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@christophberenotto
@christophberenotto 10 күн бұрын
Sorry for my early comment, it was a bit overdramatic and unhelpful. This isn't how I or any kayak instructors I know would teach the roll, but it wont kill anyone to try some different approaches as they develop
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 7 күн бұрын
Thank you. I decided to break down the roll in to all the steps so it's clear what I do. In teaching this, I would combine multiple steps to make it easier for the paddler to learn and do. Happy paddling.
@christophberenotto
@christophberenotto 17 күн бұрын
The blocks are not downstream obstacles, they are to create eddies to pivot into/out of
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment.
@glyn829
@glyn829 18 күн бұрын
Brilliant guys 👍 well done
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 17 күн бұрын
Thank you 😀
@wayfarerchris.4116
@wayfarerchris.4116 Ай бұрын
Just seen this video and think it is perfect for getting you started on your kayak rolling journey. And as Dave said, practice every time you use your kayak, and you will soon find a way to roll that suits you. Cheers Dave.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Thank you for your positive comment. Practice makes perfect! Happy paddling.
@bobp5885
@bobp5885 Ай бұрын
another great video 👍 on another note a while ago you did a video about getting in your kayak on the river , well after watching that I tried my first seal launch 😆 and loved it now I do it at every opportunity😂 so many thanks for that video .
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Thanks for the positive comment Bob. Glad you have discovered the seal launch! We love it too!
@kr9409
@kr9409 Ай бұрын
Must remember the advice "to take a deep breath" before the roll. I usually exhale strongly before going under!
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Absolutely. And it's worse if the water is cold. Grabbing a breath does become natural after a few practices. Thank you for your comment. Happy paddling.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
On the Derwent with Chris. Great fun and not a single gate cleared!
@Dazdigo
@Dazdigo Ай бұрын
This is the previous version of the NRS Ninja (pre-2024). The newer one has a bigger pocket and supposedly a more comfortable fit. Personally I am looking at getting the Ninja OS which has more D-ring mount points and is meant for open water/recreational use. The base Ninja is more for white water, while the Pro is for rescue.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Perhaps that's why I got it on special offer! Hope you enjoy your new Ninja when you get it.
@philipoakley5498
@philipoakley5498 Ай бұрын
Hip "flick": As an older person, I hate the term 'flick'. It suggest a fast, very dynamic and somewhat aggressive motion, that's not always possible with that flick visualisation. I prefer the buttock swap view, especially if practised statically upright. In practice (I visualise) it's the rotation of the boat such that it is tucked underneath the upper body by bringing the 'far away' thigh across and under one's belly button (no heads are raised during this manoeuvre;-)
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
A great explanation. Thanks for your comment.
@philipoakley5498
@philipoakley5498 Ай бұрын
Common 'fault' I've seen for new paddlers learning to roll is the 'cocked' wrist at set-up, which is (they have) over forced. When they invert and move focus to the sweep, the wrist relaxes and the paddle angle, especially if held by the front hand (rather than Dave's 'trick' of using the rear hand against the throat of the rear paddle), is now set up for a dive rather than a supporting stroke. pool training suggestion: Using a body board as a paddle float is a great help for separating the setup practice, from the sweep/finish practice. Place the paddle on the board and then reverse the recovery to invert into the water. It quickly becomes obvious that the initial sweep out is important to get leverage for the rotation aspect of the roll, and also allows/ensures that beginners 'get up' for the last bit where head position would be key.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Yes, I've seen the common fault too. The roll is so ingrained in my muscle memory, I move my back hand automatically to 'feel' for the rear blade. I can't remember it ever slicing using this method. Love the pool training suggestion. Thanks for your comment.
@philipoakley5498
@philipoakley5498 Ай бұрын
For extra teaching of kayak 'lean' (edging), folks should try the buttock test/exercise. On flat water, initially with both buttocks equally weighted, shift one's weight onto a single buttock (as if on a bar stool), this will edge the boat, and with a little more weighting the opposing knee will engage with the thigh brace (the classic 'lift the knee'). All this without any real need to lean the upper body, which for beginners is a common 'fear' of sticking your weight over the edge of the boat and over balancing. The 'weight a buttock' approach avoids that fear of over balnce and separates the boat edging from the body lean, and promotes hip/pelvis flexure (aka hip flick..)
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. As you say, the edge can be a tricky skill to master. Your advice really helps!
@philipoakley5498
@philipoakley5498 Ай бұрын
Additional points.. Reversing in with most river kayaks while leaning forward until beached, and then lean back which makes the boat 'sit hard' on the sloping bank makes for an easier exit. remember the point of balance is on the centre line, so when stepping out always have the foot that stays in the boat on the centre line (if it's offset the boat will wobble). When standing up, use both arms equally in a A frame stance to maximise stability. Practice on dry land first ;-)
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Great advice especially about the centre line! Many people miss this! Thanks for your comment.
@knaz7468
@knaz7468 Ай бұрын
I'm still shocked these things are allowed to exist. Forget kayakers, imagine a kid falling into one. They should have designed in kickouts so a swimmer has a chance to move to the side and be freed.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
I agree. In fairness, many are being re-designed to allow fish to easily spawn back upstream. This can make them a little safer. Thanks for your comment.
@juttaweiss9560
@juttaweiss9560 Ай бұрын
Herzlichen DANK für die gute Erklärung.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Gern geschehen. Danke für deinen Kommentar.
@philipoakley5498
@philipoakley5498 Ай бұрын
Also worth reflecting how much the 'get on' is just the same as a ferry glide, perhaps initiated from an eddy (i.e. practice easy first) Then as a direct consequent, that the exit of the wave is just like either exiting a ferry glide into an eddy, or exiting an eddy into a sharp change of flow (includes the turn). And "cheat" (in the best possible way) by changing the visualisation to an easier skill you (the learner) already have, or visualise that the 'instructor' had to give up as they exited (see also 360 turns while straight running) ;-)
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Great information. Happy paddling!
@philipoakley5498
@philipoakley5498 Ай бұрын
Iron works: older weirs often have repairs made by filing hessian sacks with sand cement mix and then pinning (length of rebar) them into the existing weir to fill holes and support unstable parts. Over time these bags can eroded leaving the rust sharpened rebar protruding. A few years back there was concerted effort to trim many of these back on the stanley weir on the river Tay. Anything Victorian or earlier is likely to have iron spikes all over the place (inc fencing extending into the river banks)..
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking Ай бұрын
Oh yes! I have seen many weirs like this. Appreciate your comment.
@MarkJM
@MarkJM 2 ай бұрын
Dave, you really gotta treat yourself. A good paddle makes SUCH a difference. I'd say something like a fibreglass werner/VE is the absolute minimum standard. I would honestly rather have a good paddle and rubbish kayak than a good kayak and rubbish paddle.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Perhaps time to put my hand in my pocket and upgrade. I agree that it's best to have at least an average quality paddle when starting out. As you progress, a better paddle will certainly help - as you say. Have fun and happy paddling.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Try these strokes out and let me know what works for you. Stay safe!
@brucesguitardemos8197
@brucesguitardemos8197 2 ай бұрын
Don’t lean upstream ❤
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely right! Thank you for your comment.
@rebeccalynch130
@rebeccalynch130 2 ай бұрын
I'm inspired!
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Great! Hope it goes well for you
@bobwolfe5342
@bobwolfe5342 2 ай бұрын
My favourite paddle is a lendle paddle which I won in a competition many years ago. 72 degrees lefty, made specifically for me. That is the only thing I have ever won in my life. I also use a Greenland paddle that I made myself. I very seldom use anything else to be honest. Happy paddling.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
I love the sentimental value you have with your paddles. And even better that you won them! Thanks for your comment as always.
@juttaweiss9560
@juttaweiss9560 2 ай бұрын
Besten DANK nochmals auch für die anderen Videos - macht Spaß zuzusehen und es dann auszuprobieren.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Gern geschehen. Vielen Dank für Ihren Kommentar.
@juttaweiss9560
@juttaweiss9560 2 ай бұрын
vielen Dank für Ihr tolles Video wirklich gut erklärt ich habe es mir mehrmals angesehen
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Danke für deinen Kommentar. Viel Spaß beim Paddeln!
@fosth
@fosth 2 ай бұрын
#1 tip, look where you want to go both at the start and through the glide. Pick a point on the opposite bank and focus on it thorough the Glide. This will help set the angle and initiate the lean by turning your shoulder and raising the upstream knee. Many beginners focus on looking at the bow which will keep the boat flat giving you less control.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant tip. Thanks for the comment.
@kenhughes11
@kenhughes11 2 ай бұрын
Number 9 and the most dangerous: paddlers decision making! Go on a safety and leadership course folks!
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 2 ай бұрын
Great point! Thank you for your comment.
@vickyking3408
@vickyking3408 3 ай бұрын
Sorry does really help
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment
@BalthazarMyrrh70
@BalthazarMyrrh70 3 ай бұрын
My spare is just a small 1/2 paddle. Tucked in deck webbing but with an added leash so it cannot be lost in a roll.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Good idea. I didn't think to add a leash. Thank you for the comment.
@bobwolfe5342
@bobwolfe5342 3 ай бұрын
I have tried various permutations on my rockhopper, and in the rockhopper, but the one you suggest is probably the best. Unless you can talk someone else in to carrying them for you. I have done that in the past. Obvious drawbacks to that too.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yes, I'm interested to see how it will work out!
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
How do you carry your spare paddles? Let me know!
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Tell me about your paddles! What do you like about them? Why did you buy them? Look forward to hearing from you!
@bobp5885
@bobp5885 3 ай бұрын
Great video lovely relaxing paddle 👍
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Hello Bob. Yes it was. It's a lovely stretch of canal and lots of wildlife. Happy paddling.
@heystuclark
@heystuclark 3 ай бұрын
Is that Nafford Weir on the Avon? That was my local play spot for years! Got dangerous in flood as the stopper crept up the weir and spread in front of the bridge pillar
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
It is indeed! That was at high water as you point out. Very dangerous. Here it is on a more relaxed level though: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iF7IfXudrN-Jg8Usi=eZyOyvw_rvlhOhl3 - Thanks for your comment.
@heystuclark
@heystuclark 3 ай бұрын
@@EdDaveKayaking believe or not you can helix in that stopper when it’s got enough water going down Still scraped my helmet though Also, used to surf it on the paddle board but the shelf drops away quickly and you’re left with some boulders that can hurt your ankles if you’re not careful
@SubParPaddler
@SubParPaddler 3 ай бұрын
I started in a Perception Mirage mid 80's, then the same boat in the 90's, i did my 3 star in a Mirage with no outfitting, just a seat lol and foot pegs :)
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and great to hear of your kayak history! I started out in a Dancer - and loved it! Mind you, no other choices then so we all had the same kayaks!
@bobp5885
@bobp5885 3 ай бұрын
Yet more helpful tips, keep them them coming they are really good 👍
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do! Lots more planned for the year! Take care and thanks for the positive comment.
@bobwolfe5342
@bobwolfe5342 3 ай бұрын
Good advice as always
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Bob. Hope you are well.
@bobwolfe5342
@bobwolfe5342 3 ай бұрын
My least favourite part of any trip. I managed to fall out in 2 inches of water due to a leg cramp the other day. Much to my grandsons amusement.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Leg cramps can be very painful! Sorry it triggered a dunking for you!
@SubParPaddler
@SubParPaddler 3 ай бұрын
HI, the blocks on the left just before drop 4 are not just to test you, they are there for a reason, youre supposed to wait in the eddy behind them in case there are any playboaters playing below the drop. This wasn't the case for you, but normally if there are, you cant really see them from above until its too late, a tell tale sign would be someone standing bank side river right, so you wait in the eddy behind the blocks for a thumbs up to let you know they've cleared for you.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Many thanks for this comment and the heads up.
@Lukas-paddelt
@Lukas-paddelt 3 ай бұрын
I was teached to use a "Paddle bridge" to stabilize the kayak if you struggle to jump out with an impressive triple salto like I normally do. 😉🙃
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Many thanks for your comment. If I recall, the paddle bridge places the paddle behind your body and bridges from the kayak to the bank. It then gives you a platform to hitch your bum up on to and move across to the bank. It works when the kayak and bank are at the same height. Worth trying it and practicing to see if it works for you. Have fun and stay safe.
@Lukas-paddelt
@Lukas-paddelt 3 ай бұрын
@@EdDaveKayaking Exactly this :)
@glyn829
@glyn829 3 ай бұрын
Some great advice 👍
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
The concept for this video was made in early May 2024 and was planned to be launched on the 25th May 2024. It is NOT a response to any recent incidents in the wider paddling world. Find out how to use your throw line - see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3mldKV9nNR8msU
@bobwolfe5342
@bobwolfe5342 4 ай бұрын
All good advice,as always
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! Thank you for the comment.
@Lukas-paddelt
@Lukas-paddelt 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advices, I will surely learn from it. :)
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for your positive comments.
@bobp5885
@bobp5885 4 ай бұрын
Some really good things to think about in that video 👍 keep up the good work
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@starhawke380
@starhawke380 4 ай бұрын
I prefer, Hey buddy, my back is killing me today, can you get this down tot he river for me?
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
A brilliant solution! Thanks for your comment.
@kenwebster5053
@kenwebster5053 4 ай бұрын
In the 70s I did slalom kayaking. We made our own kayaks for $40-50 from materials purchased through the local canoe club using moulds hired from the club as well. These boats were 4 metres (13 ft) in length and weighed 13 - 18 kg (30 - 40 lb), made from fibreglass using chopped strand matt & polyester resin. You could make a lighter & stronger boat using woven rovings as woven mat absorbs less resin than chopped strand. Alternatively, high end comp boats of that time were carbon kevlar at half these weights or less. By the late 70s, I though people were rediculously crazy for buying super heavy PE boats at 6 times the cost & more than double the weight. I still have my KW7 & Lettermann Olymp from those days, though much repaired. I have since purchased a 17 ft Geoff Barker designed Sea Wasp & it's not much heavier than my original slalom kayaks. All of these kayaks are very easy for me to lift and carry on my shoulder. Not so easy getting them on an SUV though as I am not tall, but they are very easy to lift onto a small sedan.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this history with us. Great to hear your views on kayak weights and I agree, kayaks now are really heavy!
@bobwolfe5342
@bobwolfe5342 4 ай бұрын
My go to position is the shoulder lift, don't have to rely on others. Trolley is good for across the car park but not much use if you're climbing over rocks and seaweed etc. good video as always.
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your positive comment. The shoulder lift is great once you get used to it and can do the initial lift. As mentioned in a previous comment, standing the kayak on end might make it easier to get it on your shoulder.
@bobp5885
@bobp5885 4 ай бұрын
Good video I really do like all the useful information 👍
@EdDaveKayaking
@EdDaveKayaking 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Always appreciate your comments and support.