera and I have never missed a shot. I hope you keep it, if nothing else it looks good on a shelf.
@projectsoffolly8 ай бұрын
I assure you every camera in this series is amazing. And I can fully agree the Vito CL takes an amazing shot. One of the greatly under valued and lesser known classic cameras. Sadly my ability to zone focus is very very lacking, no problem with the camera, its all user error :D
@rodmund838 ай бұрын
There are filters for the voigtlander cameras, lens hoods too. What's more, you can either upgrade to the Vito CLR with built in rangefinder or get a shoe accessory rangefinder for it. The voigtlander ones are spectacular but you could probably get a CLR for around the same price as one anyway. Then you can carry on being a 50s dad on a beach 😉
@projectsoffolly8 ай бұрын
I have taken a look at the CLR, they are not the most common here but yes the aesthetic is just stunning.
@markgoostree63349 ай бұрын
Most... well, a lot of us, fall into the same situation. Cameras seem to accumulate and I enjoy seeing them, using them, getting pictures back from each one of them. I try to only have film in two at a time. Finish those rolls and then decide on the next pair. I don't always stick to the plan.
@projectsoffolly9 ай бұрын
I have to admit it has been great being able to rotate though the cameras I have. Right now I think some of them need to move onto someone else so they can have the same fun I have had.
@starfish696810 ай бұрын
Really interesting watch! I'm just getting into film photography and I really liked how my photos from my Ilfocolor Rapid turned out. Cool to see the behind-the-scenes of how it works/how it's assembled. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a cheap camera like this one but one that is reusable? Thanks again for the video!!
@projectsoffolly10 ай бұрын
There are lots of great old second hand pocketable cameras you could look at like the ricoh 500g, rollei 35 or yashica 35. If you are after a new plastic camera you could look at the Harman Reusable camera. Lots of options! I think lots of the second hand cameras from the 60's can be a lot of fun!