All four stands were never clipped. No guides here. Friends climbing with friends.

@@LouDude502 at 6:15, your partner belayed you with his grigri clipped into all four strands, as well as his personal tether. Did you even notice that? Let’s say the left bolt blows, both you and him are plummeting to the ground. Sure, you are friends climbing with friends, but they’re very new to this and they’re looking to you as a guide and mentor, yet you’re teaching bad practices and all of you are none the wiser.

​@@bubbyb0i6967 first, you don't know what you think you know. Second, I remembered clearly correcting several things with the leader off camera. 1st thing you don't know. I admit I must have forgotten that he clipped all 4 stands though I know I would have seen it and corrected it. Second thing you don't know is that I was never in any real danger because I was also on bottom belay by the third climber on all pitches. Hence, my failure to have an OMG I could have died reaction. I knew mistakes were likely. The third thing you don't know is how much training/certification I have had. You assume too little. As for guides, they do some of the most sketchy stuff I have seen and are not absent from the annual climbing accident and death list. As for the whole shelf issue, that's gonna have to be a difference of option. On a bolted sport belay, area above the restrictor knot is not optimal but definitely not a catastrophic blunder you make it out to be. I typically like to use the higher point for one tether and my second on the master. Most people only use one tether. If one bolt blows the master tether would catch with less extension. Now for the whole SERENE thing. It's a guideline. There is no perfect anchor for a given situation. Even if using the master point of the quad, the quad has a fair amount of extension which violates the whole NO Extension aspect of SERENE. Sport climbers often use, and it is an accepted practice, just 2 draws for a top anchor for ground top roping. This is not SERENE. The fact of the matter is that modern bolted anchors just don't blow. Considering that one bolt could easily hold the car that we drove in, the risk of facing extension was minimal. If I were trad climbing, I would be hesitant to use this area of the quad. Probably would be using a different anchor anyway. I know you mean well, but your holy than thou all knowing and seeing attitude is very off-putting. Be well. 🤙

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll snag that on my next trip out there. Thanks for watching 🤙

I mount my GoPro about halfway from the top to the front brim of my helmet with a curved helmet mount.

Glad you enjoyed the video. Smith Rock is magical. 🤙

@@tracycrabtree1383 that's a hell of first climb. Kudos. Not hard. The gear on lead is just funky. 🤙

It's so good. One of those routes to redo whenever you pass by.

@@LouDude502 i agree

It's pretty intense. About 20ft

The start is more burly than it looks due to the feet. It eases up after the third bolt. Great route. Thanks for watching🤙

Agreed the rappel anchors to the base of the climb are a little too much of a hassle to set up and find. Much easier to do the scramble down. I imagine those anchors were put there to provide some rappel practice for new climbers.

Thank you. Pretty casual climb. Except for the widow maker tree 😆. Thanks for watching. 🤙

Those were my draws. My partner led it first and I pulled the rope because I wanted to lead it. This was a while ago. FYI: many routes in the Red are getting mussy hooks at the anchors, which makes cleaning a breeze. But this is the Muir and I don't recall seeing mussies there yet. Mostly in PMRP areas.

Agreed. If you ever wonder what the + symbol means in a 5.9... usually means 1 or 2 grades lol. 5.10d also means 5.11b. thanks for watching🤙

Agreed. I can see how it got overlooked. Even though you can see it from the parking lot, it's was cryptic finding the first time. I hop on it every time I go to Vegas. Probably done it 4 times now.

💯 Disagree. This is by far the scariest comment I have ever received. Here's your trophy lol. 🏆 It's called a "buddy check" for a reason. Not the belayer checks themselves. The belayer checking the knot and the climber checking the belay device is industry standard to reduce the chance of human error. Telling people not to do a proper buddy check is very irresponsible regardless of your experience as a climber. This could cause ☠️☠️☠️⚰️⚱️💀.

@@LouDude502 I know what a “buddy check” is my guy lol. Actually read what I said. I never said to not do one. I’m saying you getting your hands down in people’s shit and tugging on the grigri like a tool is frankly rude and annoying. Do you even let them know before you start reaching towards their crotch? How about check each person one at a time deliberately and not just a random process. Have them show you the belay is on. They don’t need you tugging on them like a dingus. Nice attempt at playing gumby guide though. You do it well.

@@bubbyb0i6967 buddy checks requires physical and visual inspection. There are things that I look for that not all people do. It's my life, I wanna be sure so someone doesn't have to carry me out in buckets. For instance, it is possible to clip the gri gri without clipping the cover plate. This is very easy to miss on a purely visual inspection. The device will still auto lock upon testing. This can only be checked by locking the gri gri and moving to the side to confirm it is correctly clipped. I have tested many climbers on this and pointed out their visual buddy check sucks and they could have died.

It's mostly because this was at the end of the day. We did 8 climbs that day. The start is pretty stout for an 5.8 which is pretty gorge standard. The top was sketchy for me because I did not like the tree right behind me. Plus the whole Rock thing Brooke my focus. So a fall didn't seem too clean. I don't get to caught up into grades these days except for trad. There's a lot of financial investment and risk involved.

With that said... I've done easier 5.10s lol

@LouDude502 Haha, fair enough! I mostly climb 5.8 sport, but I broke into 5.9s during Rocktoberfest and a single 5.10a called Kentucky Pinstripe over in Global Village. Clocked around 60 outdoor leads last year, so I'm not beating myself up when I hit "the wall" so to speak. But lol, I always think "what the hell?" When it feels harder than I thought it was going to be. 😂 I just crossed 1 year climbing, so I'm just happy to be out there! Haha, climb on, man! 🤘

@gabriellynn4418 Kentucky pinstripe was pretty rough for me on that start. I was not a fan lol. Pretty cool up top though.

@LouDude502 Oh, I agree with you, lol! You get over that damn ledge and then there's some gnarly slab until you're finally standing up on flat ground for a moment. I surprised myself that climb! I'm heading to Miguel's from April 17th to 21st for the first time out this season, and I may give it another go because I love warming up in the morning on Eureka! I put about 20 lbs on since last October, so I'll be haulin nearly 200lbs up the wall this time. I had a sedentary winter, but I'm about to shed some of it on the wall, I hope! Haha, at least on the hike. 😂

Thank you. Especially for the 8th route of the day😂

Yeah I’m mostly a sport climber, but I’ve been racking up the mileage on moderate and easy trad in Tennessee, Alabama, and Kentucky the past year or so

I'm jealous. Everyone's so busy these days that all anyone wants to do is sport climb. Gotta keep the trad skills sharp. 🤙

True, but it's always good to get a multi directional piece in on the first point to protect from zippering and not letting the belay going up any further on a higher up on the route lead fall. Thanks for watching and the comment🤙

Also true, that makes sense

On the lower easy section we had 2 offset climbers with the lead climber belaying 2 with a tube style auto locking device. This was to save time as a 3 person group. It was cold and it might rain.

The climbing at Smith is definitely a different style. Thanks for watching🤙

Ty. Maybe when the weather isn't crap

I'm glad you liked the video. My channel has over 200 routes covered in the easy moderate range. Enjoy🤙. Thanks for watching.

If you mean tights. They are water wicking, SPF, flexible, and they keep ticks off you.

@@LouDude502 the stupid designs

Love this route. Glad you enjoyed it too 🤙

Ty thanks for watching🤙 dreaming of warmer days.

Your error is that you assume my goal is to become a better climber. I have no love for chasing higher numbers or more stars. I climb for the fun of it. I don't care about on sighting, flashing, or other made up word used compare myself to other climbers. When I am on the Rock, it's just me that I'm competing with. I have certain injuries I rather not exaggerate. On the flip side, I will take a safe fall to get the jitters out. Ya know, practice falling. This is my climbing log book which includes success and failure. Thanks for watching.

Nah just been really busy

So civilization crag is probably one of the more complicated maze like approaches. There are probably hundreds of paths through the maze, but the most direct that I have found is fairly scrambly. If I were attempt to do it with a baby, I would definitely have some sort of baby backpack because you'll need your hands free in a couple of areas. The biggest tip in navigation, is located the crag visually from the car and keep an eye on it until your just about to lose it in the maze. Then pick it some directional land marks to head to. Once your in the maze it's very easy to start heading the wrong direction. Generally you trend up and to the right after the wash. A much easier approach would be Black Corridor and Hamlet Wall.

@@LouDude502 wow thanks a lot!!!

@@LouDude502 thank you for the suggestion of Hamlet Wall! For Hamlet Wall, is there plenty of level ground if we want to setup a tent and set the baby down? Thank you!

​@manulakshmanan5549 there should be plenty of room in the wash or the platform above the wash depending on how big the tent is. I have a video for Fralaty the Name is Sandstone which should document the area pretty well.

@@LouDude502 thanks a lot man! Really great suggestion to go to Hamlet. That's a great video, the belay area looks comfortable

Lack of practice

Futuristic Test Piece is right around the corner too. Funky but cool route. www.mountainproject.com/v/116179445 . Chester Fried chicken is next door to. Turkey crossing is further on East facing side of the holler. Thanks for watching🤙

Thanksgiving in the gorge can be 80s or 0 and snowing. Generally, that time of the year is what people consider the best time if year. Just wear layers. It's a South facing wall I believe so you should be good once the leaves fall off trees

@@LouDude502 Thanks!

It's an amazing climb. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching🤙

I like crimps. Jugs are yucky 🤢

Thanks for the info and watching. If I remember correctly, this was at the end of my trip to Smith and I was exhausted so I was just on top rope.

@@LouDude502 sweet! No judgement from me! Just thought you might want to know!

Lol. Nah. I've had that for a few. No new ink for awhile.

Hopefully you had time to do Grampa Joe and EBGB and Robotic Thumb too. Those routes are amazeballz. Thanks for watching 🤙

Yeah, that happens. I think we were both rather rusty 😆. Great climb though. The Summerville lake area was also a beautiful climbing area, highly recommend checking it out while in the area. Thank for watching🤙

@@LouDude502 Yes! Only going to be there for 2 days. I have both guidebooks. Hoping to get on some fun ones. Weather is looking optimistic so far!

It was very chill🤙

Good question. There seems to be 2 schools of thought on this. I used to like gates opposite to the direction of climbing which typically keeps the gate from being opened against featured protruding rock. These days I like gates towards the direction because most of the time the gate is not opened on flat or overhanging rock. I feel more comfortable this way because the rope during a fall would slide along the spine and not the gate. Since the gate is the weakest part of the carabineer and the spine the strongest. More of a personal preference. Sometimes on featured rock, I will switch it up if the carabineer lays awkwardly or is opened. It's always a good idea to watch your pro after to pass it to make sure everything is laying correctly before it's too late to fix it. Anyway, I've seen it illustrated in official climbing manuals both ways being correct. Thanks for the question and watching🤙

Exactly 💯. 😆. Unfortunately I did not name this route. Both of you are short and tough though🤙